Re: Problem with kernel 2.2.19 Ultra-DMA and SMP, once more
Hi, I guess there are no simple answers... Below I have 3 different answers to my previous questions. As they relate to the same problem,I descided to put them togheter in this mail. Mark Hahn don't realy seams to agree with Andre about if noapic is crippling the system or not. Alan Cox says that VIA and SMP are not supported for the moment by 2.2. What does that mean? Can I use it at all or do I risk to get hardware damage of my motherboard or just an unstable system? Shane Wegner seams to have some sort of work-around by mixing new and old versions of IDE-patch. >From all this I have a new three-stage question; Is it just luck that Shane got it working? Or do I have to wait for 2.2.20 or go for 2.4 (which I'm not mentally prepered for...)? Or how crippled is a system without APIC? _\\|//_ (-0-0-) /---ooO-(_)-Ooo--\ | Magnus SandbergEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Network Engineer, Bluelabs http://www.bluelabs.se/ | | Phone: +46-8-470 2155(FAX: +46-8-470 2199)GSM: +46-708-225 805 | \/ || || ooO Ooo - On 2nd of June 2001 Mark Hahn wrote; - > Will the APIC-problems be solved in the future or do I have to deside upon > running "noapic" semi-crippled or not run Ultra-DMA? noapic is *not* semi-crippled. it may even be faster than apic mode. turning off udma, though, that's definitely crippling. - On 2nd of June 2001 Alan Cox wrote; - > Hi Andre, > The motherboard has VIA-chipset. 2.2 does not support VIA SMP. 2.4 should get it right. 2.2.20 may support it but I'm working on a 3 month schedule for 2.2.20 - On 3rd of June 2001 Shane Wegner wrote; - On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 10:03:47PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi again, > > Earlier today I wrote about my SMP and Ultra-DMA problem. Now have I > written down the boot information. I hope that the attachment show the > correct information, it was written in W*rd so some lower case chars can > have been converted into upper case... > > I also checked the IDE-patch and the filename was > kernel-patch-2.2.19-ide_20010325-1.tar.gz. > Could a newer IDE-patch handle SMP better than this one? Not presently however an older one can. I posted on this a few weeks back and what worked for me was to get the IDE patch ide-2.2.19.05042001 from ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/ide-2.2.19. That is the most recent as of this writing. Then replace the via82cxxx.c driver which that created by patching 2.2.18 with ide-2.2.18.1221. This allowed me to boot fine with VIA SMP and everything works well. Regards, Shane - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Problem with kernel 2.2.19 Ultra-DMA and SMP, once more
Hi, I guess there are no simple answers... Below I have 3 different answers to my previous questions. As they relate to the same problem,I descided to put them togheter in this mail. Mark Hahn don't realy seams to agree with Andre about if noapic is crippling the system or not. Alan Cox says that VIA and SMP are not supported for the moment by 2.2. What does that mean? Can I use it at all or do I risk to get hardware damage of my motherboard or just an unstable system? Shane Wegner seams to have some sort of work-around by mixing new and old versions of IDE-patch. From all this I have a new three-stage question; Is it just luck that Shane got it working? Or do I have to wait for 2.2.20 or go for 2.4 (which I'm not mentally prepered for...)? Or how crippled is a system without APIC? _\\|//_ (-0-0-) /---ooO-(_)-Ooo--\ | Magnus SandbergEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Network Engineer, Bluelabs http://www.bluelabs.se/ | | Phone: +46-8-470 2155(FAX: +46-8-470 2199)GSM: +46-708-225 805 | \/ || || ooO Ooo - On 2nd of June 2001 Mark Hahn wrote; - Will the APIC-problems be solved in the future or do I have to deside upon running noapic semi-crippled or not run Ultra-DMA? noapic is *not* semi-crippled. it may even be faster than apic mode. turning off udma, though, that's definitely crippling. - On 2nd of June 2001 Alan Cox wrote; - Hi Andre, The motherboard has VIA-chipset. 2.2 does not support VIA SMP. 2.4 should get it right. 2.2.20 may support it but I'm working on a 3 month schedule for 2.2.20 - On 3rd of June 2001 Shane Wegner wrote; - On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 10:03:47PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again, Earlier today I wrote about my SMP and Ultra-DMA problem. Now have I written down the boot information. I hope that the attachment show the correct information, it was written in W*rd so some lower case chars can have been converted into upper case... I also checked the IDE-patch and the filename was kernel-patch-2.2.19-ide_20010325-1.tar.gz. Could a newer IDE-patch handle SMP better than this one? Not presently however an older one can. I posted on this a few weeks back and what worked for me was to get the IDE patch ide-2.2.19.05042001 from ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/ide-2.2.19. That is the most recent as of this writing. Then replace the via82cxxx.c driver which that created by patching 2.2.18 with ide-2.2.18.1221. This allowed me to boot fine with VIA SMP and everything works well. Regards, Shane - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Problem with kernel 2.2.19 Ultra-DMA and SMP, once more
Hi Andre, The motherboard has VIA-chipset. What does this mean for me? Will the APIC-problems be solved in the future or do I have to deside upon running "noapic" semi-crippled or not run Ultra-DMA? _\\|//_ (-0-0-) /---ooO-(_)-Ooo--\ | Magnus SandbergEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Network Engineer, Bluelabs http://www.bluelabs.se/ | | Phone: +46-8-470 2155(FAX: +46-8-470 2199)GSM: +46-708-225 805 | \/ || || ooO Ooo - On 1st of June 2001 Andre Hedrick wrote; - If this is a VIA SMP system there are APIC problems that you do not want to even think about addressing. MPS1.1 and passing "noapic" will fix most of there mess, but you have a semi-crippled system, but it runs. On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi once more... > > I'm sorry for the layout of this mail. It is written in a web mail > system... > The attachements are in ASCII format even if the web-mail make it base-64 > > Now I have compiled a vanilla 2.2.19 kernel and have SMP working, without > Ultra-DMA. I used the functional kernel config from 2.2.19-ide and just > activated SMP. > > >From that I have 3 very simular kernel configurations: > 2.2.19 with Hidrick's IDE-patch, no SMP: working > 2.2.19 without IDE-patch, with SMP: working > 2.2.19 with IDE-patch and SMP: not booting > > With all the information I hope that someone can help me with the > IDE-and-SMP problem. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Problem with kernel 2.2.19 Ultra-DMA and SMP, once more
Hi Andre, The motherboard has VIA-chipset. What does this mean for me? Will the APIC-problems be solved in the future or do I have to deside upon running noapic semi-crippled or not run Ultra-DMA? _\\|//_ (-0-0-) /---ooO-(_)-Ooo--\ | Magnus SandbergEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Network Engineer, Bluelabs http://www.bluelabs.se/ | | Phone: +46-8-470 2155(FAX: +46-8-470 2199)GSM: +46-708-225 805 | \/ || || ooO Ooo - On 1st of June 2001 Andre Hedrick wrote; - If this is a VIA SMP system there are APIC problems that you do not want to even think about addressing. MPS1.1 and passing noapic will fix most of there mess, but you have a semi-crippled system, but it runs. On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi once more... I'm sorry for the layout of this mail. It is written in a web mail system... The attachements are in ASCII format even if the web-mail make it base-64 Now I have compiled a vanilla 2.2.19 kernel and have SMP working, without Ultra-DMA. I used the functional kernel config from 2.2.19-ide and just activated SMP. From that I have 3 very simular kernel configurations: 2.2.19 with Hidrick's IDE-patch, no SMP: working 2.2.19 without IDE-patch, with SMP: working 2.2.19 with IDE-patch and SMP: not booting With all the information I hope that someone can help me with the IDE-and-SMP problem. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
RE: Problem with kernel 2.2.19 Ultra-DMA and SMP, once more
:: If this is a VIA SMP system there are APIC problems that you :: do not want :: to even think about addressing. :: :: MPS1.1 and passing "noapic" will fix most of there mess, but :: you have a :: semi-crippled system, but it runs. Andre, I don't suppose these APIC problems are documented anywhere...? -- Juha, who's wrestling with a VIA 694X dualie mobo here. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Problem with kernel 2.2.19 Ultra-DMA and SMP, once more
If this is a VIA SMP system there are APIC problems that you do not want to even think about addressing. MPS1.1 and passing "noapic" will fix most of there mess, but you have a semi-crippled system, but it runs. On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi once more... > > I'm sorry for the layout of this mail. It is written in a web mail > system... > The attachements are in ASCII format even if the web-mail make it base-64 > > Now I have compiled a vanilla 2.2.19 kernel and have SMP working, without > Ultra-DMA. I used the functional kernel config from 2.2.19-ide and just > activated SMP. > > >From that I have 3 very simular kernel configurations: > 2.2.19 with Hidrick's IDE-patch, no SMP: working > 2.2.19 without IDE-patch, with SMP: working > 2.2.19 with IDE-patch and SMP: not booting > > With all the information I hope that someone can help me with the > IDE-and-SMP > problem. > > _\\|//_ > (-0-0-) > /---ooO-(_)-Ooo--\ > | Magnus SandbergEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | Network Engineer, Bluelabs http://www.bluelabs.se/ | > | Phone: +46-8-470 2155(FAX: +46-8-470 2199)GSM: +46-708-225 805 | > \/ > || || > ooO Ooo Andre Hedrick ASL Kernel Development Linux ATA Development - ASL, Inc. Toll free: 1-877-ASL-3535 1757 Houret Court Fax: 1-408-941-2071 Milpitas, CA 95035Web: www.aslab.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Problem with kernel 2.2.19 Ultra-DMA and SMP, once more
Hi once more... I'm sorry for the layout of this mail. It is written in a web mail system... The attachements are in ASCII format even if the web-mail make it base-64 Now I have compiled a vanilla 2.2.19 kernel and have SMP working, without Ultra-DMA. I used the functional kernel config from 2.2.19-ide and just activated SMP. >From that I have 3 very simular kernel configurations: 2.2.19 with Hidrick's IDE-patch, no SMP: working 2.2.19 without IDE-patch, with SMP: working 2.2.19 with IDE-patch and SMP: not booting With all the information I hope that someone can help me with the IDE-and-SMP problem. _\\|//_ (-0-0-) /---ooO-(_)-Ooo--\ | Magnus SandbergEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Network Engineer, Bluelabs http://www.bluelabs.se/ | | Phone: +46-8-470 2155(FAX: +46-8-470 2199)GSM: +46-708-225 805 | \/ || || ooO Ooo kernel-2.2.19_1st-smp-no_cleanup.config boot-log-2.2.19-smp-no_ide.txt
Problem with kernel 2.2.19 Ultra-DMA and SMP, once more
Hi once more... I'm sorry for the layout of this mail. It is written in a web mail system... The attachements are in ASCII format even if the web-mail make it base-64 Now I have compiled a vanilla 2.2.19 kernel and have SMP working, without Ultra-DMA. I used the functional kernel config from 2.2.19-ide and just activated SMP. From that I have 3 very simular kernel configurations: 2.2.19 with Hidrick's IDE-patch, no SMP: working 2.2.19 without IDE-patch, with SMP: working 2.2.19 with IDE-patch and SMP: not booting With all the information I hope that someone can help me with the IDE-and-SMP problem. _\\|//_ (-0-0-) /---ooO-(_)-Ooo--\ | Magnus SandbergEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Network Engineer, Bluelabs http://www.bluelabs.se/ | | Phone: +46-8-470 2155(FAX: +46-8-470 2199)GSM: +46-708-225 805 | \/ || || ooO Ooo kernel-2.2.19_1st-smp-no_cleanup.config boot-log-2.2.19-smp-no_ide.txt
Re: Problem with kernel 2.2.19 Ultra-DMA and SMP, once more
If this is a VIA SMP system there are APIC problems that you do not want to even think about addressing. MPS1.1 and passing noapic will fix most of there mess, but you have a semi-crippled system, but it runs. On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi once more... I'm sorry for the layout of this mail. It is written in a web mail system... The attachements are in ASCII format even if the web-mail make it base-64 Now I have compiled a vanilla 2.2.19 kernel and have SMP working, without Ultra-DMA. I used the functional kernel config from 2.2.19-ide and just activated SMP. From that I have 3 very simular kernel configurations: 2.2.19 with Hidrick's IDE-patch, no SMP: working 2.2.19 without IDE-patch, with SMP: working 2.2.19 with IDE-patch and SMP: not booting With all the information I hope that someone can help me with the IDE-and-SMP problem. _\\|//_ (-0-0-) /---ooO-(_)-Ooo--\ | Magnus SandbergEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Network Engineer, Bluelabs http://www.bluelabs.se/ | | Phone: +46-8-470 2155(FAX: +46-8-470 2199)GSM: +46-708-225 805 | \/ || || ooO Ooo Andre Hedrick ASL Kernel Development Linux ATA Development - ASL, Inc. Toll free: 1-877-ASL-3535 1757 Houret Court Fax: 1-408-941-2071 Milpitas, CA 95035Web: www.aslab.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
