Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works

2002-04-05 Thread Zoran

On Apr 4 burns was heard saying:

-On April  2, 2002 06:59 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
-
-
-  I think I prefer the old mascot of Dr. Tux rather than Beach boy Tux. In
-  fact one has the impression of having seen it elsewhere. Personally, I am
-  for re-establishing Dr. Tux.
-
- As soon as Burns gets some time, that is the plan. the current penguin is
- just a stand-in.
-
-Is it the beachchair idea that you don't like, the different penguin, or both?


*** Both. Basically, Dr. Tux is much more original than beach Tux. And its
looks fit more the content we are proposing.

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Re: KDE 3.0 is out!

2002-04-05 Thread Collins

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:29:00 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm running Mandrake 8.1 on the lab rat. Downloaded the KDE3 rpm
 binaries for  man8.1 and did the install. I can run kde3 from the
 console (runlevel 3) How ever even though kde3 appears in the kdm
 login screen I still get KDE2. If ths was COL I would know where to
 set things up. Oddly the Mandrake rpm's set up KDE3 in /opt, whereas
 KDE2 is in /usr. I suppose I can always boot into run_level 3 and
 start KDE3. I just don't like things half done. where do I set up kdm
 to see KDE3?
 

Presuming you can start KDE3 Control Center - System - Login Manager
- sessions.

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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-05 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on April 04, burns managed to emit:
 On April  4, 2002 02:28 pm, Rick McQueen-Thomson wrote:
  FWIW,  I like the new design.  I think Tux looks too studious.  I still
  think he needs to be sipping on a daiquiri or a Planter's Punch as well as
  reading.
 
 Or a beer.  Noted.

What? No caffeinated substance? What are you guys, troglodytes or
something? Or one of those sick, perverted souls that goes to
Starbucks and orders a [horrors] skinny decaf latte?

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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-05 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 06:52:36 -0500
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Scribbling feverishly on April 04, burns managed to emit:
  On April  4, 2002 02:28 pm, Rick McQueen-Thomson wrote:
   FWIW,  I like the new design.  I think Tux looks too studious.  I
   still think he needs to be sipping on a daiquiri or a Planter's Punch
   as well as reading.
  
  Or a beer.  Noted.
 
 What? No caffeinated substance? What are you guys, troglodytes or
 something? Or one of those sick, perverted souls that goes to
 Starbucks and orders a [horrors] skinny decaf latte?

Glad to report the total absence of Starbucks in this country. I
could just hear the Italian guy down the block laugh when I ask
for either a 'skinny' or a 'decaf' anything. Swedes are serious
about coffee!

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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-05 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on April 05, Michael Scottaline managed to emit:
 On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:27:37 -0500
 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled intuitively:
 
 On April  4, 2002 02:28 pm, Rick McQueen-Thomson wrote:
  FWIW,  I like the new design.  I think Tux looks too studious.  I still
  think he needs to be sipping on a daiquiri or a Planter's Punch as well
  as reading.
 
 
 Or a beer.  Noted.
 =
 Like this?

Das geht.

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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-05 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on April 05, Roger Oberholtzer managed to emit:

[...]

Which isn't to say that Starbucks makes good coffee -- they don't.

 Glad to report the total absence of Starbucks in this country. I
 could just hear the Italian guy down the block laugh when I ask
 for either a 'skinny' or a 'decaf' anything. Swedes are serious
 about coffee!

[chuckle]

We don't need no steenking skinny decaf ! ;-)

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OTStay Legal - Stay Free (Software)

2002-04-05 Thread burns

The following forwarded message outlines David Skoll's (of Roaring 
Penguin.com and author of the standard PPOE DSL interface) plea for 
assistance in his battle against the CAAT organization's tactics. CAAT is a 
coalition of large proprietary corporations, led by Microsoft, That have 
started to take enforcement of software licensing into their own hands. This 
ranges from the now infamous threatening letters, to walk-in audits and 
lawsuits. What seems to bother people the most is not so much the rights they 
are attempting to protect, but the methods that they are employing.

David's proposition is simple -- avoid CAAT threats and goon squad searches 
of your workplace by simply moving as much as possible to open source 
software, preferably Linux. His  aim is two-fold: object to the CAAT methods 
and pomote open source altenatives.

Our LUG here in Ottawa has picked up the ball and is supporting David. I'm 
sure he would be grateful for any help anyone could give him.

--  Forwarded Message  --
Subject: [oclug] Re: [linux-consult] stay-legal.org in Ottawa Business 
Journal,
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:18:30 -0500 (EST)
From: David F. Skoll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mike Gifford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi,

I have updated http://www.stay-legal.org/ with some links, partly to refute
the CAAST rep's comments in the Ottawa Business Journal article.

I'm DESPERATELY seeking help maintaining www.stay-legal.org; I do not
have the time to do it myself.  If anyone can contribute links, content
or design, please send it to me!  If you want to take over maintainership,
even better.

Regards,

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Re: Mandrake shutdown/segmentation fault

2002-04-05 Thread Stuart Biggerstaff

Thanks, Lonni.  The first link is of course exactly my problem.

After a little research I find the motherboard actually is usable in both 
AT and ATX systems--and I couldn't find a way in the BIOS to turn off APM 
support.  While the manual says Power Management can be set to Disabled, 
that choice is not actually available.  Besides, other APM features, like 
powering down disks should still work, so there are advantages to having an 
APM-enabled kernel, and having it available in hardware.

What I did--that seems to have worked--is compare the shutdown script on 
this system with one on a Slackware system. There I found a little better 
documentation on what happens in the last moments of shutdown.  In the 
Mandrake file (/etc/init.d/halt), I found the line HALTARGS=-i -d -p, 
and when I changed it to HALTARGS=-i -d on my system at home, it no 
longer powered off.  I did the same on the system I asked about--no more 
segfault.

At 10:54 AM 4/4/02 -0800, Net Llama wrote:
Check these out:
snip



Stuart Biggerstaff

Linda Hall Library of Science Engineering  Technology
5109 Cherry St.
Kansas City, MO 64110

Phone:  (816) 926-8748
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FAX:(816) 926-8785
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Re: procmail and formail

2002-04-05 Thread =?x-user-defined?q?toylet=2Elinux=5B=A4p=AA=B1=B7N=5D?=

seems that we really need a page on formail.
procmail needs it anyway.

a list fo typical formail tricks would be nice.

btw, is formail tbe best in her category?

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Re: (day three) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Thursday 04 April 2002 12:11, Net Llama wrote:
 Why not?  Is there really a difference between the 'new' english version
 of the front page, and the 'old' french version?

 I think this is key, especially if Patrick finds it to be important
 enough to mention.

actually, now that I think about it.. the content is almost exactly the same. 
the markup is different. I'll look into it over the weekend.
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Re: procmail, day 2

2002-04-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Friday 05 April 2002 01:54, toylet.linux[¤pª±·N] wrote:
 procmail: Extraneous locallockfile ignored

this could be from just about anything. kmail can be configured to use 
procmail style locks, and procmail will notice them and give this.

 procmail: Skipped duplicate
 procmail: Skipped , through it out. if it's not, add the message id to
 the cache file

this looks like you have a comment in the file that procmail doesn't realize 
is a comment...

 procmail: Lock failure on /var/log/msgid.lock

I'd say that /var/log is where /etc/procmailrc wants to write lockfiles 
(judging by this error)

 formail: Couldn't open /var/log/msgid.cache

and I'd say it wants to keep the cache in /var/log as well.

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kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

I spent all day yesterday compiling, tweaking, etc.
I must say, for KDE, I'm impressed!
the new kmail is pretty sweet too.. right click on an email, choose create 
filter, pick 'mailing list header' and it creates a filter with the values 
for the mailing list header! you just have to tell it what you want it do 
with the email!
and the improvements in konqui are nice too!
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Re: procmail, day 2

2002-04-05 Thread =?x-user-defined?q?toylet=2Elinux=5B=A4p=AA=B1=B7N=5D?=

yes. cut-and-paste error. was fixed a moment ago.

 this looks like you have a comment in the file that procmail doesn't realize
 is a comment...

when working as a global procmail, where should I put these lock files?
/var/lock? and is it necessary to use those so-called locallockfiles? 

does sendmail guarantee that only one procmail will be active at any
time when there is a /etc/procmailrc? This locking issue is definitely
complicating my job... I have taken out all : in my /etc/procmailrc
except the msgid.cache you created in the sample.

 I'd say that /var/log is where /etc/procmailrc wants to write lockfiles
 (judging by this error)
 and I'd say it wants to keep the cache in /var/log as well.

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread =?x-user-defined?q?toylet=2Elinux=5B=A4p=AA=B1=B7N=5D?=

you merely talked about the features. what about performance and
footprint?

Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 
 I spent all day yesterday compiling, tweaking, etc.
 I must say, for KDE, I'm impressed!

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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-05 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage

Also sprach Douglas J Hunley on Thursday 04 April 2002 15:19:

 Today's changes include:
 1. A new font (for those who have it installed) .Screenshot is attached for
 those without the font. Please comment on the new font.
Only a suggestion: If you want a nice font for the items in the upper and 
left-hand frames which a bit outside from the usual 
Arial/Helvetica/Times/Tahoma line, try Comic Sans MS. I think it had been 
used as body text font in some SxS pages, I always loved it, and IMHO it goes 
well with the font which you used in the new SxS logo.
It will even do nicely without the [ brackets ] ...
BTW, if anyone minds that it's copyright MS$, the beloved Tahoma and Verdana 
seem to be as well.
An altenative to try out would be Lucidux Sans, which I think is included in 
a standard XFree installation, and definitely not MS$.

 2. forums page cleaned up. I like it a lot better then the previous
 'placeholder' page. thanks for mentioning it Klaus. i probably would have
 forgotten to re-write it otherwise.
I like it much better now. It seems to be in the same style as the sample 
content under 'world wide web'.
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speed of transfer

2002-04-05 Thread =?x-user-defined?q?toylet=2Elinux=5B=A4p=AA=B1=B7N=5D?=


is there a generic tool that could log and report the input and output
speed of a selected netwoking interface (eth0/ppp0/...) for the past say
5 minutes? 

How about a breakdown per daemon if possible?

mainly for knowing the transfer speed of proftpd. Those M$ ftp server
program has this kind of gimmicks.

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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-05 Thread Net Llama


--- Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:27:37 -0500
 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled intuitively:
 
 On April  4, 2002 02:28 pm, Rick McQueen-Thomson wrote:
  FWIW,  I like the new design.  I think Tux looks too studious.  I
 still
  think he needs to be sipping on a daiquiri or a Planter's Punch as
 well
  as reading.
 
 
 Or a beer.  Noted.
 =
 Like this?

As cute as that is, it seems a bit too alcohol focused for the SxS
audience (IMO).

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Friday 05 April 2002 11:49, toylet.linux[¤pª±·N] wrote:
 you merely talked about the features. what about performance and
 footprint?

feels a hell of a lot faster. compiled for 686, with all bells and whistles, 
/opt/kde3 is 238M.

no kde apps show up in top on this system. adding up all kde processes, looks 
like 188372 bytes of RSS. not too bad. I have liquid running, kmail, 
ksystemguard, kcalc, konqueror, grkellm (managed by kwin) and two xterms 
(also managed by kwin).
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Re: speed of transfer

2002-04-05 Thread Federico Voges

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Hi,

Have a look at MRTG and CACTI (you can find both on freashmeat.net).

Both use SNMP to collect traffic statistics.

CACTI has a nicer interface and a lot of graphics beyond traffic but it
requires PHP.

MRTG is simpler and is just a traffic grapher (MRTG=Multi Router
Traffic Grapher). And only needs perl, a web server (it generates plain
HTML) and SNMP on the devices you want to monitor.

I'm using it to monitor my internal LAN as well as my DSL conection
(PPTP + PPP).



On Sat, 06 Apr 2002 00:59:00 +0800, toylet.linux[¤pª±·N] wrote:


is there a generic tool that could log and report the input and output
speed of a selected netwoking interface (eth0/ppp0/...) for the past say
5 minutes? 

How about a breakdown per daemon if possible?

mainly for knowing the transfer speed of proftpd. Those M$ ftp server
program has this kind of gimmicks.

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Re: Stay Legal - Stay Free (Software)

2002-04-05 Thread Net Llama

Burns,
Have you or David considered sumitting this to /. for greater exposure?

-L

--- burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The following forwarded message outlines David Skoll's (of Roaring 
 Penguin.com and author of the standard PPOE DSL interface) plea for 
 assistance in his battle against the CAAT organization's tactics. CAAT
 is a 
 coalition of large proprietary corporations, led by Microsoft, That
 have 
 started to take enforcement of software licensing into their own
 hands. This 
 ranges from the now infamous threatening letters, to walk-in audits
 and 
 lawsuits. What seems to bother people the most is not so much the
 rights they 
 are attempting to protect, but the methods that they are employing.
 
 David's proposition is simple -- avoid CAAT threats and goon squad
 searches 
 of your workplace by simply moving as much as possible to open source 
 software, preferably Linux. His  aim is two-fold: object to the CAAT
 methods 
 and pomote open source altenatives.
 
 Our LUG here in Ottawa has picked up the ball and is supporting David.
 I'm 
 sure he would be grateful for any help anyone could give him.
 
 --  Forwarded Message  --
 Subject: [oclug] Re: [linux-consult] stay-legal.org in Ottawa Business
 
 Journal,
 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:18:30 -0500 (EST)
 From: David F. Skoll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mike Gifford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I have updated http://www.stay-legal.org/ with some links, partly to
 refute
 the CAAST rep's comments in the Ottawa Business Journal article.
 
 I'm DESPERATELY seeking help maintaining www.stay-legal.org; I do not
 have the time to do it myself.  If anyone can contribute links,
 content
 or design, please send it to me!  If you want to take over
 maintainership,
 even better.
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Net Llama

--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I spent all day yesterday compiling, tweaking, etc.
 I must say, for KDE, I'm impressed!
 the new kmail is pretty sweet too.. right click on an email, choose
 create 
 filter, pick 'mailing list header' and it creates a filter with the
 values 
 for the mailing list header! you just have to tell it what you want it
 do 
 with the email!
 and the improvements in konqui are nice too!

Care to elaborate a bit?  Come on, make the tough sell!  ;)

Is it as slow/fast as KDE-1.x?

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Friday 05 April 2002 12:21, Net Llama wrote:
 Care to elaborate a bit?  Come on, make the tough sell!  ;)

 Is it as slow/fast as KDE-1.x?

I don't remember kde 1.x speed but it definately feels faster than 2.x
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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Net Llama

--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 05 April 2002 12:21, Net Llama wrote:
  Care to elaborate a bit?  Come on, make the tough sell!  ;)
 
  Is it as slow/fast as KDE-1.x?
 
 I don't remember kde 1.x speed but it definately feels faster than
 2.x
 what else you want to know?

does it suck?

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Friday 05 April 2002 13:02, Net Llama wrote:
 does it suck?

not for me
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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Pam R

On Friday 05 April 2002 5:39 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 I spent all day yesterday compiling, tweaking, etc.
 I must say, for KDE, I'm impressed!
 the new kmail is pretty sweet too.. right click on an email, choose create
 filter, pick 'mailing list header' and it creates a filter with the values
 for the mailing list header! you just have to tell it what you want it do
 with the email!
 and the improvements in konqui are nice too!

And don't forget the squirming icons! Thankfully optional.

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Friday 05 April 2002 13:11, Pam R wrote:
 And don't forget the squirming icons! Thankfully optional.

which?
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Re: procmail, day 2

2002-04-05 Thread Gerry Doris

I don't believe procmail cares where you put the log files as long as you
can write to the directory.  Change the path of the lock files to a
directory where the user running procmail can write.

 does sendmail guarantee that only one procmail will be active at any
 time when there is a /etc/procmailrc? This locking issue is definitely
 complicating my job... I have taken out all : in my /etc/procmailrc
 except the msgid.cache you created in the sample.

I believe the example assumes you are running as root.  That's why they
use /var/log.  A normal user can't write to /var/log for obvious reasons.
Each user may have his/her own .procmailrc file in their own directory.
When that user starts prormail it uses that user's .procmailrc file.  Just
make sure that whatever user is calling procmail it can write to the
specified directories.


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PCMCIA network/modem card

2002-04-05 Thread Randy Donohoe

I used to have a Linksys PCMLM56 combo network/modem card that was 
dongle-less and worked great with my dual boot notebook. A new one runs 
about $120 and shipping. Anyone know of a dongle-less, linux-compatible 
card that's cheaper?
Thanks,
Randy Donohoe
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Re: PCMCIA network/modem card

2002-04-05 Thread Net Llama


--- Randy Donohoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I used to have a Linksys PCMLM56 combo network/modem card that was 
 dongle-less and worked great with my dual boot notebook. A new one
 runs 
 about $120 and shipping. Anyone know of a dongle-less,
 linux-compatible 
 card that's cheaper?

I have a Xircom that works quite nicely.  The 'safe' list of linux
compatible cards can be found at pcmcia.sf.net

=

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Re: OT Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-05 Thread David A. Bandel

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 09:12:29 -0800 (PST)
begin  Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

[snip]
 
 flamebait
 Anyone going to Starbucks doesn't really appreciate good coffee anyway.
 /flamebait

Starbucks isn't real coffee.

 
 In all seriousness, i don't drink caffeine or alcohol.

Chuleta, the only thing left is sex!  Is anything with a skirt safe around
you?

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Re: KDE 3.0 is out!

2002-04-05 Thread Keith Antoine

On Friday 05 April 2002 01:29 am, Ted Ozolins wrote:
 I'm running Mandrake 8.1 on the lab rat. Downloaded the KDE3 rpm binaries
 for man8.1 and did the install. I can run kde3 from the console (runlevel
 3) How ever even though kde3 appears in the kdm login screen I still get
 KDE2. If ths was COL I would know where to set things up. Oddly the
 Mandrake rpm's set up KDE3 in /opt, whereas KDE2 is in /usr. I suppose I
 can always boot into run_level 3 and start KDE3. I just don't like things
 half done. where do I set up kdm to see KDE3?

Yes I agree that seems to be what I am experiencing too. Also was very 
suprised to see /opt/kde3 with mandrake, are they coming to their senses?

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Re: KDE 3.0 is out!

2002-04-05 Thread Tim Wunder

Keith Antoine wrote:
 On Friday 05 April 2002 01:29 am, Ted Ozolins wrote:
 
I'm running Mandrake 8.1 on the lab rat. Downloaded the KDE3 rpm binaries
for man8.1 and did the install. I can run kde3 from the console (runlevel
3) How ever even though kde3 appears in the kdm login screen I still get
KDE2. If ths was COL I would know where to set things up. Oddly the
Mandrake rpm's set up KDE3 in /opt, whereas KDE2 is in /usr. I suppose I
can always boot into run_level 3 and start KDE3. I just don't like things
half done. where do I set up kdm to see KDE3?
 
 
 Yes I agree that seems to be what I am experiencing too. Also was very 
 suprised to see /opt/kde3 with mandrake, are they coming to their senses?
 

Keith,
Did you get your sound problem worked out? Here's the link from the 
newsgroup post I mentioned earlier:
http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=1782

Regards,
Tim


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Re: OT Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-05 Thread Net Llama

--- David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In all seriousness, i don't drink caffeine or alcohol.
 
 Chuleta, the only thing left is sex!  Is anything with a skirt safe
 around
 you?

Ask my wife.

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Bill Campbell

On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:11:50PM +0100, Pam R wrote:
On Friday 05 April 2002 5:39 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 I spent all day yesterday compiling, tweaking, etc.
 I must say, for KDE, I'm impressed!
 the new kmail is pretty sweet too.. right click on an email, choose create
 filter, pick 'mailing list header' and it creates a filter with the values
 for the mailing list header! you just have to tell it what you want it do
 with the email!
 and the improvements in konqui are nice too!

And don't forget the squirming icons! Thankfully optional.

Liquid?  Squirming icons?  Sounds like they're trying to compete with the
PowerMac G4 I've been working on for the last couple of weeks.

BTW:  I've got rpm, XFree86, and quite a few other things working
under OS X (darwin), and it's a pretty nice system.  Once I get
the adapter to plug into my KVM switch so I don't have to juggle
keyboards and mice to switch back and forth to my Linux boxen, it
will be much easier to live with.

Darwin is interesting.  It's been a long time since I've worked
with a BSD system, and it's a bit like coming home to find my
wife's moved all the furniture.

Bill
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Re: KDE 3.0 is out!

2002-04-05 Thread Keith Antoine

On Thursday 04 April 2002 06:02 pm, Collins wrote:
 On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:29:00 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm running Mandrake 8.1 on the lab rat. Downloaded the KDE3 rpm
  binaries for  man8.1 and did the install. I can run kde3 from the
  console (runlevel 3) How ever even though kde3 appears in the kdm
  login screen I still get KDE2. If ths was COL I would know where to
  set things up. Oddly the Mandrake rpm's set up KDE3 in /opt, whereas
  KDE2 is in /usr. I suppose I can always boot into run_level 3 and
  start KDE3. I just don't like things half done. where do I set up kdm
  to see KDE3?

 Presuming you can start KDE3 Control Center - System - Login Manager
 - sessions.

No this then gives you a blue screen without any gui. The actual boot 
selections are a variety of WM's.

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Collins

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 13:04:19 -0500 Douglas J Hunley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 05 April 2002 13:02, Net
Llama wrote:  does it suck?
 
 not for me

KDE 3.0 only sucks if you can't tolerate a r e a l l y  b i g  h u m o n
g o u s  desktop.  It starts much quicker than 2.2.2, and I haven't
found any problems with it yet.  I'm still a sylpheed and mozilla user.

I don't have much use for most of the icons.  Irritating is the fact
that the icons don't name themselves if you hover over them with the
mouse; there's probably some control for this.

I do like the trick on the active panels display that all like named
programs are stored in one tab.  When you select the tab, you get
multiple choices.  

I'm still waiting for the next koffice release to see if it's any
better.

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Re: KDE 3.0 is out!

2002-04-05 Thread Collins

[ snips ]

On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 07:45:01 -0500 Keith Antoine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also was very suprised to see
/opt/kde3 with mandrake, are  they coming to their senses?
 
gentoo has an interesting alternative.  Since the LSB demands that most
packages be put in /usr, they create /usr/kde/2 and /usr/kde/3
directories; same thing for qt.

You can install one without disturbing the other.

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SSL and APACHE

2002-04-05 Thread Joel Hammer

I have a simple web server (apache).
I would like to enable SSL to encrypt passwords.
Is this simple to do?
Could someone give me some pointers or just point me to some simple documentation?
Thanks,
Joel


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RE: PCMCIA network/modem card

2002-04-05 Thread kbb0927

Yes,  I the SMC8040TX, about $40.

Keith B.

Randy Donohoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I used to have a Linksys PCMLM56 combo network/modem card that was 
dongle-less and worked great with my dual boot notebook. A new one runs 
about $120 and shipping. Anyone know of a dongle-less, linux-compatible 
card that's cheaper?
Thanks,
Randy Donohoe
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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Friday 05 April 2002 20:42, Jerry McBride wrote:
 Did you get a chance to play with objprelink?

where does one download it? I pulled the whole damn drectory off the ftp site, 
and didn't find it. I passed '--enable-objprelink' to the ./configure, and it 
told me it couldn't find it. things appear to be quicker even without it 
though
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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Tim Wunder

Previously, Douglas J Hunley chose to write:
 On Friday 05 April 2002 20:42, Jerry McBride wrote:
  Did you get a chance to play with objprelink?

 where does one download it? I pulled the whole damn drectory off the ftp
 site, and didn't find it. I passed '--enable-objprelink' to the
 ./configure, and it told me it couldn't find it. things appear to be
 quicker even without it though

http://leon.bottou.com/objprelink/
Link was found with a 3 second search for objprelink on google :-)

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Friday 05 April 2002 22:09, Tim Wunder wrote:
  where does one download it? I pulled the whole damn drectory off the ftp
  site, and didn't find it. I passed '--enable-objprelink' to the
  ./configure, and it told me it couldn't find it. things appear to be
  quicker even without it though

 http://leon.bottou.com/objprelink/
 Link was found with a 3 second search for objprelink on google :-)

yeah, I thought about doing the google thing, but I figured since it was 
official it should be on the damn kde ftp site. oh well. I ain't 
recompiling all this crap
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