Re: Kworld usb 2800D audio

2010-10-29 Thread Tim Stowell
wow, I'm just glad you and other kernel devs take the time to figure
all this out!

-Tim

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Devin Heitmueller
 wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Tim Stowell  wrote:
>> Ah my bad, I need to read a little deeper it seems :) Thanks for the
>> info, now I'll stop pulling my hair out trying to get non-existent
>> audio.
>
> If it's any consolation, I had to rip one of the units apart and break
> out a scope to come to that conclusion.
>
> Devin
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Re: Kworld usb 2800D audio

2010-10-28 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Tim Stowell  wrote:
> Ah my bad, I need to read a little deeper it seems :) Thanks for the
> info, now I'll stop pulling my hair out trying to get non-existent
> audio.

If it's any consolation, I had to rip one of the units apart and break
out a scope to come to that conclusion.

Devin

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Re: Kworld usb 2800D audio

2010-10-28 Thread Tim Stowell
Ah my bad, I need to read a little deeper it seems :) Thanks for the
info, now I'll stop pulling my hair out trying to get non-existent
audio.

-Tim

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Devin Heitmueller
 wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Tim Stowell  wrote:
>> Thanks for the response! That makes sense about the 2.5 mm cable. Not
>> to be obstinate or anything but I found this link
>> http://video4linux-list.1448896.n2.nabble.com/SUCCESS-KWorld-VS-USB2800D-recognized-as-PointNix-Intra-Oral-Camera-No-Composite-Input-td3069455.html
>> where the users claims they were able to get a new capture device that
>> didn't require using the 2.5mm cable, although I'm not sure how they
>> did it. I guess I'm hoping to not have to buy a sound card for capture
>> if at all possible as I'm using an embedded pc that doesn't have any
>> sound cards, thanks
>
> Read my response in the second message in that thread you provided a
> link for.  :-)
>
> The fact that the ALSA device was being created was actually a bug in
> the em28xx driver.  The hardware does not support capture over the
> USB.
>
> There are other devices which do support audio over the USB - the
> limitation is specific to this particular product.
>
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Re: Kworld usb 2800D audio

2010-10-28 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Tim Stowell  wrote:
> Thanks for the response! That makes sense about the 2.5 mm cable. Not
> to be obstinate or anything but I found this link
> http://video4linux-list.1448896.n2.nabble.com/SUCCESS-KWorld-VS-USB2800D-recognized-as-PointNix-Intra-Oral-Camera-No-Composite-Input-td3069455.html
> where the users claims they were able to get a new capture device that
> didn't require using the 2.5mm cable, although I'm not sure how they
> did it. I guess I'm hoping to not have to buy a sound card for capture
> if at all possible as I'm using an embedded pc that doesn't have any
> sound cards, thanks

Read my response in the second message in that thread you provided a
link for.  :-)

The fact that the ALSA device was being created was actually a bug in
the em28xx driver.  The hardware does not support capture over the
USB.

There are other devices which do support audio over the USB - the
limitation is specific to this particular product.

Devin

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Re: Kworld usb 2800D audio

2010-10-28 Thread Tim Stowell
Thanks for the response! That makes sense about the 2.5 mm cable. Not
to be obstinate or anything but I found this link
http://video4linux-list.1448896.n2.nabble.com/SUCCESS-KWorld-VS-USB2800D-recognized-as-PointNix-Intra-Oral-Camera-No-Composite-Input-td3069455.html
where the users claims they were able to get a new capture device that
didn't require using the 2.5mm cable, although I'm not sure how they
did it. I guess I'm hoping to not have to buy a sound card for capture
if at all possible as I'm using an embedded pc that doesn't have any
sound cards, thanks

-Tim

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Devin Heitmueller
 wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Tim Stowell  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm able to capture video just fine with my  Kworld usb 2800D usb
>> device and the recent (I've installed the April v4l-dvb em28xx
>> driver), but I can't get any audio. I tried modprobe em28xx-alsa, and
>> the module loads, but alsa can't find any sound cards. Do I need the
>> snd-usb-audio driver? the usb device is based on the em2860 chip. Any
>> help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
>
> Hello Tim,
>
> If I recall, the KWorld 2800D doesn't actually capture audio directly
> via the USB.  The device has a 2.5mm cable that you are required to
> connect to our sound card's line-in.
>
> Devin
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Re: Kworld usb 2800D audio

2010-10-28 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Tim Stowell  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm able to capture video just fine with my  Kworld usb 2800D usb
> device and the recent (I've installed the April v4l-dvb em28xx
> driver), but I can't get any audio. I tried modprobe em28xx-alsa, and
> the module loads, but alsa can't find any sound cards. Do I need the
> snd-usb-audio driver? the usb device is based on the em2860 chip. Any
> help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

Hello Tim,

If I recall, the KWorld 2800D doesn't actually capture audio directly
via the USB.  The device has a 2.5mm cable that you are required to
connect to our sound card's line-in.

Devin

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Kworld usb 2800D audio

2010-10-28 Thread Tim Stowell
Hi,

I'm able to capture video just fine with my  Kworld usb 2800D usb
device and the recent (I've installed the April v4l-dvb em28xx
driver), but I can't get any audio. I tried modprobe em28xx-alsa, and
the module loads, but alsa can't find any sound cards. Do I need the
snd-usb-audio driver? the usb device is based on the em2860 chip. Any
help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

-Tim
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