Re: Antigen found HTML.MimeExploit (CA(Vet),McAfee4) virus
nice job! good work! I was looking for some expert opinion on the virus and the different behaviours from LookOut and Mozilla. Here's the message text in the original message. Attached is a fragment of it (not 100% original) A few lines of the message began with non-printable characters. I didn't check their ASCII value yet. mozilla didn't treat the fake attachment as attachemnt nor message text. need to use view message source to discover it. LookOut! 2000 treated it as an attachemnt (my company is a M$ shop) puzzling... ANTIGEN_VESTA wrote: Antigen for Exchange found VIRUS.TXT infected with HTML.MimeExploit (CA(Vet),McAfee4) virus. The file is currently Removed. The message, another virus against M$ LookOut, was sent from m.w.chang and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound located at washington.edu/bothell/VESTA. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: ReiserFS and lost+found
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:21:41 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scribbling feverishly on April 23, Roger Oberholtzer managed to emit: On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 10:45:50 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: directory. I have an all ReiserFS system at work and none of the filesystems have a lost+found directory. This is as of whatever patch set was necessary for kernel 2.4.5. I don't *think* Reiser uses a lost+found directory, but you could ask on the Reiser lists at namesys.com. I will. Mine is for 2.4.13 (i.e., Caldera 3.1.1). The lost+found directory is only used by the fsck utility, not the kernel. But, it must exist and have lots of empty directory entries allocated. I will next check the reiserfs fsck utility. There is no mention of lost+found in that program's man pages. Next stop: source. I also see that the mklost+found program only references ext2. But ext3 has a lost+found as well. So I cannot trust that info as being complete. It is all up to the fs-specific fsck utility. I think the argument is that the journalled metadata can be replayed, obviating the neeed for lost+found. But, like you, I'm a tad uncomfortable with that notion. I checked with our filesystems guy here and he still doesn't totally trust ReiserFS. His recommendation is good enough for me. Obviously, *no* filesystem is perfect, but I tend to trust ext3 (ext2+journalling) or one of the more time-tested filesystems like XFS or OpenAFS. We have had a bit of trouble with this Reiser setup. Of course, our equipment is installed in vehicles that measure road surface roughness. So the systems tend to bounce around a bit. But in 15 years, we have not had a hard disk failure in any system. (Looking for wood. Knonk knock.) This could just be bad luck. The Saudis are not keeping the roads up near the border with Iraq in such great shape, but they still monitor their condition. However, our roughness/speed measurements do not indicate that the hard disk was overly bounced. We will try ext3. Previously, we used UnixWare's Veriatis (bad spelling) journaling FS, which I think is simply excellent. The Linux jfs are a bit new to us. So, we are experimenting a bit as we go along. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: another virus against M$ LookOut
Scribbling feverishly on April 24, m.w.chang managed to emit: Attached is a fragment of it (not 100% original) A few lines of the message began with non-printable characters. I didn't check their ASCII value yet. mozilla didn't treat the fake attachment as attachemnt nor message text. need to use view message source to discover it. LookOut! 2000 treated it as an attachemnt (my company is a M$ shop) puzzling... This is exactly what I have been seeing here, save for the header information, which is obviosly going to vary from message to message. Kurt -- The trouble with a kitten is that When it grows up, it's always a cat -- Ogden Nash. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: RPM-Get dependency
Scribbling feverishly on April 23, Harry G managed to emit: I am using Suse 7.3 and it doesn't have it. Have downloaded it and will install. Thanks Kurt! Pretty good for a Pittsburgher! I'm in Pittsburgh, but not of it. I still consider myself a Southern boy. Kurt -- As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. -- Albert Einstein ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: another virus against M$ LookOut
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 06:40:52 -0400 begin Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: [snip] This is exactly what I have been seeing here, save for the header information, which is obviosly going to vary from message to message. yes, but the original message headers will tell you where it came from (and so tell you who's infected). David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: RPM-Get dependency
On Wednesday April 24 2002 06:54 am, you interfaced in analog form: snip The rpm-get RPM is borken (with apologies to David Bandel). If RPM is looking for the sed RPM, does RPM find it? I think you are right. I have 2 sources of this particular RPM, one a download, the other from a CD from Linux Format mag. from England, and neither works. (Both same version) Dumb question or two; if I intstalled sed from a tgz file, will rpm be able to find it, and two, what is the command to do an RPM search? TIA Harry G ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: RPM-Get dependency
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:33:13 -0400 begin Harry G [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: [snip] Dumb question or two; if I intstalled sed from a tgz file, will rpm be able to find it, and two, what is the command to do an RPM search? no. rpm -qa | grep filename Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: RPM-Get dependency
- Original Message - From: Harry G [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:58:30 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RPM-Get dependency I get no return, just goes back to the prompt. Guess sed is broke? Nope. It just means you didn't install sed via RPM. Trying grabbing the sed RPM and installing that then run the same thing and it should return something like sed-3.02-10. Tom Wilson -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Ext3 and Quotas
I recently recompiled my kernel with support for EXT3 and converted one of my partitions. When I try to setup quotas, it says No local filesystems can support quotas. I thought ext3 could support quotas. Was I wrong? Thanks, Brian ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: RPM-Get dependency
Scribbling feverishly on April 24, Harry G managed to emit: On Wednesday April 24 2002 06:54 am, you interfaced in analog form: snip The rpm-get RPM is borken (with apologies to David Bandel). If RPM is looking for the sed RPM, does RPM find it? I think you are right. I have 2 sources of this particular RPM, one a download, the other from a CD from Linux Format mag. from England, and neither works. (Both same version) Dumb question or two; if I intstalled sed from a tgz file, will rpm be able to find it, and two, what is the command to do an RPM search? No. What kind of RPM search? Kurt -- On-line, adj.: The idea that a human being should always be accessible to a computer. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Ext3 and Quotas
Brian Witowski wrote: I recently recompiled my kernel with support for EXT3 and converted one of my partitions. When I try to setup quotas, it says No local filesystems can support quotas. I thought ext3 could support quotas. Was I wrong? Thanks, Brian Did you compile your kernel with quota support? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: RPM-Get dependency SOLVED!
Thanks so much for everyones help, especially Kurt. I re-installed sed using a RPM (had to force it) and then got a new RPM of RPM-get from the authors site. Installed and is setting up OK. I will keep my fingers crossed! Once again, thanks everyone! Harry G ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: who has SuSE 8?
anyone? anyone? Yes. I got my upgrade last week. With a new puppy to care for I've not had the time I'd like to play with it. Nonetheless, it installed quite easily (in a slightly changed manner) on one workstation and I left it starting the install on my (much slower) firewall this morning. Yast2 looks a little different, too. Everyone complains about the 7 CDs, but I *think* SuSE has done something with combining RPMs, so if you want to install a normal workstation it only uses CDs 1 2, but if you want to reduce the amount of selections it uses several more (and less of 1 2). This implies, to me, that they have combined things to make a single install RPM for a group of things, but if you only want some of those it requires all the little pieces (on later CDs). I haven't had time to test speed, though. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
pre-emptable kernel patch
Anyone using the pre-emptable kernel patch for 2.4.18? I just read an article in Linux Journal and it looks interesting. As I've been doing alot of work on audio files, I'm thinking I could benefit from it. But I'd like to know if anyone is actually using it with success. I'd also need to know how to apply a kernel patch, but there's info on the SxS site about that, isn't there? Thanks, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: your opinion needed (site redesign)
Doug, Condon Thomas A KPWA spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: easier to negotiate for the kind of help we need. I notice that Bedtime Reading is gone. I assume that it is under some other header, either I thought we'd move the 'Bedtime Reading' so that it is 'inline' with whatever it is describing. I didn't see the need for a seperate heading just for that.. I think that is a good idea, I just didn't know that was what went on. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Just a note....
Received something similar. Bounced mail notification from the postmaster of my ISP. RETURNED MAIL -- NOSHADE CLASS The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NOSHADE CLASS The attachment is the original mail. I don't have a file called NOSHADE CLASS and I have never sent anything to microsoft.com. The OS I'm using is Mandrake 8.0 and the Netscape mail client and there is no record of the e-mail in question in the sent box. If this is a virus it would appear to pull a file from one computer, pull a sender and send address from the address book of that computer, but because it uses a different sender address without infecting the owner of the sender address it would be hard to track. An alternate hypothesis is that Billy the Squid and company have found a way to my box and after holding inventory e-mailed the results to themselves. Although I don't believe that is very likely. Lee Bill Day wrote: Somone on the list with their WinClient is currently infected with a email worm virus. Currently little info is known about the worm. Doug has determined that it may contain its own SMTP code and it picking addreses at random. Currently I have recieved 3 different subjects all fromt he same system: Received: from imsp074.netvigator.com (imsp074.netvigator.com [218.102.23.129]) Subjects so far: Subject: Is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds Subject: Congratulations Subject: Re:bill,let's be friends #the name will change as it is using the address book of whoever is infected. So far the spoofed addresses I have recieved are as follows: From: xcyber [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: submissions [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: langson [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thos of you using Lookout/Express check your sent folder and update your virsu scanners for the windoze boxen. Not sure what all it does at this point as I havent had time to dig into it. Doug may be looking more into at this point. -- Bill Day Linux for Windows Addicts: A Twelve Step Program for Habitual Windows Users. ISBN: 0072130814 Get it cause Ol' Billy Gates don't want you too! 8:30am up 3 days, 3:19, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
re: pre-emptable kernel patch
Tim: I've been using this patch (along with grsecurity) on the SxS site as well as several other machines for quite some time now. Absolutely love it. Simply download the patch then do: cd /usr/src/linux cat /path/to/preempt-2.4.18.patch|patch -Np1 then make menuconfig (or xconfig or whatever), enable experimental, and then enable preempt. finish compile, reboot. enjoy --Douglas J. HunleyUnix/Linux Adminhttp://www.linux-sxs.org SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue 0;0 rows returned
need more of your opinion (site redesign)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK everyone: A new 'cut' of the site redesign is up at http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ . Please it a looking over and report your opinions back here (good and bad please!) What's new this cut: 1. I've modified the newthismonth file to use a new layout. click on 'new' to see it 2. I've modified all the 'bio' pages to match the new layout 3. I've modifed the 'legal' section to match the new layout 4. I've modified the 'forums' section to match the new layout 5. I've modified the time it takes for the splash image to forward you to the homepage. it's much shorter now. 6. all 'topics' have been modified to match new format. (though some lack content) - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Wishlist: http://www.amazon.com/o/registry/48D11KZ4BPBQ panic (No CPUs found. System halted.\n); 2.4.3 linux/arch/parisc/kernel/setup.c -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8xt/wSrrWWknCnMIRAn2bAJ0YXrxYPVLudy//fYRVwXC1MxKF4ACeLXsQ qT8vKTMVDg2/FsD2F9z8THg= =YaTf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
Doug, One more note: The Internet Serving and Utilities sections take the background color from my default, while all other sections make it white (I assume you define it on those pages and not on the ones that use mine). Likewise, the top row of buttons have my default background while the left column have white. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
On Wednesday 24 April 2002 09:40 am,Douglas J Hunley wrote: OK everyone: A new 'cut' of the site redesign is up at http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ . Please it a looking over and report your opinions back here (good and bad please!) snip 2. I've modified all the 'bio' pages to match the new layout snip I want to know why there is no space for Mike Andrew's bio and why he insists on being so mysterious. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:40:16 -0400 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hunley Looks aok, but the line under the www.linux-sxs on the right is still in too tiny a font to be legible. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? Gentoo_rc6-15(1.1a) 2.4.19pre - xfce + sylpheed + mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
OT yahoo mail broken?
Anyone else with Yahoo-mail accounts notice that they're broken today? Anything sent to them bounces with an error no such user, or account disabled. I've already tried 3 different accts. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT yahoo mail broken?
Yea, i know, but it looks like they (intentionally, or accidentally, your call) deactivated *all* accounts. my understanding was that POP3 service was fee bvased starting today, but the web end was to remain free. turns out, i'm right. by pure luck, i went through all the personal preferences, reconfirming them, and it started working again. so someone at yahoo definitely screwed up. On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Andrew Mathews wrote: Net Llama! wrote: Anyone else with Yahoo-mail accounts notice that they're broken today? Anything sent to them bounces with an error no such user, or account disabled. I've already tried 3 different accts. IIRC, today is when they went to fee based pop3 services. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT yahoo mail broken?
Net Llama! wrote: Anyone else with Yahoo-mail accounts notice that they're broken today? Anything sent to them bounces with an error no such user, or account disabled. I've already tried 3 different accts. IIRC, today is when they went to fee based pop3 services. -- Andrew Mathews 2:35pm up 4 days, 18:11, 8 users, load average: 1.10, 1.10, 1.09 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Condon Thomas A KPWA spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: Doug, One more note: The Internet Serving and Utilities sections take the background color from my default, while all other sections make it white (I assume you define it on those pages and not on the ones that use mine). Likewise, the top row of buttons have my default background while the left column have white. fixed. thanks! - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Wishlist: http://www.amazon.com/o/registry/48D11KZ4BPBQ #if 0 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/fs/buffer.c -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8xyXISrrWWknCnMIRAuxiAJ9fIAGrbeCek/06OO2PYjLshqS5/gCeIWPD j6uPaiSyVSh19Sam4cmTaos= =GlMb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Condon Thomas A KPWA spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: Well laid out and has a nice feel to it. I especially like the icon for the Housekeeping section. ;-}) thanks. icons were shamelessly stolen ;) Small note: On the search page the line from the picture (LinuxStepxSteps) seems to run through the text on the left side of that bar (Search the Step-by-Step). Adjusting the text size will change this somewhat (tiny text will be almost entirely below the line). I suggest that the left side text of that bar is not based low enough. that is a relic from the old design. the search page won't look like that once the new design goes live. right now, I've got the search config files changed on the new copy, but using the search engine from the live copy. hence the screwy look.. I have not figured out why the Submit, Jobs, Store and Opinions buttons (from the top line) generate new windows, while all others enter new information into the lower-right frame of the same window. Is there a reason? steps themselves go into the frame. external sites (store, jobs, opinion) open new windows. legal documents open new windows. I can't wait for the content to get there! me neither. - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Wishlist: http://www.amazon.com/o/registry/48D11KZ4BPBQ /* When we have more time, we can teach the penguin to say * By your command or Activating turbo boost, Michael. */ 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc/prom/sun4prom.c -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8xyW7SrrWWknCnMIRAqDLAKC3+C/OLchJVvnPP0OaixymmJYcSgCgu2zq rR5xTqatUs/b8dML0lvymnY= =2RaJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: who has SuSE 8?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pam R spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: On Wednesday 24 April 2002 1:58 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: anyone? anyone? thoughts? opinions? observations? gotchas? care to review it for submission on the site? talk you into putting your opinion of it on the new opinions site? - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Wishlist: http://www.amazon.com/o/registry/48D11KZ4BPBQ Try to prove me wrong. - Linus -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8xyZoSrrWWknCnMIRAo4VAJ9FbN/2vwIdqWJt120NeJ/Ris16egCgu34o gxLV9Qyg3tTDAaNlTPTANZI= =ShGb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
On Wednesday 24 April 2002 01:06 pm,Kurt Wall wrote: Scribbling feverishly on April 24, Tony Alfrey managed to emit: I want to know why there is no space for Mike Andrew's bio and why he insists on being so mysterious. Mike instructed us to remove his bio. Kurt Isn't this like Moses asking his name to be removed from the 10 commandments? Who was it that said humility will get you nowhere ? ;-) -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
Scribbling feverishly on April 24, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK everyone: A new 'cut' of the site redesign is up at http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ . Please it a looking over and report your opinions back here (good and bad please!) What's new this cut: 1. I've modified the newthismonth file to use a new layout. click on 'new' to see it I like it. Suggest putting the thing into nice columns: DATE | ITEM | STATUS |WHO --+---+-+--- 04-22 | Another approach to installing... | New | Joe Random 04-01 | How to cheat the IRS using Linux | Updated | Bubba This takes up less space and looks easier to read to me. 2. I've modified all the 'bio' pages to match the new layout Copacetic. 3. I've modifed the 'legal' section to match the new layout Copacetic. 4. I've modified the 'forums' section to match the new layout Copacetic. 5. I've modified the time it takes for the splash image to forward you to the homepage. it's much shorter now. I'll say. The image didn't even finish downloading before the redirect kicked in. ;-) 6. all 'topics' have been modified to match new format. (though some lack content) The light colors on a white background are a bit hard to see. Kurt -- You brute! Knock before entering a ladies room! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
Tony Alfrey wrote: On Wednesday 24 April 2002 01:06 pm,Kurt Wall wrote: Scribbling feverishly on April 24, Tony Alfrey managed to emit: I want to know why there is no space for Mike Andrew's bio and why he insists on being so mysterious. Mike instructed us to remove his bio. Kurt Isn't this like Moses asking his name to be removed from the 10 commandments? Who was it that said humility will get you nowhere ? ;-) I don't think it was humility. Mike requested that he be removed from the SxS, not just the listing. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:00pm up 5 days, 23:56, 5 users, load average: 0.08, 0.05, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: pre-emptable kernel patch
WOW! On Wednesday 24 April 2002 11:55 am, DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: Tim: I've been using this patch (along with grsecurity) on the SxS site as well as several other machines for quite some time now. Absolutely love it. Simply download the patch then do: cd /usr/src/linux cat /path/to/preempt-2.4.18.patch|patch -Np1 then make menuconfig (or xconfig or whatever), enable experimental, and then enable preempt. finish compile, reboot. enjoy -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.18, KDE 3.0 from source, Xfree86 4.1.0 8:00pm up 4 min, 4 users, load average: 0.28, 0.42, 0.19 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
On Wednesday 24 April 2002 05:06 pm,Net Llama! wrote: Tony Alfrey wrote: On Wednesday 24 April 2002 01:06 pm,Kurt Wall wrote: Scribbling feverishly on April 24, Tony Alfrey managed to emit: I want to know why there is no space for Mike Andrew's bio and why he insists on being so mysterious. Mike instructed us to remove his bio. Kurt Isn't this like Moses asking his name to be removed from the 10 commandments? Who was it that said humility will get you nowhere ? ;-) I don't think it was humility. Mike requested that he be removed from the SxS, not just the listing. Oooops. Errr, did we piss him off?? I promised him I'd never use insmod again!! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: who has SuSE 8?
So, how did you manage to get the upgrade? While it's listed on SuSE's web site, when you try and purchase, no such beast. I also looked at their distributors (i.e., buy.com, amazon.com, etc) and can't find it... Any help here would be appreciated. I posted an email to SuSE to no avail... TIA - Thomas Condon wrote: anyone? anyone? Yes. I got my upgrade last week. With a new puppy to care for I've not had the time I'd like to play with it. Nonetheless, it installed quite easily (in a slightly changed manner) on one workstation and I left it starting the install on my (much slower) firewall this morning. Yast2 looks a little different, too. Everyone complains about the 7 CDs, but I *think* SuSE has done something with combining RPMs, so if you want to install a normal workstation it only uses CDs 1 2, but if you want to reduce the amount of selections it uses several more (and less of 1 2). This implies, to me, that they have combined things to make a single install RPM for a group of things, but if you only want some of those it requires all the little pieces (on later CDs). I haven't had time to test speed, though. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
Tony Alfrey wrote: On Wednesday 24 April 2002 05:06 pm,Net Llama! wrote: Tony Alfrey wrote: On Wednesday 24 April 2002 01:06 pm,Kurt Wall wrote: Scribbling feverishly on April 24, Tony Alfrey managed to emit: I want to know why there is no space for Mike Andrew's bio and why he insists on being so mysterious. Mike instructed us to remove his bio. Kurt Isn't this like Moses asking his name to be removed from the 10 commandments? Who was it that said humility will get you nowhere ? ;-) I don't think it was humility. Mike requested that he be removed from the SxS, not just the listing. Oooops. Errr, did we piss him off?? I promised him I'd never use insmod again!! You didn't do anything. In a nutshell, he wasn't happy about how certain editors were contributing to the site, and turned in his resignation. Attempts have been made to have him return, however he hasn't. I'd rather not go into specifics, because it was quite honestly a very ugly series of events that occured behind the scenes. At this point, the only important thing is that he left voluntarily, and isn't willing to return. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:55pm up 6 days, 51 min, 5 users, load average: 0.04, 0.06, 0.05 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
editors only or all contributors? ulgy? was it about those adult politics again? :) Net Llama! wrote: You didn't do anything. In a nutshell, he wasn't happy about how certain editors were contributing to the site, and turned in his resignation. Attempts have been made to have him return, however he hasn't. I'd rather not go into specifics, because it was quite honestly a very ugly series of events that occured behind the scenes. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony Alfrey spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: Isn't this like Moses asking his name to be removed from the 10 commandments? Who was it that said humility will get you nowhere ? ;-) sadly, it's not humility driving this. it's personal differences. he's still on this list, so I will leave the rest of the explaining up to him - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Wishlist: http://www.amazon.com/o/registry/48D11KZ4BPBQ /* * Hash table gook.. */ 2.4.0-test2 /usr/src/linux/fs/buffer.c -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8x1mgSrrWWknCnMIRAu1wAJ9AiGjiu28qMr1r26ar6Q8eYzGIwACaAh5C wN8vjwxtBIXwgWhxqEY1+L8= =Cz2v -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kurt Wall spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: I like it. Suggest putting the thing into nice columns: DATE | ITEM | STATUS |WHO argh! that's how I had it! *grumble* I'll say. The image didn't even finish downloading before the redirect kicked in. ;-) damnit! what browser? it appeas some of them don't start counting until the page is done, while others start counting right away. *grumble, grumble* The light colors on a white background are a bit hard to see. hmm.. how's the top headers? they look ok to you? same color, just bold... *mumble* - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Wishlist: http://www.amazon.com/o/registry/48D11KZ4BPBQ There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8x1o1SrrWWknCnMIRAj6eAKCNLCilMNykdRYJzs90xZYx97yowwCeIvOi pk6D4uthwcV2lcvpSfTStSM= =zFcK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: who has SuSE 8?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Susan Macchia spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: So, how did you manage to get the upgrade? While it's listed on SuSE's web site, when you try and purchase, no such beast. I also looked at their distributors (i.e., buy.com, amazon.com, etc) and can't find it... Any help here would be appreciated. I posted an email to SuSE to no avail... if it's anything like their prior upgrades, you have to call them and talk to a human to get the upgrade price. just shooting from the hip here.. - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Wishlist: http://www.amazon.com/o/registry/48D11KZ4BPBQ panic(Tell me what a watchpoint trap is, and I'll then deal with such a beast...); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/arch/sparc/kernel/traps.c -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8x1qESrrWWknCnMIRAriOAJ4mbEXRZLTFHC6S1z8MTGsAG8fHpQCfZUIS uYSUB0+/6NCLL1n7ev1cO54= =ihU9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Douglas J Hunley spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: sadly, it's not humility driving this. it's personal differences. he's still on this list, so I will leave the rest of the explaining up to him whoops. I see this has already been discussed. back to the corner for me - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Wishlist: http://www.amazon.com/o/registry/48D11KZ4BPBQ My mind works like lightning. One brilliant flash and it's gone. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8x1qfSrrWWknCnMIRAuy0AKC9Hcibik3Pltc3eYW4IS4WqUye9QCgzqfV tlT4nq4H84i3wWNPVB1S1aI= =JZhL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
Scribbling feverishly on April 24, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: [...] My mind works like lightning. One brilliant flash and it's gone. I resemble this remark. One flash of brilliance, then utter darkness... Kurt -- Laugh at your problems; everybody else does. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
Scribbling feverishly on April 24, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kurt Wall spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: I like it. Suggest putting the thing into nice columns: DATE | ITEM | STATUS |WHO argh! that's how I had it! *grumble* Just a suggestion. Feel free to disregard it. I'll say. The image didn't even finish downloading before the redirect kicked in. ;-) damnit! what browser? it appeas some of them don't start counting until the page is done, while others start counting right away. *grumble, grumble* Nutscrape 4.79. No biggie as far as I'm concerned. The light colors on a white background are a bit hard to see. hmm.. how's the top headers? they look ok to you? same color, just bold... They showed up on a grey background, so were easier to see. My problems (such as they were) could be an artifact of the way I have my browser configured. *mumble* Just data points, Doug. I wouldn't change anything based on my input alone. Hell, I look at the joint off and on all day long (it's my home page). Kurt -- What is the robbing of a bank compared to the FOUNDING of a bank? -- Bertold Brecht ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kurt Wall spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: Just a suggestion. Feel free to disregard it. ok! j/k anyone else care to chime in? They showed up on a grey background, so were easier to see. My grey? wtf? Just data points, Doug. I wouldn't change anything based on my input alone. Hell, I look at the joint off and on all day long (it's my home page). valid points though.. really want everyone to have a say in this... - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Wishlist: http://www.amazon.com/o/registry/48D11KZ4BPBQ And yes, I actually do believe in what I'm saying. - Linus -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8x184SrrWWknCnMIRAt99AKCwDcXf34N6VLhu+5MsVlIcMTkEzgCdHOmX kxQo9K9vTzeVdinLOlVYspE= =xCjW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)
from Net Llama!: I don't think it was humility. Mike requested that he be removed from the SxS, not just the listing. I will miss his comments and help. R -- http://www.quen.net You did not care to allow rewards to be won by successful production - you are now running a race in which rewards are won by successful plunder. -John Galt (Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged) ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: who has SuSE 8?
I received it yesterday, and I must say that I am very disappointed so far. After two unsuccessful installations, I have gone back to COL WS 3.1.1 for now. I may give it another try if I can find any ideas on why my first attempts failed, but not before the weekend now. My system has a 1GHz Athlon processor on a Tyan motherboard with 768MB RAM, ATI Radeon AGP graphics card, 3 IDE hard drives and an IDE DVD drive, BusLogic and Adaptec SCSI adapters, etc., and everything works with COL. For my first attempt with SuSE 8, I selected a lot of the included software packages, totalling approximately 6 GB. Other than the fact that it took several hours to select the software and install it, the install seemed to go OK, and I was able to configure the printers and DHCP (for my cable modem) without any trouble. The problems began with configuring X. At my preferred setting of 1600x1200, 24-bit color, 75 Hz, the display was very dark and the colors were incorrect. After everything was configured and I started KDE, I was able to open a terminal window and run one command. Then the mouse cursor disappeared, the hard drive light came on, and the system stopped responding to either the mouse or keyboard. Eventually I gave up and did a reset. I reconfigured the video to 1280x1024, which produced better colors, although there was a dard shadow approximately 1/2 inch wide down the left side of the monitor and other shadows. After a few minutes, the hard drive light once again came on and the system stopped responding to input. Over the next 16 hours or so, I did several resets, but it always locked up within minutes of starting KDE and never came back, including the one time that I gave it about 10 hours. I tried a second install this evening, installing a much smaller selection of software packages, but I got the same results, and after a couple of reboots, I blew it away and reinstalled COL. I was really hoping for a distribution with more up-to-date software than COL, and I especially wanted KDE 3 and GNOME so that I could try some other programs I've been wanting to experiment with, but SuSE 8 still needs some work based on my experience to be a suitable replacement for COL. Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pam R spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: On Wednesday 24 April 2002 1:58 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: anyone? anyone? thoughts? opinions? observations? gotchas? care to review it for submission on the site? talk you into putting your opinion of it on the new opinions site? - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Wishlist: http://www.amazon.com/o/registry/48D11KZ4BPBQ Try to prove me wrong. - Linus -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8xyZoSrrWWknCnMIRAo4VAJ9FbN/2vwIdqWJt120NeJ/Ris16egCgu34o gxLV9Qyg3tTDAaNlTPTANZI= =ShGb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- J. Allen Crider Huntsville, AL [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: who has SuSE 8?
During any of this, did you check your logs to see what was occuring? This sounds like some kind of hardware failure to me. J. Allen Crider wrote: I received it yesterday, and I must say that I am very disappointed so far. After two unsuccessful installations, I have gone back to COL WS 3.1.1 for now. I may give it another try if I can find any ideas on why my first attempts failed, but not before the weekend now. My system has a 1GHz Athlon processor on a Tyan motherboard with 768MB RAM, ATI Radeon AGP graphics card, 3 IDE hard drives and an IDE DVD drive, BusLogic and Adaptec SCSI adapters, etc., and everything works with COL. For my first attempt with SuSE 8, I selected a lot of the included software packages, totalling approximately 6 GB. Other than the fact that it took several hours to select the software and install it, the install seemed to go OK, and I was able to configure the printers and DHCP (for my cable modem) without any trouble. The problems began with configuring X. At my preferred setting of 1600x1200, 24-bit color, 75 Hz, the display was very dark and the colors were incorrect. After everything was configured and I started KDE, I was able to open a terminal window and run one command. Then the mouse cursor disappeared, the hard drive light came on, and the system stopped responding to either the mouse or keyboard. Eventually I gave up and did a reset. I reconfigured the video to 1280x1024, which produced better colors, although there was a dard shadow approximately 1/2 inch wide down the left side of the monitor and other shadows. After a few minutes, the hard drive light once again came on and the system stopped responding to input. Over the next 16 hours or so, I did several resets, but it always locked up within minutes of starting KDE and never came back, including the one time that I gave it about 10 hours. I tried a second install this evening, installing a much smaller selection of software packages, but I got the same results, and after a couple of reboots, I blew it away and reinstalled COL. I was really hoping for a distribution with more up-to-date software than COL, and I especially wanted KDE 3 and GNOME so that I could try some other programs I've been wanting to experiment with, but SuSE 8 still needs some work based on my experience to be a suitable replacement for COL. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:00pm up 6 days, 1:56, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.05, 0.07 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
webcam stuff (Skippy especially)
Keith, I've just about caught up to you here. I'm trying to build linuxvideostudio, and the compile is bombing out here: gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -O2 -funroll-loops -ffast-math -malign-double -mcpu=pentiumpro -march=pentiumpro -f omit-frame-pointer -fno-exceptions -c -o libyuv4mpeg_a-y4m12.o `test -f y4m12.c || echo './'`y4m12.c In file included from y4m12.c:8: y4m12.h:5: yuv4mpeg.h: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [libyuv4mpeg_a-y4m12.o] Error 1 The odd thing is, the file that it can't find appears to only be a part of mjpegtools-1.6, and not 1.4 (even though both are supposed to work). Keith Antoine wrote: On Sunday 21 April 2002 02:44, you wrote: Ahh, this is where I am at the moment, so maybe I can return the favour. I have been using a pinnacle Rave pro and started with Streamer that comes with Xawtv, rapidly gave this the flick as its VERY limitted and am now using the mjpegtools lavrec to record, far more flexible. BTW the linuxvideoStudio that I am in troublw with is gui for mjpegtools. Most of the software defaults to an assumption that you have a mjpeg card, so I have to tell it : lavrec -f a -n 40 -i t -g 352x288 -q 80 -s -l 80 -R l --software-encoding /backup/movies/test.avi Withe the tools one can also tell it to record from line in, iT tells it to look for tuner input. I got mine working for the first time properly last night with the above script. No dropped frames and clean audio. So what software are you using for capture, there are many out there and over the past 4 months I have used most of them., even mainactor will do a good capture. There is another bttv style prog for cards too called Taztv which might do the camera too. I believe that most capture software will work with cameras if they follow the bttv std. When I have finished and can capture from a gui and then edit and play with the reults, put it down to a cdr and watch it on either computer or DVD player then I'll be doing a complete SxS, once again. THe 2nd is that xawtv refuses to obey the resolution parameter that i'm feeding it: xawtv -geometry 352x288-0+0 and keeps defaulting back to 128x96 (which looks like crap). My camera is definitely capable of doing 640x480 @16fps, so its not a hardware limitation. I'm seeing this error from xawtv as it defaults to the lesser resolution: ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(0,fmt=7,size=128x96): Invalid argument Even if i run it without the higher resolution , the same error appears. And the final error is occuring whenver i try to take a snapshot with the camera: JPEG parameter struct mismatch: library thinks size is 372, caller expects 376 My research seems to indicate that this is a bug in an older version of libjpeg (like version 6a). However, i've got libjpeg-6b-18 which is basically the newest stable release, so i'm stumped. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 8:20pm up 6 days, 3:16, 5 users, load average: 0.11, 0.10, 0.04 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.