Re: [OT] Re: Linux Kernel include files
On Saturday 30 June 2007 08:02:16 Joerg Schilling wrote: > Willy Tarreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jörg, > > > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 12:39:57PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 12:27 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > > > David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > By the way, your mailer seems to be sometimes omitting > > > > > > In-Reply-To: and References: headers, which RFC2822 says you > > > > > > SHOULD include in replies. > > > > > > > > > > Sending such accusation without knowing the reason is not polite. > > > > > > > > It's not an accusation -- it's merely an observation. You may not > > > > have noticed that your mailer was misbehaving; now you _do_ know, and > > > > if you care about RFC compliance you might want to fix it. You're not > > > > _obliged_ to fix it, of course. I just thought you'd like to know. > > > > > > Well there you are: my mailer is definitely NOT missbehaving. > > > Please do not repeat similar accusations when not knowing the reason. > > > > Attacking people who suggest to you they *may* have noticed an anomaly is > > not polite at all, childish at best, and counter-productive in any case. > > Well, then please write this to the person who did attack me for no reason! > > What he did is typical trollish behavior, as he tried to turn a technical > based discussion into a flame war for no reason. > > Jörg Jörg - I see no attack. What I do see is a quite friendly notification that your mail program appears to be omitting those headers in certain mails and that such action is in violation of a published standard. Your response was inflammatory, rude and very trollish. And when the person calmly restated himself and the reason he made the original comment you again responded in an extremely unpleasant manner. When notified that your behavior was incorrect you pointed fingers and yelled "He started it!" - something that *CHILDREN* do. Since it appears that you act like a child its time to add you to my killfile again. DRH -- Dialup is like pissing through a pipette. Slow and excruciatingly painful. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [OT] Re: Linux Kernel include files
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) writes: > Willy Tarreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Jörg, >> >> On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 12:39:57PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: >> > David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 12:27 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: >> > > > David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > By the way, your mailer seems to be sometimes omitting >> > > > > In-Reply-To: and References: headers, which RFC2822 says >> > > > > you SHOULD include in replies. >> > > > >> > > > Sending such accusation without knowing the reason is not polite. >> > > >> > > It's not an accusation -- it's merely an observation. You may >> > > not have noticed that your mailer was misbehaving; now you _do_ >> > > know, and if you care about RFC compliance you might want to >> > > fix it. You're not _obliged_ to fix it, of course. I just >> > > thought you'd like to know. >> > >> > Well there you are: my mailer is definitely NOT missbehaving. >> > Please do not repeat similar accusations when not knowing the >> > reason. >> >> Attacking people who suggest to you they *may* have noticed an >> anomaly is not polite at all, childish at best, and >> counter-productive in any case. > > Well, then please write this to the person who did attack me for no > reason! > > What he did is typical trollish behavior, as he tried to turn a > technical based discussion into a flame war for no reason. Ah, it's nice to see Jörg back to his usual self. For a while there the headers discussion was looking almost reasonable. BTW Jörg, thanks for the absolutely fantastic real-life flame war you gave us at LinuxTag (by the Google booth, remember). I haven't had so much fun in a long time. Quite a few bystanders seemed rather entertained too. -- Måns Rullgård [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [OT] Re: Linux Kernel include files
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 02:02:16PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Willy Tarreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Jörg, > > > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 12:39:57PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 12:27 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > > > David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > By the way, your mailer seems to be sometimes omitting In-Reply-To: > > > > > > and > > > > > > References: headers, which RFC2822 says you SHOULD include in > > > > > > replies. > > > > > > > > > > Sending such accusation without knowing the reason is not polite. > > > > > > > > It's not an accusation -- it's merely an observation. You may not have > > > > noticed that your mailer was misbehaving; now you _do_ know, and if you > > > > care about RFC compliance you might want to fix it. You're not _obliged_ > > > > to fix it, of course. I just thought you'd like to know. > > > > > > Well there you are: my mailer is definitely NOT missbehaving. > > > Please do not repeat similar accusations when not knowing the reason. > > > > Attacking people who suggest to you they *may* have noticed an anomaly is > > not polite at all, childish at best, and counter-productive in any case. > > Well, then please write this to the person who did attack me for no reason! I illustrated what looked like to be his reason and it was valid here too, and you even removed the proofs on purpose of not commenting. > What he did is typical trollish behavior, as he tried to turn a technical > based discussion into a flame war for no reason. Oh yes, of course... Any advice to make mail communication better for everyone on a mailing list surely is trolling and trying to bring anything into a flame war... I am always amused by the contents of your rants. I've never known if you sometimes believe what you say, but it's not my problem anyway. Maybe having the last word by boring people make you feel like you're right. But if you cannot openly communicate with people on mailing lists, please first do not open discussions on subjects which are known to derivate into flame wars. This month has been particularly loaded with non-productive contents already. > Jörg [advertisements removed] Willy - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [OT] Re: Linux Kernel include files
Willy Tarreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jörg, > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 12:39:57PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 12:27 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > > David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > By the way, your mailer seems to be sometimes omitting In-Reply-To: > > > > > and > > > > > References: headers, which RFC2822 says you SHOULD include in > > > > > replies. > > > > > > > > Sending such accusation without knowing the reason is not polite. > > > > > > It's not an accusation -- it's merely an observation. You may not have > > > noticed that your mailer was misbehaving; now you _do_ know, and if you > > > care about RFC compliance you might want to fix it. You're not _obliged_ > > > to fix it, of course. I just thought you'd like to know. > > > > Well there you are: my mailer is definitely NOT missbehaving. > > Please do not repeat similar accusations when not knowing the reason. > > Attacking people who suggest to you they *may* have noticed an anomaly is > not polite at all, childish at best, and counter-productive in any case. Well, then please write this to the person who did attack me for no reason! What he did is typical trollish behavior, as he tried to turn a technical based discussion into a flame war for no reason. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [OT] Re: Linux Kernel include files
Willy Tarreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jörg, On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 12:39:57PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 12:27 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, your mailer seems to be sometimes omitting In-Reply-To: and References: headers, which RFC2822 says you SHOULD include in replies. Sending such accusation without knowing the reason is not polite. It's not an accusation -- it's merely an observation. You may not have noticed that your mailer was misbehaving; now you _do_ know, and if you care about RFC compliance you might want to fix it. You're not _obliged_ to fix it, of course. I just thought you'd like to know. Well there you are: my mailer is definitely NOT missbehaving. Please do not repeat similar accusations when not knowing the reason. Attacking people who suggest to you they *may* have noticed an anomaly is not polite at all, childish at best, and counter-productive in any case. Well, then please write this to the person who did attack me for no reason! What he did is typical trollish behavior, as he tried to turn a technical based discussion into a flame war for no reason. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [OT] Re: Linux Kernel include files
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 02:02:16PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Willy Tarreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jörg, On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 12:39:57PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 12:27 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, your mailer seems to be sometimes omitting In-Reply-To: and References: headers, which RFC2822 says you SHOULD include in replies. Sending such accusation without knowing the reason is not polite. It's not an accusation -- it's merely an observation. You may not have noticed that your mailer was misbehaving; now you _do_ know, and if you care about RFC compliance you might want to fix it. You're not _obliged_ to fix it, of course. I just thought you'd like to know. Well there you are: my mailer is definitely NOT missbehaving. Please do not repeat similar accusations when not knowing the reason. Attacking people who suggest to you they *may* have noticed an anomaly is not polite at all, childish at best, and counter-productive in any case. Well, then please write this to the person who did attack me for no reason! I illustrated what looked like to be his reason and it was valid here too, and you even removed the proofs on purpose of not commenting. What he did is typical trollish behavior, as he tried to turn a technical based discussion into a flame war for no reason. Oh yes, of course... Any advice to make mail communication better for everyone on a mailing list surely is trolling and trying to bring anything into a flame war... I am always amused by the contents of your rants. I've never known if you sometimes believe what you say, but it's not my problem anyway. Maybe having the last word by boring people make you feel like you're right. But if you cannot openly communicate with people on mailing lists, please first do not open discussions on subjects which are known to derivate into flame wars. This month has been particularly loaded with non-productive contents already. Jörg [advertisements removed] Willy - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [OT] Re: Linux Kernel include files
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) writes: Willy Tarreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jörg, On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 12:39:57PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 12:27 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, your mailer seems to be sometimes omitting In-Reply-To: and References: headers, which RFC2822 says you SHOULD include in replies. Sending such accusation without knowing the reason is not polite. It's not an accusation -- it's merely an observation. You may not have noticed that your mailer was misbehaving; now you _do_ know, and if you care about RFC compliance you might want to fix it. You're not _obliged_ to fix it, of course. I just thought you'd like to know. Well there you are: my mailer is definitely NOT missbehaving. Please do not repeat similar accusations when not knowing the reason. Attacking people who suggest to you they *may* have noticed an anomaly is not polite at all, childish at best, and counter-productive in any case. Well, then please write this to the person who did attack me for no reason! What he did is typical trollish behavior, as he tried to turn a technical based discussion into a flame war for no reason. Ah, it's nice to see Jörg back to his usual self. For a while there the headers discussion was looking almost reasonable. BTW Jörg, thanks for the absolutely fantastic real-life flame war you gave us at LinuxTag (by the Google booth, remember). I haven't had so much fun in a long time. Quite a few bystanders seemed rather entertained too. -- Måns Rullgård [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [OT] Re: Linux Kernel include files
On Saturday 30 June 2007 08:02:16 Joerg Schilling wrote: Willy Tarreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jörg, On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 12:39:57PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 12:27 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, your mailer seems to be sometimes omitting In-Reply-To: and References: headers, which RFC2822 says you SHOULD include in replies. Sending such accusation without knowing the reason is not polite. It's not an accusation -- it's merely an observation. You may not have noticed that your mailer was misbehaving; now you _do_ know, and if you care about RFC compliance you might want to fix it. You're not _obliged_ to fix it, of course. I just thought you'd like to know. Well there you are: my mailer is definitely NOT missbehaving. Please do not repeat similar accusations when not knowing the reason. Attacking people who suggest to you they *may* have noticed an anomaly is not polite at all, childish at best, and counter-productive in any case. Well, then please write this to the person who did attack me for no reason! What he did is typical trollish behavior, as he tried to turn a technical based discussion into a flame war for no reason. Jörg Jörg - I see no attack. What I do see is a quite friendly notification that your mail program appears to be omitting those headers in certain mails and that such action is in violation of a published standard. Your response was inflammatory, rude and very trollish. And when the person calmly restated himself and the reason he made the original comment you again responded in an extremely unpleasant manner. When notified that your behavior was incorrect you pointed fingers and yelled He started it! - something that *CHILDREN* do. Since it appears that you act like a child its time to add you to my killfile again. DRH -- Dialup is like pissing through a pipette. Slow and excruciatingly painful. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
