Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] of/clk: use clkops-clocks to specify clocks handled by clock_ops domain

2014-12-12 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Grygorii,

I've found this mail deep inside my inbox :-)

On Wednesday 30 July 2014 16:25:31 Grygorii Strashko wrote:
 On 07/30/2014 03:06 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
  On Monday 28 July 2014 23:52:34 Grant Likely wrote:
  On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
  On 07/28/2014 05:05 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
  On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:53:43 +0300, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
  Use clkops-clocks property to specify clocks handled by
  clock_ops domain PM domain. Only clocks defined in clkops-clocks
  set of clocks will be handled by Runtime PM through clock_ops
  Pm domain.
  
  Signed-off-by: Grygorii Strashko grygorii.stras...@ti.com
  ---
  
 drivers/of/of_clk.c |7 ++-
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
  
  diff --git a/drivers/of/of_clk.c b/drivers/of/of_clk.c
  index 35f5e9f..5f9b90e 100644
  --- a/drivers/of/of_clk.c
  +++ b/drivers/of/of_clk.c
  @@ -86,11 +86,8 @@ int of_clk_register_runtime_pm_clocks(struct
  device_node *np,
  
struct clk *clk;
int error;
  
  -for (i = 0; (clk = of_clk_get(np, i))  !IS_ERR(clk); i++) {
  -if (!clk_may_runtime_pm(clk)) {
  -clk_put(clk);
  -continue;
  -}
  +for (i = 0; (clk = of_clk_get_from_set(np, clkops, i)) 
  + !IS_ERR(clk); i++) {
  
  This really looks like an ABI break to me. What happens to all the
  existing platforms who don't have this new clkops-clocks in their
  device tree?
  
  Agree. This patch as is will break such platforms.
  As possible solution for above problem - the NULL can be used as clock's
  prefix by default and platform code can configure new value of clock's
  prefix during initialization.
  In addition, to make this solution full the of_clk_get_by_name() will
  need to be modified too.
  
  But note pls, this is pure RFC patches which I did to find out the
  answer on questions: - What is better: maintain Runtime PM clocks
  configuration in DT or in code?
  
  In code. I don't think it is workable to embed runtime PM behaviour
  into the DT bindings. I think there will be too much variance in what
  hardware requires. We can create helpers to make this simpler, but I
  don't think it is a good idea to set it up automatically without any
  control from the driver itself.
  
  - Where and when to call of_clk_register_runtime_pm_clocks()?
  
 Bus notifier/ platform core/ device drivers
  
  I would say in device drivers.
  
  I tend to agree with that.
  
  It will help here to take a step back and remember what the problem we're
  trying to solve is.
  
  At the root is clock management. Our system comprise many clocks, and they
  need to be handled. The Common Clock Framework nicely models the clocks,
  and offers an API for drivers to retrieve device clocks and control them.
  Drivers can thus implement clock management manually without much pain.
  
  A clock can be managed in roughly three different ways :
  
  - it can be enabled at probe time and disabled at remove time ;
  
  - it can be enabled right before the device leaves its idle state and
  disabled when the device goes back to idle ; or
  
  - it can be enabled and disabled in a more fine-grained, device-specific
  manner.
  
  The selected clock management granularity depends on constraints specific
  to the device and on how aggressive power saving needs to be. Enabling
  the clocks at probe time and disabling them at remove time is enough for
  most devices, but leads to a high power consumption. For that reason the
  second clock management scheme is often desired.
  
  Managing clocks manually in the driver is a valid option. However, when
  adding runtime PM to the equation, and realizing that the clocks need to
  be enabled in the runtime PM resume handler and disabled in the suspend
  handler, the clock management code starts looking very similar in most
  drivers. We're thus tempted to factorize it away from the drivers into a
  shared location.
  
  It's important to note at this point that the goal here is only to
  simplify drivers. Moving clock management code out of the drivers doesn't
  (unless I'm missing something) open the door to new possibilities, it just
  serves as a simplification.
  
  Now, as Grygorii mentioned, differences between how a given IP core is
  integrated in various SoCs can make clock management SoC-dependent. In the
  vast majority of cases (which is really what we need to target, given that
  our target is simplifying drivers) SoC integration can be described as a
  list of clocks that must be managed. That list can be common to all
  devices in a given SoC, or can be device-dependent as well.
 
 That's actually a problem - now we have static list of managed clocks
 per-SoC and not per device.
 
  Few locations can be used to express a per-device list of per-SoC clocks.
  We can have clocks lists in a per-SoC and per-device location, per-device
  clocks lists in an SoC-specific 

Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] of/clk: use clkops-clocks to specify clocks handled by clock_ops domain

2014-12-12 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Kevin,

On Monday 08 September 2014 13:13:25 Kevin Hilman wrote:
 Laurent Pinchart laurent.pinch...@ideasonboard.com writes:
  On Monday 28 July 2014 23:52:34 Grant Likely wrote:
  On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
   On 07/28/2014 05:05 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
   On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:53:43 +0300, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
 [...]
 
   - Where and when to call of_clk_register_runtime_pm_clocks()?
   
 Bus notifier/ platform core/ device drivers
  
  I would say in device drivers.
  
  I tend to agree with that.
  
  It will help here to take a step back and remember what the problem we're
  trying to solve is.
 
 [jumping in late, after Grygorii ping'd me about looking at this]
 
 Laurent, thanks for summarizing the problem so well.  It helped me
 catchup on the discussion.

You're welcome. Sorry for the very late reply.

  At the root is clock management. Our system comprise many clocks, and they
  need to be handled. The Common Clock Framework nicely models the clocks,
  and offers an API for drivers to retrieve device clocks and control them.
  Drivers can thus implement clock management manually without much pain.
  
  A clock can be managed in roughly three different ways :
  
  - it can be enabled at probe time and disabled at remove time ;
  
  - it can be enabled right before the device leaves its idle state and
  disabled when the device goes back to idle ; or
  
  - it can be enabled and disabled in a more fine-grained, device-specific
  manner.
  
  The selected clock management granularity depends on constraints specific
  to the device and on how aggressive power saving needs to be. Enabling
  the clocks at probe time and disabling them at remove time is enough for
  most devices, but leads to a high power consumption. For that reason the
  second clock management scheme is often desired.
  
  Managing clocks manually in the driver is a valid option. However, when
  adding runtime PM to the equation, and realizing that the clocks need to
  be enabled in the runtime PM resume handler and disabled in the suspend
  handler, the clock management code starts looking very similar in most
  drivers. We're thus tempted to factorize it away from the drivers into a
  shared location.
  
  It's important to note at this point that the goal here is only to
  simplify drivers. Moving clock management code out of the drivers doesn't
  (unless I'm missing something) open the door to new possibilities, it just
  serves as a simplification.
 
 I disagree. Actually, it opens up the door to lots of new possibilities
 that are crucial for fine-grained PM with QoS. It is not just
 simplification. There are many good reasons that some SoCs have moved all
 the management of PM-related clocks *out* of device drivers. More on that
 below...
 
  Now, as Grygorii mentioned, differences between how a given IP core is
  integrated in various SoCs can make clock management SoC-dependent. In the
  vast majority of cases (which is really what we need to target, given that
  our target is simplifying drivers) SoC integration can be described as a
  list of clocks that must be managed. That list can be common to all
  devices in a given SoC, or can be device-dependent as well.
 
 If we care about fine-grained PM, this is a way-too oversimplified
 version of what SoC integragion means.
 
 There are lots of pieces which fall under SoC integration, for
 example: clock domains, power domains, voltage domains, SoC-specific
 wakeup capabilities, etc. etc.  Then, for fun throw in QoS constraints,
 and things get really exciting.
 
 IOW, if you care about fine-grained PM and QoS, you simply can't reduce
 SoC integration down to a list of clocks to be managed.

Of course. I was talking about SoC integration for clocks, not about SoC 
integration in general.

 QoS makes this interesting as well because a device driver's decision to
 gate its own clocks may have serious repercussions on the wakeup latency
 of *other* devices in the same power domain. For example, the clock gating
 of the last active device in a powerdomain may cause the enclosing power-
 domain to be power gated, having a major impact on the wakup latency of
 *all* devices in that power domain.
 
 So if we're going to manage the list of PM-related clocks in the device
 driver, we'll also keep track of all the other devices in the same power
 domain, whether or not they're active, whether or not they have QoS
 constraints, etc. etc. Hopefully you can see that we're quickly way outside
 the scope of the IP block that the device driver is intended to manage.
 
 All of this is SoC integration knowledge, and IMO doen't belong in the
 device drivers.  It belongs at the SoC integration level, and in todays
 kernel frameworks that means pm_domain/genpd.

Ok, there's more to it than I initially thought. Let's see how we can make 
this happen then :-)

  Few locations can be used to express a per-device list of per-SoC clocks.
  We can have clocks 

Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] of/clk: use clkops-clocks to specify clocks handled by clock_ops domain

2014-09-08 Thread Kevin Hilman
Laurent Pinchart laurent.pinch...@ideasonboard.com writes:

 Hi Grygorii and Grant,

 On Monday 28 July 2014 23:52:34 Grant Likely wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
  On 07/28/2014 05:05 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
  On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:53:43 +0300, Grygorii Strashko wrote:

[...]

 
  - Where and when to call of_clk_register_runtime_pm_clocks()?
  
Bus notifier/ platform core/ device drivers
 
 I would say in device drivers.

 I tend to agree with that.

 It will help here to take a step back and remember what the problem we're 
 trying to solve is.

[jumping in late, after Grygorii ping'd me about looking at this]

Laurent, thanks for summarizing the problem so well.  It helped me
catchup on the discussion.

 At the root is clock management. Our system comprise many clocks, and they 
 need to be handled. The Common Clock Framework nicely models the clocks, and 
 offers an API for drivers to retrieve device clocks and control them. Drivers 
 can thus implement clock management manually without much pain.

 A clock can be managed in roughly three different ways :

 - it can be enabled at probe time and disabled at remove time ;

 - it can be enabled right before the device leaves its idle state and 
 disabled 
 when the device goes back to idle ; or

 - it can be enabled and disabled in a more fine-grained, device-specific 
 manner.

 The selected clock management granularity depends on constraints specific to 
 the device and on how aggressive power saving needs to be. Enabling the 
 clocks 
 at probe time and disabling them at remove time is enough for most devices, 
 but leads to a high power consumption. For that reason the second clock 
 management scheme is often desired.

 Managing clocks manually in the driver is a valid option. However, when 
 adding 
 runtime PM to the equation, and realizing that the clocks need to be enabled 
 in the runtime PM resume handler and disabled in the suspend handler, the 
 clock management code starts looking very similar in most drivers. We're thus 
 tempted to factorize it away from the drivers into a shared location.

 It's important to note at this point that the goal here is only to simplify 
 drivers. Moving clock management code out of the drivers doesn't (unless I'm 
 missing something) open the door to new possibilities, it just serves as a 
 simplification.

I disagree. Actually, it opens up the door to lots of new possibilities
that are crucial for fine-grained PM with QoS.  It is not just
simplification.  There are many good reasons that some SoCs have moved
all the management of PM-related clocks *out* of device drivers.  More
on that below...

 Now, as Grygorii mentioned, differences between how a given IP core is 
 integrated in various SoCs can make clock management SoC-dependent. In the 
 vast majority of cases (which is really what we need to target, given that 
 our 
 target is simplifying drivers) SoC integration can be described as a list of 
 clocks that must be managed. That list can be common to all devices in a 
 given 
 SoC, or can be device-dependent as well.

If we care about fine-grained PM, this is a way-too oversimplified
version of what SoC integragion means.

There are lots of pieces which fall under SoC integration, for
example: clock domains, power domains, voltage domains, SoC-specific
wakeup capabilities, etc. etc.  Then, for fun throw in QoS constraints,
and things get really exciting.

IOW, if you care about fine-grained PM and QoS, you simply can't reduce
SoC integration down to a list of clocks to be managed.

QoS makes this interesting as well because a device driver's decision to
gate its own clocks may have serious repercussions on the wakeup latency
of *other* devices in the same power domain.  For example, the clock
gating of the last active device in a powerdomain may cause the
enclosing power-domain to be power gated, having a major impact on the
wakup latency of *all* devices in that power domain.

So if we're going to manage the list of PM-related clocks in the device
driver, we'll also keep track of all the other devices in the same power
domain, whether or not they're active, whether or not they have QoS
constraints, etc. etc.  Hopefully you can see that we're quickly way
outside the scope of the IP block that the device driver is intended to
manage.

All of this is SoC integration knowledge, and IMO doen't belong in the
device drivers.  It belongs at the SoC integration level, and in todays
kernel frameworks that means pm_domain/genpd.

 Few locations can be used to express a per-device list of per-SoC clocks. We 
 can have clocks lists in a per-SoC and per-device location, per-device clocks 
 lists in an SoC-specific location, or per-SoC clocks lists in a device-
 specific location.

 The first option would require listing clocks to be managed by runtime PM in 
 DT nodes, as proposed by this patch set. I don't think this is the best 
 option, as that information is a mix of 

Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] of/clk: use clkops-clocks to specify clocks handled by clock_ops domain

2014-08-04 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Laurent,

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Laurent Pinchart
laurent.pinch...@ideasonboard.com wrote:
 The third option would require storing the clocks lists in device drivers. I
 believe this is our best option, as a trade-off between simplicity and
 versatility. Drivers that use runtime PM already need to enable it explicitly
 when probing devices. Passing a list of clock names to runtime PM at that
 point wouldn't complicate drivers much. When the clocks list isn't SoC-
 dependent it could be stored as static information. Otherwise it could be
 derived from DT (or any other source of hardware description) using C code,
 offering all the versatility we need.

 The only drawback of this solution I can think of right now is that the
 runtime PM core couldn't manage device clocks before probing the device.
 Specifically device clocks couldn't be managed if no driver is loaded for that
 device. I somehow recall that someone raised this as being a problem, but I
 can't remember why.

Perhaps you're thinking of clocks that were enabled (by the boot loader or
implicit reset state) before running Linux, and aren't disabled?

That was fixed by commit bb178da701382a230e26d90cf94e8a24b280e0d9
(clk: shmobile: mstp: Fix the is_enabled() operation).

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

Geert

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Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] of/clk: use clkops-clocks to specify clocks handled by clock_ops domain

2014-08-04 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Geert,

On Monday 04 August 2014 13:28:32 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
  The third option would require storing the clocks lists in device drivers.
  I believe this is our best option, as a trade-off between simplicity and
  versatility. Drivers that use runtime PM already need to enable it
  explicitly when probing devices. Passing a list of clock names to runtime
  PM at that point wouldn't complicate drivers much. When the clocks list
  isn't SoC- dependent it could be stored as static information. Otherwise
  it could be derived from DT (or any other source of hardware description)
  using C code, offering all the versatility we need.
  
  The only drawback of this solution I can think of right now is that the
  runtime PM core couldn't manage device clocks before probing the device.
  Specifically device clocks couldn't be managed if no driver is loaded for
  that device. I somehow recall that someone raised this as being a
  problem, but I can't remember why.
 
 Perhaps you're thinking of clocks that were enabled (by the boot loader or
 implicit reset state) before running Linux, and aren't disabled?

That wasn't the reason, I know that clk_disable_unused() takes care of that 
problem (provided the clock drivers behave correctly, the commit you mention 
below shows that's not always the case, but that's an unrelated issue).

 That was fixed by commit bb178da701382a230e26d90cf94e8a24b280e0d9
 (clk: shmobile: mstp: Fix the is_enabled() operation).

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Regards,

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Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] of/clk: use clkops-clocks to specify clocks handled by clock_ops domain

2014-07-30 Thread Grygorii Strashko
Hi Laurent,

On 07/30/2014 03:06 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
 Hi Grygorii and Grant,
 
 On Monday 28 July 2014 23:52:34 Grant Likely wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
 On 07/28/2014 05:05 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
 On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:53:43 +0300, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
 Use clkops-clocks property to specify clocks handled by
 clock_ops domain PM domain. Only clocks defined in clkops-clocks
 set of clocks will be handled by Runtime PM through clock_ops
 Pm domain.

 Signed-off-by: Grygorii Strashko grygorii.stras...@ti.com
 ---

drivers/of/of_clk.c |7 ++-
1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

 diff --git a/drivers/of/of_clk.c b/drivers/of/of_clk.c
 index 35f5e9f..5f9b90e 100644
 --- a/drivers/of/of_clk.c
 +++ b/drivers/of/of_clk.c
 @@ -86,11 +86,8 @@ int of_clk_register_runtime_pm_clocks(struct
 device_node *np,
   struct clk *clk;
   int error;

 -for (i = 0; (clk = of_clk_get(np, i))  !IS_ERR(clk); i++) {
 -if (!clk_may_runtime_pm(clk)) {
 -clk_put(clk);
 -continue;
 -}
 +for (i = 0; (clk = of_clk_get_from_set(np, clkops, i)) 
 + !IS_ERR(clk); i++) {

 This really looks like an ABI break to me. What happens to all the
 existing platforms who don't have this new clkops-clocks in their device
 tree?

 Agree. This patch as is will break such platforms.
 As possible solution for above problem - the NULL can be used as clock's
 prefix by default and platform code can configure new value of clock's
 prefix during initialization.
 In addition, to make this solution full the of_clk_get_by_name() will
 need to be modified too.

 But note pls, this is pure RFC patches which I did to find out the answer
 on questions: - What is better: maintain Runtime PM clocks configuration
 in DT or in code?

 In code. I don't think it is workable to embed runtime PM behaviour
 into the DT bindings. I think there will be too much variance in what
 hardware requires. We can create helpers to make this simpler, but I
 don't think it is a good idea to set it up automatically without any
 control from the driver itself.

 - Where and when to call of_clk_register_runtime_pm_clocks()?

Bus notifier/ platform core/ device drivers

 I would say in device drivers.
 
 I tend to agree with that.
 
 It will help here to take a step back and remember what the problem we're
 trying to solve is.
 
 At the root is clock management. Our system comprise many clocks, and they
 need to be handled. The Common Clock Framework nicely models the clocks, and
 offers an API for drivers to retrieve device clocks and control them. Drivers
 can thus implement clock management manually without much pain.
 
 A clock can be managed in roughly three different ways :
 
 - it can be enabled at probe time and disabled at remove time ;
 
 - it can be enabled right before the device leaves its idle state and disabled
 when the device goes back to idle ; or
 
 - it can be enabled and disabled in a more fine-grained, device-specific
 manner.
 
 The selected clock management granularity depends on constraints specific to
 the device and on how aggressive power saving needs to be. Enabling the clocks
 at probe time and disabling them at remove time is enough for most devices,
 but leads to a high power consumption. For that reason the second clock
 management scheme is often desired.
 
 Managing clocks manually in the driver is a valid option. However, when adding
 runtime PM to the equation, and realizing that the clocks need to be enabled
 in the runtime PM resume handler and disabled in the suspend handler, the
 clock management code starts looking very similar in most drivers. We're thus
 tempted to factorize it away from the drivers into a shared location.
 
 It's important to note at this point that the goal here is only to simplify
 drivers. Moving clock management code out of the drivers doesn't (unless I'm
 missing something) open the door to new possibilities, it just serves as a
 simplification.
 
 Now, as Grygorii mentioned, differences between how a given IP core is
 integrated in various SoCs can make clock management SoC-dependent. In the
 vast majority of cases (which is really what we need to target, given that our
 target is simplifying drivers) SoC integration can be described as a list of
 clocks that must be managed. That list can be common to all devices in a given
 SoC, or can be device-dependent as well.

That's actually a problem - now we have static list of managed clocks per-SoC 
and
not per device.

 
 Few locations can be used to express a per-device list of per-SoC clocks. We
 can have clocks lists in a per-SoC and per-device location, per-device clocks
 lists in an SoC-specific location, or per-SoC clocks lists in a device-
 specific location.
 
 The first option would require listing clocks to be managed by runtime PM in
 DT nodes, as proposed by this patch set. I don't think 

Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] of/clk: use clkops-clocks to specify clocks handled by clock_ops domain

2014-07-29 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Grygorii and Grant,

On Monday 28 July 2014 23:52:34 Grant Likely wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
  On 07/28/2014 05:05 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
  On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:53:43 +0300, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
  Use clkops-clocks property to specify clocks handled by
  clock_ops domain PM domain. Only clocks defined in clkops-clocks
  set of clocks will be handled by Runtime PM through clock_ops
  Pm domain.
  
  Signed-off-by: Grygorii Strashko grygorii.stras...@ti.com
  ---
  
drivers/of/of_clk.c |7 ++-
1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
  
  diff --git a/drivers/of/of_clk.c b/drivers/of/of_clk.c
  index 35f5e9f..5f9b90e 100644
  --- a/drivers/of/of_clk.c
  +++ b/drivers/of/of_clk.c
  @@ -86,11 +86,8 @@ int of_clk_register_runtime_pm_clocks(struct
  device_node *np, 
   struct clk *clk;
   int error;
  
  -for (i = 0; (clk = of_clk_get(np, i))  !IS_ERR(clk); i++) {
  -if (!clk_may_runtime_pm(clk)) {
  -clk_put(clk);
  -continue;
  -}
  +for (i = 0; (clk = of_clk_get_from_set(np, clkops, i)) 
  + !IS_ERR(clk); i++) {
  
  This really looks like an ABI break to me. What happens to all the
  existing platforms who don't have this new clkops-clocks in their device
  tree?
  
  Agree. This patch as is will break such platforms.
  As possible solution for above problem - the NULL can be used as clock's
  prefix by default and platform code can configure new value of clock's
  prefix during initialization.
  In addition, to make this solution full the of_clk_get_by_name() will
  need to be modified too.
  
  But note pls, this is pure RFC patches which I did to find out the answer
  on questions: - What is better: maintain Runtime PM clocks configuration
  in DT or in code?

 In code. I don't think it is workable to embed runtime PM behaviour
 into the DT bindings. I think there will be too much variance in what
 hardware requires. We can create helpers to make this simpler, but I
 don't think it is a good idea to set it up automatically without any
 control from the driver itself.
 
  - Where and when to call of_clk_register_runtime_pm_clocks()?
  
Bus notifier/ platform core/ device drivers
 
 I would say in device drivers.

I tend to agree with that.

It will help here to take a step back and remember what the problem we're 
trying to solve is.

At the root is clock management. Our system comprise many clocks, and they 
need to be handled. The Common Clock Framework nicely models the clocks, and 
offers an API for drivers to retrieve device clocks and control them. Drivers 
can thus implement clock management manually without much pain.

A clock can be managed in roughly three different ways :

- it can be enabled at probe time and disabled at remove time ;

- it can be enabled right before the device leaves its idle state and disabled 
when the device goes back to idle ; or

- it can be enabled and disabled in a more fine-grained, device-specific 
manner.

The selected clock management granularity depends on constraints specific to 
the device and on how aggressive power saving needs to be. Enabling the clocks 
at probe time and disabling them at remove time is enough for most devices, 
but leads to a high power consumption. For that reason the second clock 
management scheme is often desired.

Managing clocks manually in the driver is a valid option. However, when adding 
runtime PM to the equation, and realizing that the clocks need to be enabled 
in the runtime PM resume handler and disabled in the suspend handler, the 
clock management code starts looking very similar in most drivers. We're thus 
tempted to factorize it away from the drivers into a shared location.

It's important to note at this point that the goal here is only to simplify 
drivers. Moving clock management code out of the drivers doesn't (unless I'm 
missing something) open the door to new possibilities, it just serves as a 
simplification.

Now, as Grygorii mentioned, differences between how a given IP core is 
integrated in various SoCs can make clock management SoC-dependent. In the 
vast majority of cases (which is really what we need to target, given that our 
target is simplifying drivers) SoC integration can be described as a list of 
clocks that must be managed. That list can be common to all devices in a given 
SoC, or can be device-dependent as well.

Few locations can be used to express a per-device list of per-SoC clocks. We 
can have clocks lists in a per-SoC and per-device location, per-device clocks 
lists in an SoC-specific location, or per-SoC clocks lists in a device-
specific location.

The first option would require listing clocks to be managed by runtime PM in 
DT nodes, as proposed by this patch set. I don't think this is the best 
option, as that information is a mix of hardware description and software 
policy, with the hardware description part 

Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] of/clk: use clkops-clocks to specify clocks handled by clock_ops domain

2014-07-28 Thread Grant Likely
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:53:43 +0300, Grygorii Strashko 
grygorii.stras...@ti.com wrote:
 Use clkops-clocks property to specify clocks handled by
 clock_ops domain PM domain. Only clocks defined in clkops-clocks
 set of clocks will be handled by Runtime PM through clock_ops
 Pm domain.
 
 Signed-off-by: Grygorii Strashko grygorii.stras...@ti.com
 ---
  drivers/of/of_clk.c |7 ++-
  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
 
 diff --git a/drivers/of/of_clk.c b/drivers/of/of_clk.c
 index 35f5e9f..5f9b90e 100644
 --- a/drivers/of/of_clk.c
 +++ b/drivers/of/of_clk.c
 @@ -86,11 +86,8 @@ int of_clk_register_runtime_pm_clocks(struct device_node 
 *np,
   struct clk *clk;
   int error;
  
 - for (i = 0; (clk = of_clk_get(np, i))  !IS_ERR(clk); i++) {
 - if (!clk_may_runtime_pm(clk)) {
 - clk_put(clk);
 - continue;
 - }
 + for (i = 0; (clk = of_clk_get_from_set(np, clkops, i)) 
 +  !IS_ERR(clk); i++) {

This really looks like an ABI break to me. What happens to all the
existing platforms who don't have this new clkops-clocks in their device
tree?

g.
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Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] of/clk: use clkops-clocks to specify clocks handled by clock_ops domain

2014-07-28 Thread Grygorii Strashko
Hi Grant.

On 07/28/2014 05:05 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
 On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:53:43 +0300, Grygorii Strashko 
 grygorii.stras...@ti.com wrote:
 Use clkops-clocks property to specify clocks handled by
 clock_ops domain PM domain. Only clocks defined in clkops-clocks
 set of clocks will be handled by Runtime PM through clock_ops
 Pm domain.

 Signed-off-by: Grygorii Strashko grygorii.stras...@ti.com
 ---
   drivers/of/of_clk.c |7 ++-
   1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

 diff --git a/drivers/of/of_clk.c b/drivers/of/of_clk.c
 index 35f5e9f..5f9b90e 100644
 --- a/drivers/of/of_clk.c
 +++ b/drivers/of/of_clk.c
 @@ -86,11 +86,8 @@ int of_clk_register_runtime_pm_clocks(struct device_node 
 *np,
  struct clk *clk;
  int error;
   
 -for (i = 0; (clk = of_clk_get(np, i))  !IS_ERR(clk); i++) {
 -if (!clk_may_runtime_pm(clk)) {
 -clk_put(clk);
 -continue;
 -}
 +for (i = 0; (clk = of_clk_get_from_set(np, clkops, i)) 
 + !IS_ERR(clk); i++) {
 
 This really looks like an ABI break to me. What happens to all the
 existing platforms who don't have this new clkops-clocks in their device
 tree?

Agree. This patch as is will break such platforms.
As possible solution for above problem - the NULL can be used as clock's prefix
by default and platform code can configure new value of clock's prefix during
initialization.
In addition, to make this solution full the of_clk_get_by_name() will
need to be modified too.

But note pls, this is pure RFC patches which I did to find out the answer on 
questions:
- What is better: maintain Runtime PM clocks configuration in DT or in code?

- Where and when to call of_clk_register_runtime_pm_clocks()?
  Bus notifier/ platform core/ device drivers

Also, May be platform dependent solution [1] can be acceptable for now?

[1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/7/25/630

Best regards,
-grygorii

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Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] of/clk: use clkops-clocks to specify clocks handled by clock_ops domain

2014-07-28 Thread Grant Likely
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Grygorii Strashko
grygorii.stras...@ti.com wrote:
 Hi Grant.

 On 07/28/2014 05:05 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
 On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:53:43 +0300, Grygorii Strashko 
 grygorii.stras...@ti.com wrote:
 Use clkops-clocks property to specify clocks handled by
 clock_ops domain PM domain. Only clocks defined in clkops-clocks
 set of clocks will be handled by Runtime PM through clock_ops
 Pm domain.

 Signed-off-by: Grygorii Strashko grygorii.stras...@ti.com
 ---
   drivers/of/of_clk.c |7 ++-
   1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

 diff --git a/drivers/of/of_clk.c b/drivers/of/of_clk.c
 index 35f5e9f..5f9b90e 100644
 --- a/drivers/of/of_clk.c
 +++ b/drivers/of/of_clk.c
 @@ -86,11 +86,8 @@ int of_clk_register_runtime_pm_clocks(struct device_node 
 *np,
  struct clk *clk;
  int error;

 -for (i = 0; (clk = of_clk_get(np, i))  !IS_ERR(clk); i++) {
 -if (!clk_may_runtime_pm(clk)) {
 -clk_put(clk);
 -continue;
 -}
 +for (i = 0; (clk = of_clk_get_from_set(np, clkops, i)) 
 + !IS_ERR(clk); i++) {

 This really looks like an ABI break to me. What happens to all the
 existing platforms who don't have this new clkops-clocks in their device
 tree?

 Agree. This patch as is will break such platforms.
 As possible solution for above problem - the NULL can be used as clock's 
 prefix
 by default and platform code can configure new value of clock's prefix during
 initialization.
 In addition, to make this solution full the of_clk_get_by_name() will
 need to be modified too.

 But note pls, this is pure RFC patches which I did to find out the answer on 
 questions:
 - What is better: maintain Runtime PM clocks configuration in DT or in code?

In code. I don't think it is workable to embed runtime PM behaviour
into the DT bindings. I think there will be too much variance in what
hardware requires. We can create helpers to make this simpler, but I
don't think it is a good idea to set it up automatically without any
control from the driver itself.


 - Where and when to call of_clk_register_runtime_pm_clocks()?
   Bus notifier/ platform core/ device drivers

I would say in device drivers.

 Also, May be platform dependent solution [1] can be acceptable for now?

 [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/7/25/630

I need to look at the series before I comment. I've flagged it and
will hopefully look at it tomorrow.

g.
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[RFC PATCH 2/2] of/clk: use clkops-clocks to specify clocks handled by clock_ops domain

2014-06-12 Thread Grygorii Strashko
Use clkops-clocks property to specify clocks handled by
clock_ops domain PM domain. Only clocks defined in clkops-clocks
set of clocks will be handled by Runtime PM through clock_ops
Pm domain.

Signed-off-by: Grygorii Strashko grygorii.stras...@ti.com
---
 drivers/of/of_clk.c |7 ++-
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/of/of_clk.c b/drivers/of/of_clk.c
index 35f5e9f..5f9b90e 100644
--- a/drivers/of/of_clk.c
+++ b/drivers/of/of_clk.c
@@ -86,11 +86,8 @@ int of_clk_register_runtime_pm_clocks(struct device_node *np,
struct clk *clk;
int error;
 
-   for (i = 0; (clk = of_clk_get(np, i))  !IS_ERR(clk); i++) {
-   if (!clk_may_runtime_pm(clk)) {
-   clk_put(clk);
-   continue;
-   }
+   for (i = 0; (clk = of_clk_get_from_set(np, clkops, i)) 
+!IS_ERR(clk); i++) {
 
error = of_clk_register(dev, clk);
if (error) {
-- 
1.7.9.5

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