Re: negative mod use count
> Not necessarily. Please read the other replies (specifically mine) to > discover the real answer as to why modules can _legally_ have negative > use counts. thanks to all the replies, I think it is a bug in the module since the use count is -3 :). it is ltmodem driver for lucent win modems... thnx, lynx - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: negative mod use count
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 04:55:30PM -0800, Dr. Kelsey Hudson wrote: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Boris Dragovic wrote: > > what does negative module use count mean? > > That means that there's a bug in someone's driver. Not necessarily. Please read the other replies (specifically mine) to discover the real answer as to why modules can _legally_ have negative use counts. -- Russell King ([EMAIL PROTECTED])The developer of ARM Linux http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: negative mod use count
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 04:55:30PM -0800, Dr. Kelsey Hudson wrote: On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Boris Dragovic wrote: what does negative module use count mean? That means that there's a bug in someone's driver. Not necessarily. Please read the other replies (specifically mine) to discover the real answer as to why modules can _legally_ have negative use counts. -- Russell King ([EMAIL PROTECTED])The developer of ARM Linux http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: negative mod use count
Not necessarily. Please read the other replies (specifically mine) to discover the real answer as to why modules can _legally_ have negative use counts. thanks to all the replies, I think it is a bug in the module since the use count is -3 :). it is ltmodem driver for lucent win modems... thnx, lynx - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: negative mod use count
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Boris Dragovic wrote: > what does negative module use count mean? That means that there's a bug in someone's driver. For some reason, the function to decrement the module use is called more than once when a controlling process releases use of a module. This will prevent you from being able to 'rmmod' or 'modprobe -r' it; a "Device or resource busy" error or similar will result IIRC. Submit a bug to the driver maintainer. Kelsey Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Engineer Compendium Technologies, Inc (619) 725-0771 --- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: negative mod use count
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Boris Dragovic wrote: what does negative module use count mean? That means that there's a bug in someone's driver. For some reason, the function to decrement the module use is called more than once when a controlling process releases use of a module. This will prevent you from being able to 'rmmod' or 'modprobe -r' it; a "Device or resource busy" error or similar will result IIRC. Submit a bug to the driver maintainer. Kelsey Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Engineer Compendium Technologies, Inc (619) 725-0771 --- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: negative mod use count
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:58:06 +0100, Boris Dragovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >what does negative module use count mean? Either an extra MOD_DEC_USE_COUNT was issued (buggy code) or the module has a can_unload() function. When modules define a can_unload() routine then the use count is always displayed as -1 because the module decides if it can be unloaded. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: negative mod use count
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 09:31:46PM +0100, Frank v Waveren wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 03:08:11PM -0500, Brian Gerst wrote: > > > what does negative module use count mean? > > A bugged module. > > Not at all. A non-zero usage count means the module can't be unloaded. > Whatever the module does with the usage count apart from that is > completely it's own choice. A negative module use count (specifically "-1") depends on whether a module has a "can_unload" routine. If it does not have a "can_unload" routine, then chances are either the module decided "I can never be removed" or else the module is buggy. However, if a "can_unload" routine does exist (as in ipv6) then the module use count is unconditionally set to "-1". -- Russell King ([EMAIL PROTECTED])The developer of ARM Linux http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: negative mod use count
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 03:08:11PM -0500, Brian Gerst wrote: > > what does negative module use count mean? > A bugged module. Not at all. A non-zero usage count means the module can't be unloaded. Whatever the module does with the usage count apart from that is completely it's own choice. -- Frank v Waveren Fingerprint: 0EDB 8787 fvw@[var.cx|dse.nl|stack.nl|chello.nl] ICQ#10074100 09B9 6EF5 6425 B855 Public key: http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 7179 3036 E136 B85D - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: negative mod use count
Boris Dragovic wrote: > > hi, > what does negative module use count mean? A bugged module. -- Brian Gerst - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
negative mod use count
hi, what does negative module use count mean? lynx - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
negative mod use count
hi, what does negative module use count mean? lynx - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: negative mod use count
Boris Dragovic wrote: hi, what does negative module use count mean? A bugged module. -- Brian Gerst - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: negative mod use count
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 03:08:11PM -0500, Brian Gerst wrote: what does negative module use count mean? A bugged module. Not at all. A non-zero usage count means the module can't be unloaded. Whatever the module does with the usage count apart from that is completely it's own choice. -- Frank v Waveren Fingerprint: 0EDB 8787 fvw@[var.cx|dse.nl|stack.nl|chello.nl] ICQ#10074100 09B9 6EF5 6425 B855 Public key: http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 7179 3036 E136 B85D - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: negative mod use count
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 09:31:46PM +0100, Frank v Waveren wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 03:08:11PM -0500, Brian Gerst wrote: what does negative module use count mean? A bugged module. Not at all. A non-zero usage count means the module can't be unloaded. Whatever the module does with the usage count apart from that is completely it's own choice. A negative module use count (specifically "-1") depends on whether a module has a "can_unload" routine. If it does not have a "can_unload" routine, then chances are either the module decided "I can never be removed" or else the module is buggy. However, if a "can_unload" routine does exist (as in ipv6) then the module use count is unconditionally set to "-1". -- Russell King ([EMAIL PROTECTED])The developer of ARM Linux http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: negative mod use count
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:58:06 +0100, Boris Dragovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what does negative module use count mean? Either an extra MOD_DEC_USE_COUNT was issued (buggy code) or the module has a can_unload() function. When modules define a can_unload() routine then the use count is always displayed as -1 because the module decides if it can be unloaded. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
