Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2013-01-27 Thread Jason Wang
On Monday, December 03, 2012 08:01:11 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:45:46 +0800
> 
> Jason Wang  wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 08:49:19 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
> > > 
> > > Jason Wang  wrote:
> > > > On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jason Wang  wrote:
> > > > >> Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has
> > > > >> been
> > > > >> sent
> > > > >> (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which
> > > > >> optimizes for virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> next packet sending. This would lead the pktgen to wait forever in
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> refcount of the skb if no other pakcet will be sent afterwards.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY
> > > > >> which could notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb
> > > > >> immediately after it has been sent and let it not to wait for the
> > > > >> refcount to be one.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Signed-off-by: Jason Wang 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb->destructor.
> > > > > There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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> > > > 
> > > > Hi Stephen:
> > > > 
> > > > Do you mean registering a skb->destructor for pktgen then set and
> > > > check
> > > > bits in skb->tx_flag?
> > > 
> > > Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter
> > > (number of packets pending), then just spin while number of packets
> > > pending is over threshold.
> > 
> > Have some experiments on this, looks like it does not work weel when
> > clone_skb is used. For driver that call skb_orphan() in ndo_start_xmit,
> > the destructor is only called when the first packet were sent, but what
> > we need to know is when the last were sent. Any thoughts on this or we
> > can just introduce another flag (anyway we have something like
> > IFF_TX_SKB_SHARING) ?
> 
> The SKB_SHARING flag looks like the best solution then.
> Surprisingly, transmit buffer completion is a major bottleneck for 10G
> devices, and I suspect more changes will come.

It works, but we may lose some chances to use clone_skb and stress the device 
and driver more. I'm thinking maybe we can turn back to my original RFC to 
introduce another flag. This flag maybe also useful for BQL and zerocopy in the 
future since both of them are sensitive to the transmit buffer completion. 
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2013-01-27 Thread Jason Wang
On Monday, December 03, 2012 08:01:11 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
 On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:45:46 +0800
 
 Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
  On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 08:49:19 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
   On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
   
   Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
 
 Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
 Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has
 been
 sent
 (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which
 optimizes for virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during
 the
 next packet sending. This would lead the pktgen to wait forever in
 the
 refcount of the skb if no other pakcet will be sent afterwards.
 
 Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY
 which could notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb
 immediately after it has been sent and let it not to wait for the
 refcount to be one.
 
 Signed-off-by: Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com
 
 Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb-destructor.
 There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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Hi Stephen:

Do you mean registering a skb-destructor for pktgen then set and
check
bits in skb-tx_flag?
   
   Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter
   (number of packets pending), then just spin while number of packets
   pending is over threshold.
  
  Have some experiments on this, looks like it does not work weel when
  clone_skb is used. For driver that call skb_orphan() in ndo_start_xmit,
  the destructor is only called when the first packet were sent, but what
  we need to know is when the last were sent. Any thoughts on this or we
  can just introduce another flag (anyway we have something like
  IFF_TX_SKB_SHARING) ?
 
 The SKB_SHARING flag looks like the best solution then.
 Surprisingly, transmit buffer completion is a major bottleneck for 10G
 devices, and I suspect more changes will come.

It works, but we may lose some chances to use clone_skb and stress the device 
and driver more. I'm thinking maybe we can turn back to my original RFC to 
introduce another flag. This flag maybe also useful for BQL and zerocopy in the 
future since both of them are sensitive to the transmit buffer completion. 
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-12-04 Thread Jason Wang
On Monday, December 03, 2012 08:01:11 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:45:46 +0800
> 
> Jason Wang  wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 08:49:19 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
> > > 
> > > Jason Wang  wrote:
> > > > On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jason Wang  wrote:
> > > > >> Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has
> > > > >> been
> > > > >> sent
> > > > >> (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which
> > > > >> optimizes for virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> next packet sending. This would lead the pktgen to wait forever in
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> refcount of the skb if no other pakcet will be sent afterwards.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY
> > > > >> which could notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb
> > > > >> immediately after it has been sent and let it not to wait for the
> > > > >> refcount to be one.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Signed-off-by: Jason Wang 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb->destructor.
> > > > > There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
> > > > > --
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> > > > 
> > > > Hi Stephen:
> > > > 
> > > > Do you mean registering a skb->destructor for pktgen then set and
> > > > check
> > > > bits in skb->tx_flag?
> > > 
> > > Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter
> > > (number of packets pending), then just spin while number of packets
> > > pending is over threshold.
> > 
> > Have some experiments on this, looks like it does not work weel when
> > clone_skb is used. For driver that call skb_orphan() in ndo_start_xmit,
> > the destructor is only called when the first packet were sent, but what
> > we need to know is when the last were sent. Any thoughts on this or we
> > can just introduce another flag (anyway we have something like
> > IFF_TX_SKB_SHARING) ?
> 
> The SKB_SHARING flag looks like the best solution then.
> Surprisingly, transmit buffer completion is a major bottleneck for 10G
> devices, and I suspect more changes will come.

It works, but we may lose some chances to use clone_skb and stress the device 
and driver more. I'm thinking maybe we can turn back to my original RFC to 
introduce another flag. This flag maybe also useful for BQL and zerocopy in the 
future since both of them are sensitive to the transmit buffer completion. 
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-12-04 Thread Jason Wang
On Monday, December 03, 2012 08:01:11 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
 On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:45:46 +0800
 
 Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
  On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 08:49:19 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
   On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
   
   Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
 
 Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
 Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has
 been
 sent
 (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which
 optimizes for virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during
 the
 next packet sending. This would lead the pktgen to wait forever in
 the
 refcount of the skb if no other pakcet will be sent afterwards.
 
 Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY
 which could notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb
 immediately after it has been sent and let it not to wait for the
 refcount to be one.
 
 Signed-off-by: Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com
 
 Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb-destructor.
 There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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Hi Stephen:

Do you mean registering a skb-destructor for pktgen then set and
check
bits in skb-tx_flag?
   
   Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter
   (number of packets pending), then just spin while number of packets
   pending is over threshold.
  
  Have some experiments on this, looks like it does not work weel when
  clone_skb is used. For driver that call skb_orphan() in ndo_start_xmit,
  the destructor is only called when the first packet were sent, but what
  we need to know is when the last were sent. Any thoughts on this or we
  can just introduce another flag (anyway we have something like
  IFF_TX_SKB_SHARING) ?
 
 The SKB_SHARING flag looks like the best solution then.
 Surprisingly, transmit buffer completion is a major bottleneck for 10G
 devices, and I suspect more changes will come.

It works, but we may lose some chances to use clone_skb and stress the device 
and driver more. I'm thinking maybe we can turn back to my original RFC to 
introduce another flag. This flag maybe also useful for BQL and zerocopy in the 
future since both of them are sensitive to the transmit buffer completion. 
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-12-03 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:45:46 +0800
Jason Wang  wrote:

> On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 08:49:19 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
> > 
> > Jason Wang  wrote:
> > > On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
> > > > 
> > > > Jason Wang  wrote:
> > > >> Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has been
> > > >> sent
> > > >> (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which
> > > >> optimizes for virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the
> > > >> next packet sending. This would lead the pktgen to wait forever in the
> > > >> refcount of the skb if no other pakcet will be sent afterwards.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY
> > > >> which could notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb
> > > >> immediately after it has been sent and let it not to wait for the
> > > >> refcount to be one.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Signed-off-by: Jason Wang 
> > > > 
> > > > Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb->destructor.
> > > > There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
> > > > --
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> > > 
> > > Hi Stephen:
> > > 
> > > Do you mean registering a skb->destructor for pktgen then set and check
> > > bits in skb->tx_flag?
> > 
> > Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter (number
> > of packets pending), then just spin while number of packets pending is over
> > threshold.
> 
> Have some experiments on this, looks like it does not work weel when 
> clone_skb 
> is used. For driver that call skb_orphan() in ndo_start_xmit, the destructor 
> is only called when the first packet were sent, but what we need to know is 
> when the last were sent. Any thoughts on this or we can just introduce 
> another 
> flag (anyway we have something like IFF_TX_SKB_SHARING) ?
> 

The SKB_SHARING flag looks like the best solution then.
Surprisingly, transmit buffer completion is a major bottleneck for 10G
devices, and I suspect more changes will come.
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-12-03 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:45:46 +0800
Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 08:49:19 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
  On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
  
  Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
   On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800

Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has been
sent
(usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which
optimizes for virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the
next packet sending. This would lead the pktgen to wait forever in the
refcount of the skb if no other pakcet will be sent afterwards.

Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY
which could notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb
immediately after it has been sent and let it not to wait for the
refcount to be one.

Signed-off-by: Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com

Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb-destructor.
There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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   Hi Stephen:
   
   Do you mean registering a skb-destructor for pktgen then set and check
   bits in skb-tx_flag?
  
  Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter (number
  of packets pending), then just spin while number of packets pending is over
  threshold.
 
 Have some experiments on this, looks like it does not work weel when 
 clone_skb 
 is used. For driver that call skb_orphan() in ndo_start_xmit, the destructor 
 is only called when the first packet were sent, but what we need to know is 
 when the last were sent. Any thoughts on this or we can just introduce 
 another 
 flag (anyway we have something like IFF_TX_SKB_SHARING) ?
 

The SKB_SHARING flag looks like the best solution then.
Surprisingly, transmit buffer completion is a major bottleneck for 10G
devices, and I suspect more changes will come.
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-12-02 Thread Jason Wang
On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 08:49:19 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
> 
> Jason Wang  wrote:
> > On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
> > > 
> > > Jason Wang  wrote:
> > >> Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has been
> > >> sent
> > >> (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which
> > >> optimizes for virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the
> > >> next packet sending. This would lead the pktgen to wait forever in the
> > >> refcount of the skb if no other pakcet will be sent afterwards.
> > >> 
> > >> Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY
> > >> which could notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb
> > >> immediately after it has been sent and let it not to wait for the
> > >> refcount to be one.
> > >> 
> > >> Signed-off-by: Jason Wang 
> > > 
> > > Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb->destructor.
> > > There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
> > > --
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> > 
> > Hi Stephen:
> > 
> > Do you mean registering a skb->destructor for pktgen then set and check
> > bits in skb->tx_flag?
> 
> Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter (number
> of packets pending), then just spin while number of packets pending is over
> threshold.

Have some experiments on this, looks like it does not work weel when clone_skb 
is used. For driver that call skb_orphan() in ndo_start_xmit, the destructor 
is only called when the first packet were sent, but what we need to know is 
when the last were sent. Any thoughts on this or we can just introduce another 
flag (anyway we have something like IFF_TX_SKB_SHARING) ?

Thanks
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-12-02 Thread Jason Wang
On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 08:49:19 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
 On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
 
 Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
  On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
   On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
   
   Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
   Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has been
   sent
   (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which
   optimizes for virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the
   next packet sending. This would lead the pktgen to wait forever in the
   refcount of the skb if no other pakcet will be sent afterwards.
   
   Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY
   which could notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb
   immediately after it has been sent and let it not to wait for the
   refcount to be one.
   
   Signed-off-by: Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com
   
   Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb-destructor.
   There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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  Hi Stephen:
  
  Do you mean registering a skb-destructor for pktgen then set and check
  bits in skb-tx_flag?
 
 Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter (number
 of packets pending), then just spin while number of packets pending is over
 threshold.

Have some experiments on this, looks like it does not work weel when clone_skb 
is used. For driver that call skb_orphan() in ndo_start_xmit, the destructor 
is only called when the first packet were sent, but what we need to know is 
when the last were sent. Any thoughts on this or we can just introduce another 
flag (anyway we have something like IFF_TX_SKB_SHARING) ?

Thanks
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-11-29 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:30:13 +0200
"Michael S. Tsirkin"  wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 06:13:13PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 08:53:05 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:48:52 +0800
> > > 
> > > Jason Wang  wrote:
> > > > On 11/28/2012 12:49 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jason Wang  wrote:
> > > > >> On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > > >>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>> Jason Wang  wrote:
> > > >  Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has
> > > >  been sent
> > > >  (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which
> > > >  optimizes for virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during 
> > > >  the
> > > >  next packet sending. This would lead the pktgen to wait forever in
> > > >  the refcount of the skb if no other pakcet will be sent afterwards.
> > > >  
> > > >  Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY
> > > >  which could notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb
> > > >  immediately after it has been sent and let it not to wait for the
> > > >  refcount to be one.
> > > >  
> > > >  Signed-off-by: Jason Wang 
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>> Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb->destructor.
> > > > >>> There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
> > > > >>> --
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> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Hi Stephen:
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Do you mean registering a skb->destructor for pktgen then set and 
> > > > >> check
> > > > >> bits in skb->tx_flag?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter
> > > > > (number of packets pending), then just spin while number of packets
> > > > > pending is over threshold.
> > > > > --
> > > > 
> > > > Not sure this is the best method, since pktgen was used to test the tx
> > > > process of the device driver and NIC. If we use skb_orhpan(), we would
> > > > miss the test of tx completion part.
> > > 
> > > There are other places that delay freeing and your solution would mean
> > > finding and fixing all those. Code that does that already has to use
> > > skb_orphan() to work, and I was looking for a way that could use that.
> > > Introducing another flag value seems like a long term burden.
> > > 
> > 
> > Get the point, will draft another version.
> >
> > > Alternatively, virtio could do cleanup more aggressively. Maybe in 
> > > response
> > > to ring getting half full, or add a cleanup timer or something to avoid 
> > > the
> > > problem.
> 
> Timer would prevent complete deadlock but it is very expensive
> in the virt scenario.
> pulling at ring half full would only help if ring gets half full :)
> which it does not have to.

A timer that fires once (when idle) to mop up the last packet in a stream
would be not very expensive. Most of the time, it would just be continually
rescheduled.
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-11-29 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 06:13:13PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 08:53:05 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:48:52 +0800
> > 
> > Jason Wang  wrote:
> > > On 11/28/2012 12:49 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
> > > > 
> > > > Jason Wang  wrote:
> > > >> On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > >>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> Jason Wang  wrote:
> > >  Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has
> > >  been sent
> > >  (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which
> > >  optimizes for virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the
> > >  next packet sending. This would lead the pktgen to wait forever in
> > >  the refcount of the skb if no other pakcet will be sent afterwards.
> > >  
> > >  Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY
> > >  which could notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb
> > >  immediately after it has been sent and let it not to wait for the
> > >  refcount to be one.
> > >  
> > >  Signed-off-by: Jason Wang 
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb->destructor.
> > > >>> There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
> > > >>> --
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> > > >> 
> > > >> Hi Stephen:
> > > >> 
> > > >> Do you mean registering a skb->destructor for pktgen then set and check
> > > >> bits in skb->tx_flag?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter
> > > > (number of packets pending), then just spin while number of packets
> > > > pending is over threshold.
> > > > --
> > > 
> > > Not sure this is the best method, since pktgen was used to test the tx
> > > process of the device driver and NIC. If we use skb_orhpan(), we would
> > > miss the test of tx completion part.
> > 
> > There are other places that delay freeing and your solution would mean
> > finding and fixing all those. Code that does that already has to use
> > skb_orphan() to work, and I was looking for a way that could use that.
> > Introducing another flag value seems like a long term burden.
> > 
> 
> Get the point, will draft another version.
>
> > Alternatively, virtio could do cleanup more aggressively. Maybe in response
> > to ring getting half full, or add a cleanup timer or something to avoid the
> > problem.

Timer would prevent complete deadlock but it is very expensive
in the virt scenario.
pulling at ring half full would only help if ring gets half full :)
which it does not have to.

> 
> May worth to try. Another method is that virtio has a feature to notify guest 
> when tx ring is empty, we could free the old tx skbs there.
> But it may brings 
> extra overhead. If we could let virtio_net free the old tx skb timely, it 
> would be easier to bring BQL support to virtio_net also.
> 
> Thanks

We used to use notify on empty - it's still very slow.

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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-11-29 Thread Jason Wang
On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 08:53:05 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:48:52 +0800
> 
> Jason Wang  wrote:
> > On 11/28/2012 12:49 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
> > > 
> > > Jason Wang  wrote:
> > >> On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > >>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
> > >>> 
> > >>> Jason Wang  wrote:
> >  Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has
> >  been sent
> >  (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which
> >  optimizes for virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the
> >  next packet sending. This would lead the pktgen to wait forever in
> >  the refcount of the skb if no other pakcet will be sent afterwards.
> >  
> >  Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY
> >  which could notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb
> >  immediately after it has been sent and let it not to wait for the
> >  refcount to be one.
> >  
> >  Signed-off-by: Jason Wang 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb->destructor.
> > >>> There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
> > >>> --
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> > >> 
> > >> Hi Stephen:
> > >> 
> > >> Do you mean registering a skb->destructor for pktgen then set and check
> > >> bits in skb->tx_flag?
> > > 
> > > Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter
> > > (number of packets pending), then just spin while number of packets
> > > pending is over threshold.
> > > --
> > 
> > Not sure this is the best method, since pktgen was used to test the tx
> > process of the device driver and NIC. If we use skb_orhpan(), we would
> > miss the test of tx completion part.
> 
> There are other places that delay freeing and your solution would mean
> finding and fixing all those. Code that does that already has to use
> skb_orphan() to work, and I was looking for a way that could use that.
> Introducing another flag value seems like a long term burden.
> 

Get the point, will draft another version.
> Alternatively, virtio could do cleanup more aggressively. Maybe in response
> to ring getting half full, or add a cleanup timer or something to avoid the
> problem.

May worth to try. Another method is that virtio has a feature to notify guest 
when tx ring is empty, we could free the old tx skbs there. But it may brings 
extra overhead. If we could let virtio_net free the old tx skb timely, it 
would be easier to bring BQL support to virtio_net also.

Thanks
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-11-29 Thread Jason Wang
On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 08:53:05 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
 On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:48:52 +0800
 
 Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
  On 11/28/2012 12:49 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
   On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
   
   Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
   On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
   On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
   
   Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
   Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has
   been sent
   (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which
   optimizes for virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the
   next packet sending. This would lead the pktgen to wait forever in
   the refcount of the skb if no other pakcet will be sent afterwards.
   
   Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY
   which could notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb
   immediately after it has been sent and let it not to wait for the
   refcount to be one.
   
   Signed-off-by: Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com
   
   Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb-destructor.
   There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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   Hi Stephen:
   
   Do you mean registering a skb-destructor for pktgen then set and check
   bits in skb-tx_flag?
   
   Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter
   (number of packets pending), then just spin while number of packets
   pending is over threshold.
   --
  
  Not sure this is the best method, since pktgen was used to test the tx
  process of the device driver and NIC. If we use skb_orhpan(), we would
  miss the test of tx completion part.
 
 There are other places that delay freeing and your solution would mean
 finding and fixing all those. Code that does that already has to use
 skb_orphan() to work, and I was looking for a way that could use that.
 Introducing another flag value seems like a long term burden.
 

Get the point, will draft another version.
 Alternatively, virtio could do cleanup more aggressively. Maybe in response
 to ring getting half full, or add a cleanup timer or something to avoid the
 problem.

May worth to try. Another method is that virtio has a feature to notify guest 
when tx ring is empty, we could free the old tx skbs there. But it may brings 
extra overhead. If we could let virtio_net free the old tx skb timely, it 
would be easier to bring BQL support to virtio_net also.

Thanks
 
 
 
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-11-29 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 06:13:13PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
 On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 08:53:05 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
  On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:48:52 +0800
  
  Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
   On 11/28/2012 12:49 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800

Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800

Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has
been sent
(usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which
optimizes for virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the
next packet sending. This would lead the pktgen to wait forever in
the refcount of the skb if no other pakcet will be sent afterwards.

Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY
which could notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb
immediately after it has been sent and let it not to wait for the
refcount to be one.

Signed-off-by: Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com

Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb-destructor.
There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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Hi Stephen:

Do you mean registering a skb-destructor for pktgen then set and check
bits in skb-tx_flag?

Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter
(number of packets pending), then just spin while number of packets
pending is over threshold.
--
   
   Not sure this is the best method, since pktgen was used to test the tx
   process of the device driver and NIC. If we use skb_orhpan(), we would
   miss the test of tx completion part.
  
  There are other places that delay freeing and your solution would mean
  finding and fixing all those. Code that does that already has to use
  skb_orphan() to work, and I was looking for a way that could use that.
  Introducing another flag value seems like a long term burden.
  
 
 Get the point, will draft another version.

  Alternatively, virtio could do cleanup more aggressively. Maybe in response
  to ring getting half full, or add a cleanup timer or something to avoid the
  problem.

Timer would prevent complete deadlock but it is very expensive
in the virt scenario.
pulling at ring half full would only help if ring gets half full :)
which it does not have to.

 
 May worth to try. Another method is that virtio has a feature to notify guest 
 when tx ring is empty, we could free the old tx skbs there.
 But it may brings 
 extra overhead. If we could let virtio_net free the old tx skb timely, it 
 would be easier to bring BQL support to virtio_net also.
 
 Thanks

We used to use notify on empty - it's still very slow.

  
  
  
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-11-29 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:30:13 +0200
Michael S. Tsirkin m...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 06:13:13PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
  On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 08:53:05 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote:
   On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:48:52 +0800
   
   Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
On 11/28/2012 12:49 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
 On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
 
 Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
 
 Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
 Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has
 been sent
 (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which
 optimizes for virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during 
 the
 next packet sending. This would lead the pktgen to wait forever in
 the refcount of the skb if no other pakcet will be sent afterwards.
 
 Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY
 which could notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb
 immediately after it has been sent and let it not to wait for the
 refcount to be one.
 
 Signed-off-by: Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com
 
 Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb-destructor.
 There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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 Hi Stephen:
 
 Do you mean registering a skb-destructor for pktgen then set and 
 check
 bits in skb-tx_flag?
 
 Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter
 (number of packets pending), then just spin while number of packets
 pending is over threshold.
 --

Not sure this is the best method, since pktgen was used to test the tx
process of the device driver and NIC. If we use skb_orhpan(), we would
miss the test of tx completion part.
   
   There are other places that delay freeing and your solution would mean
   finding and fixing all those. Code that does that already has to use
   skb_orphan() to work, and I was looking for a way that could use that.
   Introducing another flag value seems like a long term burden.
   
  
  Get the point, will draft another version.
 
   Alternatively, virtio could do cleanup more aggressively. Maybe in 
   response
   to ring getting half full, or add a cleanup timer or something to avoid 
   the
   problem.
 
 Timer would prevent complete deadlock but it is very expensive
 in the virt scenario.
 pulling at ring half full would only help if ring gets half full :)
 which it does not have to.

A timer that fires once (when idle) to mop up the last packet in a stream
would be not very expensive. Most of the time, it would just be continually
rescheduled.
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-11-28 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:48:52 +0800
Jason Wang  wrote:

> On 11/28/2012 12:49 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
> > Jason Wang  wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
> >>> Jason Wang  wrote:
> >>>
>  Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has been 
>  sent
>  (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which 
>  optimizes for
>  virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the next packet 
>  sending. This
>  would lead the pktgen to wait forever in the refcount of the skb if no 
>  other
>  pakcet will be sent afterwards.
> 
>  Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY which 
>  could
>  notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb immediately after it 
>  has
>  been sent and let it not to wait for the refcount to be one.
> 
>  Signed-off-by: Jason Wang 
> >>> Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb->destructor.
> >>> There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
> >>> --
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> >> Hi Stephen:
> >>
> >> Do you mean registering a skb->destructor for pktgen then set and check
> >> bits in skb->tx_flag?
> > Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter 
> > (number of packets pending),
> > then just spin while number of packets pending is over threshold.
> > --
> 
> Not sure this is the best method, since pktgen was used to test the tx 
> process of the device driver and NIC. If we use skb_orhpan(), we would 
> miss the test of tx completion part.

There are other places that delay freeing and your solution would mean finding
and fixing all those. Code that does that already has to use skb_orphan() to
work, and I was looking for a way that could use that. Introducing another flag
value seems like a long term burden.

Alternatively, virtio could do cleanup more aggressively. Maybe in response to
ring getting half full, or add a cleanup timer or something to avoid the 
problem.



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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-11-28 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:48:52 +0800
Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:

 On 11/28/2012 12:49 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
  On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
  Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
  On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
  Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has been 
  sent
  (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which 
  optimizes for
  virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the next packet 
  sending. This
  would lead the pktgen to wait forever in the refcount of the skb if no 
  other
  pakcet will be sent afterwards.
 
  Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY which 
  could
  notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb immediately after it 
  has
  been sent and let it not to wait for the refcount to be one.
 
  Signed-off-by: Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com
  Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb-destructor.
  There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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  Hi Stephen:
 
  Do you mean registering a skb-destructor for pktgen then set and check
  bits in skb-tx_flag?
  Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter 
  (number of packets pending),
  then just spin while number of packets pending is over threshold.
  --
 
 Not sure this is the best method, since pktgen was used to test the tx 
 process of the device driver and NIC. If we use skb_orhpan(), we would 
 miss the test of tx completion part.

There are other places that delay freeing and your solution would mean finding
and fixing all those. Code that does that already has to use skb_orphan() to
work, and I was looking for a way that could use that. Introducing another flag
value seems like a long term burden.

Alternatively, virtio could do cleanup more aggressively. Maybe in response to
ring getting half full, or add a cleanup timer or something to avoid the 
problem.



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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-11-27 Thread Jason Wang

On 11/28/2012 12:49 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:

On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
Jason Wang  wrote:


On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
Jason Wang  wrote:


Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has been sent
(usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which optimizes for
virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the next packet sending. This
would lead the pktgen to wait forever in the refcount of the skb if no other
pakcet will be sent afterwards.

Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY which could
notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb immediately after it has
been sent and let it not to wait for the refcount to be one.

Signed-off-by: Jason Wang 

Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb->destructor.
There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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Hi Stephen:

Do you mean registering a skb->destructor for pktgen then set and check
bits in skb->tx_flag?

Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter (number of 
packets pending),
then just spin while number of packets pending is over threshold.
--


Not sure this is the best method, since pktgen was used to test the tx 
process of the device driver and NIC. If we use skb_orhpan(), we would 
miss the test of tx completion part.

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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-11-27 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
Jason Wang  wrote:

> On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
> > Jason Wang  wrote:
> >
> >> Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has been sent
> >> (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which optimizes 
> >> for
> >> virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the next packet 
> >> sending. This
> >> would lead the pktgen to wait forever in the refcount of the skb if no 
> >> other
> >> pakcet will be sent afterwards.
> >>
> >> Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY which 
> >> could
> >> notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb immediately after it 
> >> has
> >> been sent and let it not to wait for the refcount to be one.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Jason Wang 
> > Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb->destructor.
> > There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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> Hi Stephen:
> 
> Do you mean registering a skb->destructor for pktgen then set and check 
> bits in skb->tx_flag?

Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter (number of 
packets pending),
then just spin while number of packets pending is over threshold.
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-11-27 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:

 On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
  On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
  Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has been sent
  (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which optimizes 
  for
  virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the next packet 
  sending. This
  would lead the pktgen to wait forever in the refcount of the skb if no 
  other
  pakcet will be sent afterwards.
 
  Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY which 
  could
  notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb immediately after it 
  has
  been sent and let it not to wait for the refcount to be one.
 
  Signed-off-by: Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com
  Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb-destructor.
  There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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 Hi Stephen:
 
 Do you mean registering a skb-destructor for pktgen then set and check 
 bits in skb-tx_flag?

Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter (number of 
packets pending),
then just spin while number of packets pending is over threshold.
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-11-27 Thread Jason Wang

On 11/28/2012 12:49 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:

On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0800
Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:


On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:


Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has been sent
(usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which optimizes for
virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the next packet sending. This
would lead the pktgen to wait forever in the refcount of the skb if no other
pakcet will be sent afterwards.

Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY which could
notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb immediately after it has
been sent and let it not to wait for the refcount to be one.

Signed-off-by: Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com

Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb-destructor.
There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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Hi Stephen:

Do you mean registering a skb-destructor for pktgen then set and check
bits in skb-tx_flag?

Yes. Register a destructor that does something like update a counter (number of 
packets pending),
then just spin while number of packets pending is over threshold.
--


Not sure this is the best method, since pktgen was used to test the tx 
process of the device driver and NIC. If we use skb_orhpan(), we would 
miss the test of tx completion part.

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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-11-26 Thread Jason Wang

On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
Jason Wang  wrote:


Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has been sent
(usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which optimizes for
virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the next packet sending. This
would lead the pktgen to wait forever in the refcount of the skb if no other
pakcet will be sent afterwards.

Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY which could
notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb immediately after it has
been sent and let it not to wait for the refcount to be one.

Signed-off-by: Jason Wang 

Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb->destructor.
There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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Hi Stephen:

Do you mean registering a skb->destructor for pktgen then set and check 
bits in skb->tx_flag?

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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-11-26 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
Jason Wang  wrote:

> Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has been sent
> (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which optimizes for
> virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the next packet sending. 
> This
> would lead the pktgen to wait forever in the refcount of the skb if no other
> pakcet will be sent afterwards.
> 
> Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY which could
> notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb immediately after it has
> been sent and let it not to wait for the refcount to be one.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jason Wang 

Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb->destructor.
There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-11-26 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:

 Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has been sent
 (usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which optimizes for
 virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the next packet sending. 
 This
 would lead the pktgen to wait forever in the refcount of the skb if no other
 pakcet will be sent afterwards.
 
 Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY which could
 notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb immediately after it has
 been sent and let it not to wait for the refcount to be one.
 
 Signed-off-by: Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com

Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb-destructor.
There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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Re: [net-next RFC] pktgen: don't wait for the device who doesn't free skb immediately after sent

2012-11-26 Thread Jason Wang

On 11/27/2012 01:37 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:52 +0800
Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com wrote:


Some deivces do not free the old tx skbs immediately after it has been sent
(usually in tx interrupt). One such example is virtio-net which optimizes for
virt and only free the possible old tx skbs during the next packet sending. This
would lead the pktgen to wait forever in the refcount of the skb if no other
pakcet will be sent afterwards.

Solving this issue by introducing a new flag IFF_TX_SKB_FREE_DELAY which could
notify the pktgen that the device does not free skb immediately after it has
been sent and let it not to wait for the refcount to be one.

Signed-off-by: Jason Wang jasow...@redhat.com

Another alternative would be using skb_orphan() and skb-destructor.
There are other cases where skb's are not freed right away.
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Hi Stephen:

Do you mean registering a skb-destructor for pktgen then set and check 
bits in skb-tx_flag?

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