Re: [Hdaps-devel] RE: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 11:45:38AM -0700, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > If IBM would provide a CD image (bootable ISO) containing FW for all > supported drives - that would be great. No need for the "other OS" any > more. I can imagine IBM doesn't do that because in that way you can't update the firmware of the CD/DVD drive. Bootable FreeDOS floppy images would be a nice idea, though. Erik (not a ThinkPad owner) -- +-- Erik Mouw -- www.harddisk-recovery.com -- +31 70 370 12 90 -- | Lab address: Delftechpark 26, 2628 XH, Delft, The Netherlands - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [Hdaps-devel] RE: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
--- Erik Mouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 11:45:38AM -0700, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > > If IBM would provide a CD image (bootable ISO) containing FW for > all > > supported drives - that would be great. No need for the "other OS" > any > > more. > > I can imagine IBM doesn't do that because in that way you can't > update > the firmware of the CD/DVD drive. Bootable FreeDOS floppy images > would > be a nice idea, though. > > now, this is getting off-topic. The CD image I proposed would be only for the hard disks. Bootable -Dos floppy images that one could just "dd" of the floppy would be great, because they eliminate the need for "the other OS", but you still need a floppy drive. I am not sure how many Notebook owners actually have one. The hardest part in my FW upgrade was actually finding a drive in our company. Martin -- Martin Knoblauch email: k n o b i AT knobisoft DOT de www: http://www.knobisoft.de - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [Hdaps-devel] RE: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
--- Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have the feeling that this will work for many T4[012]p? users: > > http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=TPAD-HDFIRM > Actually, I think your feeling is wrong. Looking at the readme.txt it seems version 7.1 of the upgrade floppy has the "BA" firmware that I had on my disk in the beginning (not parking the heads). Cheers Martin -- Martin Knoblauch email: k n o b i AT knobisoft DOT de www: http://www.knobisoft.de - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [Hdaps-devel] RE: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
You can take the .exe file and turn this into a bootable CD (using a RW CD) I forgot how I did it, but if I remember correctly, I took a floppy dos image and made that into the boot 'stub' and threw the exe into the CD (a la El-Torito). I flashed the disk firmware once since I got the laptop. Shawn. On July 7, 2005 14:51, Erik Mouw wrote: > On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 11:45:38AM -0700, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > > If IBM would provide a CD image (bootable ISO) containing FW for all > > supported drives - that would be great. No need for the "other OS" any > > more. > > I can imagine IBM doesn't do that because in that way you can't update > the firmware of the CD/DVD drive. Bootable FreeDOS floppy images would > be a nice idea, though. > > > Erik (not a ThinkPad owner) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [Hdaps-devel] RE: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
--- Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 10:14 -0700, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > > Basically I saw that the only difference between me and Pekka was > the > > FW (discounting the different CPU speed and Kernel version). I > googled > > around and found the IBM FW page at: > > > > > http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=ibm=MIGR-41008 > > > > Download is simple, just don't use the "IBM Download Manager". > Main > > problem is that one needs a bootable floopy drive and "the other > OS" to > > create a bootable floppy. It would be great if IBM could provide > floppy > > images for use with "dd" for the poor Linux users. > > Did you really need to make 18 diskettes? > yikes - no !! :-) Somewhere on that page there is a table that tells you which of the 18 floppies is for your disk. In my case it was #13. > I have the feeling that this will work for many T4[012]p? users: > > http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=TPAD-HDFIRM > Yeah, I think that is the "DA" version. You still need "the other OS", although you don't need the floppy. If IBM would provide a CD image (bootable ISO) containing FW for all supported drives - that would be great. No need for the "other OS" any more. Cheers Martin -- Martin Knoblauch email: k n o b i AT knobisoft DOT de www: http://www.knobisoft.de - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [Hdaps-devel] RE: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 10:14 -0700, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > Basically I saw that the only difference between me and Pekka was the > FW (discounting the different CPU speed and Kernel version). I googled > around and found the IBM FW page at: > > http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=ibm=MIGR-41008 > > Download is simple, just don't use the "IBM Download Manager". Main > problem is that one needs a bootable floopy drive and "the other OS" to > create a bootable floppy. It would be great if IBM could provide floppy > images for use with "dd" for the poor Linux users. Did you really need to make 18 diskettes? I have the feeling that this will work for many T4[012]p? users: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=TPAD-HDFIRM -- Dave - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
RE: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
--- Alejandro Bonilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Pekka Enberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On 7/7/05, Martin Knoblauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Interesting. Same Notebook, same drive. The program say "not > > > parked" > > > > :-( This is on FC2 with a pretty much vanilla 2.6.9 kernel. > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# hdparm -i /dev/hda > > > > > > > > /dev/hda: > > > > > > > > Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6BA, SerialNo=MRH403M4GS88XB > > > > > > haji ~ # hdparm -i /dev/hda > > > > > > /dev/hda: > > > > > > Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6DA, SerialNo=MRH453M4H2A6PB > > > > OK, different FW levels. After upgrading my disk to MH40A6GA my > head > > parks :-) Minimum required level for this disk seems to be A6DA. > Hope > > this info is useful. > > Martin, > > Simply upgrading your firmware fixed your problem for being to park > the > head? > Yup. Do not forget that FW is very powerful. Likely the parking feature was added after A6BA. Basically I saw that the only difference between me and Pekka was the FW (discounting the different CPU speed and Kernel version). I googled around and found the IBM FW page at: http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=ibm=MIGR-41008 Download is simple, just don't use the "IBM Download Manager". Main problem is that one needs a bootable floopy drive and "the other OS" to create a bootable floppy. It would be great if IBM could provide floppy images for use with "dd" for the poor Linux users. Then I pondered over the risk involved with the update. Curiosity won :-) And now the head parks. BUT - I definitely do not encourage anybody to perform the procedure. Do at your own risk after thinking about the possible consequences ... Anyway someone reported a non working HTS548040M9AT00 with FW revision MG2OA53A. The newest revision, from the same floppy image, is A5HA. Cheers Martin -- Martin Knoblauch email: k n o b i AT knobisoft DOT de www: http://www.knobisoft.de - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
RE: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
> --- Pekka Enberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 7/7/05, Martin Knoblauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Interesting. Same Notebook, same drive. The program say "not > > parked" > > > :-( This is on FC2 with a pretty much vanilla 2.6.9 kernel. > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# hdparm -i /dev/hda > > > > > > /dev/hda: > > > > > > Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6BA, SerialNo=MRH403M4GS88XB > > > > haji ~ # hdparm -i /dev/hda > > > > /dev/hda: > > > > Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6DA, SerialNo=MRH453M4H2A6PB > > OK, different FW levels. After upgrading my disk to MH40A6GA my head > parks :-) Minimum required level for this disk seems to be A6DA. Hope > this info is useful. Martin, Simply upgrading your firmware fixed your problem for being to park the head? .Alejandro - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
--- Pekka Enberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/7/05, Martin Knoblauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Interesting. Same Notebook, same drive. The program say "not
> parked"
> > :-( This is on FC2 with a pretty much vanilla 2.6.9 kernel.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# hdparm -i /dev/hda
> >
> > /dev/hda:
> >
> > Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6BA, SerialNo=MRH403M4GS88XB
>
> haji ~ # hdparm -i /dev/hda
>
> /dev/hda:
>
> Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6DA, SerialNo=MRH453M4H2A6PB
OK, different FW levels. After upgrading my disk to MH40A6GA my head
parks :-) Minimum required level for this disk seems to be A6DA. Hope
this info is useful.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6GA, SerialNo=MRH403M4GS88XB
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=7877kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=117210240
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
AdvancedPM=yes: mode=0x80 (128) WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a:
* signifies the current active mode
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# ./park /dev/hda
head parked
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]#
Cheers
Martin
--
Martin Knoblauch
email: k n o b i AT knobisoft DOT de
www: http://www.knobisoft.de
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [Hdaps-devel] Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
Model: HTS548080M9AT00 (Hitachi) Laptop: T42. segfault:/home/spstarr# ./a /dev/hda head parked Seems to park, heard it click :) Shawn. On July 7, 2005 04:48, Jens Axboe wrote: > On Thu, Jul 07 2005, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi, > > > > Jens Axboe wrote: > > > ATA7 defines a park maneuvre, I don't know how well supported it is > > > yet though. You can test with this little app, if it says 'head > > > parked' it works. If not, it has just idled the drive. > > > > Great! Thanks for digging this up - it works on my T42, using a Fujitsu > > MHT2080AH drive: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/work/ibm_hdaps> sudo ./headpark /dev/hda > > head parked > > > > Judging from the sound the drive makes, this is the same operation that > > the windows tool performs. > > Very cool, I wasn't sure if this was a 'new' feature waiting to be > implemented in drives or if ata7 just documented existing use in some > drives. > > How long did the park take? Spec states it can take up to 500ms. > > > However, the head does not remain parked for a very long time, > > especially if there is a lot of disk activity going on (I tested it by > > running a "find /" in parallel). The head parks, but leaves the park > > position immediately afterwards again. I guess now we need to find a way > > to "nail" the head into the parking position for some time - otherwise > > it may already be on its way back to the platter before the laptop hits > > the ground... > > The head just remains parked until the next command is issued. This > needs to be combined with some ide help, to freeze the queue. Perhaps > some sysfs file so you could do > > # echo park > /sys/block/hda/device/head_state > > Or whatever, at least just exposing this possibility so that the drive > internally can block future io until a 'resume' command is issued. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
# ./park /dev/hda
head not parked 4c
# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=HTS548040M9AT00, FwRev=MG2OA53A, SerialNo=MRL252L2JU2JYB
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=7877kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off
CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=78140160
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
AdvancedPM=yes: mode=0x80 (128) WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a:
* signifies the current active mode
Dan
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
--- Pekka Enberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Martin, don't trim the cc! > sorry about that, but I did not have the CC at time of reply. I read LKLM from the archives and respond by cut and paste. Martin -- Martin Knoblauch email: k n o b i AT knobisoft DOT de www: http://www.knobisoft.de - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
On 7/7/05, Martin Knoblauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Interesting. Same Notebook, same drive. The program say "not parked"
> :-( This is on FC2 with a pretty much vanilla 2.6.9 kernel.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# uname -a
> Linux l15833 2.6.9-noagp #1 Wed May 4 16:09:14 CEST 2005 i686 i686 i386
> GNU/Linux
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# hdparm -i /dev/hda
>
> /dev/hda:
>
> Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6BA, SerialNo=MRH403M4GS88XB
> Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>10Mbs }
> RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
> BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=7877kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
> CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=117210240
> IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
> PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
> DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
> UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
> AdvancedPM=yes: mode=0x80 (128) WriteCache=enabled
> Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a:
>
> * signifies the current active mode
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# ./park /dev/hda
> head not parked 4c
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]#
Martin, don't trim the cc!
haji ~ # uname -a
Linux haji 2.6.12 #12 Mon Jun 20 09:39:37 EEST 2005 i686 Intel(R)
Pentium(R) M processor 2.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
haji ~ # hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6DA, SerialNo=MRH453M4H2A6PB
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=7877kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=117210240
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
AdvancedPM=yes: mode=0x80 (128) WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a:
* signifies the current active mode
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
On Thu, Jul 07 2005, Pekka Enberg wrote: > Jens Axboe wrote: > > > ATA7 defines a park maneuvre, I don't know how well supported it is > > > yet though. You can test with this little app, if it says 'head > > > parked' it works. If not, it has just idled the drive. > > On 7/7/05, Lenz Grimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Great! Thanks for digging this up - it works on my T42, using a Fujitsu > > MHT2080AH drive: > > Works on my T42p which uses a Hitachi HTS726060M9AT00 drive. I don't > hear any sound, though. Did it say 'head parked'? If the drive is idle, you wont hear anything. Laptop drives auto-park really quickly themselves. A time ./park /dev/hda should tell you whether it needed to park or not, if it executes faster than a few hundred ms it was already parked. -- Jens Axboe - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [Hdaps-devel] Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Jens Axboe wrote: > Very cool, I wasn't sure if this was a 'new' feature waiting to be > implemented in drives or if ata7 just documented existing use in some > drives. > > How long did the park take? Spec states it can take up to 500ms. Hard to measure (I don't have the C skills to add timing to your sample snippet...), but almost instantly after issuing the command. "time" states the command takes around 0.733 seconds in total (until the command returns), the head park happens almost instantly after the program started, probably after ~300ms). > The head just remains parked until the next command is issued. Right, which usually happens right away on a busy system, especially when it's using swap (think KDE desktops :) ) > This needs to be combined with some ide help, to freeze the queue. > Perhaps some sysfs file so you could do > > # echo park > /sys/block/hda/device/head_state > > Or whatever, at least just exposing this possibility so that the > drive internally can block future io until a 'resume' command is > issued. Or for a given timeout, whatever happens first. Sounds good to me! So would this feature require modifications to the IDE layer? Bye, LenZ - -- - -- Lenz Grimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -o) [ICQ: 160767607 | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/\\ http://www.lenzg.org/ V_V -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCzQE+SVDhKrJykfIRAtN9AJ9207U5cJIw1i5a0t+PsrkbbkW6/ACfZk0M D0l/YVWoiq+Jo0zw+mqFV9g= =Eda0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
Jens Axboe wrote: > > ATA7 defines a park maneuvre, I don't know how well supported it is > > yet though. You can test with this little app, if it says 'head > > parked' it works. If not, it has just idled the drive. On 7/7/05, Lenz Grimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great! Thanks for digging this up - it works on my T42, using a Fujitsu > MHT2080AH drive: Works on my T42p which uses a Hitachi HTS726060M9AT00 drive. I don't hear any sound, though. Pekka - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
On Thu, Jul 07 2005, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > Jens Axboe wrote: > > > ATA7 defines a park maneuvre, I don't know how well supported it is > > yet though. You can test with this little app, if it says 'head > > parked' it works. If not, it has just idled the drive. > > Great! Thanks for digging this up - it works on my T42, using a Fujitsu > MHT2080AH drive: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/work/ibm_hdaps> sudo ./headpark /dev/hda > head parked > > Judging from the sound the drive makes, this is the same operation that > the windows tool performs. Very cool, I wasn't sure if this was a 'new' feature waiting to be implemented in drives or if ata7 just documented existing use in some drives. How long did the park take? Spec states it can take up to 500ms. > However, the head does not remain parked for a very long time, > especially if there is a lot of disk activity going on (I tested it by > running a "find /" in parallel). The head parks, but leaves the park > position immediately afterwards again. I guess now we need to find a way > to "nail" the head into the parking position for some time - otherwise > it may already be on its way back to the platter before the laptop hits > the ground... The head just remains parked until the next command is issued. This needs to be combined with some ide help, to freeze the queue. Perhaps some sysfs file so you could do # echo park > /sys/block/hda/device/head_state Or whatever, at least just exposing this possibility so that the drive internally can block future io until a 'resume' command is issued. -- Jens Axboe - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Jens Axboe wrote: > ATA7 defines a park maneuvre, I don't know how well supported it is > yet though. You can test with this little app, if it says 'head > parked' it works. If not, it has just idled the drive. Great! Thanks for digging this up - it works on my T42, using a Fujitsu MHT2080AH drive: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/work/ibm_hdaps> sudo ./headpark /dev/hda head parked Judging from the sound the drive makes, this is the same operation that the windows tool performs. However, the head does not remain parked for a very long time, especially if there is a lot of disk activity going on (I tested it by running a "find /" in parallel). The head parks, but leaves the park position immediately afterwards again. I guess now we need to find a way to "nail" the head into the parking position for some time - otherwise it may already be on its way back to the platter before the laptop hits the ground... Thanks again - this is another helpful bit in getting all the pieces together. Bye, LenZ - -- - -- Lenz Grimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -o) [ICQ: 160767607 | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/\\ http://www.lenzg.org/ V_V -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCzOqlSVDhKrJykfIRAlm0AJ9WvadtsxAdLdTCe40N/KDbvSLf5wCdEWWA OsiXzwFjziNuKvK5HKSMjb4= =qXXH -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Jens Axboe wrote: ATA7 defines a park maneuvre, I don't know how well supported it is yet though. You can test with this little app, if it says 'head parked' it works. If not, it has just idled the drive. Great! Thanks for digging this up - it works on my T42, using a Fujitsu MHT2080AH drive: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/work/ibm_hdaps sudo ./headpark /dev/hda head parked Judging from the sound the drive makes, this is the same operation that the windows tool performs. However, the head does not remain parked for a very long time, especially if there is a lot of disk activity going on (I tested it by running a find / in parallel). The head parks, but leaves the park position immediately afterwards again. I guess now we need to find a way to nail the head into the parking position for some time - otherwise it may already be on its way back to the platter before the laptop hits the ground... Thanks again - this is another helpful bit in getting all the pieces together. Bye, LenZ - -- - -- Lenz Grimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -o) [ICQ: 160767607 | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/\\ http://www.lenzg.org/ V_V -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCzOqlSVDhKrJykfIRAlm0AJ9WvadtsxAdLdTCe40N/KDbvSLf5wCdEWWA OsiXzwFjziNuKvK5HKSMjb4= =qXXH -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
On Thu, Jul 07 2005, Lenz Grimmer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Jens Axboe wrote: ATA7 defines a park maneuvre, I don't know how well supported it is yet though. You can test with this little app, if it says 'head parked' it works. If not, it has just idled the drive. Great! Thanks for digging this up - it works on my T42, using a Fujitsu MHT2080AH drive: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/work/ibm_hdaps sudo ./headpark /dev/hda head parked Judging from the sound the drive makes, this is the same operation that the windows tool performs. Very cool, I wasn't sure if this was a 'new' feature waiting to be implemented in drives or if ata7 just documented existing use in some drives. How long did the park take? Spec states it can take up to 500ms. However, the head does not remain parked for a very long time, especially if there is a lot of disk activity going on (I tested it by running a find / in parallel). The head parks, but leaves the park position immediately afterwards again. I guess now we need to find a way to nail the head into the parking position for some time - otherwise it may already be on its way back to the platter before the laptop hits the ground... The head just remains parked until the next command is issued. This needs to be combined with some ide help, to freeze the queue. Perhaps some sysfs file so you could do # echo park /sys/block/hda/device/head_state Or whatever, at least just exposing this possibility so that the drive internally can block future io until a 'resume' command is issued. -- Jens Axboe - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
Jens Axboe wrote: ATA7 defines a park maneuvre, I don't know how well supported it is yet though. You can test with this little app, if it says 'head parked' it works. If not, it has just idled the drive. On 7/7/05, Lenz Grimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great! Thanks for digging this up - it works on my T42, using a Fujitsu MHT2080AH drive: Works on my T42p which uses a Hitachi HTS726060M9AT00 drive. I don't hear any sound, though. Pekka - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [Hdaps-devel] Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Jens Axboe wrote: Very cool, I wasn't sure if this was a 'new' feature waiting to be implemented in drives or if ata7 just documented existing use in some drives. How long did the park take? Spec states it can take up to 500ms. Hard to measure (I don't have the C skills to add timing to your sample snippet...), but almost instantly after issuing the command. time states the command takes around 0.733 seconds in total (until the command returns), the head park happens almost instantly after the program started, probably after ~300ms). The head just remains parked until the next command is issued. Right, which usually happens right away on a busy system, especially when it's using swap (think KDE desktops :) ) This needs to be combined with some ide help, to freeze the queue. Perhaps some sysfs file so you could do # echo park /sys/block/hda/device/head_state Or whatever, at least just exposing this possibility so that the drive internally can block future io until a 'resume' command is issued. Or for a given timeout, whatever happens first. Sounds good to me! So would this feature require modifications to the IDE layer? Bye, LenZ - -- - -- Lenz Grimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -o) [ICQ: 160767607 | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/\\ http://www.lenzg.org/ V_V -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCzQE+SVDhKrJykfIRAtN9AJ9207U5cJIw1i5a0t+PsrkbbkW6/ACfZk0M D0l/YVWoiq+Jo0zw+mqFV9g= =Eda0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
On Thu, Jul 07 2005, Pekka Enberg wrote: Jens Axboe wrote: ATA7 defines a park maneuvre, I don't know how well supported it is yet though. You can test with this little app, if it says 'head parked' it works. If not, it has just idled the drive. On 7/7/05, Lenz Grimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great! Thanks for digging this up - it works on my T42, using a Fujitsu MHT2080AH drive: Works on my T42p which uses a Hitachi HTS726060M9AT00 drive. I don't hear any sound, though. Did it say 'head parked'? If the drive is idle, you wont hear anything. Laptop drives auto-park really quickly themselves. A time ./park /dev/hda should tell you whether it needed to park or not, if it executes faster than a few hundred ms it was already parked. -- Jens Axboe - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
On 7/7/05, Martin Knoblauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Interesting. Same Notebook, same drive. The program say not parked
:-( This is on FC2 with a pretty much vanilla 2.6.9 kernel.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# uname -a
Linux l15833 2.6.9-noagp #1 Wed May 4 16:09:14 CEST 2005 i686 i686 i386
GNU/Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6BA, SerialNo=MRH403M4GS88XB
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=7877kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=117210240
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
AdvancedPM=yes: mode=0x80 (128) WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a:
* signifies the current active mode
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# ./park /dev/hda
head not parked 4c
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]#
Martin, don't trim the cc!
haji ~ # uname -a
Linux haji 2.6.12 #12 Mon Jun 20 09:39:37 EEST 2005 i686 Intel(R)
Pentium(R) M processor 2.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
haji ~ # hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6DA, SerialNo=MRH453M4H2A6PB
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=7877kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=117210240
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
AdvancedPM=yes: mode=0x80 (128) WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a:
* signifies the current active mode
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in
the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
--- Pekka Enberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin, don't trim the cc! sorry about that, but I did not have the CC at time of reply. I read LKLM from the archives and respond by cut and paste. Martin -- Martin Knoblauch email: k n o b i AT knobisoft DOT de www: http://www.knobisoft.de - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
# ./park /dev/hda
head not parked 4c
# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=HTS548040M9AT00, FwRev=MG2OA53A, SerialNo=MRL252L2JU2JYB
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=7877kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off
CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=78140160
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
AdvancedPM=yes: mode=0x80 (128) WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a:
* signifies the current active mode
Dan
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in
the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [Hdaps-devel] Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
Model: HTS548080M9AT00 (Hitachi) Laptop: T42. segfault:/home/spstarr# ./a /dev/hda head parked Seems to park, heard it click :) Shawn. On July 7, 2005 04:48, Jens Axboe wrote: On Thu, Jul 07 2005, Lenz Grimmer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Jens Axboe wrote: ATA7 defines a park maneuvre, I don't know how well supported it is yet though. You can test with this little app, if it says 'head parked' it works. If not, it has just idled the drive. Great! Thanks for digging this up - it works on my T42, using a Fujitsu MHT2080AH drive: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/work/ibm_hdaps sudo ./headpark /dev/hda head parked Judging from the sound the drive makes, this is the same operation that the windows tool performs. Very cool, I wasn't sure if this was a 'new' feature waiting to be implemented in drives or if ata7 just documented existing use in some drives. How long did the park take? Spec states it can take up to 500ms. However, the head does not remain parked for a very long time, especially if there is a lot of disk activity going on (I tested it by running a find / in parallel). The head parks, but leaves the park position immediately afterwards again. I guess now we need to find a way to nail the head into the parking position for some time - otherwise it may already be on its way back to the platter before the laptop hits the ground... The head just remains parked until the next command is issued. This needs to be combined with some ide help, to freeze the queue. Perhaps some sysfs file so you could do # echo park /sys/block/hda/device/head_state Or whatever, at least just exposing this possibility so that the drive internally can block future io until a 'resume' command is issued. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
--- Pekka Enberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/7/05, Martin Knoblauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Interesting. Same Notebook, same drive. The program say not
parked
:-( This is on FC2 with a pretty much vanilla 2.6.9 kernel.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6BA, SerialNo=MRH403M4GS88XB
haji ~ # hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6DA, SerialNo=MRH453M4H2A6PB
OK, different FW levels. After upgrading my disk to MH40A6GA my head
parks :-) Minimum required level for this disk seems to be A6DA. Hope
this info is useful.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6GA, SerialNo=MRH403M4GS88XB
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=7877kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=117210240
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
AdvancedPM=yes: mode=0x80 (128) WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a:
* signifies the current active mode
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# ./park /dev/hda
head parked
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]#
Cheers
Martin
--
Martin Knoblauch
email: k n o b i AT knobisoft DOT de
www: http://www.knobisoft.de
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in
the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
RE: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
--- Pekka Enberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/7/05, Martin Knoblauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. Same Notebook, same drive. The program say not parked :-( This is on FC2 with a pretty much vanilla 2.6.9 kernel. [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# hdparm -i /dev/hda /dev/hda: Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6BA, SerialNo=MRH403M4GS88XB haji ~ # hdparm -i /dev/hda /dev/hda: Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6DA, SerialNo=MRH453M4H2A6PB OK, different FW levels. After upgrading my disk to MH40A6GA my head parks :-) Minimum required level for this disk seems to be A6DA. Hope this info is useful. Martin, Simply upgrading your firmware fixed your problem for being to park the head? .Alejandro - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
RE: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
--- Alejandro Bonilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Pekka Enberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/7/05, Martin Knoblauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. Same Notebook, same drive. The program say not parked :-( This is on FC2 with a pretty much vanilla 2.6.9 kernel. [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# hdparm -i /dev/hda /dev/hda: Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6BA, SerialNo=MRH403M4GS88XB haji ~ # hdparm -i /dev/hda /dev/hda: Model=HTS726060M9AT00, FwRev=MH4OA6DA, SerialNo=MRH453M4H2A6PB OK, different FW levels. After upgrading my disk to MH40A6GA my head parks :-) Minimum required level for this disk seems to be A6DA. Hope this info is useful. Martin, Simply upgrading your firmware fixed your problem for being to park the head? Yup. Do not forget that FW is very powerful. Likely the parking feature was added after A6BA. Basically I saw that the only difference between me and Pekka was the FW (discounting the different CPU speed and Kernel version). I googled around and found the IBM FW page at: http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=ibmlndocid=MIGR-41008 Download is simple, just don't use the IBM Download Manager. Main problem is that one needs a bootable floopy drive and the other OS to create a bootable floppy. It would be great if IBM could provide floppy images for use with dd for the poor Linux users. Then I pondered over the risk involved with the update. Curiosity won :-) And now the head parks. BUT - I definitely do not encourage anybody to perform the procedure. Do at your own risk after thinking about the possible consequences ... Anyway someone reported a non working HTS548040M9AT00 with FW revision MG2OA53A. The newest revision, from the same floppy image, is A5HA. Cheers Martin -- Martin Knoblauch email: k n o b i AT knobisoft DOT de www: http://www.knobisoft.de - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [Hdaps-devel] RE: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 10:14 -0700, Martin Knoblauch wrote: Basically I saw that the only difference between me and Pekka was the FW (discounting the different CPU speed and Kernel version). I googled around and found the IBM FW page at: http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=ibmlndocid=MIGR-41008 Download is simple, just don't use the IBM Download Manager. Main problem is that one needs a bootable floopy drive and the other OS to create a bootable floppy. It would be great if IBM could provide floppy images for use with dd for the poor Linux users. Did you really need to make 18 diskettes? I have the feeling that this will work for many T4[012]p? users: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=TPAD-HDFIRM -- Dave - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [Hdaps-devel] RE: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
--- Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 10:14 -0700, Martin Knoblauch wrote: Basically I saw that the only difference between me and Pekka was the FW (discounting the different CPU speed and Kernel version). I googled around and found the IBM FW page at: http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=ibmlndocid=MIGR-41008 Download is simple, just don't use the IBM Download Manager. Main problem is that one needs a bootable floopy drive and the other OS to create a bootable floppy. It would be great if IBM could provide floppy images for use with dd for the poor Linux users. Did you really need to make 18 diskettes? yikes - no !! :-) Somewhere on that page there is a table that tells you which of the 18 floppies is for your disk. In my case it was #13. I have the feeling that this will work for many T4[012]p? users: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=TPAD-HDFIRM Yeah, I think that is the DA version. You still need the other OS, although you don't need the floppy. If IBM would provide a CD image (bootable ISO) containing FW for all supported drives - that would be great. No need for the other OS any more. Cheers Martin -- Martin Knoblauch email: k n o b i AT knobisoft DOT de www: http://www.knobisoft.de - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [Hdaps-devel] RE: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
You can take the .exe file and turn this into a bootable CD (using a RW CD) I forgot how I did it, but if I remember correctly, I took a floppy dos image and made that into the boot 'stub' and threw the exe into the CD (a la El-Torito). I flashed the disk firmware once since I got the laptop. Shawn. On July 7, 2005 14:51, Erik Mouw wrote: On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 11:45:38AM -0700, Martin Knoblauch wrote: If IBM would provide a CD image (bootable ISO) containing FW for all supported drives - that would be great. No need for the other OS any more. I can imagine IBM doesn't do that because in that way you can't update the firmware of the CD/DVD drive. Bootable FreeDOS floppy images would be a nice idea, though. Erik (not a ThinkPad owner) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [Hdaps-devel] RE: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
--- Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the feeling that this will work for many T4[012]p? users: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=TPAD-HDFIRM Actually, I think your feeling is wrong. Looking at the readme.txt it seems version 7.1 of the upgrade floppy has the BA firmware that I had on my disk in the beginning (not parking the heads). Cheers Martin -- Martin Knoblauch email: k n o b i AT knobisoft DOT de www: http://www.knobisoft.de - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [Hdaps-devel] RE: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
--- Erik Mouw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 11:45:38AM -0700, Martin Knoblauch wrote: If IBM would provide a CD image (bootable ISO) containing FW for all supported drives - that would be great. No need for the other OS any more. I can imagine IBM doesn't do that because in that way you can't update the firmware of the CD/DVD drive. Bootable FreeDOS floppy images would be a nice idea, though. now, this is getting off-topic. The CD image I proposed would be only for the hard disks. Bootable -Dos floppy images that one could just dd of the floppy would be great, because they eliminate the need for the other OS, but you still need a floppy drive. I am not sure how many Notebook owners actually have one. The hardest part in my FW upgrade was actually finding a drive in our company. Martin -- Martin Knoblauch email: k n o b i AT knobisoft DOT de www: http://www.knobisoft.de - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [Hdaps-devel] RE: Head parking (was: IBM HDAPS things are looking up)
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 11:45:38AM -0700, Martin Knoblauch wrote: If IBM would provide a CD image (bootable ISO) containing FW for all supported drives - that would be great. No need for the other OS any more. I can imagine IBM doesn't do that because in that way you can't update the firmware of the CD/DVD drive. Bootable FreeDOS floppy images would be a nice idea, though. Erik (not a ThinkPad owner) -- +-- Erik Mouw -- www.harddisk-recovery.com -- +31 70 370 12 90 -- | Lab address: Delftechpark 26, 2628 XH, Delft, The Netherlands - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
