Re: New ISP Conclusions

2008-12-31 Thread Robert Fisher

> Just some conclusions to follow up my earlier post:
>
Is your date set correctly?

Rob



Re: New ISP Conclusions

2008-12-31 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene

On 2/01/2009, at 8:23 AM, Bernard Frankpitt wrote:
I was surprised to find the the ISP situation has changed  
drastically in the last three years.  There are now essentially 4  
ISPs in New Zealand:  Telecom, Telstra, Vodaphone and Slingshot:


Orcon (a large ISP that is now indirectly government-owned) and Xnet/ 
WorldXchange (a budget ISP) are pretty big in terms of subscriber  
numbers too. They sit in the chain at the same level that Vodafone and  
Slingshot/Callplus do, in that they sell DSL over Telecom's DSLAMs  
predominantly, but have either started deploying their own DSLAMs in  
some exchanges or plan to do so.


There's also ten or so smaller ISPs around the place, some of which  
are predominantly regional. Basically all of them, with the exception  
of some wireless ISPs (of which Woosh is the most well known, but  
probably not for the right reasons), sell DSL services.


There's also a few business ISPs around, and many of the above  
residential ISPs also have business services.


-jasper



Re: New ISP Conclusions

2008-12-31 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Bernard Frankpitt
 wrote:
> In the end I went for the cable modem option:  It is the option offered by
> my Telstra, and I already have a cable connected to my house.
> ...
> When you go to a broadband connection, the ISP controls both sides of the
> link since they provide you with a stand-alone modem that usually connects
> to you computer via a TCP/IP link over Ethernet. That is a much easier set
> of protocols to design to. In addition, it is easy to put a firewall router
> between the modem and your machines to give you additional security.

Just be aware that with Telstra, by default you get a real external IP
address bound directly to your computer; if you are not running a
pretty aggressive firewall you will now be processing all attack
traffic directly on your machine. Of course, the majority of this will
be stuff that subverts Windows machines, but some if it will be valid
attacks against other services too.

Attaching a Windows computer directly to Telstra's service is severely
negligent. :-)

The Telecom ADSL solution, where there is a NAT layer between you and
the Internet run on a separate piece of hardware, is actually nicer
from that perspective.

I strongly recommend a separate machine of some description between
you and the Telstra connection. Just what that is, depends on what you
want to do with your new connection ...

-jim


New ISP Conclusions

2008-12-31 Thread Bernard Frankpitt

Just some conclusions to follow up my earlier post:

First:
Thanks for all the replies and discussion.

In the end I went for the cable modem option:  It is the option offered 
by my Telstra, and I already have a cable connected to my house.


Second:
I was surprised to find the the ISP situation has changed drastically in 
the last three years.  There are now essentially 4 ISPs in New Zealand:  
Telecom, Telstra, Vodaphone and Slingshot: 

Paradise and Clearnet are just brands for Telstra clear.  Telstra has 
completely integrated the operation of these companies with its own 
TelstraClear service. While the old Paradise and Clearnet domain names 
still exist, all new users get TelstraClear accounts.


IHug is now Vodaphone.

I am sure there are still some small ISPs around, but it seems like the 
top end is well and truely shaken out.


Third:
As regards PPP over modem, I downloaded the relevant RFC's and looked 
pretty carefully at the PPP problem I was having. The problem I was 
having was in the LCP setup layer.  It seems that Slingshot's state 
machine and the pppd state machine go out of sync when the Slingshot 
peer tries to renegotiate the LCP layer.  The pppd peer ( the only side 
that I can see in detail ) looks to follow the RFC specification,  but 
the whole thing is so complicated that I cannot conclude that the 
Slingshot peer is at fault. It may well be that the right combination of 
options to pppd will overcome this problem, but it is really a sticking 
plaster solution.


The underlying issue is that PPP is a complicated protocol that involves 
extensive negotiation of parameters between the two peers at several 
protocol layers.  While I am sure that whoever writes the ISP's peers 
could do better with their testing, I doubt if it is possible to come up 
with a test suite that guarantees the implementation is compliant with 
standard under all circumstances.   I doubt that PPP over modem 
connections to any ISP will ever be truely Linux friendly in a set and 
forget sense.


When you go to a broadband connection, the ISP controls both sides of 
the link since they provide you with a stand-alone modem that usually 
connects to you computer via a TCP/IP link over Ethernet. That is a much 
easier set of protocols to design to. In addition, it is easy to put a 
firewall router between the modem and your machines to give you 
additional security.


Bernie Frankpitt


Re: OT: Christchurch bus info

2008-12-31 Thread Rik Tindall

Eliot Blennerhassett wrote:

Recalling that there was some bemoaning of the lack of linux support
for bus information in chch, I stumbled across this just now:

http://arcgis.ecan.govt.nz/Beta/Metro/wheresmybus.aspx

(From here http://ecangisbeta.wordpress.com/)
  


Looking good

Happy New Year to all *nix users



OT: Christchurch bus info

2008-12-31 Thread Eliot Blennerhassett
Recalling that there was some bemoaning of the lack of linux support
for bus information in chch, I stumbled across this just now:

http://arcgis.ecan.govt.nz/Beta/Metro/wheresmybus.aspx

(From here http://ecangisbeta.wordpress.com/)