Re: Wireless support
On Aug 11, 2005, at 23:17:07, Lee Revell wrote: On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 12:59 +1000, roucaries bastien wrote: They post on this list 1 year and a half ago no answer. I guess everyone on LKML has day jobs now, no one has time for fun stuff like reverse engineering drivers anymore... :-( Much as I would love to help, I'm usually buried under schoolwork. In any case, I really have to admire the people behind the project, translating tens of thousands of MIPS assembly instructions to C, documenting the C, then giving the documentation to somebody else to write the driver even though by that point you could write it backwards in a blindfold, that has _got_ to be hard and frustrating work. Cheers, Kyle Moffett -- Somone asked me why I work on this free (http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/) software stuff and not get a real job. Charles Shultz had the best answer: "Why do musicians compose symphonies and poets write poems? They do it because life wouldn't have any meaning for them if they didn't. That's why I draw cartoons. It's my life." -- Charles Shultz - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 12:59 +1000, roucaries bastien wrote: > They post on this list 1 year and a half ago no answer. > I guess everyone on LKML has day jobs now, no one has time for fun stuff like reverse engineering drivers anymore... :-( Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On 8/12/05, Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 09:52 -0400, Kyle Moffett wrote: > > they are much less likely to participate in any kind of reverse > > engineering effort, even if it's just testing a new driver. > > I think anyone launching a reverse engineering effort should announce > the project to LKML! When I set out to add some multichannel > functionality to the emu10k1 ALSA drivers based on the kX project > Windows drivers, I announced the project to alsa-devel and alsa-user, > and got a number of volunteers who were most helpful in testing these > new features, and greatly sped up the effort. As a result we were able > to fix almost all the major bugs before I even submitted the patch. Now > these new features are merged as of ALSA 1.0.9. Problem: o They are translating the drivers (about 66% is done, dma and pio are close to be done) but in order to close claim for broadcom they don't create divers. This guys will release documentation. See chinese wall method on wikipedia. o They post on this list 1 year and a half ago no answer. > There is a very large group of people who can't write code but have the > hardware and are dying to get more out of it, or just to get it to work, > and would gladly help any Linux driver reverse engineering project, if > they just knew about it. o They need more programmer for reverse engeenering effort and different programmer for writing the drivers from the documentation. Actually 10% take about 3 months. For the courageous people, they don't reverse directelly from asm but from C. In fact as mips asm is pretty simple they can translate asm to C. Nethertheless, it s spagetty code and variable are referenced by pointer. Reverse engeenering is therefore: - transform goto in for loop or while loop - transform *(phy+1054) in : int error or something like this. o Testing perhaps in the end of year Moreover this drivers will support all kind of broadcom card as the drivers look like to be common > Lee > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > bastien - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 09:52 -0400, Kyle Moffett wrote: > they are much less likely to participate in any kind of reverse > engineering effort, even if it's just testing a new driver. I think anyone launching a reverse engineering effort should announce the project to LKML! When I set out to add some multichannel functionality to the emu10k1 ALSA drivers based on the kX project Windows drivers, I announced the project to alsa-devel and alsa-user, and got a number of volunteers who were most helpful in testing these new features, and greatly sped up the effort. As a result we were able to fix almost all the major bugs before I even submitted the patch. Now these new features are merged as of ALSA 1.0.9. There is a very large group of people who can't write code but have the hardware and are dying to get more out of it, or just to get it to work, and would gladly help any Linux driver reverse engineering project, if they just knew about it. Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: >On Tuesday, 9 of August 2005 15:52, Kyle Moffett wrote: > > >>On Aug 9, 2005, at 05:09:55, Jochen Friedrich wrote: >> >> >>>Third, both ndiswrapper and binary-only drivers only work on one >>>platform. >>> >>>E.g. broadcom has a binary-only driver for their WLAN card on >>>Linux, but >>>only for mipsel (wrt54g). >>> >>>On Alpha or PowerPC, most WLAN equipment doesn't work under Linux, >>>at all. >>> >>> >>Definitely. I want my Airport Extreme to work! Many users of the >>BCM4301 chip can get it to work (kinda) with Linux via ndiswrapper, >>but that means they are much less likely to participate in any kind of >>reverse engineering effort, >> >> > >Do you know of anyone actually doing it? > >Rafael > > > See http://linux-bcom4301.sourceforge.net/ Jochen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On Tuesday, 9 of August 2005 15:52, Kyle Moffett wrote: > On Aug 9, 2005, at 05:09:55, Jochen Friedrich wrote: > > Third, both ndiswrapper and binary-only drivers only work on one > > platform. > > > > E.g. broadcom has a binary-only driver for their WLAN card on > > Linux, but > > only for mipsel (wrt54g). > > > > On Alpha or PowerPC, most WLAN equipment doesn't work under Linux, > > at all. > > Definitely. I want my Airport Extreme to work! Many users of the > BCM4301 chip can get it to work (kinda) with Linux via ndiswrapper, > but that means they are much less likely to participate in any kind of > reverse engineering effort, Do you know of anyone actually doing it? Rafael -- - Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here? - That depends a good deal on where you want to get to. -- Lewis Carroll "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On Aug 9, 2005, at 05:09:55, Jochen Friedrich wrote: Third, both ndiswrapper and binary-only drivers only work on one platform. E.g. broadcom has a binary-only driver for their WLAN card on Linux, but only for mipsel (wrt54g). On Alpha or PowerPC, most WLAN equipment doesn't work under Linux, at all. Definitely. I want my Airport Extreme to work! Many users of the BCM4301 chip can get it to work (kinda) with Linux via ndiswrapper, but that means they are much less likely to participate in any kind of reverse engineering effort, even if it's just testing a new driver. Cheers, Kyle Moffett -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCM/CS/IT/U d- s++: a18 C>$ UB/L/X/*(+)>$ P+++()>$ L(+ ++) E W++(+) N+++(++) o? K? w--- O? M++ V? PS+() PE+(-) Y+ PGP+++ t+(+++) 5 X R? tv-(--) b(++) DI+ D+ G e->$ h!*()>++$ r !y?(-) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
Adrian Bunk wrote: >I see at least two disadvantages: > >First, it doesn't encourage hardware manufacturers to support open >source development. > >Linux has only a small market share, but it's slowly growing. > >Linux driver support does sometimes influence the decision which >hardware to buy. > >With NdisWrapper, the hardware manufacturer can say: > "Our hardware is supported through the open source NdisWrapper." > >Without NdisWrapper, they will sometimes hear that people did choose to >buy hardware from a different hardware manufacturer that has a Linux >driver. This can make the hardware manufacturer more friendly towards >open source development (e.g. by providing hardware specs). > >Secondly, binary-only drivers have an impact on the stability of the >Linux kernel. > >E.g. during the last years the nvidia has produced relatively many >kernel crashes - and I doubt that binary-only drivers for Windows are >much better in this respect. > >The users only see their kernel crashing blaming the Linux kernel and >harming the reputation of the stability of Linux. > > Third, both ndiswrapper and binary-only drivers only work on one platform. E.g. broadcom has a binary-only driver for their WLAN card on Linux, but only for mipsel (wrt54g). On Alpha or PowerPC, most WLAN equipment doesn't work under Linux, at all. Jochen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 01:29 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 03:06:58PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 12:56 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > With NdisWrapper, the hardware manufacturer can say: > "Our hardware is supported through the open source NdisWrapper." "...I have a dream, were all OEM's will sell their systems and allow you to choose from your preffered Distro" just like you do when it makes you choose between XP Home or Professional. Since I am a Linux user and moved from M$, I have a commandment, which is, Thou Shalt not buy hardware from people that don't care about Linux. So far, I'm looking for a video card manufacturer that is *good* and that has Open Source drivers. But this is another story, and this only me being too crazy. ;-) Anyway, ndiswrapper is good, but is a "workaround" for hardware manufacturers. .Alejandro - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 03:06:58PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 12:56 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > > Again, the point is that ndiswrapper is a great project, but people > > uses it for the leftovers! We *shouldn't* buy leftovers or from Manuf > > that don't care about Linux. > > If you are always speccing out new systems then of course, but in the > real world I have some customers who need to dual boot and ideally it > would work on their existing hardware. Linux is a harder sell if people > need to replace a lot of their gear. That's the advantage of such drivers. I see at least two disadvantages: First, it doesn't encourage hardware manufacturers to support open source development. Linux has only a small market share, but it's slowly growing. Linux driver support does sometimes influence the decision which hardware to buy. With NdisWrapper, the hardware manufacturer can say: "Our hardware is supported through the open source NdisWrapper." Without NdisWrapper, they will sometimes hear that people did choose to buy hardware from a different hardware manufacturer that has a Linux driver. This can make the hardware manufacturer more friendly towards open source development (e.g. by providing hardware specs). Secondly, binary-only drivers have an impact on the stability of the Linux kernel. E.g. during the last years the nvidia has produced relatively many kernel crashes - and I doubt that binary-only drivers for Windows are much better in this respect. The users only see their kernel crashing blaming the Linux kernel and harming the reputation of the stability of Linux. > Lee cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
RE: Wireless support
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, Lee Revell wrote: > On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 12:56 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > > Again, the point is that ndiswrapper is a great project, but people > > uses it for the leftovers! We *shouldn't* buy leftovers or from Manuf > > that don't care about Linux. > > If you are always speccing out new systems then of course, but in the > real world I have some customers who need to dual boot and ideally it > would work on their existing hardware. Linux is a harder sell if people > need to replace a lot of their gear. Also remember that some people do not have a choice. They are stuck with the crappy laptops that purchasing gets. I am in a similar bind. I was planning on swapping out the minipci Broadcom card. Only after I purchaced the laptop did I find out that the bios was set to only recognise that wireless chipset. (Other than that it is an incredible AMD 64 laptop.) The biggest problem with ndisdriver is that it does not work with 64 bit kernels (last I checked) and it does not work with Kismet/AirSnort/etc. -- Q: Why do programmers confuse Halloween and Christmas? A: Because OCT 31 == DEC 25. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
RE: Wireless support
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: Any idea how much hardware is out there that needs >> ndiswrapper to work? >>> >>> No real idea but an educated guess: too much... >>> >> >> I like the idea of blacklisting anything with a native driver (even a >> partially working one), but leaving alone the stuff that is completely >> unsupported. >> >> Lee > > The Point is!!! We like more Open Source, I use open Source hardware, I > use > hardware that works in Linux, I use hardware were the manufacturer cares > about Linux. And people that use ndiswrapper is because the manufacturer > does not care about Linux. > > I wouldn't even buy hardware from people that think they don't need to > make > Drivers or release info for Linux because most of his customers are using > Windows. > > Again, the point is that ndiswrapper is a great project, but people uses it > for the leftovers! We *shouldn't* buy leftovers or from Manuf that don't > care about Linux. > > .Alejandro But for many, the emphasis is upon functionality. I should be able to go to a "computer store" and pick up a WIFI device, plug it in, and install the driver that comes with it. It may not be the "optimum" solution, but it should work. You see, "Open Source" is about politics (not meant to be a bad word), we need to have stuff work first, then we can deal with politics. The NDIS stuff is an excellent way to beat M$ with their own whip. Also, the interface to the OS, with a proper NDIS Wrapper, can protect against common coding problems like buffer-overwrites and trashing memory. The only compatibility problems I see is that NDIS code can do bad things in interrupts (like spin). You can test for these compatibility issues and make a learned cost v.s. performance trade-off. Right now, you can't test what you don't have. Cheers, Dick Johnson Penguin : Linux version 2.6.12 on an i686 machine (5537.79 BogoMips). Warning : 98.36% of all statistics are fiction. . I apologize for the following. I tried to kill it with the above dot : The information transmitted in this message is confidential and may be privileged. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Analogic Corporation immediately - by replying to this message or by sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - and destroy all copies of this information, including any attachments, without reading or disclosing them. Thank you. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
RE: Wireless support
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 12:56 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > Again, the point is that ndiswrapper is a great project, but people > uses it for the leftovers! We *shouldn't* buy leftovers or from Manuf > that don't care about Linux. If you are always speccing out new systems then of course, but in the real world I have some customers who need to dual boot and ideally it would work on their existing hardware. Linux is a harder sell if people need to replace a lot of their gear. Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
RE: Wireless support
> > > Any idea how much hardware is out there that needs > ndiswrapper to work? > > > > No real idea but an educated guess: too much... > > > > I like the idea of blacklisting anything with a native driver (even a > partially working one), but leaving alone the stuff that is completely > unsupported. > > Lee The Point is!!! We like more Open Source, I use open Source hardware, I use hardware that works in Linux, I use hardware were the manufacturer cares about Linux. And people that use ndiswrapper is because the manufacturer does not care about Linux. I wouldn't even buy hardware from people that think they don't need to make Drivers or release info for Linux because most of his customers are using Windows. Again, the point is that ndiswrapper is a great project, but people uses it for the leftovers! We *shouldn't* buy leftovers or from Manuf that don't care about Linux. .Alejandro - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:24 +0200, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:13 +0200, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: > > > >>I gave up on my laptop's built in Inprocomm IPN 2220 quite some time ago > >>(one more reason not to like Cisco). In the rare cases I do really need > >>wlan there is http://zd1211.sourceforge.net/ > > > > > > Any idea how much hardware is out there that needs ndiswrapper to work? > > No real idea but an educated guess: too much... > I like the idea of blacklisting anything with a native driver (even a partially working one), but leaving alone the stuff that is completely unsupported. Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
Lee Revell wrote: > On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:13 +0200, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: > >>I gave up on my laptop's built in Inprocomm IPN 2220 quite some time ago >>(one more reason not to like Cisco). In the rare cases I do really need >>wlan there is http://zd1211.sourceforge.net/ > > > Any idea how much hardware is out there that needs ndiswrapper to work? No real idea but an educated guess: too much... -- Andreas Steinmetz SPAMmers use [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:13 +0200, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: > I gave up on my laptop's built in Inprocomm IPN 2220 quite some time ago > (one more reason not to like Cisco). In the rare cases I do really need > wlan there is http://zd1211.sourceforge.net/ Any idea how much hardware is out there that needs ndiswrapper to work? Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 13:48 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > >>On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 09:31 +0300, Denis Vlasenko wrote: >> >>>On Monday 08 August 2005 03:39, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: >>> On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: >Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) >supported? Normally, linksys doesn't care much about Linux and they won't even release info for a driver. Yeah, they have some open info for the WRT's but the adapters are normally usable with ndiswrapper or Linuxant driver. >>> >>>The more I read this, the more I think about usefulness of blacklisting >>>ndiswrapper. >> >>What's your reasoning? The technical aspect of the argument is obvious >>(incompatible with 4K stacks) but the political side seems insolvable. >>Wouldn't this leave thousands of users with non working hardware?\ > > > arguably it doesn't really work with ndiswrapper either; only most of > the time (due to windows having a 12kb stack)... and it's effectively a > binary only kernel module. > > it also provides a discentive for vendors to provide real linux > drivers > Oh well, I gave up on my laptop's built in Inprocomm IPN 2220 quite some time ago (one more reason not to like Cisco). In the rare cases I do really need wlan there is http://zd1211.sourceforge.net/ You can get it to work on x86_64. It currently has no wpa but I don't care, IPSec is a proven solution. The code looks ugly but time will show how it evolves. And about 40 EUR for the Longshine LCS-8170 802.11b/g and Bluetooth 1.2 combo adapter isn't really expensive. The only drawback is that it is another piece of external hardware to carry around as well as some more laptop built in crap. -- Andreas Steinmetz SPAMmers use [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 22:50 -0700, Martin J. Bligh wrote: > It doesn't actually say it works on Linux. Perhaps you wanted > mysticgooglepsychic.com? ;-) > > I don't think it is reasonable to expect google to know what ndiswrapper > is ... or perhaps it just has a taste filter installed? ;-) True, I also found that a large reason for the difficulty of googling for Linux driver support info is that many projects that start as out of tree drivers or reverse engineering efforts don't update their web sites when the project ends with the driver being merged into the kernel (like prism54.org). So the web site still shows an incomplete list of supported hardware leading users to think their newer hardware is unsupported while in fact it probably works OOTB. Of course it's easiest to just try it but I don't have the hardware on hand... Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 13:48 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 09:31 +0300, Denis Vlasenko wrote: > > On Monday 08 August 2005 03:39, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: > > > On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > > > > Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) > > > > supported? > > > > > > Normally, linksys doesn't care much about Linux and they won't even > > > release info for a driver. Yeah, they have some open info for the WRT's > > > but the adapters are normally usable with ndiswrapper or Linuxant > > > driver. > > > > The more I read this, the more I think about usefulness of blacklisting > > ndiswrapper. > > What's your reasoning? The technical aspect of the argument is obvious > (incompatible with 4K stacks) but the political side seems insolvable. > Wouldn't this leave thousands of users with non working hardware?\ arguably it doesn't really work with ndiswrapper either; only most of the time (due to windows having a 12kb stack)... and it's effectively a binary only kernel module. it also provides a discentive for vendors to provide real linux drivers - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 09:31 +0300, Denis Vlasenko wrote: > On Monday 08 August 2005 03:39, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > > > Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) > > > supported? > > > > Normally, linksys doesn't care much about Linux and they won't even > > release info for a driver. Yeah, they have some open info for the WRT's > > but the adapters are normally usable with ndiswrapper or Linuxant > > driver. > > The more I read this, the more I think about usefulness of blacklisting > ndiswrapper. What's your reasoning? The technical aspect of the argument is obvious (incompatible with 4K stacks) but the political side seems insolvable. Wouldn't this leave thousands of users with non working hardware? Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On Monday 08 August 2005 03:39, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: > On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > > Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) > > supported? > > Normally, linksys doesn't care much about Linux and they won't even > release info for a driver. Yeah, they have some open info for the WRT's > but the adapters are normally usable with ndiswrapper or Linuxant > driver. The more I read this, the more I think about usefulness of blacklisting ndiswrapper. -- vda - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
--Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Sunday, August 07, 2005 15:56:06 -0400): > On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: >> Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) >> supported? >> > > Wow, Google has really declined in quality. I got zero hits for > "Linksys WUSB 54G linux". Then I found this page on my own. > > (from http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List) > > Card: Linksys #[WUSB54G], 802.11b/g, USB 2.0 -- [link here|List#WUSB54G] > * Chipset: Prism54 > * usbid: 5041:2234 > * Driver: Linksys Windows XP driver > http://www.linksys.com/download/default.asp > * Other: Works smoothly, of course ;) - this is the device the USB > extension was originally developed for. WEP is running, WPA is > supported using wpa_supplicant 0.2.5. No problems with both 1.1 > and 2.0 host controllers. As with many other USB devices, no > success with 2.4 kernels so far. Try to use 2.6.7 or better. > There is a native driver for Prism54 that is working on USB > support. View its status at Prism54.org > > Sorry for the WOB. And if anyone from Google is reading, WTF? It doesn't actually say it works on Linux. Perhaps you wanted mysticgooglepsychic.com? ;-) I don't think it is reasonable to expect google to know what ndiswrapper is ... or perhaps it just has a taste filter installed? ;-) M. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 21:20 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 18:39 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > > > Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) > > > supported? > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > Lee > > > > Normally, linksys doesn't care much about Linux and they won't even > > release info for a driver. Yeah, they have some open info for the WRT's > > but the adapters are normally usable with ndiswrapper or Linuxant > > driver. > > > > IMHO, in reference to Wireless adapters, I would get already supported > > ones. > > Well, AFAICT it should be supported by the prism54 driver. Is this not > the case? http://linuxwifi.com/modules/wiwimod/?page=DeviceList Apparently, looks like only the WUSB54G not the WUSB54GS. But that makes me think that it should be supported soon by the prism54. Maybe ask them if they have a clue, or if they have an experimental patch to support it? > Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 18:39 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: > On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > > Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) > > supported? > > > > TIA, > > > > Lee > > Normally, linksys doesn't care much about Linux and they won't even > release info for a driver. Yeah, they have some open info for the WRT's > but the adapters are normally usable with ndiswrapper or Linuxant > driver. > > IMHO, in reference to Wireless adapters, I would get already supported > ones. Well, AFAICT it should be supported by the prism54 driver. Is this not the case? Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) > supported? > > TIA, > > Lee Normally, linksys doesn't care much about Linux and they won't even release info for a driver. Yeah, they have some open info for the WRT's but the adapters are normally usable with ndiswrapper or Linuxant driver. IMHO, in reference to Wireless adapters, I would get already supported ones. .Alejandro - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Wireless support
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) > supported? > Wow, Google has really declined in quality. I got zero hits for "Linksys WUSB 54G linux". Then I found this page on my own. (from http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List) Card: Linksys #[WUSB54G], 802.11b/g, USB 2.0 -- [link here|List#WUSB54G] * Chipset: Prism54 * usbid: 5041:2234 * Driver: Linksys Windows XP driver http://www.linksys.com/download/default.asp * Other: Works smoothly, of course ;) - this is the device the USB extension was originally developed for. WEP is running, WPA is supported using wpa_supplicant 0.2.5. No problems with both 1.1 and 2.0 host controllers. As with many other USB devices, no success with 2.4 kernels so far. Try to use 2.6.7 or better. There is a native driver for Prism54 that is working on USB support. View its status at Prism54.org Sorry for the WOB. And if anyone from Google is reading, WTF? Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Wireless support
Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) supported? TIA, Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
