Re: [PATCH] doc update/fixes for sysrq.txt

2001-01-31 Thread David Ford

Alan Cox wrote:

> > > AFAIK, this hasn't ever been true.  I have never had to specifically
> > > enable it at run time.
> >
> > I was suspicious of that in the old doc but thought I'd leave it in...
> > Should have asked for feedback on it, but you caught it anyway, thanks!
> >
> > Here's a patch against the first that simply removes the lines.
>
> Its true in 2.2

At what point in 2.2 did it become true?  I rarely used 2.2, I went from 2.1
to 2.3 and I don't recall having to ever enable it.  Once it was compiled in
it was on.

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Re: [PATCH] doc update/fixes for sysrq.txt

2001-01-31 Thread Alan Cox

> > AFAIK, this hasn't ever been true.  I have never had to specifically
> > enable it at run time.
> 
> I was suspicious of that in the old doc but thought I'd leave it in...
> Should have asked for feedback on it, but you caught it anyway, thanks!
> 
> Here's a patch against the first that simply removes the lines.

Its true in 2.2

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Re: [PATCH] doc update/fixes for sysrq.txt

2001-01-31 Thread Alan Cox

  AFAIK, this hasn't ever been true.  I have never had to specifically
  enable it at run time.
 
 I was suspicious of that in the old doc but thought I'd leave it in...
 Should have asked for feedback on it, but you caught it anyway, thanks!
 
 Here's a patch against the first that simply removes the lines.

Its true in 2.2

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Re: [PATCH] doc update/fixes for sysrq.txt

2001-01-31 Thread David Ford

Alan Cox wrote:

   AFAIK, this hasn't ever been true.  I have never had to specifically
   enable it at run time.
 
  I was suspicious of that in the old doc but thought I'd leave it in...
  Should have asked for feedback on it, but you caught it anyway, thanks!
 
  Here's a patch against the first that simply removes the lines.

 Its true in 2.2

At what point in 2.2 did it become true?  I rarely used 2.2, I went from 2.1
to 2.3 and I don't recall having to ever enable it.  Once it was compiled in
it was on.

-d

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Re: [PATCH] doc update/fixes for sysrq.txt

2001-01-29 Thread David Ford

Jonathan Earle wrote:

> > On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:35:50 +, David Ford wrote:
> > > AFAIK, this hasn't ever been true.  I have never had to specifically
> > > enable it at run time.
> >
> > I was suspicious of that in the old doc but thought I'd leave it in...
> > Should have asked for feedback on it, but you caught it
> > anyway, thanks!
> >
> > Here's a patch against the first that simply removes the lines.
>
> I'd suggest leaving those lines in; I've never had it enabled by default.
> I've run Debian and Redhat systems, and both had to have the option
> specifically turned ON via startup script - simply compiling it into a
> kernel did not enable it.
>
> Jon

I suggest compiling it in and booting with init=/bin/bash, mounting /proc
and checking the value.  It is enabled by default.  A few distributions have
a boot script that enables or disables it based on the sysconfig.

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RE: [PATCH] doc update/fixes for sysrq.txt

2001-01-29 Thread Jonathan Earle

> On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:35:50 +, David Ford wrote:
> > AFAIK, this hasn't ever been true.  I have never had to specifically
> > enable it at run time.
> 
> I was suspicious of that in the old doc but thought I'd leave it in...
> Should have asked for feedback on it, but you caught it 
> anyway, thanks!
> 
> Here's a patch against the first that simply removes the lines.

I'd suggest leaving those lines in; I've never had it enabled by default.
I've run Debian and Redhat systems, and both had to have the option
specifically turned ON via startup script - simply compiling it into a
kernel did not enable it.

Jon
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RE: [PATCH] doc update/fixes for sysrq.txt

2001-01-29 Thread Jonathan Earle

 On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:35:50 +, David Ford wrote:
  AFAIK, this hasn't ever been true.  I have never had to specifically
  enable it at run time.
 
 I was suspicious of that in the old doc but thought I'd leave it in...
 Should have asked for feedback on it, but you caught it 
 anyway, thanks!
 
 Here's a patch against the first that simply removes the lines.

I'd suggest leaving those lines in; I've never had it enabled by default.
I've run Debian and Redhat systems, and both had to have the option
specifically turned ON via startup script - simply compiling it into a
kernel did not enable it.

Jon
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Re: [PATCH] doc update/fixes for sysrq.txt

2001-01-29 Thread David Ford

Jonathan Earle wrote:

  On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:35:50 +, David Ford wrote:
   AFAIK, this hasn't ever been true.  I have never had to specifically
   enable it at run time.
 
  I was suspicious of that in the old doc but thought I'd leave it in...
  Should have asked for feedback on it, but you caught it
  anyway, thanks!
 
  Here's a patch against the first that simply removes the lines.

 I'd suggest leaving those lines in; I've never had it enabled by default.
 I've run Debian and Redhat systems, and both had to have the option
 specifically turned ON via startup script - simply compiling it into a
 kernel did not enable it.

 Jon

I suggest compiling it in and booting with init=/bin/bash, mounting /proc
and checking the value.  It is enabled by default.  A few distributions have
a boot script that enables or disables it based on the sysconfig.

-d


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Re: [PATCH] doc update/fixes for sysrq.txt

2001-01-28 Thread Jeremy M. Dolan

On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:35:50 +, David Ford wrote:
> AFAIK, this hasn't ever been true.  I have never had to specifically
> enable it at run time.

I was suspicious of that in the old doc but thought I'd leave it in...
Should have asked for feedback on it, but you caught it anyway, thanks!

Here's a patch against the first that simply removes the lines.

/jmd


--- Documentation/sysrq.txt~Sun Jan 28 14:41:44 2001
+++ Documentation/sysrq.txt Sun Jan 28 14:41:52 2001
@@ -15,9 +15,6 @@
 
 echo "0" > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
 
-Note that previous versions disabled sysrq by default, and you were required
-to specifically enable it at run-time. That is not the case any longer.
-
 *  How do I use the magic SysRq key?
 
 On x86   - You press the key combo 'ALT-SysRq-'. Note - Some
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Re: [PATCH] doc update/fixes for sysrq.txt

2001-01-28 Thread David Ford

"Jeremy M. Dolan" wrote:

> +Note that previous versions disabled sysrq by default, and you were required
> +to specifically enable it at run-time. That is not the case any longer.

AFAIK, this hasn't ever been true.  I have never had to specifically enable it at
run time.  There are certain distributions which disabled it by default but this is
distribution specific, not by way of the kernel.

-d

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Re: [PATCH] doc update/fixes for sysrq.txt

2001-01-28 Thread David Ford

"Jeremy M. Dolan" wrote:

 +Note that previous versions disabled sysrq by default, and you were required
 +to specifically enable it at run-time. That is not the case any longer.

AFAIK, this hasn't ever been true.  I have never had to specifically enable it at
run time.  There are certain distributions which disabled it by default but this is
distribution specific, not by way of the kernel.

-d

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Re: [PATCH] doc update/fixes for sysrq.txt

2001-01-28 Thread Jeremy M. Dolan

On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:35:50 +, David Ford wrote:
 AFAIK, this hasn't ever been true.  I have never had to specifically
 enable it at run time.

I was suspicious of that in the old doc but thought I'd leave it in...
Should have asked for feedback on it, but you caught it anyway, thanks!

Here's a patch against the first that simply removes the lines.

/jmd


--- Documentation/sysrq.txt~Sun Jan 28 14:41:44 2001
+++ Documentation/sysrq.txt Sun Jan 28 14:41:52 2001
@@ -15,9 +15,6 @@
 
 echo "0"  /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
 
-Note that previous versions disabled sysrq by default, and you were required
-to specifically enable it at run-time. That is not the case any longer.
-
 *  How do I use the magic SysRq key?
 
 On x86   - You press the key combo 'ALT-SysRq-command key'. Note - Some
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