Re: boot slow down

2012-08-13 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Hi Andy,

Em 11-08-2012 21:06, Andy Walls escreveu:
 On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 13:18 -0400, bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 How hard would it be to get an official kernel option not to load firmware
 
 Submit a patch for the cx23885 driver to the list.  It could add a
 module option so the user can specify not to load cx23885-av firmware
 (and maybe CX23417 firmware too).  The new module option could be set on
 your kernel commandline: cx23885.no_firmware_load=1

No, adding a parameter there is not right: it is not an user option to not
do firmware load during module init; it is a requirement for a driver to
work with newer userspace tools.

There are two situations there:

1) for devices where the firmware is inside an I2C driver, the solution
is to simply not load the firmware during module probing.

The easiest do to that is to call request_firmware_nowait() during module
probing. This call will start a deferred work that will use a callback
to warn the driver when the firmware is loaded.

If you want an example, please see: 61a96113de51e1f8f43ac98cbeadb54e60045905.
While I intend to do the same on other drivers as I have some spare time,
please don't wait for me on that, as I'm not with much spare time those
days.

You'll likely need to add a status flag at all drivers callback, that would
return a temporary error indication like -EAGAIN (or -ERESTARTSYS) and maybe
change the drivers to handle such error code.

2) for drivers where the firmware is needed for the bridge driver to work,
I couldn't find a perfect solution. There are two alternatives there:

a) patch the drivers base in order to improve the deferred probe. Currently,
a deferred probe will only be called again if a new device driver is probing.
It would make sense to add some way to make it do the probe after a while.

b) lie to probe(), returning 0 before probing the driver, and run a deferred 
probe inside the driver, in order to load the firmware and run the real probing
code.

Regards,
Mauro


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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-12 Thread Ezequiel Garcia
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Andy Walls awa...@md.metrocast.net wrote:
 On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 13:18 -0400, bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 How hard would it be to get an official kernel option not to load firmware

 Submit a patch for the cx23885 driver to the list.  It could add a
 module option so the user can specify not to load cx23885-av firmware
 (and maybe CX23417 firmware too).  The new module option could be set on
 your kernel commandline: cx23885.no_firmware_load=1

 Honestly though such a patch problably won't fly.  The real solution,
 that the cx23885 driver needs anyway, is to inhibit the load of all
 firmware during the device probe by the kernel, and load them on the
 first device open (like the ivtv and cx18 drivers do for analog).

 There are at least 2 places in the PCI device probe routine of the
 cx23885 driver, where firmware is requested.  Here is the call chain:

 cx23885_initdev()
 cx23885_dev_setup()
 cx23885_card_setup()
 v4l2_subdev_call(dev-sd_cx25840, core, load_fw);
 cx25840_load_fw()
 cx23885_initialize()
 cx25840_work_handler()
 cx25840_loadfw()
 
 request_firmware()
 cx23885_417_register()
 cx23885_initialize_codec()
 cx23885_load_firmware()
 request_firmware()

 The calls to
 v4l2_subdev_call(dev-sd_cx25840, core, load_fw);

This one should be really easy, right?
The subdev can be created on probe and then the call to load_fw
can be done on first open.

It is remarkable this is documented in a comment placed just above
cx25840_load_fw:

Since loading the firmware is often problematic when the driver is
 compiled into the kernel I recommend postponing calling this function
 until the first open of the video device. Another reason for
 postponing it is that loading this firmware takes a long time (seconds)
 due to the slow i2c bus speed. So it will speed up the boot process if
 you can avoid loading the fw as long as the video device isn't used.

If you want to, I can try that patch. Of course, someone must commit
to test it.

Regards,
Ezequiel.
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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-11 Thread Sakari Ailus
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 01:18:33PM -0400, bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 
 How hard would it be to get an official kernel option not to load firmware
 OR be able to set the timeout?

I think the right solution is that the failure of the user space program
that is expected to load the firmware is considered as such, so the error
could be returned by request_firmware() immediately. There could be reasons
why it behaves the way it does currently as I don't know the details.

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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-11 Thread Andy Walls
On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 13:18 -0400, bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 How hard would it be to get an official kernel option not to load firmware

Submit a patch for the cx23885 driver to the list.  It could add a
module option so the user can specify not to load cx23885-av firmware
(and maybe CX23417 firmware too).  The new module option could be set on
your kernel commandline: cx23885.no_firmware_load=1

Honestly though such a patch problably won't fly.  The real solution,
that the cx23885 driver needs anyway, is to inhibit the load of all
firmware during the device probe by the kernel, and load them on the
first device open (like the ivtv and cx18 drivers do for analog).

There are at least 2 places in the PCI device probe routine of the
cx23885 driver, where firmware is requested.  Here is the call chain:

cx23885_initdev()
cx23885_dev_setup()
cx23885_card_setup()
v4l2_subdev_call(dev-sd_cx25840, core, load_fw);
cx25840_load_fw()
cx23885_initialize()
cx25840_work_handler()
cx25840_loadfw()

request_firmware()  
cx23885_417_register()
cx23885_initialize_codec()
cx23885_load_firmware()
request_firmware()

The calls to 
v4l2_subdev_call(dev-sd_cx25840, core, load_fw);
and
cx23885_417_register() (or cx23885_initialize_codec())

really need to be deferred to comply with new udev requirements for
driver behavior.

 OR be able to set the timeout?

That would probably be harder politically, even if the code were not
harder.  No driver is supposed to be loading firmware during its device
probes. Once userspace is up, /sys/class/firmware/timeout can be
manipulated very early, before any device would be requesting firmware. 

Regards,
Andy

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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-08 Thread bjlockie

How hard would it be to get an official kernel option not to load firmware
OR be able to set the timeout?


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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-07 Thread Sakari Ailus
Hi James,

On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 12:38:51AM -0400, James wrote:
 On 08/05/12 17:20, Sakari Ailus wrote:
  Hi Andy and James,
  
  On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 06:28:19PM -0400, James wrote:
  On 08/04/12 13:42, Andy Walls wrote:
  James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 
  There's a big pause before the 'unable'
 
  [2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
  [   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
  v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
 
 
  I have a cx23885
  cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]
 
  Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
  What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and analog is
  useless to me.
  I assume it is timing out there.
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  The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g. BTSC) 
  detection microcontroller.
 
  The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and audio 
  processing (broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).
 
  The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video PLL 
  provides the timing for the IR unit.
 
  The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the timing 
  for the IR unit in the CX23888.
 
  Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time with trying 
  to make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.
 
  Regards,
  Andy
 
  I already have the firmware.
  # ls -l /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw 
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16382 Oct 15  2011 
  /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
  
  The timeout if for allowing the user space helper enough time to provide the
  driver with the firmware, but it seems the helper isn't around as the
  timeout expires. Is udev running around the time of the first line? Is the
  driver linked directly into the kernel or is it a module?
  
  Kind regards,
  
 I have this set so the firmware is in the kernel.
 
 Symbol: FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL [=y]

I don't know about that driver, but if the udev would have to provide the
firmware, and it's not running, the delay is expected. Two seconds after
kernel startup is so early that the user space, including udev, might not
yet be running.

Kind regards,

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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-07 Thread bjlockie
 Hi James,

 On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 12:38:51AM -0400, James wrote:
 On 08/05/12 17:20, Sakari Ailus wrote:
  Hi Andy and James,
 
  On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 06:28:19PM -0400, James wrote:
  On 08/04/12 13:42, Andy Walls wrote:
  James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 
  There's a big pause before the 'unable'
 
  [2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
  [   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
  v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
 
 
  I have a cx23885
  cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]
 
  Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
  What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and analog
 is
  useless to me.
  I assume it is timing out there.
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  The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g. BTSC)
 detection microcontroller.
 
  The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and audio
 processing (broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).
 
  The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video PLL
 provides the timing for the IR unit.
 
  The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the
 timing for the IR unit in the CX23888.
 
  Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time with
 trying to make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.
 
  Regards,
  Andy
 
  I already have the firmware.
  # ls -l /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16382 Oct 15  2011
 /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
 
  The timeout if for allowing the user space helper enough time to
 provide the
  driver with the firmware, but it seems the helper isn't around as the
  timeout expires. Is udev running around the time of the first line? Is
 the
  driver linked directly into the kernel or is it a module?
 
  Kind regards,
 
 I have this set so the firmware is in the kernel.

 Symbol: FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL [=y]

 I don't know about that driver, but if the udev would have to provide the
 firmware, and it's not running, the delay is expected. Two seconds after
 kernel startup is so early that the user space, including udev, might not
 yet be running.

 Kind regards,

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Doesn't that kernel option mean the firmware is put into the kernel at
kernel build time?

If I build the module, is there a module option to skip the delay?

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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-07 Thread Andy Walls
bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

 Hi James,

 On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 12:38:51AM -0400, James wrote:
 On 08/05/12 17:20, Sakari Ailus wrote:
  Hi Andy and James,
 
  On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 06:28:19PM -0400, James wrote:
  On 08/04/12 13:42, Andy Walls wrote:
  James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 
  There's a big pause before the 'unable'
 
  [2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
  [   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
  v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
 
 
  I have a cx23885
  cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]
 
  Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
  What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and
analog
 is
  useless to me.
  I assume it is timing out there.
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  The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g.
BTSC)
 detection microcontroller.
 
  The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and
audio
 processing (broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).
 
  The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video
PLL
 provides the timing for the IR unit.
 
  The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the
 timing for the IR unit in the CX23888.
 
  Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time
with
 trying to make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.
 
  Regards,
  Andy
 
  I already have the firmware.
  # ls -l /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16382 Oct 15  2011
 /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
 
  The timeout if for allowing the user space helper enough time to
 provide the
  driver with the firmware, but it seems the helper isn't around as
the
  timeout expires. Is udev running around the time of the first
line? Is
 the
  driver linked directly into the kernel or is it a module?
 
  Kind regards,
 
 I have this set so the firmware is in the kernel.

 Symbol: FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL [=y]

 I don't know about that driver, but if the udev would have to provide
the
 firmware, and it's not running, the delay is expected. Two seconds
after
 kernel startup is so early that the user space, including udev, might
not
 yet be running.

 Kind regards,

 --
 Sakari Ailus
 e-mail: sakari.ai...@iki.fi  jabber/XMPP/Gmail: sai...@retiisi.org.uk

Doesn't that kernel option mean the firmware is put into the kernel at
kernel build time?

If I build the module, is there a module option to skip the delay?


Hi,

The CX2388x firmware is _never_ built into the kernel.  I'm not sure what that 
particular kernel config option is for.

The kernel delay waiting for userspace to load firmware is settable using a 
node under /sys somewhere. The default is 60 seconds.  You will have to change 
it in very early boot, or fix the hardcoded constant in the kernel and 
recompile your kernel.

Shortening the delay may not get you entirely acceptable results.  If udev is 
not, or is refusing to load firmware for the cx25840 module, then that module 
will not properly initialize the CX23885/7/8 A/V core hardware and will likely 
return with failure.  I'm not sure if the cx23885 driver will happily continue 
on, if that happens.

If you still have a modular kernel build around, you may wish to test with it.  
Blacklist the cx23885 module in /etc/modprobe.conf and the use udevadm to 
investigate what is going on with udev when you later modprobe the cx23885 
driver. 

If building the video card driver into the kernel is causing you all the 
problems, then I simply recommend not doing that.

Regards,
Andy
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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-07 Thread bjlockie
 bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

 Hi James,

 On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 12:38:51AM -0400, James wrote:
 On 08/05/12 17:20, Sakari Ailus wrote:
  Hi Andy and James,
 
  On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 06:28:19PM -0400, James wrote:
  On 08/04/12 13:42, Andy Walls wrote:
  James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 
  There's a big pause before the 'unable'
 
  [2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
  [   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
  v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
 
 
  I have a cx23885
  cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]
 
  Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
  What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and
analog
 is
  useless to me.
  I assume it is timing out there.
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  The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g.
BTSC)
 detection microcontroller.
 
  The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and
audio
 processing (broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).
 
  The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video
PLL
 provides the timing for the IR unit.
 
  The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the
 timing for the IR unit in the CX23888.
 
  Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time
with
 trying to make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.
 
  Regards,
  Andy
 
  I already have the firmware.
  # ls -l /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16382 Oct 15  2011
 /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
 
  The timeout if for allowing the user space helper enough time to
 provide the
  driver with the firmware, but it seems the helper isn't around as
the
  timeout expires. Is udev running around the time of the first
line? Is
 the
  driver linked directly into the kernel or is it a module?
 
  Kind regards,
 
 I have this set so the firmware is in the kernel.

 Symbol: FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL [=y]

 I don't know about that driver, but if the udev would have to provide
the
 firmware, and it's not running, the delay is expected. Two seconds
after
 kernel startup is so early that the user space, including udev, might
not
 yet be running.

 Kind regards,

 --
 Sakari Ailus
 e-mail: sakari.ai...@iki.fi jabber/XMPP/Gmail: sai...@retiisi.org.uk

Doesn't that kernel option mean the firmware is put into the kernel at
kernel build time?

If I build the module, is there a module option to skip the delay?


 Hi,

 The CX2388x firmware is _never_ built into the kernel.  I'm not sure what
 that particular kernel config option is for.

 The kernel delay waiting for userspace to load firmware is settable using
 a node under /sys somewhere. The default is 60 seconds.  You will have to
 change it in very early boot, or fix the hardcoded constant in the kernel
 and recompile your kernel.

 Shortening the delay may not get you entirely acceptable results.  If udev
 is not, or is refusing to load firmware for the cx25840 module, then that
 module will not properly initialize the CX23885/7/8 A/V core hardware and
 will likely return with failure.  I'm not sure if the cx23885 driver will
 happily continue on, if that happens.

It works fine even though it times out.


 If you still have a modular kernel build around, you may wish to test with
 it.  Blacklist the cx23885 module in /etc/modprobe.conf and the use
 udevadm to investigate what is going on with udev when you later modprobe
 the cx23885 driver.

 If building the video card driver into the kernel is causing you all the
 problems, then I simply recommend not doing that.

I'll try it as a module.


 Regards,
 Andy
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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-07 Thread James
On 08/07/12 09:53, Andy Walls wrote:
 bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 
 Hi James,

 On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 12:38:51AM -0400, James wrote:
 On 08/05/12 17:20, Sakari Ailus wrote:
 Hi Andy and James,

 On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 06:28:19PM -0400, James wrote:
 On 08/04/12 13:42, Andy Walls wrote:
 James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

 There's a big pause before the 'unable'

 [2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
 [   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
 v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


 I have a cx23885
 cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]

 Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
 What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and
 analog
 is
 useless to me.
 I assume it is timing out there.
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 The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g.
 BTSC)
 detection microcontroller.

 The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and
 audio
 processing (broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).

 The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video
 PLL
 provides the timing for the IR unit.

 The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the
 timing for the IR unit in the CX23888.

 Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time
 with
 trying to make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.

 Regards,
 Andy

 I already have the firmware.
 # ls -l /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16382 Oct 15  2011
 /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw

 The timeout if for allowing the user space helper enough time to
 provide the
 driver with the firmware, but it seems the helper isn't around as
 the
 timeout expires. Is udev running around the time of the first
 line? Is
 the
 driver linked directly into the kernel or is it a module?

 Kind regards,

 I have this set so the firmware is in the kernel.

 Symbol: FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL [=y]

 I don't know about that driver, but if the udev would have to provide
 the
 firmware, and it's not running, the delay is expected. Two seconds
 after
 kernel startup is so early that the user space, including udev, might
 not
 yet be running.

 Kind regards,

 --
 Sakari Ailus
 e-mail: sakari.ai...@iki.fi jabber/XMPP/Gmail: sai...@retiisi.org.uk

 Doesn't that kernel option mean the firmware is put into the kernel at
 kernel build time?

 If I build the module, is there a module option to skip the delay?
 
 
 Hi,
 
 The CX2388x firmware is _never_ built into the kernel.  I'm not sure what 
 that particular kernel config option is for.
 
 The kernel delay waiting for userspace to load firmware is settable using a 
 node under /sys somewhere. The default is 60 seconds.  You will have to 
 change it in very early boot, or fix the hardcoded constant in the kernel and 
 recompile your kernel.
 
 Shortening the delay may not get you entirely acceptable results.  If udev is 
 not, or is refusing to load firmware for the cx25840 module, then that module 
 will not properly initialize the CX23885/7/8 A/V core hardware and will 
 likely return with failure.  I'm not sure if the cx23885 driver will happily 
 continue on, if that happens.
 
 If you still have a modular kernel build around, you may wish to test with 
 it.  Blacklist the cx23885 module in /etc/modprobe.conf and the use udevadm 
 to investigate what is going on with udev when you later modprobe the cx23885 
 driver. 
 
 If building the video card driver into the kernel is causing you all the 
 problems, then I simply recommend not doing that.
 
 Regards,
 Andy

I make it a module and I ran into more problems.
It seemed to load the firmware but Kaffeine says there is no video device.

http://pastebin.com/ABVWVrma

It seems to print a lot.
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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-07 Thread James
On 08/07/12 16:33, bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

 Hi James,

 On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 12:38:51AM -0400, James wrote:
 On 08/05/12 17:20, Sakari Ailus wrote:
 Hi Andy and James,

 On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 06:28:19PM -0400, James wrote:
 On 08/04/12 13:42, Andy Walls wrote:
 James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

 There's a big pause before the 'unable'

 [2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
 [   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
 v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


 I have a cx23885
 cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]

 Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
 What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and
 analog
 is
 useless to me.
 I assume it is timing out there.
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 The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g.
 BTSC)
 detection microcontroller.

 The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and
 audio
 processing (broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).

 The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video
 PLL
 provides the timing for the IR unit.

 The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the
 timing for the IR unit in the CX23888.

 Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time
 with
 trying to make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.

 Regards,
 Andy

 I already have the firmware.
 # ls -l /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16382 Oct 15  2011
 /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw

 The timeout if for allowing the user space helper enough time to
 provide the
 driver with the firmware, but it seems the helper isn't around as
 the
 timeout expires. Is udev running around the time of the first
 line? Is
 the
 driver linked directly into the kernel or is it a module?

 Kind regards,

 I have this set so the firmware is in the kernel.

 Symbol: FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL [=y]

 I don't know about that driver, but if the udev would have to provide
 the
 firmware, and it's not running, the delay is expected. Two seconds
 after
 kernel startup is so early that the user space, including udev, might
 not
 yet be running.

 Kind regards,

 --
 Sakari Ailus
 e-mail: sakari.ai...@iki.fijabber/XMPP/Gmail: sai...@retiisi.org.uk

 Doesn't that kernel option mean the firmware is put into the kernel at
 kernel build time?

 If I build the module, is there a module option to skip the delay?


 Hi,

 The CX2388x firmware is _never_ built into the kernel.  I'm not sure what
 that particular kernel config option is for.

 The kernel delay waiting for userspace to load firmware is settable using
 a node under /sys somewhere. The default is 60 seconds.  You will have to
 change it in very early boot, or fix the hardcoded constant in the kernel
 and recompile your kernel.

 Shortening the delay may not get you entirely acceptable results.  If udev
 is not, or is refusing to load firmware for the cx25840 module, then that
 module will not properly initialize the CX23885/7/8 A/V core hardware and
 will likely return with failure.  I'm not sure if the cx23885 driver will
 happily continue on, if that happens.
 
 It works fine even though it times out.
 

 If you still have a modular kernel build around, you may wish to test with
 it.  Blacklist the cx23885 module in /etc/modprobe.conf and the use
 udevadm to investigate what is going on with udev when you later modprobe
 the cx23885 driver.

 If building the video card driver into the kernel is causing you all the
 problems, then I simply recommend not doing that.
 
 I'll try it as a module.
 

 Regards,
 Andy

This is what I tried before.
It implies that I shouldn't need user space.

  ┌─── Include in-kernel firmware blobs in kernel binary ───┐
  │ CONFIG_FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL:  │  
  │ │  
  │ The kernel source tree includes a number of firmware 'blobs'│  
  │ that are used by various drivers. The recommended way to│  
  │ use these is to run make firmware_install, which, after   │  
  │ converting ihex files to binary, copies all of the needed   │  
  │ binary files in firmware/ to /lib/firmware/ on your system so   │  
  │ that they can be loaded by userspace helpers on request.│  
  │ │  
  │ Enabling this option will build each required firmware blob │  
  │ into the kernel directly, where request_firmware() will find│  
  │ them without having to call out to userspace. This may be   │  
  │ useful if your root file system requires a device that uses │  
  │ such 

Re: boot slow down

2012-08-07 Thread James
On 08/07/12 17:42, James wrote:
 On 08/07/12 16:33, bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

 Hi James,

 On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 12:38:51AM -0400, James wrote:
 On 08/05/12 17:20, Sakari Ailus wrote:
 Hi Andy and James,

 On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 06:28:19PM -0400, James wrote:
 On 08/04/12 13:42, Andy Walls wrote:
 James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

 There's a big pause before the 'unable'

 [2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
 [   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
 v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


 I have a cx23885
 cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]

 Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
 What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and
 analog
 is
 useless to me.
 I assume it is timing out there.
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 The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g.
 BTSC)
 detection microcontroller.

 The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and
 audio
 processing (broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).

 The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video
 PLL
 provides the timing for the IR unit.

 The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the
 timing for the IR unit in the CX23888.

 Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time
 with
 trying to make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.

 Regards,
 Andy

 I already have the firmware.
 # ls -l /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16382 Oct 15  2011
 /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw

 The timeout if for allowing the user space helper enough time to
 provide the
 driver with the firmware, but it seems the helper isn't around as
 the
 timeout expires. Is udev running around the time of the first
 line? Is
 the
 driver linked directly into the kernel or is it a module?

 Kind regards,

 I have this set so the firmware is in the kernel.

 Symbol: FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL [=y]

 I don't know about that driver, but if the udev would have to provide
 the
 firmware, and it's not running, the delay is expected. Two seconds
 after
 kernel startup is so early that the user space, including udev, might
 not
 yet be running.

 Kind regards,

 --
 Sakari Ailus
 e-mail: sakari.ai...@iki.fi   jabber/XMPP/Gmail: sai...@retiisi.org.uk

 Doesn't that kernel option mean the firmware is put into the kernel at
 kernel build time?

 If I build the module, is there a module option to skip the delay?


 Hi,

 The CX2388x firmware is _never_ built into the kernel.  I'm not sure what
 that particular kernel config option is for.

 The kernel delay waiting for userspace to load firmware is settable using
 a node under /sys somewhere. The default is 60 seconds.  You will have to
 change it in very early boot, or fix the hardcoded constant in the kernel
 and recompile your kernel.

 Shortening the delay may not get you entirely acceptable results.  If udev
 is not, or is refusing to load firmware for the cx25840 module, then that
 module will not properly initialize the CX23885/7/8 A/V core hardware and
 will likely return with failure.  I'm not sure if the cx23885 driver will
 happily continue on, if that happens.

 It works fine even though it times out.


 If you still have a modular kernel build around, you may wish to test with
 it.  Blacklist the cx23885 module in /etc/modprobe.conf and the use
 udevadm to investigate what is going on with udev when you later modprobe
 the cx23885 driver.

 If building the video card driver into the kernel is causing you all the
 problems, then I simply recommend not doing that.

 I'll try it as a module.


 Regards,
 Andy
 
 This is what I tried before.
 It implies that I shouldn't need user space.
 
   ┌─── Include in-kernel firmware blobs in kernel binary ───┐
   │ CONFIG_FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL:  │ 
  
   │ │ 
  
   │ The kernel source tree includes a number of firmware 'blobs'│ 
  
   │ that are used by various drivers. The recommended way to│ 
  
   │ use these is to run make firmware_install, which, after   │ 
  
   │ converting ihex files to binary, copies all of the needed   │ 
  
   │ binary files in firmware/ to /lib/firmware/ on your system so   │ 
  
   │ that they can be loaded by userspace helpers on request.│ 
  
   │ │ 
  
   │ Enabling this option will build each required firmware blob │ 
  
   │ into the kernel directly, where request_firmware() will find│ 
  
   │ them without having to call out to userspace. This may be   │ 
  
   │ useful if your root 

Re: boot slow down

2012-08-06 Thread Andy Walls
James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

On 08/04/12 13:42, Andy Walls wrote:
 James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 
 There's a big pause before the 'unable'

 [2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
 [   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
 v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


 I have a cx23885
 cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]

 Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
 What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and analog
is
 useless to me.
 I assume it is timing out there.
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 The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g. BTSC)
detection microcontroller.
 
 The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and audio
processing (broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).
 
 The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video PLL
provides the timing for the IR unit.
 
 The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the
timing for the IR unit in the CX23888.
 
 Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time with
trying to make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.
 
 Regards,
 Andy

I already have the firmware.
# ls -l /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw 
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16382 Oct 15  2011
/lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


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Hmm.  The firmware file size and location look right.

The 60 second delay is the default kernel delay waiting for the userspace 
firmware loader to fetch th file amd provide it to the kernel via sysfs.

That doesn't appear to be happening.  I know udev runs some script to 
accomplish that.  I'm away from my development system, so I can't investigate 
further.

Regards,
Andy
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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-06 Thread Antti Palosaari

On 08/06/2012 11:37 AM, Andy Walls wrote:

James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:


On 08/04/12 13:42, Andy Walls wrote:

James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:


There's a big pause before the 'unable'

[2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
[   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


I have a cx23885
cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]

Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and analog

is

useless to me.
I assume it is timing out there.
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The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g. BTSC)

detection microcontroller.


The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and audio

processing (broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).


The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video PLL

provides the timing for the IR unit.


The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the

timing for the IR unit in the CX23888.


Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time with

trying to make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.


Regards,
Andy


I already have the firmware.
# ls -l /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16382 Oct 15  2011
/lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


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Hmm.  The firmware file size and location look right.

The 60 second delay is the default kernel delay waiting for the userspace 
firmware loader to fetch th file amd provide it to the kernel via sysfs.

That doesn't appear to be happening.  I know udev runs some script to 
accomplish that.  I'm away from my development system, so I can't investigate 
further.

Regards,
Andy


I suspect it could be the firmware download issue with udev. Recent udev 
versions doesn't allow firmware download during module init path as 
module init should not be blocked such long period.


I did quite much work for resolving that issue for the dvb usb by 
deferring device init in probe using work-queue. It is not good looking 
solution and Mauro is still trying to found out more general solution.


regards
Antti

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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-06 Thread Andy Walls
Antti Palosaari cr...@iki.fi wrote:

On 08/06/2012 11:37 AM, Andy Walls wrote:
 James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

 On 08/04/12 13:42, Andy Walls wrote:
 James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

 There's a big pause before the 'unable'

 [2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
 [   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
 v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


 I have a cx23885
 cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]

 Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
 What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and analog
 is
 useless to me.
 I assume it is timing out there.
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 The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g. BTSC)
 detection microcontroller.

 The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and audio
 processing (broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).

 The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video PLL
 provides the timing for the IR unit.

 The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the
 timing for the IR unit in the CX23888.

 Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time with
 trying to make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.

 Regards,
 Andy

 I already have the firmware.
 # ls -l /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16382 Oct 15  2011
 /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


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 Hmm.  The firmware file size and location look right.

 The 60 second delay is the default kernel delay waiting for the
userspace firmware loader to fetch th file amd provide it to the kernel
via sysfs.

 That doesn't appear to be happening.  I know udev runs some script to
accomplish that.  I'm away from my development system, so I can't
investigate further.

 Regards,
 Andy

I suspect it could be the firmware download issue with udev. Recent
udev 
versions doesn't allow firmware download during module init path as 
module init should not be blocked such long period.

I did quite much work for resolving that issue for the dvb usb by 
deferring device init in probe using work-queue. It is not good looking

solution and Mauro is still trying to found out more general solution.

regards
Antti

-- 
http://palosaari.fi/

So the cx25840 module scheduling the firmware load to be done by a worker 
thread is not enough to satisfy the new udev rule?

http://git.linuxtv.org/media_tree.git/blob/staging/for_v3.7:/drivers/media/video/cx25840/cx25840-core.c#l628

Regards,
Andy
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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-06 Thread Antti Palosaari

On 08/06/2012 01:57 PM, Andy Walls wrote:

Antti Palosaari cr...@iki.fi wrote:


On 08/06/2012 11:37 AM, Andy Walls wrote:

James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:


On 08/04/12 13:42, Andy Walls wrote:

James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:


There's a big pause before the 'unable'

[2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
[   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


I have a cx23885
cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]

Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and analog

is

useless to me.
I assume it is timing out there.
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The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g. BTSC)

detection microcontroller.


The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and audio

processing (broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).


The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video PLL

provides the timing for the IR unit.


The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the

timing for the IR unit in the CX23888.


Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time with

trying to make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.


Regards,
Andy


I already have the firmware.
# ls -l /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16382 Oct 15  2011
/lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


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Hmm.  The firmware file size and location look right.

The 60 second delay is the default kernel delay waiting for the

userspace firmware loader to fetch th file amd provide it to the kernel
via sysfs.


That doesn't appear to be happening.  I know udev runs some script to

accomplish that.  I'm away from my development system, so I can't
investigate further.


Regards,
Andy


I suspect it could be the firmware download issue with udev. Recent
udev
versions doesn't allow firmware download during module init path as
module init should not be blocked such long period.

I did quite much work for resolving that issue for the dvb usb by
deferring device init in probe using work-queue. It is not good looking

solution and Mauro is still trying to found out more general solution.

regards
Antti

--
http://palosaari.fi/


So the cx25840 module scheduling the firmware load to be done by a worker 
thread is not enough to satisfy the new udev rule?

http://git.linuxtv.org/media_tree.git/blob/staging/for_v3.7:/drivers/media/video/cx25840/cx25840-core.c#l628

Regards,
Andy


If it blocks module init, or probe which is called in module init 
context, it timeouts by udev when request_firmware() is called.


There seems to be workqueue, but I am not enough familiar with cx25840 
driver to say how code path actually runs.


I suspect cx25840_initialize() will not return until firmware is loaded? 
And that function is called when module is loaded?


regards
Antti


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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-05 Thread Sakari Ailus
Hi Andy and James,

On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 06:28:19PM -0400, James wrote:
 On 08/04/12 13:42, Andy Walls wrote:
  James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
  
  There's a big pause before the 'unable'
 
  [2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
  [   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
  v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
 
 
  I have a cx23885
  cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]
 
  Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
  What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and analog is
  useless to me.
  I assume it is timing out there.
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  The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g. BTSC) 
  detection microcontroller.
  
  The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and audio 
  processing (broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).
  
  The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video PLL provides 
  the timing for the IR unit.
  
  The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the timing for 
  the IR unit in the CX23888.
  
  Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time with trying 
  to make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.
  
  Regards,
  Andy
 
 I already have the firmware.
 # ls -l /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw 
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16382 Oct 15  2011 
 /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw

The timeout if for allowing the user space helper enough time to provide the
driver with the firmware, but it seems the helper isn't around as the
timeout expires. Is udev running around the time of the first line? Is the
driver linked directly into the kernel or is it a module?

Kind regards,

-- 
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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-05 Thread James
On 08/05/12 17:20, Sakari Ailus wrote:
 Hi Andy and James,
 
 On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 06:28:19PM -0400, James wrote:
 On 08/04/12 13:42, Andy Walls wrote:
 James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

 There's a big pause before the 'unable'

 [2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
 [   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
 v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


 I have a cx23885
 cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]

 Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
 What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and analog is
 useless to me.
 I assume it is timing out there.
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 The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g. BTSC) 
 detection microcontroller.

 The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and audio 
 processing (broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).

 The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video PLL provides 
 the timing for the IR unit.

 The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the timing for 
 the IR unit in the CX23888.

 Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time with trying 
 to make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.

 Regards,
 Andy

 I already have the firmware.
 # ls -l /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw 
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16382 Oct 15  2011 
 /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
 
 The timeout if for allowing the user space helper enough time to provide the
 driver with the firmware, but it seems the helper isn't around as the
 timeout expires. Is udev running around the time of the first line? Is the
 driver linked directly into the kernel or is it a module?
 
 Kind regards,
 

I don't have any modules.
udev should be running.
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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-05 Thread James
On 08/05/12 17:20, Sakari Ailus wrote:
 Hi Andy and James,
 
 On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 06:28:19PM -0400, James wrote:
 On 08/04/12 13:42, Andy Walls wrote:
 James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

 There's a big pause before the 'unable'

 [2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
 [   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
 v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


 I have a cx23885
 cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]

 Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
 What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and analog is
 useless to me.
 I assume it is timing out there.
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 The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g. BTSC) 
 detection microcontroller.

 The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and audio 
 processing (broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).

 The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video PLL provides 
 the timing for the IR unit.

 The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the timing for 
 the IR unit in the CX23888.

 Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time with trying 
 to make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.

 Regards,
 Andy

 I already have the firmware.
 # ls -l /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw 
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16382 Oct 15  2011 
 /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
 
 The timeout if for allowing the user space helper enough time to provide the
 driver with the firmware, but it seems the helper isn't around as the
 timeout expires. Is udev running around the time of the first line? Is the
 driver linked directly into the kernel or is it a module?
 
 Kind regards,
 
I have this set so the firmware is in the kernel.

Symbol: FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL [=y]

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boot slow down

2012-08-04 Thread James
There's a big pause before the 'unable'

[2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
[   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


I have a cx23885
cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]

Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and analog is useless 
to me.
I assume it is timing out there.
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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-04 Thread Ezequiel Garcia
Hello James,

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 12:52 PM, James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 There's a big pause before the 'unable'

 [2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
 [   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware 
 v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


 I have a cx23885
 cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]

 Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
 What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and analog is useless 
 to me.


I'm not sure what that firmware is for, but if you're certain you don't need it
then I'd suggest you try to blacklist cx25840 module, or just erase it.

This way cx23885 won't be able to load cx25840, and therefore the load
the firmware.
(I  think cx23885 won't fail to load if cx25840 is not available).

 I assume it is timing out there.


I guess that the firmware file is not present, could you check that?.
In that case, why is not present?

Hope this helps,
Ezequiel.
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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-04 Thread Andy Walls
James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

There's a big pause before the 'unable'

[2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
[   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


I have a cx23885
cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]

Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and analog is
useless to me.
I assume it is timing out there.
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The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g. BTSC) detection 
microcontroller.

The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and audio processing 
(broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).

The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video PLL provides the 
timing for the IR unit.

The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the timing for the 
IR unit in the CX23888.

Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time with trying to 
make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.

Regards,
Andy
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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-04 Thread James
On 08/04/12 13:42, Andy Walls wrote:
 James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 
 There's a big pause before the 'unable'

 [2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
 [   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
 v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


 I have a cx23885
 cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]

 Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
 What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and analog is
 useless to me.
 I assume it is timing out there.
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 The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g. BTSC) detection 
 microcontroller.
 
 The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and audio 
 processing (broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).
 
 The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video PLL provides 
 the timing for the IR unit.
 
 The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the timing for 
 the IR unit in the CX23888.
 
 Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time with trying to 
 make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.
 
 Regards,
 Andy
 
I will do that.
It has been available since 2011 but there was no slowdown before.
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Re: boot slow down

2012-08-04 Thread James
On 08/04/12 13:42, Andy Walls wrote:
 James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 
 There's a big pause before the 'unable'

 [2.243856] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
 [   62.739097] cx25840 6-0044: unable to open firmware
 v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


 I have a cx23885
 cx23885[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]

 Is there any way to stop it from trying to load the firmware?
 What is the firmware for, analog tv? Digital works fine and analog is
 useless to me.
 I assume it is timing out there.
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 The firmware is for the analog broadcast audio standard (e.g. BTSC) detection 
 microcontroller.
 
 The A/V core of the CX23885/7/8 chips is for analog vidoe and audio 
 processing (broadcast, CVBS, SVideo, audio L/R in).
 
 The A/V core of the CX23885 provides the IR unit and the Video PLL provides 
 the timing for the IR unit.
 
 The A/V core of the CX23888 provides the Video PLL which is the timing for 
 the IR unit in the CX23888.
 
 Just grab the firmware and be done with it.  Don't waste time with trying to 
 make the cx23885 working properly but halfway.
 
 Regards,
 Andy

I already have the firmware.
# ls -l /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw 
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16382 Oct 15  2011 /lib/firmware/v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw


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