Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] drm: update MAINTAINERS for qemu drivers (bochs, cirrus, qxl, virtio-gpu)

[Thomas Huth]

On 23.11.2016 09:06, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
 +L:qemu-de...@nongnu.org
>>
>> qemu-devel list already has very high traffic - not sure whether it
>> makes much sense to route even more additional patches here. Maybe
>> rather create a separate mailing list like qemu-graph...@nongnu.org ?
> 
>> So you've just managed to convince me that including qemu-devel on every
>> driver patch, when qemu.git will not be modified, may indeed be
>> overkill; when compared to the option of just creating a new dedicated
>> list for the subset of kernel patches related to qemu drivers.
> 
> Well, that isn't my intention.  I want the kernel patches for qemu
> graphics being more visible for developers working on the host (device
> emulation) side.  A separate list just for those patches is quite the
> contrary ...
> 
> Maybe virtualizat...@lists.linux-foundation.org would be a better choice
> than qemu-devel ...

Yes, I agree, that sounds like a better fit. You might even get the
attention from other people there who are working on virtualization
solutions other than QEMU.

 Thomas

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] drm: update MAINTAINERS for qemu drivers (bochs, cirrus, qxl, virtio-gpu)

[Thomas Huth]

On 23.11.2016 09:06, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
 +L:qemu-de...@nongnu.org
>>
>> qemu-devel list already has very high traffic - not sure whether it
>> makes much sense to route even more additional patches here. Maybe
>> rather create a separate mailing list like qemu-graph...@nongnu.org ?
> 
>> So you've just managed to convince me that including qemu-devel on every
>> driver patch, when qemu.git will not be modified, may indeed be
>> overkill; when compared to the option of just creating a new dedicated
>> list for the subset of kernel patches related to qemu drivers.
> 
> Well, that isn't my intention.  I want the kernel patches for qemu
> graphics being more visible for developers working on the host (device
> emulation) side.  A separate list just for those patches is quite the
> contrary ...
> 
> Maybe virtualizat...@lists.linux-foundation.org would be a better choice
> than qemu-devel ...

Yes, I agree, that sounds like a better fit. You might even get the
attention from other people there who are working on virtualization
solutions other than QEMU.

 Thomas

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] drm: update MAINTAINERS for qemu drivers (bochs, cirrus, qxl, virtio-gpu)

[Gerd Hoffmann]

  Hi,

> >> +L:qemu-de...@nongnu.org
> 
>  qemu-devel list already has very high traffic - not sure whether it
>  makes much sense to route even more additional patches here. Maybe
>  rather create a separate mailing list like qemu-graph...@nongnu.org ?

> So you've just managed to convince me that including qemu-devel on every
> driver patch, when qemu.git will not be modified, may indeed be
> overkill; when compared to the option of just creating a new dedicated
> list for the subset of kernel patches related to qemu drivers.

Well, that isn't my intention.  I want the kernel patches for qemu
graphics being more visible for developers working on the host (device
emulation) side.  A separate list just for those patches is quite the
contrary ...

Maybe virtualizat...@lists.linux-foundation.org would be a better choice
than qemu-devel ...

cheers,
  Gerd

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] drm: update MAINTAINERS for qemu drivers (bochs, cirrus, qxl, virtio-gpu)

[Gerd Hoffmann]

  Hi,

> >> +L:qemu-de...@nongnu.org
> 
>  qemu-devel list already has very high traffic - not sure whether it
>  makes much sense to route even more additional patches here. Maybe
>  rather create a separate mailing list like qemu-graph...@nongnu.org ?

> So you've just managed to convince me that including qemu-devel on every
> driver patch, when qemu.git will not be modified, may indeed be
> overkill; when compared to the option of just creating a new dedicated
> list for the subset of kernel patches related to qemu drivers.

Well, that isn't my intention.  I want the kernel patches for qemu
graphics being more visible for developers working on the host (device
emulation) side.  A separate list just for those patches is quite the
contrary ...

Maybe virtualizat...@lists.linux-foundation.org would be a better choice
than qemu-devel ...

cheers,
  Gerd

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] drm: update MAINTAINERS for qemu drivers (bochs, cirrus, qxl, virtio-gpu)

[Eric Blake]

On 11/22/2016 01:41 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
> 
> On 22/11/2016 19:54, Eric Blake wrote:
>>  DRM DRIVER FOR BOCHS VIRTUAL GPU
>>  M:  Gerd Hoffmann 
>> -S:  Odd Fixes
>> +L:  qemu-de...@nongnu.org

 qemu-devel list already has very high traffic - not sure whether it
 makes much sense to route even more additional patches here. Maybe
 rather create a separate mailing list like qemu-graph...@nongnu.org ?
>> In practice, ALL patches should already be going to qemu-devel, even if
>> they are ALSO going to some other list.  For example, qemu-block and
>> qemu-trivial are definitely cases where we have separate lists, but
>> where posters are reminded to include qemu-devel in cc if they want a
>> patch applied.
> 
> The difference is that these would be kernel patches.

Ah, indeed. I missed the distinction of 'all _qemu_ patches' are already
going to the qemu list, but this is about non-qemu patches.  I guess I
was thrown off because I first read this message as cross-posted onto
the qemu lists, rather than its primary audience of the kernel list.
But it goes to show that when more than one non-overlapping list is cc'd
on an individual patch, it gets harder to tell which list the patch is
meant for, vs. which other lists are just getting it out of courtesy.
So you've just managed to convince me that including qemu-devel on every
driver patch, when qemu.git will not be modified, may indeed be
overkill; when compared to the option of just creating a new dedicated
list for the subset of kernel patches related to qemu drivers.

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com+1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org



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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] drm: update MAINTAINERS for qemu drivers (bochs, cirrus, qxl, virtio-gpu)

[Eric Blake]

On 11/22/2016 01:41 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
> 
> On 22/11/2016 19:54, Eric Blake wrote:
>>  DRM DRIVER FOR BOCHS VIRTUAL GPU
>>  M:  Gerd Hoffmann 
>> -S:  Odd Fixes
>> +L:  qemu-de...@nongnu.org

 qemu-devel list already has very high traffic - not sure whether it
 makes much sense to route even more additional patches here. Maybe
 rather create a separate mailing list like qemu-graph...@nongnu.org ?
>> In practice, ALL patches should already be going to qemu-devel, even if
>> they are ALSO going to some other list.  For example, qemu-block and
>> qemu-trivial are definitely cases where we have separate lists, but
>> where posters are reminded to include qemu-devel in cc if they want a
>> patch applied.
> 
> The difference is that these would be kernel patches.

Ah, indeed. I missed the distinction of 'all _qemu_ patches' are already
going to the qemu list, but this is about non-qemu patches.  I guess I
was thrown off because I first read this message as cross-posted onto
the qemu lists, rather than its primary audience of the kernel list.
But it goes to show that when more than one non-overlapping list is cc'd
on an individual patch, it gets harder to tell which list the patch is
meant for, vs. which other lists are just getting it out of courtesy.
So you've just managed to convince me that including qemu-devel on every
driver patch, when qemu.git will not be modified, may indeed be
overkill; when compared to the option of just creating a new dedicated
list for the subset of kernel patches related to qemu drivers.

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com+1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org



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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] drm: update MAINTAINERS for qemu drivers (bochs, cirrus, qxl, virtio-gpu)

[Paolo Bonzini]

On 22/11/2016 19:54, Eric Blake wrote:
>>> >>  DRM DRIVER FOR BOCHS VIRTUAL GPU
>>> >>  M:  Gerd Hoffmann 
>>> >> -S:  Odd Fixes
>>> >> +L:  qemu-de...@nongnu.org
>> > 
>> > qemu-devel list already has very high traffic - not sure whether it
>> > makes much sense to route even more additional patches here. Maybe
>> > rather create a separate mailing list like qemu-graph...@nongnu.org ?
> In practice, ALL patches should already be going to qemu-devel, even if
> they are ALSO going to some other list.  For example, qemu-block and
> qemu-trivial are definitely cases where we have separate lists, but
> where posters are reminded to include qemu-devel in cc if they want a
> patch applied.

The difference is that these would be kernel patches.

Paolo

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] drm: update MAINTAINERS for qemu drivers (bochs, cirrus, qxl, virtio-gpu)

[Paolo Bonzini]

On 22/11/2016 19:54, Eric Blake wrote:
>>> >>  DRM DRIVER FOR BOCHS VIRTUAL GPU
>>> >>  M:  Gerd Hoffmann 
>>> >> -S:  Odd Fixes
>>> >> +L:  qemu-de...@nongnu.org
>> > 
>> > qemu-devel list already has very high traffic - not sure whether it
>> > makes much sense to route even more additional patches here. Maybe
>> > rather create a separate mailing list like qemu-graph...@nongnu.org ?
> In practice, ALL patches should already be going to qemu-devel, even if
> they are ALSO going to some other list.  For example, qemu-block and
> qemu-trivial are definitely cases where we have separate lists, but
> where posters are reminded to include qemu-devel in cc if they want a
> patch applied.

The difference is that these would be kernel patches.

Paolo

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] drm: update MAINTAINERS for qemu drivers (bochs, cirrus, qxl, virtio-gpu)

[Eric Blake]

On 11/22/2016 04:50 AM, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 22.11.2016 10:58, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>> Changes:
>>  * add myself as maintainer, so patches land in my inbox.
>>  * add qemu-devel mailing list.
>>  * add drm-qemu git repo.
>>  * flip bochs and qxl status to "Maintained".
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Gerd Hoffmann 
>> ---
>>  MAINTAINERS | 14 --
>>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
>> index ad9b965..84dc747 100644
>> --- a/MAINTAINERS
>> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
>> @@ -4027,11 +4027,16 @@ F:   drivers/gpu/drm/ast/
>>  
>>  DRM DRIVER FOR BOCHS VIRTUAL GPU
>>  M:  Gerd Hoffmann 
>> -S:  Odd Fixes
>> +L:  qemu-de...@nongnu.org
> 
> qemu-devel list already has very high traffic - not sure whether it
> makes much sense to route even more additional patches here. Maybe
> rather create a separate mailing list like qemu-graph...@nongnu.org ?

In practice, ALL patches should already be going to qemu-devel, even if
they are ALSO going to some other list.  For example, qemu-block and
qemu-trivial are definitely cases where we have separate lists, but
where posters are reminded to include qemu-devel in cc if they want a
patch applied.

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com+1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org



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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] drm: update MAINTAINERS for qemu drivers (bochs, cirrus, qxl, virtio-gpu)

[Eric Blake]

On 11/22/2016 04:50 AM, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 22.11.2016 10:58, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>> Changes:
>>  * add myself as maintainer, so patches land in my inbox.
>>  * add qemu-devel mailing list.
>>  * add drm-qemu git repo.
>>  * flip bochs and qxl status to "Maintained".
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Gerd Hoffmann 
>> ---
>>  MAINTAINERS | 14 --
>>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
>> index ad9b965..84dc747 100644
>> --- a/MAINTAINERS
>> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
>> @@ -4027,11 +4027,16 @@ F:   drivers/gpu/drm/ast/
>>  
>>  DRM DRIVER FOR BOCHS VIRTUAL GPU
>>  M:  Gerd Hoffmann 
>> -S:  Odd Fixes
>> +L:  qemu-de...@nongnu.org
> 
> qemu-devel list already has very high traffic - not sure whether it
> makes much sense to route even more additional patches here. Maybe
> rather create a separate mailing list like qemu-graph...@nongnu.org ?

In practice, ALL patches should already be going to qemu-devel, even if
they are ALSO going to some other list.  For example, qemu-block and
qemu-trivial are definitely cases where we have separate lists, but
where posters are reminded to include qemu-devel in cc if they want a
patch applied.

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com+1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org



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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] drm: update MAINTAINERS for qemu drivers (bochs, cirrus, qxl, virtio-gpu)

[Thomas Huth]

On 22.11.2016 10:58, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> Changes:
>  * add myself as maintainer, so patches land in my inbox.
>  * add qemu-devel mailing list.
>  * add drm-qemu git repo.
>  * flip bochs and qxl status to "Maintained".
> 
> Signed-off-by: Gerd Hoffmann 
> ---
>  MAINTAINERS | 14 --
>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> index ad9b965..84dc747 100644
> --- a/MAINTAINERS
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> @@ -4027,11 +4027,16 @@ F:drivers/gpu/drm/ast/
>  
>  DRM DRIVER FOR BOCHS VIRTUAL GPU
>  M:   Gerd Hoffmann 
> -S:   Odd Fixes
> +L:   qemu-de...@nongnu.org

qemu-devel list already has very high traffic - not sure whether it
makes much sense to route even more additional patches here. Maybe
rather create a separate mailing list like qemu-graph...@nongnu.org ?

 Thomas

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] drm: update MAINTAINERS for qemu drivers (bochs, cirrus, qxl, virtio-gpu)

[Thomas Huth]

On 22.11.2016 10:58, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> Changes:
>  * add myself as maintainer, so patches land in my inbox.
>  * add qemu-devel mailing list.
>  * add drm-qemu git repo.
>  * flip bochs and qxl status to "Maintained".
> 
> Signed-off-by: Gerd Hoffmann 
> ---
>  MAINTAINERS | 14 --
>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> index ad9b965..84dc747 100644
> --- a/MAINTAINERS
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> @@ -4027,11 +4027,16 @@ F:drivers/gpu/drm/ast/
>  
>  DRM DRIVER FOR BOCHS VIRTUAL GPU
>  M:   Gerd Hoffmann 
> -S:   Odd Fixes
> +L:   qemu-de...@nongnu.org

qemu-devel list already has very high traffic - not sure whether it
makes much sense to route even more additional patches here. Maybe
rather create a separate mailing list like qemu-graph...@nongnu.org ?

 Thomas