Re: Antigen found HTML.MimeExploit (CA(Vet),McAfee4) virus

2002-04-24 Thread m.w.chang

nice job! good work!

I was looking for some expert opinion on the virus and the different 
behaviours from LookOut and Mozilla. Here's the message text in the 
original message.

Attached is a fragment of it (not 100% original)
A few lines of the message began with non-printable characters. I didn't 
check their ASCII value yet.

mozilla didn't treat the fake attachment as attachemnt nor message text.
need to use view message source to discover it.

LookOut! 2000 treated it as an attachemnt (my company is a M$ shop)

puzzling...

ANTIGEN_VESTA wrote:
 Antigen for Exchange found VIRUS.TXT infected with HTML.MimeExploit
 (CA(Vet),McAfee4) virus.
 The file is currently Removed.  The message, another virus against M$
 LookOut, was
 sent from m.w.chang  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
 located at washington.edu/bothell/VESTA.

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Re: ReiserFS and lost+found

2002-04-24 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:21:41 -0400
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Scribbling feverishly on April 23, Roger Oberholtzer managed to emit:
  On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 10:45:50 -0400
  Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   directory. I have an all ReiserFS system at work and none of the
   filesystems have a lost+found directory. This is as of whatever patch
   set was necessary for kernel 2.4.5. I don't *think* Reiser uses a
   lost+found directory, but you could ask on the Reiser lists at
   namesys.com.
  
  I will. Mine is for 2.4.13 (i.e., Caldera 3.1.1). The lost+found
  directory is only used by the fsck utility, not the kernel. But, it must
  exist and have lots of empty directory entries allocated. I will next
  check the reiserfs fsck utility. There is no mention of lost+found in
  that program's man pages. Next stop: source. I also see that the
  mklost+found program only references ext2. But ext3 has a lost+found as
  well. So I cannot trust that info as being complete. It is all up to the
  fs-specific fsck utility.
 
 I think the argument is that the journalled metadata can be replayed,
 obviating the neeed for lost+found. But, like you, I'm a tad
 uncomfortable with that notion. I checked with our filesystems guy
 here and he still doesn't totally trust ReiserFS. His recommendation
 is good enough for me. Obviously, *no* filesystem is perfect, but I
 tend to trust ext3 (ext2+journalling) or one of the more time-tested
 filesystems like XFS or OpenAFS.

We have had a bit of trouble with this Reiser setup. Of course, our
equipment is installed in vehicles that measure road surface roughness. So
the systems tend to bounce around a bit. But in 15 years, we have not had a
hard disk failure in any system. (Looking for wood. Knonk knock.) This could
just be bad luck. The Saudis are not keeping the roads up near the
border with Iraq in such great shape, but they still monitor their
condition. However, our roughness/speed measurements do not indicate that
the hard disk was overly bounced.

We will try ext3. Previously, we used UnixWare's Veriatis (bad spelling)
journaling FS, which I think is simply excellent. The Linux jfs are
a bit new to us. So, we are experimenting a bit as we go along.

-- 
++===+
| Roger Oberholtzer  |   E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |
| OPQ Systems AB |  WWW:  http://www.opq.se/ |
| Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43  |Phone: Int + 46 8   314223 |
| 115 32 Stockholm   |   Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 |
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Re: another virus against M$ LookOut

2002-04-24 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on April 24, m.w.chang managed to emit:
 Attached is a fragment of it (not 100% original)
 A few lines of the message began with non-printable characters. I didn't 
 check their ASCII value yet.
 
 mozilla didn't treat the fake attachment as attachemnt nor message text.
 need to use view message source to discover it.
 
 LookOut! 2000 treated it as an attachemnt (my company is a M$ shop)
 
 puzzling...

This is exactly what I have been seeing here, save for the header
information, which is obviosly going to vary from message to message.

Kurt
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When it grows up, it's always a cat
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Re: RPM-Get dependency

2002-04-24 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on April 23, Harry G managed to emit:
 I am using Suse 7.3 and it doesn't have it.  Have downloaded it and 
 will install.
 
 Thanks Kurt!  Pretty good for a Pittsburgher!

I'm in Pittsburgh, but not of it. I still consider myself a Southern
boy.

Kurt
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As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not
certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality.
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Re: another virus against M$ LookOut

2002-04-24 Thread David A. Bandel

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 06:40:52 -0400
begin  Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

[snip]
 
 This is exactly what I have been seeing here, save for the header
 information, which is obviosly going to vary from message to message.
 

yes, but the original message headers will tell you where it came from
(and so tell you who's infected).

David A. Bandel
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Re: RPM-Get dependency

2002-04-24 Thread Harry G

On Wednesday April 24 2002 06:54 am, you interfaced in analog form:
snip

 The rpm-get RPM is borken (with apologies to David Bandel). If RPM is
 looking for the sed RPM, does RPM find it?

I think you are right.  I have 2 sources of this particular RPM, one a 
download, the other from a CD from Linux Format mag. from England, and 
neither works. (Both same version)

Dumb question or two; if I intstalled sed from a tgz file, will rpm be 
able to find it, and two, what is the command to do an RPM search?

TIA

Harry G

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Re: RPM-Get dependency

2002-04-24 Thread David A. Bandel

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:33:13 -0400
begin  Harry G [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

[snip]
 
 Dumb question or two; if I intstalled sed from a tgz file, will rpm be 
 able to find it, and two, what is the command to do an RPM search?

no.

rpm -qa | grep filename

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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Re: RPM-Get dependency

2002-04-24 Thread Tom Wilson


- Original Message -
From: Harry G [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:58:30 -0400 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RPM-Get dependency


 I get no return, just goes back to the prompt.  
 
 Guess sed is broke?

Nope.  It just means you didn't install sed via RPM.  Trying grabbing the sed RPM and 
installing that then run the same thing and it should return something like 
sed-3.02-10.  

Tom Wilson
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Ext3 and Quotas

2002-04-24 Thread Brian Witowski

I recently recompiled my kernel with support for EXT3 and converted one of
my partitions.  When I try to setup quotas, it says No local filesystems
can support quotas.  I thought ext3 could support quotas.  Was I wrong?


Thanks,
Brian


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Re: RPM-Get dependency

2002-04-24 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on April 24, Harry G managed to emit:
 On Wednesday April 24 2002 06:54 am, you interfaced in analog form:
 snip
 
  The rpm-get RPM is borken (with apologies to David Bandel). If RPM is
  looking for the sed RPM, does RPM find it?
 
 I think you are right.  I have 2 sources of this particular RPM, one a 
 download, the other from a CD from Linux Format mag. from England, and 
 neither works. (Both same version)
 
 Dumb question or two; if I intstalled sed from a tgz file, will rpm be 
 able to find it, and two, what is the command to do an RPM search?

No. What kind of RPM search? 

Kurt
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The idea that a human being should always be accessible to a
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Re: Ext3 and Quotas

2002-04-24 Thread Tim Wunder

Brian Witowski wrote:
 I recently recompiled my kernel with support for EXT3 and converted one of
 my partitions.  When I try to setup quotas, it says No local filesystems
 can support quotas.  I thought ext3 could support quotas.  Was I wrong?
 
 
 Thanks,
 Brian
 
 

Did you compile your kernel with quota support?




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Re: RPM-Get dependency SOLVED!

2002-04-24 Thread Harry G

Thanks so much for everyones help, especially Kurt.  I re-installed sed 
using a RPM (had to force it) and then got a new RPM of RPM-get from 
the authors site.

Installed and is setting up OK.  I will keep my fingers crossed!

Once again, thanks everyone!

Harry G
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RE: who has SuSE 8?

2002-04-24 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA


 anyone? anyone?

Yes.  I got my upgrade last week.  With a new puppy to care for I've not had
the time I'd like to play with it.  Nonetheless, it installed quite easily
(in a slightly changed manner) on one workstation and I left it starting the
install on my (much slower) firewall this morning.  Yast2 looks a little
different, too.

Everyone complains about the 7 CDs, but I *think* SuSE has done something
with combining RPMs, so if you want to install a normal workstation it only
uses CDs 1  2, but if you want to reduce the amount of selections it uses
several more (and less of 1  2).  This implies, to me, that they have
combined things to make a single install RPM for a group of things, but if
you only want some of those it requires all the little pieces (on later
CDs).

I haven't had time to test speed, though.


In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,

Tom  :-})

Thomas A. Condon
Barbershop Bass Singer
Registered Linux User #154358

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pre-emptable kernel patch

2002-04-24 Thread Tim Wunder

Anyone using the pre-emptable kernel patch for 2.4.18?
I just read an article in Linux Journal and it looks interesting. As 
I've been doing alot of work on audio files, I'm thinking I could 
benefit from it. But I'd like to know if anyone is actually using it 
with success. I'd also need to know how to apply a kernel patch, but 
there's info on the SxS site about that, isn't there?

Thanks,
Tim

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RE: your opinion needed (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA


Doug,

 Condon Thomas A KPWA spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
  easier to negotiate for the kind of help we need.  I notice 
 that Bedtime
  Reading is gone.  I assume that it is under some other 
 header, either
 
 I thought we'd move the 'Bedtime Reading' so that it is 
 'inline' with whatever 
 it is describing. I didn't see the need for a seperate 
 heading just for 
 that..

I think that is a good idea, I just didn't know that was what went on.


In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,

Tom  :-})

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Re: Just a note....

2002-04-24 Thread Lee

Received something similar. Bounced mail notification from the
postmaster of my ISP.

RETURNED MAIL -- NOSHADE CLASS
The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NOSHADE CLASS
The attachment is the original mail.

I don't have a file called NOSHADE CLASS and I have never sent anything
to microsoft.com. The OS I'm using is Mandrake 8.0 and the Netscape mail
client and there is no record of the e-mail in question in the sent box.
If this is a virus it would appear to pull a file from one computer,
pull a sender and send address from the address book of that computer,
but because it uses a different sender address without infecting the
owner of the sender address it would be hard to track.

An alternate hypothesis is that Billy the Squid and company have found a
way to my box and after holding inventory  e-mailed the results to
themselves. Although I don't believe that is very likely. 

Lee
Bill Day wrote:
 
 Somone on the list with their WinClient is currently infected with a email
 worm virus.
 
 Currently little info is known about the worm.  Doug has determined that it
 may contain its own SMTP code and it picking addreses at random.
 
 Currently I have recieved 3 different subjects all fromt he same system:
 Received: from imsp074.netvigator.com (imsp074.netvigator.com
 [218.102.23.129])
 
 Subjects so far:
 Subject: Is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds
 Subject: Congratulations
 Subject: Re:bill,let's be friends   #the name will change as it is using the
 address book of whoever is infected.
 
 So far the spoofed addresses I have recieved are as follows:
 From: xcyber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: submissions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: burns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: langson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: doug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Thos of you using Lookout/Express check your sent folder and update your
 virsu scanners for the windoze boxen.  Not sure what all it does at this
 point as I havent had time to dig into it.  Doug may be looking more into at
 this point.
 
 --
   Bill Day
 
   Linux for Windows Addicts:
   A Twelve Step Program for Habitual Windows Users.
   ISBN: 0072130814
 
   Get it cause Ol' Billy Gates don't want you too!
 
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re: pre-emptable kernel patch

2002-04-24 Thread DOUGLAS HUNLEY



Tim:
I've been using this patch (along with grsecurity) on the SxS 
site as well as several other machines for quite some time now. Absolutely love 
it. Simply download the patch then do:
cd /usr/src/linux
cat /path/to/preempt-2.4.18.patch|patch -Np1

then make menuconfig (or xconfig or whatever), enable 
experimental, and then enable preempt. finish compile, reboot. 
enjoy

--Douglas J. HunleyUnix/Linux Adminhttp://www.linux-sxs.org

 SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue  0;0 rows 
returned


need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Douglas J Hunley

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

OK everyone:
A new 'cut' of the site redesign is up at http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ . 
Please it a looking over and report your opinions back here (good and bad 
please!)

What's new this cut:
1. I've modified the newthismonth file to use a new layout. click on 'new' to 
see it
2. I've modified all the 'bio' pages to match the new layout
3. I've modifed the 'legal' section to match the new layout
4. I've modified the 'forums' section to match the new layout
5. I've modified the time it takes for the splash image to forward you to the 
homepage. it's much shorter now.
6. all 'topics' have been modified to match new format. (though some lack 
content)
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RE: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA


Doug,

One more note:

The Internet Serving and Utilities sections take the background color
from my default, while all other sections make it white (I assume you define
it on those pages and not on the ones that use mine).  Likewise, the top row
of buttons have my default background while the left column have white.


In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,

Tom  :-})

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Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Wednesday 24 April 2002 09:40 am,Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 OK everyone:
   A new 'cut' of the site redesign is up at
 http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ .
 Please it a looking over and report
 your opinions back here (good and bad please!)
 
snip
 2. I've modified all the 'bio' pages to match the new layout
snip

I want to know why there is no space for Mike Andrew's bio and why he 
insists on being so mysterious.

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Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Collins

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:40:16 -0400 Douglas J Hunley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hunley

Looks aok, but the line under the www.linux-sxs on the right is still
in too tiny a font to be legible.
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OT yahoo mail broken?

2002-04-24 Thread Net Llama!

Anyone else with Yahoo-mail accounts notice that they're broken today?
Anything sent to them bounces with an error no such user, or account
disabled.  I've already tried 3 different accts.

-- 
~~
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Re: OT yahoo mail broken?

2002-04-24 Thread Net Llama!

Yea, i know, but it looks like they (intentionally, or accidentally, your
call) deactivated *all* accounts.  my understanding was that POP3 service
was fee bvased starting today, but the web end was to remain free.

turns out, i'm right.  by pure luck, i went through all the personal
preferences,
reconfirming them, and it started working again.  so someone at yahoo
definitely screwed up.

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Andrew Mathews wrote:



 Net Llama! wrote:

  Anyone else with Yahoo-mail accounts notice that they're broken today?
  Anything sent to them bounces with an error no such user, or account
  disabled.  I've already tried 3 different accts.
 
 

 IIRC, today is when they went to fee based pop3 services.


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Re: OT yahoo mail broken?

2002-04-24 Thread Andrew Mathews



Net Llama! wrote:

 Anyone else with Yahoo-mail accounts notice that they're broken today?
 Anything sent to them bounces with an error no such user, or account
 disabled.  I've already tried 3 different accts.
 
 

IIRC, today is when they went to fee based pop3 services.
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Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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Condon Thomas A KPWA spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
 Doug,

 One more note:

 The Internet Serving and Utilities sections take the background color
 from my default, while all other sections make it white (I assume you
 define it on those pages and not on the ones that use mine).  Likewise, the
 top row of buttons have my default background while the left column have
 white.

fixed. thanks!
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Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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Condon Thomas A KPWA spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
 Well laid out and has a nice feel to it.  I especially like the icon for
 the Housekeeping section.  ;-})

thanks. icons were shamelessly stolen ;)


 Small note:  On the search page the line from the picture (LinuxStepxSteps)
 seems to run through the text on the left side of that bar (Search the
 Step-by-Step).  Adjusting the text size will change this somewhat (tiny
 text will be almost entirely below the line).  I suggest that the left side
 text of that bar is not based low enough.

that is a relic from the old design. the search page won't look like that once 
the new design goes live. right now, I've got the search config files changed 
on the new copy, but using the search engine from the live copy. hence the 
screwy look..


 I have not figured out why the Submit, Jobs, Store and Opinions buttons
 (from the top line) generate new windows, while all others enter new
 information into the lower-right frame of the same window.  Is there a
 reason?

steps themselves go into the frame. external sites (store, jobs, opinion) open 
new windows. legal documents open new windows.


 I can't wait for the content to get there!

me neither.

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Re: who has SuSE 8?

2002-04-24 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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Pam R spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
 On Wednesday 24 April 2002 1:58 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
  anyone? anyone?

thoughts? opinions? observations? gotchas?

care to review it for submission on the site? talk you into putting your 
opinion of it on the new opinions site?
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OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Wednesday 24 April 2002 01:06 pm,Kurt Wall wrote:
 Scribbling feverishly on April 24, Tony Alfrey managed to emit:
  I want to know why there is no space for Mike Andrew's bio and why
  he insists on being so mysterious.

 Mike instructed us to remove his bio.

 Kurt

Isn't this like Moses asking his name to be removed from the 10 
commandments?  Who was it that said humility will get you
nowhere ?   ;-)

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Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on April 24, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit:
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 OK everyone:
   A new 'cut' of the site redesign is up at http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ . 
 Please it a looking over and report your opinions back here (good and bad 
 please!)
 
 What's new this cut:
 1. I've modified the newthismonth file to use a new layout. click on 'new' to 
 see it

I like it. Suggest putting the thing into nice columns:

DATE  | ITEM  | STATUS  |WHO
--+---+-+---
04-22 | Another approach to installing... | New | Joe Random
04-01 | How to cheat the IRS using Linux  | Updated | Bubba

This takes up less space and looks easier to read to me.

 2. I've modified all the 'bio' pages to match the new layout

Copacetic.

 3. I've modifed the 'legal' section to match the new layout

Copacetic.

 4. I've modified the 'forums' section to match the new layout

Copacetic.

 5. I've modified the time it takes for the splash image to forward you to the 
 homepage. it's much shorter now.

I'll say. The image didn't even finish downloading before the
redirect kicked in. ;-)

 6. all 'topics' have been modified to match new format. (though some lack 
 content)

The light colors on a white background are a bit hard to see.

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Re: OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Net Llama!

Tony Alfrey wrote:
 On Wednesday 24 April 2002 01:06 pm,Kurt Wall wrote:
 
Scribbling feverishly on April 24, Tony Alfrey managed to emit:

I want to know why there is no space for Mike Andrew's bio and why
he insists on being so mysterious.

Mike instructed us to remove his bio.

Kurt
 
 
 Isn't this like Moses asking his name to be removed from the 10 
 commandments?  Who was it that said humility will get you
 nowhere ?   ;-)

I don't think it was humility.  Mike requested that he be removed from 
the SxS, not just the listing.


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Re: pre-emptable kernel patch

2002-04-24 Thread Tim Wunder

WOW!

On Wednesday 24 April 2002 11:55 am, DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote:
 Tim:
 I've been using this patch (along with grsecurity) on the SxS site as well
 as several other machines for quite some time now. Absolutely love it.
 Simply download the patch then do: cd /usr/src/linux
 cat /path/to/preempt-2.4.18.patch|patch -Np1

 then make menuconfig (or xconfig or whatever), enable experimental, and
 then enable preempt. finish compile, reboot. enjoy

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Re: OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Wednesday 24 April 2002 05:06 pm,Net Llama! wrote:
 Tony Alfrey wrote:
  On Wednesday 24 April 2002 01:06 pm,Kurt Wall wrote:
 Scribbling feverishly on April 24, Tony Alfrey managed to emit:
 I want to know why there is no space for Mike Andrew's bio and why
 he insists on being so mysterious.
 
 Mike instructed us to remove his bio.
 
 Kurt
 
  Isn't this like Moses asking his name to be removed from the 10
  commandments?  Who was it that said humility will get you
  nowhere ?   ;-)

 I don't think it was humility.  Mike requested that he be removed
 from the SxS, not just the listing.

Oooops.  Errr, did we piss him off??  I promised him I'd never use 
insmod again!! 

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RE: who has SuSE 8?

2002-04-24 Thread Susan Macchia

So, how did you manage to get the upgrade?  While it's listed on SuSE's web
site, when you try and purchase, no such beast.  I also looked at their
distributors (i.e., buy.com, amazon.com, etc) and can't find it...

Any help here would be appreciated.  I posted an email to SuSE to no avail...

TIA

- Thomas Condon wrote:
 anyone? anyone?

Yes.  I got my upgrade last week.  With a new puppy to care for I've not had
the time I'd like to play with it.  Nonetheless, it installed quite easily
(in a slightly changed manner) on one workstation and I left it starting the
install on my (much slower) firewall this morning.  Yast2 looks a little
different, too.

Everyone complains about the 7 CDs, but I *think* SuSE has done something
with combining RPMs, so if you want to install a normal workstation it only
uses CDs 1  2, but if you want to reduce the amount of selections it uses
several more (and less of 1  2).  This implies, to me, that they have
combined things to make a single install RPM for a group of things, but if
you only want some of those it requires all the little pieces (on later
CDs).

I haven't had time to test speed, though.


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Tom  :-})


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Re: OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Net Llama!

Tony Alfrey wrote:
 On Wednesday 24 April 2002 05:06 pm,Net Llama! wrote:
 
Tony Alfrey wrote:

On Wednesday 24 April 2002 01:06 pm,Kurt Wall wrote:

Scribbling feverishly on April 24, Tony Alfrey managed to emit:

I want to know why there is no space for Mike Andrew's bio and why
he insists on being so mysterious.

Mike instructed us to remove his bio.

Kurt

Isn't this like Moses asking his name to be removed from the 10
commandments?  Who was it that said humility will get you
nowhere ?   ;-)

I don't think it was humility.  Mike requested that he be removed
from the SxS, not just the listing.
 
 
 Oooops.  Errr, did we piss him off??  I promised him I'd never use 
 insmod again!! 

You didn't do anything.  In a nutshell, he wasn't happy about how 
certain editors were contributing to the site, and turned in his 
resignation.  Attempts have been made to have him return, however he hasn't.

I'd rather not go into specifics, because it was quite honestly a very 
ugly series of events that occured behind the scenes.

At this point, the only important thing is that he left voluntarily, and 
isn't willing to return.


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Re: OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread m.w.chang

editors only or all contributors?
ulgy? was it about those adult politics again? :)

Net Llama! wrote:
 You didn't do anything.  In a nutshell, he wasn't happy about how 
 certain editors were contributing to the site, and turned in his 
 resignation.  Attempts have been made to have him return, however he 
 hasn't.
 I'd rather not go into specifics, because it was quite honestly a very 
 ugly series of events that occured behind the scenes.

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Re: OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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 nowhere ?   ;-)

sadly, it's not humility driving this. it's personal differences. he's still 
on this list, so I will leave the rest of the explaining up to him
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Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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Kurt Wall spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
 I like it. Suggest putting the thing into nice columns:

 DATE  | ITEM  | STATUS  |WHO

argh! that's how I had it!
*grumble*

 I'll say. The image didn't even finish downloading before the
 redirect kicked in. ;-)

damnit! what browser? it appeas some of them don't start counting until the 
page is done, while others start counting right away. *grumble, grumble*

 The light colors on a white background are a bit hard to see.

hmm.. how's the top headers? they look ok to you? same color, just bold...

*mumble*
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Re: who has SuSE 8?

2002-04-24 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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Susan Macchia spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
 So, how did you manage to get the upgrade?  While it's listed on SuSE's web
 site, when you try and purchase, no such beast.  I also looked at their
 distributors (i.e., buy.com, amazon.com, etc) and can't find it...

 Any help here would be appreciated.  I posted an email to SuSE to no
 avail...

if it's anything like their prior upgrades, you have to call them and talk to 
a human to get the upgrade price. just shooting from the hip here..
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deal with such a beast...);
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Re: OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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Douglas J Hunley spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
 sadly, it's not humility driving this. it's personal differences. he's
 still on this list, so I will leave the rest of the explaining up to him

whoops. I see this has already been discussed. back to the corner for me
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Re: OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on April 24, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit:

[...]

 My mind works like lightning. One brilliant flash and it's gone.

I resemble this remark. One flash of brilliance, then utter
darkness...

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Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on April 24, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit:
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 Kurt Wall spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
  I like it. Suggest putting the thing into nice columns:
 
  DATE  | ITEM  | STATUS  |WHO
 
 argh! that's how I had it!
 *grumble*

Just a suggestion. Feel free to disregard it.
 
  I'll say. The image didn't even finish downloading before the
  redirect kicked in. ;-)
 
 damnit! what browser? it appeas some of them don't start counting until the 
 page is done, while others start counting right away. *grumble, grumble*

Nutscrape 4.79. No biggie as far as I'm concerned.
 
  The light colors on a white background are a bit hard to see.
 
 hmm.. how's the top headers? they look ok to you? same color, just bold...

They showed up on a grey background, so were easier to see. My
problems (such as they were) could be an artifact of the way I have my 
browser configured.

 *mumble*

Just data points, Doug. I wouldn't change anything based on my input
alone. Hell, I look at the joint off and on all day long (it's my
home page).

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Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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Kurt Wall spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
 Just a suggestion. Feel free to disregard it.

ok! j/k

anyone else care to chime in?

 They showed up on a grey background, so were easier to see. My

grey? wtf?

 Just data points, Doug. I wouldn't change anything based on my input
 alone. Hell, I look at the joint off and on all day long (it's my
 home page).

valid points though.. really want everyone to have a say in this...
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Re: OT Re: need more of your opinion (site redesign)

2002-04-24 Thread R. Quenett

from Net Llama!:

 I don't think it was humility.  Mike requested that he be removed from 
 the SxS, not just the listing.

I will miss his comments and help.

R

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Re: who has SuSE 8?

2002-04-24 Thread J. Allen Crider

I received it yesterday, and I must say that I am very disappointed so 
far.  After two unsuccessful installations, I have gone back to COL WS 
3.1.1 for now.  I may give it another try if I can find any ideas on why 
my first attempts failed, but not before the weekend now.

My system has a 1GHz Athlon processor on a Tyan motherboard with 768MB 
RAM, ATI Radeon AGP graphics card, 3 IDE hard drives and an IDE DVD 
drive, BusLogic and Adaptec SCSI adapters, etc., and everything works 
with COL.

For my first attempt with SuSE 8, I selected a lot of the included 
software packages, totalling approximately 6 GB.  Other than the fact 
that it took several hours to select the software and install it, the 
install seemed to go OK, and I was able to configure the printers and 
DHCP (for my cable modem) without any trouble.  The problems began with 
configuring X.  At my preferred setting of 1600x1200, 24-bit color, 75 
Hz, the display was very dark and the colors were incorrect.  After 
everything was configured and I started KDE, I was able to open a 
terminal window and run one command.  Then the mouse cursor disappeared, 
the hard drive light came on, and the system stopped responding to 
either the mouse or keyboard.  Eventually I gave up and did a reset.  I 
reconfigured the video to 1280x1024, which produced better colors, 
although there was a dard shadow approximately 1/2 inch wide down the 
left side of the monitor and other shadows.  After a few minutes, the 
hard drive light once again came on and the system stopped responding to 
input.  Over the next 16 hours or so, I did several resets, but it 
always locked up within minutes of starting KDE and never came back, 
including the one time that I gave it about 10 hours.

I tried a second install this evening, installing a much smaller 
selection of software packages, but I got the same results, and after a 
couple of reboots, I blew it away and reinstalled COL.

I was really hoping for a distribution with more up-to-date software 
than COL, and I especially wanted KDE 3 and GNOME so that I could try 
some other programs I've been wanting to experiment with, but SuSE 8 
still needs some work based on my experience to be a suitable 
replacement for COL.


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 Pam R spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
 
On Wednesday 24 April 2002 1:58 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote:

anyone? anyone?

 
 thoughts? opinions? observations? gotchas?
 
 care to review it for submission on the site? talk you into putting your 
 opinion of it on the new opinions site?
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Re: who has SuSE 8?

2002-04-24 Thread Net Llama!

During any of this, did you check your logs to see what was occuring? 
This sounds like some kind of hardware failure to me.

J. Allen Crider wrote:
 I received it yesterday, and I must say that I am very disappointed so 
 far.  After two unsuccessful installations, I have gone back to COL WS 
 3.1.1 for now.  I may give it another try if I can find any ideas on why 
 my first attempts failed, but not before the weekend now.
 
 My system has a 1GHz Athlon processor on a Tyan motherboard with 768MB 
 RAM, ATI Radeon AGP graphics card, 3 IDE hard drives and an IDE DVD 
 drive, BusLogic and Adaptec SCSI adapters, etc., and everything works 
 with COL.
 
 For my first attempt with SuSE 8, I selected a lot of the included 
 software packages, totalling approximately 6 GB.  Other than the fact 
 that it took several hours to select the software and install it, the 
 install seemed to go OK, and I was able to configure the printers and 
 DHCP (for my cable modem) without any trouble.  The problems began with 
 configuring X.  At my preferred setting of 1600x1200, 24-bit color, 75 
 Hz, the display was very dark and the colors were incorrect.  After 
 everything was configured and I started KDE, I was able to open a 
 terminal window and run one command.  Then the mouse cursor disappeared, 
 the hard drive light came on, and the system stopped responding to 
 either the mouse or keyboard.  Eventually I gave up and did a reset.  I 
 reconfigured the video to 1280x1024, which produced better colors, 
 although there was a dard shadow approximately 1/2 inch wide down the 
 left side of the monitor and other shadows.  After a few minutes, the 
 hard drive light once again came on and the system stopped responding to 
 input.  Over the next 16 hours or so, I did several resets, but it 
 always locked up within minutes of starting KDE and never came back, 
 including the one time that I gave it about 10 hours.
 
 I tried a second install this evening, installing a much smaller 
 selection of software packages, but I got the same results, and after a 
 couple of reboots, I blew it away and reinstalled COL.
 
 I was really hoping for a distribution with more up-to-date software 
 than COL, and I especially wanted KDE 3 and GNOME so that I could try 
 some other programs I've been wanting to experiment with, but SuSE 8 
 still needs some work based on my experience to be a suitable 
 replacement for COL.


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webcam stuff (Skippy especially)

2002-04-24 Thread Net Llama!

Keith,
I've just about caught up to you here.  I'm trying to build 
linuxvideostudio, and the compile is bombing out here:
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -O2 -funroll-loops -ffast-math 
-malign-double -mcpu=pentiumpro -march=pentiumpro -f
omit-frame-pointer -fno-exceptions -c -o libyuv4mpeg_a-y4m12.o `test -f 
y4m12.c || echo './'`y4m12.c
In file included from y4m12.c:8:
y4m12.h:5: yuv4mpeg.h: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [libyuv4mpeg_a-y4m12.o] Error 1

The odd thing is, the file that it can't find appears to only be a part 
of mjpegtools-1.6, and not 1.4 (even though both are supposed to work).

Keith Antoine wrote:
 On Sunday 21 April 2002 02:44, you wrote:
 
 Ahh, this is where I am at the moment, so maybe I can return the favour. 
 I have been using a pinnacle Rave pro and started with Streamer that 
 comes with Xawtv, rapidly gave this the flick as its VERY limitted and am 
 now using the mjpegtools lavrec to record, far more flexible. BTW the 
 linuxvideoStudio that I am in troublw with is gui for mjpegtools. Most of the 
 software defaults to an assumption that you have a mjpeg card, so I have to tell it :
 
 lavrec -f a -n 40 -i t -g 352x288 -q 80 -s  -l 80 -R l --software-encoding 
/backup/movies/test.avi
 
 Withe the tools one can also tell it to record from line in, iT tells it to look for 
tuner input.
 I got mine working for the first time properly last night with the above script. 
 No dropped frames and clean audio.
 
 So what software are you using for capture, there are many out there and 
 over the past 4 months I have used most of them., even mainactor will do
 a good capture. There is another bttv style prog for cards too called Taztv 
 which might do the camera too. I believe that most capture software will 
 work with cameras if they follow the bttv std.
 
 When I have finished and can capture from a gui and then edit and 
 play with the reults, put it down to a cdr and watch it on either computer or DVD 
player
 then I'll be doing a complete SxS, once again.
 
 
THe 2nd is that xawtv refuses to obey the resolution parameter that i'm
feeding it:
xawtv -geometry 352x288-0+0
and keeps defaulting back to 128x96 (which looks like crap).  My camera
is definitely capable of doing 640x480 @16fps, so its not a hardware
limitation.  I'm seeing this error from xawtv as it defaults to the
lesser resolution:
ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(0,fmt=7,size=128x96): Invalid argument

Even if i run it without the higher resolution , the same error appears.

And the final error is occuring whenver i try to take a snapshot with
the camera:
JPEG parameter struct mismatch: library thinks size is 372, caller
expects 376

My research seems to indicate that this is a bug in an older version of
libjpeg (like version 6a).  However, i've got libjpeg-6b-18 which is
basically the newest stable release, so i'm stumped.
 
 
 


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