Re: [PATCH] HID: i2c-hid: Disable runtime PM on Goodix touchpad
> On Jan 17, 2019, at 20:35, Benjamin Tissoires > wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 12:41 PM Kai-Heng Feng > wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Jan 17, 2019, at 16:06, Benjamin Tissoires >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 6:02 AM Kai-Heng Feng >>> wrote: >> [snipped] Goodix says the firmware needs at least 60ms to fully respond ON and SLEEP command. >>> >>> I was about to say that this is not conformant to the specification. >>> But looking at 7.2.8 SET_POWER of >>> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/hardware/design/dn642101(v=vs.85) >>> >>> They say: >>> "The DEVICE must ensure that it transitions to the HOST specified >>> Power State in under 1 second. " >>> But in the RESPONSE paragraph: "The DEVICE shall not respond back >>> after receiving the command. The DEVICE is mandated to enter that >>> power state imminently." >>> >>> My interpretation was always that the device has to be in a ready >>> state for new commands "immediately". >>> However, the first sentence may suggest that the driver would block >>> any command to the device before the 1 second timestamp. >>> I’ll see if an 200ms autosuspend can solve all Goodix, LG and Raydium touchpanels. >>> >>> We already have a I2C_HID_QUIRK_DELAY_AFTER_SLEEP quirk that delay >>> operations after sleep by 20ms. Maybe we can keep the runtime PM but >>> use the same timers to not confuse the hardware. >> >> Yes, but wouldn’t use pm_*_autosuspend() helpers can both solve the issue >> and make the code more cleaner? > > You are probably correct :) > > I am not too familiar with the details of the runtime PM API, but if > you can make this a barrier to prevent the host to call too many > suspends/resumes in a row, that would be nice. > And we might be able to ditch I2C_HID_QUIRK_DELAY_AFTER_SLEEP and > I2C_HID_QUIRK_NO_RUNTIME_PM. Ok, using autosuspend helpers doesn’t really solve the issue. Although it can cover the case like fast ON/SLEEP triggered by quick transition of display manager -> desktop session, but once it gets runtime suspended, we can never sure when it’ll get runtime resumed again. So a mleep() between each powering commands is still needed. So I think we should stick to I2C_HID_QUIRK_NO_RUNTIME_PM for now. Kai-Heng > > Adding the involved people in the thread. > > Cheers, > Benjamin
Re: [PATCH] HID: i2c-hid: Disable runtime PM on Goodix touchpad
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 12:41 PM Kai-Heng Feng wrote: > > > > > On Jan 17, 2019, at 16:06, Benjamin Tissoires > > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 6:02 AM Kai-Heng Feng > > wrote: > [snipped] > >> Goodix says the firmware needs at least 60ms to fully respond ON and > >> SLEEP command. > > > > I was about to say that this is not conformant to the specification. > > But looking at 7.2.8 SET_POWER of > > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/hardware/design/dn642101(v=vs.85) > > > > They say: > > "The DEVICE must ensure that it transitions to the HOST specified > > Power State in under 1 second. " > > But in the RESPONSE paragraph: "The DEVICE shall not respond back > > after receiving the command. The DEVICE is mandated to enter that > > power state imminently." > > > > My interpretation was always that the device has to be in a ready > > state for new commands "immediately". > > However, the first sentence may suggest that the driver would block > > any command to the device before the 1 second timestamp. > > > >> > >> I’ll see if an 200ms autosuspend can solve all Goodix, LG and Raydium > >> touchpanels. > > > > We already have a I2C_HID_QUIRK_DELAY_AFTER_SLEEP quirk that delay > > operations after sleep by 20ms. Maybe we can keep the runtime PM but > > use the same timers to not confuse the hardware. > > Yes, but wouldn’t use pm_*_autosuspend() helpers can both solve the issue > and make the code more cleaner? You are probably correct :) I am not too familiar with the details of the runtime PM API, but if you can make this a barrier to prevent the host to call too many suspends/resumes in a row, that would be nice. And we might be able to ditch I2C_HID_QUIRK_DELAY_AFTER_SLEEP and I2C_HID_QUIRK_NO_RUNTIME_PM. Adding the involved people in the thread. Cheers, Benjamin
Re: [PATCH] HID: i2c-hid: Disable runtime PM on Goodix touchpad
> On Jan 17, 2019, at 16:06, Benjamin Tissoires > wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 6:02 AM Kai-Heng Feng > wrote: [snipped] >> Goodix says the firmware needs at least 60ms to fully respond ON and >> SLEEP command. > > I was about to say that this is not conformant to the specification. > But looking at 7.2.8 SET_POWER of > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/hardware/design/dn642101(v=vs.85) > > They say: > "The DEVICE must ensure that it transitions to the HOST specified > Power State in under 1 second. " > But in the RESPONSE paragraph: "The DEVICE shall not respond back > after receiving the command. The DEVICE is mandated to enter that > power state imminently." > > My interpretation was always that the device has to be in a ready > state for new commands "immediately". > However, the first sentence may suggest that the driver would block > any command to the device before the 1 second timestamp. > >> >> I’ll see if an 200ms autosuspend can solve all Goodix, LG and Raydium >> touchpanels. > > We already have a I2C_HID_QUIRK_DELAY_AFTER_SLEEP quirk that delay > operations after sleep by 20ms. Maybe we can keep the runtime PM but > use the same timers to not confuse the hardware. Yes, but wouldn’t use pm_*_autosuspend() helpers can both solve the issue and make the code more cleaner? Kai-Heng > > Cheers, > Benjamin
Re: [PATCH] HID: i2c-hid: Disable runtime PM on Goodix touchpad
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 6:02 AM Kai-Heng Feng wrote: > > > > > On Jan 16, 2019, at 16:21, Kai Heng Feng > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> On Jan 14, 2019, at 19:18, Jiri Kosina wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019, Kai-Heng Feng wrote: > >> > >>> A Goodix touchpad doesn't work. Touching the touchpad can trigger IRQ > >>> but there's no input event from HID subsystem. > >>> > >>> Turns out it reports some invalid data: > >>> [ 22.136630] i2c_hid i2c-DELL091F:00: input: 0b 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 > >>> 00 00 > >>> > >>> After some trial and error, it's another device that doesn't work well > >>> with ON/SLEEP commands. Disable runtime PM to fix the issue. > >> > >> Thanks, I've now applied the patch to for-5.0/upstream-fixes. I am > >> wondering though we are we seeing these at all - do other OSes not do the > >> runtime PM on i2c at all? > > > > According to the vendor, Windows does use ON/SLEEP, but infrequently. > > > > We can use pm_runtime_use_autosuspend() to reduce the frequency of > > ON/SLEEP commands, but it’s just papering over the touchpad firmware > > bug. > > Goodix says the firmware needs at least 60ms to fully respond ON and > SLEEP command. I was about to say that this is not conformant to the specification. But looking at 7.2.8 SET_POWER of https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/hardware/design/dn642101(v=vs.85) They say: "The DEVICE must ensure that it transitions to the HOST specified Power State in under 1 second. " But in the RESPONSE paragraph: "The DEVICE shall not respond back after receiving the command. The DEVICE is mandated to enter that power state imminently." My interpretation was always that the device has to be in a ready state for new commands "immediately". However, the first sentence may suggest that the driver would block any command to the device before the 1 second timestamp. > > I’ll see if an 200ms autosuspend can solve all Goodix, LG and Raydium > touchpanels. We already have a I2C_HID_QUIRK_DELAY_AFTER_SLEEP quirk that delay operations after sleep by 20ms. Maybe we can keep the runtime PM but use the same timers to not confuse the hardware. Cheers, Benjamin
Re: [PATCH] HID: i2c-hid: Disable runtime PM on Goodix touchpad
> On Jan 16, 2019, at 16:21, Kai Heng Feng wrote: > > > >> On Jan 14, 2019, at 19:18, Jiri Kosina wrote: >> >> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019, Kai-Heng Feng wrote: >> >>> A Goodix touchpad doesn't work. Touching the touchpad can trigger IRQ >>> but there's no input event from HID subsystem. >>> >>> Turns out it reports some invalid data: >>> [ 22.136630] i2c_hid i2c-DELL091F:00: input: 0b 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 >>> 00 00 >>> >>> After some trial and error, it's another device that doesn't work well >>> with ON/SLEEP commands. Disable runtime PM to fix the issue. >> >> Thanks, I've now applied the patch to for-5.0/upstream-fixes. I am >> wondering though we are we seeing these at all - do other OSes not do the >> runtime PM on i2c at all? > > According to the vendor, Windows does use ON/SLEEP, but infrequently. > > We can use pm_runtime_use_autosuspend() to reduce the frequency of > ON/SLEEP commands, but it’s just papering over the touchpad firmware > bug. Goodix says the firmware needs at least 60ms to fully respond ON and SLEEP command. I’ll see if an 200ms autosuspend can solve all Goodix, LG and Raydium touchpanels. Kai-Heng > > Kai-Heng > >> >> -- >> Jiri Kosina >> SUSE Labs
Re: [PATCH] HID: i2c-hid: Disable runtime PM on Goodix touchpad
> On Jan 14, 2019, at 19:18, Jiri Kosina wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019, Kai-Heng Feng wrote: > >> A Goodix touchpad doesn't work. Touching the touchpad can trigger IRQ >> but there's no input event from HID subsystem. >> >> Turns out it reports some invalid data: >> [ 22.136630] i2c_hid i2c-DELL091F:00: input: 0b 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 >> 00 >> >> After some trial and error, it's another device that doesn't work well >> with ON/SLEEP commands. Disable runtime PM to fix the issue. > > Thanks, I've now applied the patch to for-5.0/upstream-fixes. I am > wondering though we are we seeing these at all - do other OSes not do the > runtime PM on i2c at all? According to the vendor, Windows does use ON/SLEEP, but infrequently. We can use pm_runtime_use_autosuspend() to reduce the frequency of ON/SLEEP commands, but it’s just papering over the touchpad firmware bug. Kai-Heng > > -- > Jiri Kosina > SUSE Labs >
Re: [PATCH] HID: i2c-hid: Disable runtime PM on Goodix touchpad
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019, Kai-Heng Feng wrote: > A Goodix touchpad doesn't work. Touching the touchpad can trigger IRQ > but there's no input event from HID subsystem. > > Turns out it reports some invalid data: > [ 22.136630] i2c_hid i2c-DELL091F:00: input: 0b 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > 00 > > After some trial and error, it's another device that doesn't work well > with ON/SLEEP commands. Disable runtime PM to fix the issue. Thanks, I've now applied the patch to for-5.0/upstream-fixes. I am wondering though we are we seeing these at all - do other OSes not do the runtime PM on i2c at all? -- Jiri Kosina SUSE Labs