TechnoTrend TT-connect S2-3650 CI support
Hi guys,
This is just a little thing, I'm sorry for disturbing you with this. I'm just
slightly confused because TechnoTrend TT-connect S2-3650 CI device is listed
on wiki as supported device but when you go to product wiki page you get
information that this is currently experimental and not supported. This
information is most probably outdated ('This page was last modified on 27
March 2011, at 12:26.'), but I'm looking for confirmation whether there will
be no problems with this device before I will buy it. Could you please let me
know? It's hard to find any evidence on this via Internet on my own.
Thank you very much and kind regards,
Konrad
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in
the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Remote control TechnoTrend TT-connect S2-3650 CI
Hi André, Thanks for the help! I already fixed the problem! By accident... On Saturday 19 March 2011, André Weidemann wrote: I don't think that this is a hardware problem. I think it is related to the driver. When I added support for the S2-3650CI to Dominik Kuhlen's code for the PC-TV452e, I used the RC-code function pctv452e_rc_query for the S2-3650CI. I ran into this problem back then and thought that setting .rc_interval to 500 would fix the problem good enough. My first idea was simple: Set it to 1000. Better a slow remote control than double key presses. But the double key press events remained. So I was planning to do some more debugging. But my next idea was: If I get double events anyway, I can also speed up the remote by setting .rc_interval to 250. After setting it, everything was faster and ... the double events disappeared!!! Of course, I did some further tests and found out that setting .rc_interval to 50 is also working perfectly! No double key press events so far and the remote is reacting really quick. I don't really understand why this is fixing the issue... Does it make sense to put this into the official repo? Or is it too dangerous? It's possibly breaking things for others... Regards Jochen -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Remote control TechnoTrend TT-connect S2-3650 CI
Am 20.03.2011 um 21:45 schrieb Jochen Reinwand jochen.reinw...@gmx.de: Hi André, Thanks for the help! I already fixed the problem! By accident... On Saturday 19 March 2011, André Weidemann wrote: I don't think that this is a hardware problem. I think it is related to the driver. When I added support for the S2-3650CI to Dominik Kuhlen's code for the PC-TV452e, I used the RC-code function pctv452e_rc_query for the S2-3650CI. I ran into this problem back then and thought that setting .rc_interval to 500 would fix the problem good enough. My first idea was simple: Set it to 1000. Better a slow remote control than double key presses. But the double key press events remained. So I was planning to do some more debugging. But my next idea was: If I get double events anyway, I can also speed up the remote by setting .rc_interval to 250. After setting it, everything was faster and ... the double events disappeared!!! Of course, I did some further tests and found out that setting .rc_interval to 50 is also working perfectly! No double key press events so far and the remote is reacting really quick. I don't really understand why this is fixing the issue... Does it make sense to put this into the official repo? Or is it too dangerous? It's possibly breaking things for others... Regards Jochen -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Hi, I just tried and indeed, it works for me as well;-) Never switched so fast... I tried 50 but it is almost too fast Maybe 75 or 100... By the way, are there any thoughts/plans to merge TT S2-3600 into kernel some time? Would be a guinea pig and buy a card for CI testing. Greetings Harald-- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Remote control TechnoTrend TT-connect S2-3650 CI
Hi everyone, I've searched the archive and Google for this, but haven't found anything useful... I'm using a TechnoTrend TT-connect S2-3650 CI. The S2API support is great! I do not have any problems watching DVB-S and DVB-S2 content. Tuning is quite fast! It's working much better than my Hauppauge WinTV Nova-TD, but that's a different story... The only severe problem I have with the TechnoTrend is related to the remote control. Around 30% of the key presses produce two key events. It's not related to any lirc or X11 configuration issue. I verified it using the tool input-events on the device. There are really two separate events coming from the device. Is this due to a hardware problem, or is it a driver issue? My C and Kernel knowledge is not really the best. But there is some code in dvb-usb-remote.c that seems to be related to key repeats. Are the dvb remote input devices doing something special here? I'm also not able to modify behaviour of the device via xset r rate when using it as X11 input device. It's only affecting the real keyboard that is also attached. The system is a recent yaVDR. So it's more or less an Ubuntu 10.4. Kernel is 2.6.32. S2API should be a recent check out. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Jochen -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Remote control TechnoTrend TT-connect S2-3650 CI
Hi Jochen, On 19.03.2011 19:40, Jochen Reinwand wrote: I'm using a TechnoTrend TT-connect S2-3650 CI. The S2API support is great! I do not have any problems watching DVB-S and DVB-S2 content. Tuning is quite fast! It's working much better than my Hauppauge WinTV Nova-TD, but that's a different story... The only severe problem I have with the TechnoTrend is related to the remote control. Around 30% of the key presses produce two key events. It's not related to any lirc or X11 configuration issue. I verified it using the tool input-events on the device. There are really two separate events coming from the device. Is this due to a hardware problem, or is it a driver issue? My C and Kernel knowledge is not really the best. But there is some code in dvb-usb-remote.c that seems to be related to key repeats. Are the dvb remote input devices doing something special here? I'm also not able to modify behaviour of the device via xset r rate when using it as X11 input device. It's only affecting the real keyboard that is also attached. I don't think that this is a hardware problem. I think it is related to the driver. When I added support for the S2-3650CI to Dominik Kuhlen's code for the PC-TV452e, I used the RC-code function pctv452e_rc_query for the S2-3650CI. I ran into this problem back then and thought that setting .rc_interval to 500 would fix the problem good enough. Since I never used the supplied remote with my box, I never looked into the problem again. Unfortunately I do not know how to fix this problem. If anyone has some insights on reading remote control inputs, please take a look here and see if you can fix the problem: http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2-liplianin/file/7e47ba1d4ae8/linux/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/pctv452e.c#l1355 The remote is the same as the one shipped with the TT-S1500. So the code for reading the remote input should already exist. Regards André -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [linux-dvb] TechnoTrend TT-connect S2-3650 CI
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:30:15PM +0200, Jens Nixdorf wrote: As Niels told you already, you cant use both types of driver. I own the same DVB-S2-Box from Technotrend and i'm using it with VDR 1.7.0 in ubuntu 9.04. I was following the wiki for installing s2-liplianin- drivers, and since this time the box is running including its CI. Mine as well under openSUSE 11.1. The part should definitely get the supported status. I figure the s2-liaplianin tree need to me merged into the official tree then. As the S2-3200 card which is technically very similar except for the USB interface is officially supported in kernel 2.6.29, a respective hint should be added to the Wiki. I may test a 2.6.29 kernel for openSUSE 11.1 today and give some feedback. Same for the S2-3600 which is technically identical except for the CI. Any idea if the Satelco part (http://www.amazon.de/SATELCO-EasyWatch-HDTV-USB-DVB-S2/dp/B000X1C02W) is a OEM part of the S2-3650? Maybe there could be some optimization (the log is full with some bandwisth-messages from the stb6100-part), but it works at least good enough for me. modprobe ... verbose=0 helps. -- Save the Whales -- Harpoon a Honda. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
RE: [linux-dvb] TechnoTrend TT-connect S2-3650 CI
There's still no fully working driver for the TT-connectR CT-3650 CI DVB-C and DVB-T which is very similar to the TT-connect S2-3650 CI. Is anyone working on getting this USB device to correctly work with the driver and successfully tune into channels or is this problem being ignored in the hope it will go away? Thanks Chris / Christopher J. Thornley is c...@coolrose.fsnet.co.uk ( //--, (*)OXOXOXOXO(*=*=O=S=U=0=3=6=*=- ( \\--' \ Home Page :-http://www.coolrose.fsnet.co.uk -Original Message- From: linux-media-ow...@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-media-ow...@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Harald Milz Sent: 04 September 2009 09:30 To: linux-media@vger.kernel.org Cc: linux-...@linuxtv.org Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] TechnoTrend TT-connect S2-3650 CI On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:30:15PM +0200, Jens Nixdorf wrote: As Niels told you already, you cant use both types of driver. I own the same DVB-S2-Box from Technotrend and i'm using it with VDR 1.7.0 in ubuntu 9.04. I was following the wiki for installing s2-liplianin- drivers, and since this time the box is running including its CI. Mine as well under openSUSE 11.1. The part should definitely get the supported status. I figure the s2-liaplianin tree need to me merged into the official tree then. As the S2-3200 card which is technically very similar except for the USB interface is officially supported in kernel 2.6.29, a respective hint should be added to the Wiki. I may test a 2.6.29 kernel for openSUSE 11.1 today and give some feedback. Same for the S2-3600 which is technically identical except for the CI. Any idea if the Satelco part (http://www.amazon.de/SATELCO-EasyWatch-HDTV-USB-DVB-S2/dp/B000X1C02W) is a OEM part of the S2-3650? Maybe there could be some optimization (the log is full with some bandwisth-messages from the stb6100-part), but it works at least good enough for me. modprobe ... verbose=0 helps. -- Save the Whales -- Harpoon a Honda. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [linux-dvb] TechnoTrend TT-connect S2-3650 CI
Op Di, 11 augustus, 2009 20:32, schreef Christopher Thornley: -- SNIP -- I probably would like to get both the S2API and Multiprot methods working. Many Thanks Chris That won't be possible. It's S2API or Multiproto. And since S2API is the official standard - besides the fact that Multiproto is old and absolete - you should forget about Multiproto. So in short, your DVB devices should be used using the S2API drivers. You can use v4l or s2-liplianin (I use s2-liplianin myself) which are both S2API. Only v4l is the official tree while s2-liplianin is more experimental. After fetching v4l or s2-liplianin you can easily install them for your kernel using: make ; make install ; reboot. Then check if your cards were detected using dmesg (it should tell you information if the DVB devices were detected) and you can check /dev/dvb. You should have two folders containing adapter0 and adapter1. Normally, a simple check would be to use a DVB application like Kaffeine. Alternatively you can use MythTV 0.22 (which supports S2API), VDR 1.7.0 with my S2API patch or VDR 1.7.4 or higher (latest version is 1.7.8). Regards, Niels Wagenaar -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
TT-Connect S2-3650 CI
Hi @all, because i'm building a new TV-Box with a new ATOM-ION-Board which doesnt have any PCI-Slots, i've been searching for a while for an USB-DVB-S-Box with a Common Interface. In the Wiki i found this: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TechnoTrend_TT-connect_S2-3650_CI. But i'm a bit confused about the line: It is currently unsupported, but experimental support has been attempted. while at the bottom of this wikipage it is stated, that all parts are working, even the CI. Can someone approve that it works completely? And another question about another(?) USB-Box: I found this one: Satelco Easywatch HDTV USB CI, which looks quite similar. Is this the same? Some infos about it (sorry, only in german): http://www.satelco.de/htm/shop/easywatch_usb/details_hdtv_usb_ci.php?s=Produktinfo thanks, Jens -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Fwd: [linux-dvb] TT-Connect S2 -3650 CI and Pinnacle PCTV Dual Sat Pro PCI 4000I
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [linux-dvb] Fwd: TT-Connect S2 -3650 CI and Pinnacle PCTV Dual Sat Pro PCI 4000I Date: Sunday 14 June 2009 From: Christian Heidingsfelder [Heidingsfelder + Partner] christ...@heidingsfelder-partner.de To: linux-...@linuxtv.org First of all : Hi to all (and especially to Faruk) :) . It seems i own the two not working DVB-S Devices on linux. Its a TT-Connect S2 -3650 CI and a Pinnacle PCTV Dual Sat Pro PCI 4000I. Is there any chance to get one of them working. I use Gentoo with the 2.6.29- gentoo-r5 kernel. Regards Chris -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Christian Heidingsfelder Heidingsfelder + Partner Kirchgasse 9 72474 Winterlingen-Benzingen Tel: +49 7577 933864 Fax: +49 7577 933863 christ...@heidingsfelder.eu DE -- *** Diese eMailadresse ist keine Zustelladresse. Aus technischen Gruenden kann ich Ihre eMail nicht sofort nach Eingang darauf überpruefen, ob sie Fristen oder Termine enthaelt. Daher uebernehme ich keine Gewaehr, daß Ihre Nachricht so rechtzeitig gelesen wird, daß alle zur Einhaltung von etwaigen Fristen oder Terminen notwendigen Massnahmen ergriffen werden koennen. Bitte uebermitteln Sie solche Schriftstuecke per Fax oder Brief an die weiter obenstehende Anschrift. *** Hiermit widerspreche ich ausdruecklich jeglicher Nutzung oder Uebermittlung meiner Daten, gleichgueltig, zu welchen Zwecken oder an welchen Empfaenger sie erfolgt. Insbesondere widerspreche ich der Nutzung oder Uebermittlung meiner Daten fuer Werbe, Markt- oder Meinungsforschungszwecken gemaess § 28 Absatz 3 Bundesdatenschutzgesetz. *** Sicherheitshinweis: Wie Sie wissen, können eMails missbräuchlich unter fremden Namen erstellt oder verändert werden. Aus diesem Grunde bitte ich um Verständnis dafür, daß ich zu Ihrem und meinem Schutz die rechtliche Verbindlichkeit der in dieser eMail gemachten Erklärungen ausschliessen muß. Diese Regelung gilt nur dann nicht, wenn ich mit Ihnen eine anderweitige schriftliche Vereinbarung über die Einhaltung von Sicherheits- und Verschlüsselungstandards getroffen habe. *** Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata. (Falls dieser umherreisende Brief, der in unsichere Winde entsendet, aber Gott anvertraut wurde, zufällig in fremde Hände geraten ist, so bitte ich, dass er dem gegeben werde, an wen allein er gerichtet ist, und dass niemand ihn stiehlt, für den er nicht gemacht ist.) --- -- -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Christian Heidingsfelder Heidingsfelder + Partner Kirchgasse 9 72474 Winterlingen-Benzingen Tel: +49 7577 933864 Fax: +49 7577 933863 christ...@heidingsfelder.eu DE -- *** Diese eMailadresse ist keine Zustelladresse. Aus technischen Gruenden kann ich Ihre eMail nicht sofort nach Eingang darauf überpruefen, ob sie Fristen oder Termine enthaelt. Daher uebernehme ich keine Gewaehr, daß Ihre Nachricht so rechtzeitig gelesen wird, daß alle zur Einhaltung von etwaigen Fristen oder Terminen notwendigen Massnahmen ergriffen werden koennen. Bitte uebermitteln Sie solche Schriftstuecke per Fax oder Brief an die weiter obenstehende Anschrift. *** Hiermit widerspreche ich ausdruecklich jeglicher Nutzung oder Uebermittlung meiner Daten, gleichgueltig, zu welchen Zwecken oder an welchen Empfaenger sie erfolgt. Insbesondere widerspreche ich der Nutzung oder Uebermittlung meiner Daten fuer Werbe, Markt- oder Meinungsforschungszwecken gemaess § 28 Absatz 3 Bundesdatenschutzgesetz. *** Sicherheitshinweis: Wie Sie wissen, können eMails missbräuchlich unter fremden Namen erstellt oder verändert werden. Aus diesem Grunde bitte ich um Verständnis dafür, daß ich zu Ihrem und meinem Schutz die rechtliche Verbindlichkeit der in dieser eMail gemachten Erklärungen ausschliessen muß. Diese Regelung gilt nur dann nicht, wenn ich mit Ihnen eine anderweitige schriftliche Vereinbarung über die Einhaltung von Sicherheits- und Verschlüsselungstandards getroffen habe. *** Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata. (Falls dieser umherreisende Brief, der in unsichere Winde entsendet, aber Gott anvertraut wurde, zufällig in fremde Hände geraten ist, so bitte ich, dass er dem gegeben werde, an wen allein er gerichtet ist, und dass niemand ihn stiehlt, für den er nicht gemacht ist.) ___ linux-dvb users mailing list For V4L/DVB development, please use instead linux-media
Re: TT-Connect S2 -3650 CI and a Pinnacle PCTV Dual Sat Pro PCI 4000I
Hi Chris, Christian Heidingsfelder [Heidingsfelder + Partner] wrote: It seems i own the two not working DVB-S Devices on linux. Its a TT-Connect S2 -3650 CI and a Pinnacle PCTV Dual Sat Pro PCI 4000I. Is there any chance to get one of them working. I use Gentoo with the 2.6.29- gentoo-r5 kernel. a driver for the Pinnacle PCTV Sat HDTV Pro USB (452e) was written by Dominik Kuhlen at the beginning of last year. This Pinnacle device is based on the same hardware as the TechnoTrend S2-3600. From what I know Michael H. Schimek has contributed the S2-3650 code and CI handling for the box(anyone, please correct me if I am wrong). Some interim state of drivers for above mentioned devices is currently included in Igor M. Liplianin's repository at http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2-liplianin/ The linuxtv.org wiki lists a patch under http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TechnoTrend_TT-connect_S2-3650_CI#S2API to be applied, but it fails on some chunks... I'd say your best chance is to start asking the people who wrote the drivers to create a diff against http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb that will eventually go into the kernel. As for the Pinnacle PCTV Dual Sat Pro PCI 4000I... All I know is that the wiki at http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Pinnacle_PCTV_Dual_Sat_Pro_PCI_4000I lists this device as not supported. Regards. André -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: TT-Connect S2 -3650 CI and a Pinnacle PCTV Dual Sat Pro PCI 4000I
Hi André first of all, thanks for responding :-) http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TechnoTrend_TT-connect_S2-3650_CI#S2A PI to be applied, but it fails on some chunks... yep, i tried it (maybe i did something wrong !? ) : snip--- scheffeneu ~ # mkdir 3650 scheffeneu ~ # cd 3650 scheffeneu 3650 # hg clone -r 9263 http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2- liplianin destination directory: s2-liplianin requesting all changes adding changesets adding manifests adding file changes added 9264 changesets with 24422 changes to 1647 files updating working directory 1189 files updated, 0 files merged, 0 files removed, 0 files unresolved scheffeneu 3650 # wget http://hem.passagen.se/faruks/3650/my_s2api_pctv452e.txt --2009-06-14 15:43:18-- http://hem.passagen.se/faruks/3650/my_s2api_pctv452e.txt Resolving hem.passagen.se... 91.196.241.100 Connecting to hem.passagen.se|91.196.241.100|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 43373 (42K) [text/plain] Saving to: `my_s2api_pctv452e.txt' 100%[] 43,373 71.3K/s in 0.6s 2009-06-14 15:43:22 (71.3 KB/s) - `my_s2api_pctv452e.txt' saved [43373/43373] scheffeneu 3650 # cd s2-liplianin scheffeneu s2-liplianin # patch -p1 ../my_s2api_pctv452e.txt patching file linux/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/pctv452e.c patching file linux/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/lnbp22.c patching file linux/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/stb0899_algo.c patching file linux/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/stb0899_drv.c patching file linux/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/stb0899_drv.h patching file linux/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/stb0899_priv.h patching file linux/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/stb6100.c patching file linux/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/stb6100.h patching file linux/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/stb6100_cfg.h patching file linux/include/linux/dvb/frontend.h scheffeneu s2-liplianin # make make -C /root/3650/s2-liplianin/v4l /bin/sh: /sbin/lsmod: No such file or directory make[1]: Entering directory `/root/3650/s2-liplianin/v4l' No version yet, using 2.6.29-gentoo-r5 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/3650/s2-liplianin/v4l' /bin/sh: /sbin/lsmod: No such file or directory make[1]: Entering directory `/root/3650/s2-liplianin/v4l' scripts/make_makefile.pl Updating/Creating .config Preparing to compile for kernel version 2.6.29 Created default (all yes) .config file ./scripts/make_myconfig.pl make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/3650/s2-liplianin/v4l' /bin/sh: /sbin/lsmod: No such file or directory make[1]: Entering directory `/root/3650/s2-liplianin/v4l' perl
TT-Connect S2 -3650 CI and a Pinnacle PCTV Dual Sat Pro PCI 4000I
First of all : Hi :) . It seems i own the two not working DVB-S Devices. Its a TT-Connect S2 -3650 CI and a Pinnacle PCTV Dual Sat Pro PCI 4000I. Is there any chance to get one of them working. I use Gentoo with the 2.6.29- gentoo-r5 kernel. Regards Chris -- -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Christian Heidingsfelder Heidingsfelder + Partner Kirchgasse 9 72474 Winterlingen-Benzingen Tel: +49 7577 933864 Fax: +49 7577 933863 christ...@heidingsfelder.eu DE -- *** Diese eMailadresse ist keine Zustelladresse. Aus technischen Gruenden kann ich Ihre eMail nicht sofort nach Eingang darauf überpruefen, ob sie Fristen oder Termine enthaelt. Daher uebernehme ich keine Gewaehr, daß Ihre Nachricht so rechtzeitig gelesen wird, daß alle zur Einhaltung von etwaigen Fristen oder Terminen notwendigen Massnahmen ergriffen werden koennen. Bitte uebermitteln Sie solche Schriftstuecke per Fax oder Brief an die weiter obenstehende Anschrift. *** Hiermit widerspreche ich ausdruecklich jeglicher Nutzung oder Uebermittlung meiner Daten, gleichgueltig, zu welchen Zwecken oder an welchen Empfaenger sie erfolgt. Insbesondere widerspreche ich der Nutzung oder Uebermittlung meiner Daten fuer Werbe, Markt- oder Meinungsforschungszwecken gemaess § 28 Absatz 3 Bundesdatenschutzgesetz. *** Sicherheitshinweis: Wie Sie wissen, können eMails missbräuchlich unter fremden Namen erstellt oder verändert werden. Aus diesem Grunde bitte ich um Verständnis dafür, daß ich zu Ihrem und meinem Schutz die rechtliche Verbindlichkeit der in dieser eMail gemachten Erklärungen ausschliessen muß. Diese Regelung gilt nur dann nicht, wenn ich mit Ihnen eine anderweitige schriftliche Vereinbarung über die Einhaltung von Sicherheits- und Verschlüsselungstandards getroffen habe. *** Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata. (Falls dieser umherreisende Brief, der in unsichere Winde entsendet, aber Gott anvertraut wurde, zufällig in fremde Hände geraten ist, so bitte ich, dass er dem gegeben werde, an wen allein er gerichtet ist, und dass niemand ihn stiehlt, für den er nicht gemacht ist.) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
