Re: Raid 5. Lost 2 drives.

2000-06-26 Thread Manuel Eduardo Correia


jmm [m.allan noah]
jmm   The howto says try mkraid --force.  With a 2 drive (2/4) will I lose
jmm   everything.
jmm  
jmm  why do you want to make a two drive raid5? that makes no sense. use raid1.
jmm 
jmm If you *read* his message you'll notice that he has 4 drives in the
jmm array and lost 2 of them (2 still active). :)
jmm 
jmm  yes- if there is data already on the drive, running mkraid is a pretty sure
jmm  way to destroy the filesystem, since part of the file system will be
jmm  overwritten.
jmm 
jmm Incorrect.  if it was a s/w raid device already, then nothing gets touched
jmm except the raid super-block that was already there.  Resync may occur,
jmm but there are mkraid options to keep that from happening too.

Something very similar happened to me and in the end I add to
reconstruct 60.000 mail accounts with some thousands email messages
lost... This probably nothing to do with Raid software but with the
filesystem... Anyway, I gave up running Raid5 in this production
server and I am now ruunig it in a 75Gig SCSI disc with reiserfs... 
   There sure is a lack of documentation on what can be done in
case of disk failure that would have helped a lot in my case and
probably would have prevented this MAJOR loss of data... 8-(..

mcc





Journaling FS and RAID

2000-06-26 Thread Sean Millichamp

I am about to implement a ~100 GB RAID-5 array using Linux software
RAID-5 and I have two questions I was hoping I could find answers to here
:)

1) Journaling

Access speed is not terribly important in this instance but minimizing
fsck time on reboot is somewhat important.  It will be a mostly read-only
environment but I'd like to not have to mount the volume as RO.

Are any of the journaled file systems that are available for Linux
compatible with the RAID system yet?  (Or, perhaps more accuratly, is
software raid compatible with journaling).  Is anyone running journaling
with software RAID?

2) Resizing RAID volumes

I recall seeing once quite a while ago information regarding resizing of
RAID volumes (as in, adding additional active drives) that stated RAID 0
resizing was functional, but not RAID-5.  Does anyone know if any progress
been made on this front or if anyone is working on it at all?  I did some
searching with google, but didn't find anything that really answered my
question.

Thanks.

Sean




Re: Raid 5. Lost 2 drives.

2000-06-26 Thread Henry J. Cobb

Something very similar happened to me and in the end I add to reconstruct
60.000 mail accounts with some thousands email messages lost...

You signed up 60,000 customers between your nightly backup and the failure
point?  I want to know where you advertise!

Seriously, RAID is NOT the same as having good backups and vice versa.

-HJC




Re: Journaling FS and RAID

2000-06-26 Thread Stephen Amadei

On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Sean Millichamp wrote:

 Are any of the journaled file systems that are available for Linux
 compatible with the RAID system yet?  (Or, perhaps more accuratly, is
 software raid compatible with journaling).  Is anyone running journaling
 with software RAID?

IIRC, the ReiserFS is a journalling FS.  I have been using the lastest
version without problems until I tried to upgrade from 2.2.14 to 
2.2.16... but I'm pretty sure my problem is more related to the software
raid than the ReiserFS... my problem softraid array won't even
format ext2-fs...

I am using RAID0 with Reiser... there was a problem with using RAID5 on
Reiser until recently... it's been fixed now.

Steve
Stephen Amadei
Dandy.net CTO
Atlantic City, NJ






Re: Journaling FS and RAID

2000-06-26 Thread Jakob Østergaard

On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Sean Millichamp wrote:

 I am about to implement a ~100 GB RAID-5 array using Linux software
 RAID-5 and I have two questions I was hoping I could find answers to here
 :)
 
...
 
 2) Resizing RAID volumes
 
 I recall seeing once quite a while ago information regarding resizing of
 RAID volumes (as in, adding additional active drives) that stated RAID 0
 resizing was functional, but not RAID-5.  Does anyone know if any progress
 been made on this front or if anyone is working on it at all?  I did some
 searching with google, but didn't find anything that really answered my
 question.

There's been no progress here yet, but there will be in some time.

You can get the tool from http://ostenfeld.dtu.dk/~jakob/Software-RAID.HOWTO/
and it support RAID-0 resizing, but not yet RAID-5.   Feel free to add
RAID-5 functionality yourself:)If noone else does, I'll do that
myself, but I can't make promises as to when that will happen.  It could
be weeks or it could be months from now.

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3 IDE controllers??

2000-06-26 Thread Patrick Scharrenberg



Hi..

does anyone know, if it is possible to run more 
than two ide controllers in one pc??

I testet my enviroment and got the result that a 
2-disk (2 ide-controller) raid array is much faster than a 3 disk (2 controller) 
system.. and now i would like to upgrade with another controller..

if it is possible, which one runs best at lowest 
price?  :-))

thanks..

c.u.
..patrick


Problem with raidhotremove

2000-06-26 Thread Martin Lichtin

Anyone know why raidhotremove does not work?

[root]# raidhotremove /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1
/dev/md0: can not hot-remove disk: disk busy!

This is on a boiler-plate RH 6.2 system.

I _think_ I could use the "failed-disk" feature and 
run mkraid --force, but I'm not sure, so I better don't...