Re: Question about cpufreq governors

2007-07-07 Thread DervishD
Hi Arjan :)

 * Arjan van de Ven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit:
> On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 23:54 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> > On Jul 6 2007 22:50, DervishD wrote:
> > >
> > >What I want to know is if I can choose "ondemand" governor instead
> > >of the recommended for AMD64, namely the "conservative" governor, since
> > >I will be switching between those two frequencies. I haven't found any
> > >information about my CPU regarding latency when switching between
> > >frequencies, so I don't know if I will be gaining anything using the
> > >"conservative" governor.
> > >
> > >Which governor is better suited for a CPU with only two fid's,
> > >"ondemand" or "conservative"?
> > 
> > Depends on what you want. ondemand instantly switches when there is
> > something/nothing to do, while conservative uses a threshold (modeled upon
> > latency).
> 
> for power saving, the ondemand behavior is better in general. However if
> you have a cpu that switches frequency very slowly, you may be better to
> not go as high quickly because going back down is then burning more
> power than needed potentially...

That's the problem: I want to use "ondemand" but I don't know if it
will work properly with my CPU because I don't know if my CPU switches
frequency fast or slow :( I can find that information, although the
Kconfig file for cpufreq says that AMD64 has latency problems (but I can
confirm that, I'm afraid).

Thanks for your answer :)

Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado

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Re: Question about cpufreq governors

2007-07-07 Thread DervishD
Hi Jan :)

 * Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit:
> On Jul 6 2007 22:50, DervishD wrote:
> >
> >What I want to know is if I can choose "ondemand" governor instead
> >of the recommended for AMD64, namely the "conservative" governor, since
> >I will be switching between those two frequencies. I haven't found any
> >information about my CPU regarding latency when switching between
> >frequencies, so I don't know if I will be gaining anything using the
> >"conservative" governor.
> >
> >Which governor is better suited for a CPU with only two fid's,
> >"ondemand" or "conservative"?
> 
> Depends on what you want. ondemand instantly switches when there is
> something/nothing to do, while conservative uses a threshold (modeled upon
> latency).

Yes, I know the difference, I'm afraid I didn't ask my question
correctly O:). What I meant is that, since I don't know if my CPU has
latency problems when switching from "slow" freq to "fast" freq, if I
can use "ondemand" safely or if I must use "conservative" due to latency
problems with my CPU.

Thanks for your answer :)

Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado

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Re: Question about cpufreq governors

2007-07-07 Thread DervishD
Hi Jan :)

 * Jan Engelhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit:
 On Jul 6 2007 22:50, DervishD wrote:
 
 What I want to know is if I can choose ondemand governor instead
 of the recommended for AMD64, namely the conservative governor, since
 I will be switching between those two frequencies. I haven't found any
 information about my CPU regarding latency when switching between
 frequencies, so I don't know if I will be gaining anything using the
 conservative governor.
 
 Which governor is better suited for a CPU with only two fid's,
 ondemand or conservative?
 
 Depends on what you want. ondemand instantly switches when there is
 something/nothing to do, while conservative uses a threshold (modeled upon
 latency).

Yes, I know the difference, I'm afraid I didn't ask my question
correctly O:). What I meant is that, since I don't know if my CPU has
latency problems when switching from slow freq to fast freq, if I
can use ondemand safely or if I must use conservative due to latency
problems with my CPU.

Thanks for your answer :)

Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado

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Re: Question about cpufreq governors

2007-07-07 Thread DervishD
Hi Arjan :)

 * Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit:
 On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 23:54 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
  On Jul 6 2007 22:50, DervishD wrote:
  
  What I want to know is if I can choose ondemand governor instead
  of the recommended for AMD64, namely the conservative governor, since
  I will be switching between those two frequencies. I haven't found any
  information about my CPU regarding latency when switching between
  frequencies, so I don't know if I will be gaining anything using the
  conservative governor.
  
  Which governor is better suited for a CPU with only two fid's,
  ondemand or conservative?
  
  Depends on what you want. ondemand instantly switches when there is
  something/nothing to do, while conservative uses a threshold (modeled upon
  latency).
 
 for power saving, the ondemand behavior is better in general. However if
 you have a cpu that switches frequency very slowly, you may be better to
 not go as high quickly because going back down is then burning more
 power than needed potentially...

That's the problem: I want to use ondemand but I don't know if it
will work properly with my CPU because I don't know if my CPU switches
frequency fast or slow :( I can find that information, although the
Kconfig file for cpufreq says that AMD64 has latency problems (but I can
confirm that, I'm afraid).

Thanks for your answer :)

Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado

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Re: Question about cpufreq governors

2007-07-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 23:54 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> On Jul 6 2007 22:50, DervishD wrote:
> >
> >What I want to know is if I can choose "ondemand" governor instead
> >of the recommended for AMD64, namely the "conservative" governor, since
> >I will be switching between those two frequencies. I haven't found any
> >information about my CPU regarding latency when switching between
> >frequencies, so I don't know if I will be gaining anything using the
> >"conservative" governor.
> >
> >Which governor is better suited for a CPU with only two fid's,
> >"ondemand" or "conservative"?
> 
> Depends on what you want. ondemand instantly switches when there is
> something/nothing to do, while conservative uses a threshold (modeled upon
> latency).

for power saving, the ondemand behavior is better in general. However if
you have a cpu that switches frequency very slowly, you may be better to
not go as high quickly because going back down is then burning more
power than needed potentially...



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Re: Question about cpufreq governors

2007-07-06 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Jul 6 2007 22:50, DervishD wrote:
>
>What I want to know is if I can choose "ondemand" governor instead
>of the recommended for AMD64, namely the "conservative" governor, since
>I will be switching between those two frequencies. I haven't found any
>information about my CPU regarding latency when switching between
>frequencies, so I don't know if I will be gaining anything using the
>"conservative" governor.
>
>Which governor is better suited for a CPU with only two fid's,
>"ondemand" or "conservative"?

Depends on what you want. ondemand instantly switches when there is
something/nothing to do, while conservative uses a threshold (modeled upon
latency).


Jan
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Question about cpufreq governors

2007-07-06 Thread DervishD
Hi all :)

I have an AMD Athlon64, and according to "powernow-k8", it has to
fid's, for 1000MHz and 1800MHz. I don't know if this is correct or if I
should enable ACPI to have more fid's, but my question is not about
this.

What I want to know is if I can choose "ondemand" governor instead
of the recommended for AMD64, namely the "conservative" governor, since
I will be switching between those two frequencies. I haven't found any
information about my CPU regarding latency when switching between
frequencies, so I don't know if I will be gaining anything using the
"conservative" governor.

Which governor is better suited for a CPU with only two fid's,
"ondemand" or "conservative"?

Thanks a lot in advance :)

Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado

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Question about cpufreq governors

2007-07-06 Thread DervishD
Hi all :)

I have an AMD Athlon64, and according to powernow-k8, it has to
fid's, for 1000MHz and 1800MHz. I don't know if this is correct or if I
should enable ACPI to have more fid's, but my question is not about
this.

What I want to know is if I can choose ondemand governor instead
of the recommended for AMD64, namely the conservative governor, since
I will be switching between those two frequencies. I haven't found any
information about my CPU regarding latency when switching between
frequencies, so I don't know if I will be gaining anything using the
conservative governor.

Which governor is better suited for a CPU with only two fid's,
ondemand or conservative?

Thanks a lot in advance :)

Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado

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Re: Question about cpufreq governors

2007-07-06 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Jul 6 2007 22:50, DervishD wrote:

What I want to know is if I can choose ondemand governor instead
of the recommended for AMD64, namely the conservative governor, since
I will be switching between those two frequencies. I haven't found any
information about my CPU regarding latency when switching between
frequencies, so I don't know if I will be gaining anything using the
conservative governor.

Which governor is better suited for a CPU with only two fid's,
ondemand or conservative?

Depends on what you want. ondemand instantly switches when there is
something/nothing to do, while conservative uses a threshold (modeled upon
latency).


Jan
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Re: Question about cpufreq governors

2007-07-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 23:54 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
 On Jul 6 2007 22:50, DervishD wrote:
 
 What I want to know is if I can choose ondemand governor instead
 of the recommended for AMD64, namely the conservative governor, since
 I will be switching between those two frequencies. I haven't found any
 information about my CPU regarding latency when switching between
 frequencies, so I don't know if I will be gaining anything using the
 conservative governor.
 
 Which governor is better suited for a CPU with only two fid's,
 ondemand or conservative?
 
 Depends on what you want. ondemand instantly switches when there is
 something/nothing to do, while conservative uses a threshold (modeled upon
 latency).

for power saving, the ondemand behavior is better in general. However if
you have a cpu that switches frequency very slowly, you may be better to
not go as high quickly because going back down is then burning more
power than needed potentially...



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