Re: Blocked sight

2010-05-18 Thread John
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On 05/18/2010 05:47 PM, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
 On 18 May 2010 17:23, John mall...@actrix.co.nz wrote:
 
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 On 05/18/2010 05:04 PM, Robert Fisher wrote:
 On 18/05/10 16:56, John wrote:
 Just wonedring
 who is p1-telstra-int-pri.connections.net.nz.
 are they blocking pirate bay
 are they allowed to do that


 See

 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5objectid=10645779



 Interesting. So they are stopping pb from overseas.( I presume Germany )
 Should there not be more hops in the trace route if that is the case


 http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/may/17/pirate-bay-offline
 
 Read the comments carefully.
 
There is a lot of comments about the morality of Stealing Software.
Which is not really the issue. Buy banning that sight they are banning
people from getting Linux software. So they are lumping Linux Software
in with the things that they classify as illegal.  If they want to
filter the illegal stuff out fair enough. But Banning GPL Software is
wrong. Granted it might not be to much of an issue. But the foot in the
door principle makes it worth taking a look at.

But any way what I am wondering is it the telstra sight that is blocking
things. Or is it an overseas sight.  and also If it is a NZ sight that
is blocking. Are they allowed to do that.
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Re: Blocked sight

2010-05-18 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:08 PM, John mall...@actrix.co.nz wrote:
 But any way what I am wondering is it the telstra sight that is blocking
 things. Or is it an overseas sight.  and also If it is a NZ sight that
 is blocking. Are they allowed to do that.

they can do whatever they like, there are no rights out there.
It's a miracle the Internet works at all ...

I guess what's happened is that the upstream for PB has stopped
advertising routes to their addresses. Within NZ routing is broadly
based only on national or international; once you get into the
international routers with multiple peers connected you need to know
which route to take; if the network block that PB is on is no longer
being actively advertised, it becomes unroutable. No need for anyone
locally to do anything, it's a consequence of how large hosting
centres set things up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bgp may give you the background you need here.

-jim


Re: Blocked sight

2010-05-18 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 16:56 +1200, John wrote:
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 I found I could not get through to the piratebay so I did a trace route
 on it and got this.
 
 
 # traceroute thepiratebay.org
 traceroute to thepiratebay.org (194.71.107.15), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
  1  RTA1335.home (192.168.1.1)  1.004 ms  1.469 ms  1.923 ms
  2  wn-cisco-r5-lo-5.connections.net.nz (202.49.152.169)  49.764 ms
 50.279 ms  52.526 ms
  3  wn-sum-1-wnlan7.connections.net.nz (202.49.152.161)  53.566 ms
 54.546 ms  55.002 ms
  4  192.168.100.45 (192.168.100.45)  56.862 ms  58.906 ms  59.294 ms
  5  p1-telstra-int-pri.connections.net.nz (202.154.157.88)  69.991 ms
 70.476 ms  71.236 ms
  6  * * *
  7  * * *
  8  * * *
  9  * * *
It's back...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/18/pirate_bay_injunction





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