Re: OpenOffice

2002-06-05 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 23:30:57 -0400
Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone have any intense experience with openoffice, in particular,
 the spreadsheet?  I used to use StarOffice 5.2 but gave it up in favor
 of vi and Excel (running under win4lin). (Obviously, I don't have to
 exchange text documents at work, just spreadsheets.)  I was never happy
 with the spreadsheet in SO. The spreadsheet in staroffice didn't have
 built in functions for data analysis, as far as I could find, and was
 awkward in other ways, not nearly as nice as Excel. And, I had to have
 painless compatibility with Excel.

I just got an excel spreadsheel that did all kind of funny lookups
via excel functions. I did not expect it to work in OO 1.0. Well, it did.
Perfectly. As I understand it, OO 1.0 has most all the excel functions, as well
as a BASIC scripting language. I don't know how/if the BASIC matches what
people would use in excel, but the functions are supposed to be compatible.

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Re: printing in OpenOffice.org 1.0 calc

2002-06-05 Thread Marianne Taylor

The problem is solved.  Despite the fact that OpenOffice.org writer worked 
fine, I needed to set up the printer.  Didn't really change anything, but 
used the default and that worked.

On June 4, 2002 07:05 am, you wrote:
 What printer driver are you using in OOo?  Mine show up and work correctly
 by default using CUPS/OOo1.0 but in the older SO releases, you set up the
 driver within SO.  Perhaps you had a special driver set up is SO and the
 printer isn't PostScript capable?


 On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 21:39:34 -0700

 Marianne Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have my new laser all set up, but have one problem.  OpenOffice.org
  calc prints out garbage when I print a spreadsheet.  Same spreadsheet
  works perfectly in SO 5.2, and documents print fine with OpenOffice.org
  writer.
 
  Does anyone have any ideas.
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Re: This hardware works...

2002-06-05 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Tuesday 04 June 2002 04:34 pm,Jerry McBride wrote:
 I just bought myself a SONY CYBERSHOT PSC-31 digital camera for work
 use. It sports a 2meg ccd,USB interface and uses SONY's proprietary
 memory stick for
 storage.

 Although there's no definitive blessing of this unit working with
 linux, it does indeed work quite well. All you do is load the usb
 drivers, sd_mod, read the output from dmesg and mount the discoverd
 scsi drive as a VFAT partition. Once mounted, I was able to browse
 the pictures with Konqueror.

 The PSC-31 was onsale as a special for $150.00. You can probably find
 similar deals in your locale.

 Cheers.

I think this is the general hassle-free approach to digital cameras.  
Forget the gphoto stuff;  mount the device instead.  In my case, I 
needed a smart card reader, but the end result on my Canon was the same 
as you describe on your Sony.

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Re: mail server suggestions?

2002-06-05 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:31:06 -0400 (EDT)
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm no mail admin, but from what others who are mail admins tell me, exim
 is miles easier to learn than Sendmail, and just as configurable.

I use exim. It is easier to configure, and it is command-libe compatible
with sendmail. So, it can be used as a sendmail replacement (from a
command-line invocation POV). It also has a GUI to monitor the mail queue
and allow you to deal with messages as is appropriate. I also user Majordomo
with it.

Keep in mind that if you will be running any anti-spam or -viri doodads,
then you may need to be running sendmail. Depends on the doodad. But most
seem to target sendmail.

If you plan on doing any imap stuff, then you need to be sure that the
mailer stores files in a way that the imap software can use. I have not yet
found an imap server that will server up exim's files. Of course, I have not
looked very hard (yet).

 
 On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Myles Green wrote:
 
  I find myself needing to set up a mail server for multiple (remote)
  users and was wondering what package(s) might be best. I was going to
  just use sendmail but if there's something better well, I'd like to
  hear some opinions.
 
  TIA,
 
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Re: KVM recommendations?

2002-06-05 Thread burns

On Monday 03 June 2002 17:06, Jerry McBride wrote:
 Would anyone recommend a KVM brand, modle or other?

 I've got a situation that's perfect for one, only need to support 2
 computers, but I would like to have
 the ability to support 4 for future expansion. At the moment, one box is
 running windows and the other
 is running Turbo linux.


I've had good luck with a 'cheap and cheerful' Cybex Switchview MP 4 port KVM 
switch. IT autosenses PCs and Unix boxes (i.e. SUN). :Price is around 
300(USD). There's a cheaper model for around $90, for PCs only. Cable kits 
are extra.

These are digital models and work very well.  There are analog switches 
(essential a rotary switch) out there on the market that are cheaper. 
However, they  are a pain in the butt and don't really work all that well.
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Re: Redmondlinux - rlizard

2002-06-05 Thread Keith Antoine

On Wednesday 05 June 2002 03:51 pm, Abd Shukur Bin Sharif enshrined in prose:
 I think so...
 This file should be at /  or /etc/ or /mnt/floppy/ or /tmp/  or ./ but it
 not found.

Did you download this off the net ? If so then you will have to redownload it 
and check md5sum.

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Re: compiling qt3 - what is the difference between logging in as root as sued in? kieth

2002-06-05 Thread James McDonald

On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 7:37, you wrote:
snip
 Ok I will save that to a .sh script. However one thing you left out is that
 I have to remember to be in root and not sued in grin.
/snip

Is this because your on caldera? Because I did mine while sued in and now I 
am worried that I have messed up...

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how i spent last weekend

2002-06-05 Thread dep

for those to whom wild animals are interesting, this, which has 
nothing to do with computers:

http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=89
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Re: RH 7.3 install

2002-06-05 Thread Net Llama!

E...i don't think so.  At least that's not how i do it with my digital
camera.  Then again, i use photopc, which has a switch to set the serial
device  port speed.

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
 So I should make a file /etc/rc.d/rc.serial with the line,
 /bin/setserial /dev/ttyS1 spd_vhi

 On Tuesday 04 June 2002 04:57 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
  On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
   side note.
   I have a Kodak DC5000 digital camera. After trial and error I found that
   Gphoto supports it as the Kodak 240 through the serial cable. Works great
   but a bit slow compared to the Kodak software on my NT box. I have not
   gotten my
 
  Are you using serial in NT, or USB/IEEE1324?  If its serial in NT, make
  sure that you're setting the speed to 115200 in linux.
 
   Sony vid-cam TRV525 working yet. Guess I'll need to get a 1394 card. Cant
   get anything through the serial connect. I also  have a connectix quick
   clip
 
  The serial port doesn't have enough bandwidth for the vidcam.
 
   parallel that I just cant get working under linux?!?
 
  sorry, no clue about that.


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Re: I've just gotta know why

2002-06-05 Thread Net Llama!

On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Tom Condon wrote:

 I got my scanner to work.  It required some patience, but not much else.
 The SuSE 8.0 software did most of the work.  But I don't understand a
 couple of things.

 First, on boot up the BIOS recognized the two SCSI hard drives, the SCSI
 CD-RW and the SCSI Zip drive just fine (sca, scb, scc  scd), but it
 found 16 scanners (sg0-sg15), each with the right SCSI ID (1), but with
 LUNs 0-15.  That didn't happen on my old system (Gateway P5 120MHz with
 the same SCSI controller card in it).  But with my newer system (Abit
 VL6 MB, Celleron 600 MHz) it found all those scanners.

 Second, why did the SuSE software find 64 scanners?  When I type dmesg
 that is the number of them I find in the log.  Each with a unique
 identifier assigned.

 As long as I let all of this finding happen without cutting it short it
 was easy to select the first scanner in the list and install it.

 But I'd like to know *why*!

Normally, when you see the same device multiple times, its a termination
problem (which could be as simple as reseating the cable, or as bad as
faulty HW), or you have two devices using the same ID.

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Newbie like question on KDE upgrade

2002-06-05 Thread Harry G

I have just installed Suse version 8.0, with KDE 3.0, but I see some bugs in 
some of the packages in KDE.  I want to upgrade KDE to the newer version, 
since I am sure that some of the bugs are fixed in it.

1.  What is the easiest way to download all the files  at once, instead of each 
one seperately?  (Also, I am on a dialup connection).

2.  What order do they have to be installed?


TIA

Harry

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Re: Newbie like question on KDE upgrade

2002-06-05 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Wednesday 05 June 2002 10:03 am, Harry G wrote:
 I have just installed Suse version 8.0, with KDE 3.0, but I see some bugs
 in some of the packages in KDE.  I want to upgrade KDE to the newer
 version, since I am sure that some of the bugs are fixed in it.

 1.What is the easiest way to download all the files  at once, instead of
 each one seperately?  (Also, I am on a dialup connection).


Use ncftp with its  'wildcard character' pickup of files.   Such as   'get  
*.rpm'


 2.What order do they have to be installed?


Get Pam's  SxS on installing KDE.   It's a little old but I'm sure it still 
applies.   You can do it all with one command.




 TIA

 Harry

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Re: OpenOffice

2002-06-05 Thread Paul Moore

I moved to OO when 1.0 was released, and it is all I use now.  I used Excel to 
do Monthly Usage reports that pulled from other files, and to my surprise, it 
all worked.  The only downside is that you have to learn where the features are 
buried.  While this is a minor thing, it is still an issue if you plan on 
converting an entire site to it  As we all know, end users hate change!  To 
sum it all up, anyone and everyone I know that uses it, LOVES it.



Quoting Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 23:30:57 -0400
 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Does anyone have any intense experience with openoffice, in particular,
  the spreadsheet?  I used to use StarOffice 5.2 but gave it up in favor
  of vi and Excel (running under win4lin). (Obviously, I don't have to
  exchange text documents at work, just spreadsheets.)  I was never happy
  with the spreadsheet in SO. The spreadsheet in staroffice didn't have
  built in functions for data analysis, as far as I could find, and was
  awkward in other ways, not nearly as nice as Excel. And, I had to have
  painless compatibility with Excel.
 
 I just got an excel spreadsheel that did all kind of funny lookups
 via excel functions. I did not expect it to work in OO 1.0. Well, it did.
 Perfectly. As I understand it, OO 1.0 has most all the excel functions, as
 well
 as a BASIC scripting language. I don't know how/if the BASIC matches what
 people would use in excel, but the functions are supposed to be compatible.
 
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OT Test

2002-06-05 Thread Tom Wilson

Well, you have to remember that the year was 19 ought 6 and I was wearing
and onion on my belt.  It was the style at the time...



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Re: Newbie like question on KDE upgrade

2002-06-05 Thread Harry G

I have ncftp, but I can't find any documentation on how to use it.  Any ideas 
where?

Harry G

On Wednesday 05 June 2002 10:17 am, Bruce Marshall wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 June 2002 10:03 am, Harry G wrote:
  I have just installed Suse version 8.0, with KDE 3.0, but I see some bugs
  in some of the packages in KDE.  I want to upgrade KDE to the newer
  version, since I am sure that some of the bugs are fixed in it.
 
  1.  What is the easiest way to download all the files  at once, instead of
  each one seperately?  (Also, I am on a dialup connection).

 Use ncftp with its  'wildcard character' pickup of files.   Such as   'get
 *.rpm'

  2.  What order do they have to be installed?

 Get Pam's  SxS on installing KDE.   It's a little old but I'm sure it still
 applies.   You can do it all with one command.

  TIA
 
  Harry
 
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Re: Newbie like question on KDE upgrade

2002-06-05 Thread Net Llama!

man ncftp  ??

On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Harry G wrote:

 I have ncftp, but I can't find any documentation on how to use it.  Any ideas
 where?

 Harry G

 On Wednesday 05 June 2002 10:17 am, Bruce Marshall wrote:
  On Wednesday 05 June 2002 10:03 am, Harry G wrote:
   I have just installed Suse version 8.0, with KDE 3.0, but I see some bugs
   in some of the packages in KDE.  I want to upgrade KDE to the newer
   version, since I am sure that some of the bugs are fixed in it.
  
   1.What is the easiest way to download all the files  at once, instead of
   each one seperately?  (Also, I am on a dialup connection).
 
  Use ncftp with its  'wildcard character' pickup of files.   Such as   'get
  *.rpm'
 
   2.What order do they have to be installed?
 
  Get Pam's  SxS on installing KDE.   It's a little old but I'm sure it still
  applies.   You can do it all with one command.
 
   TIA
  
   Harry
  
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Re: Newbie like question on KDE upgrade

2002-06-05 Thread Harry G

For some reason, it isn't on my system, but I did realize they have a 
homepage, which gives how to info.

Thank you though!

:-)

Harry G


On Wednesday 05 June 2002 11:14 am, Net Llama! wrote:
 man ncftp  ??

 On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Harry G wrote:
  I have ncftp, but I can't find any documentation on how to use it.  Any
  ideas where?
 
  Harry G
 
  On Wednesday 05 June 2002 10:17 am, Bruce Marshall wrote:
   On Wednesday 05 June 2002 10:03 am, Harry G wrote:
I have just installed Suse version 8.0, with KDE 3.0, but I see some
bugs in some of the packages in KDE.  I want to upgrade KDE to the
newer version, since I am sure that some of the bugs are fixed in it.
   
1.  What is the easiest way to download all the files  at once,
instead of each one seperately?  (Also, I am on a dialup connection).
  
   Use ncftp with its  'wildcard character' pickup of files.   Such as  
   'get *.rpm'
  
2.  What order do they have to be installed?
  
   Get Pam's  SxS on installing KDE.   It's a little old but I'm sure it
   still applies.   You can do it all with one command.
  
TIA
   
Harry
   
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Re: gphoto install

2002-06-05 Thread Lee

Lee wrote:
 
 Downloaded gphoto2-2.0.tar.gz from the site. untarred with tar zxvf
 /home/user/gphoto2-2.0.tar.gz . Then cd /home/user/gphoto2-2.0 then
 found the install as /INSTALL . tied to install with ./INSTALL. Got a
 Permission denied error message. Tried to install as su got same error.
 Logged out logged out and back in as root.  Pulled up terminal window
 changed directory to /photo2-2.0 and tried to install again with
 ./INSTALL. Got Permission Denied message. What am I doing wrong and how
 do I get the thing to install?
 
 Lee
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Re: Newbie like question on KDE upgrade

2002-06-05 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Wednesday 05 June 2002 11:27 am, Harry G wrote:
 For some reason, it isn't on my system, but I did realize they have a
 homepage, which gives how to info.

 Thank you though!

My SuSE 8.0  system  has a man file for ncftp


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Re: Newbie like question on KDE upgrade

2002-06-05 Thread Net Llama!

On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Bruce Marshall wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 June 2002 11:27 am, Harry G wrote:
  For some reason, it isn't on my system, but I did realize they have a
  homepage, which gives how to info.
 
  Thank you though!

 My SuSE 8.0  system  has a man file for ncftp

My Caldera  Redhat systems have it too.  Also a Debian box where I have a
shell account has it.

Soundws like someone didn't install (all of) the man pages.

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Re: Newbie like question on KDE upgrade

2002-06-05 Thread Bob Raymond

Harry G wrote:

I have just installed Suse version 8.0, with KDE 3.0, but I see some bugs in 
some of the packages in KDE.  I want to upgrade KDE to the newer version, 
since I am sure that some of the bugs are fixed in it.

1. What is the easiest way to download all the files  at once, instead of each 
one seperately?  (Also, I am on a dialup connection).

2. What order do they have to be installed?

  

What about Yast Online Update?  SuSE has had KDE 3.0.1 available through 
YOU for several weeks now, at least.
It takes me about five and a half hours to download KDE here on my 28.8k 
line.

The updater will also install everything in the right order.

Bob Raymond

TIA

Harry

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Updated Step

2002-06-05 Thread Nobody

Oskar Andreasson has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/iptables to incorporate the 
following:
Updated for v1.1.11
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Re: Question PCMCIA

2002-06-05 Thread Richard R. Sivernell

On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 10:52:28 -0400 (EDT)
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Make sure that the appropriate module(s) for the PCMCIA NIC that you're
 using is loaded.  See http://pcmcia-cs.sf.net for the correct module(s).
 Once you do that, you should be able to bring up the interface.
 
 On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Richard R. Sivernell wrote:
  List
 
  Damn, I just installed peanut linux on a older laptop, kde2.1 is
  up and running, along with sound. The last step is make the network
  talk. Used the setup program from peanut and then set hosts 
  some other files with the proper address required. I can ping localhost
  ok, but no others, not surprising that it does not talk to the pcmcia card.
  I have several cards to use. 1) link sys 2) dlink 3) xircom creditcard.
  but no network connect. This is my 1st time with pcmcia. What else do
  I need to setup.
  I have modified thefollowing files to add static address  domain
  1. hosts setup
  2. /etc/pcmcia/config
  3. /etc/rc./rc.inet1
  4. /etc/pcmcia/network.opts
 
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Re: OpenOffice

2002-06-05 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage

Am Mittwoch, 5. Juni 2002 05:30 schrieb Joel Hammer:

 The spreadsheet in staroffice didn't have
 built in functions for data analysis, as far as I could find, and was
 awkward in other ways, not nearly as nice as Excel. And, I had to have
 painless compatibility with Excel.

When you think of sophisticated statistical functions like regression, 
analysis of variance, t-test ... I didn't find them in OO as well. Perhaps 
they will be included as add-ins later, but I didn't see any clue at the 
openoffice.org site.
As far as I remember, even in Excel (which BTW is one of the rare excellent 
programs coming from M$) these goodies aren't built in, but add-ins as well.

Apart from these statistical functions, I have imported quite weird Excel 
sheets to OO without problems.
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Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread Tim Wunder

Appears to be released,
http://www.mozilla.org

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Re: at login I get

2002-06-05 Thread Brett I. Holcomb

I'm not sure what you mean by critical.  I have had to do this with KDE2.  
I don't have KDE3 (nor do I plan to G).

Keith Antoine wrote:

 On Wednesday 05 June 2002 09:13 am, Brett I. Holcomb enshrined in prose:
 Probably is KDE.  That's another of it's features.  Try the standard
 fix:.  In windows the standard fix for anything is to reboot.  In KDE
 it's:

 1.  rename ~./kde2 (or whatever it's called - kde, kde2, etc.)
 2.  clean out /tmp
 3.  Remove the DCOP files in your home directory - the ones that have
 your host name in them.
 4.  Restart KDE.  It will create a new ~./kde2 and hopefully things will
 work.  Then you can copy the share/apps and share/config files from your
 saved directory.

 If that doesn't work (and I had one time it did not) I had to create a
 new user and copy over various files dealing with dcop, and the
 networking.
 
 Umm, it seems not to be critical, am unsure here. Is it critical because
 there is no way to tell at the moment.
 

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Re: RH 7.3 install

2002-06-05 Thread Ronnie Gauthier

I'll have to do some digging, or try photopc. There is no way to set the 
serial port speed from within gphoto, least not that I can find.

On Wednesday 05 June 2002 08:55 am, Net Llama! wrote:
 E...i don't think so.  At least that's not how i do it with my digital
 camera.  Then again, i use photopc, which has a switch to set the serial
 device  port speed.

 On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
  So I should make a file /etc/rc.d/rc.serial with the line,
  /bin/setserial /dev/ttyS1 spd_vhi
 
  On Tuesday 04 June 2002 04:57 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
   On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
side note.


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Re: Question PCMCIA

2002-06-05 Thread Richard R. Sivernell


  Well I have a pcmcia driver working somewhat, I can ping the hostname
but no remote machines. Peanut is using I beleive BSD/Slackware layout.
any body got any suggestions are control files i can look at. Went to URL for
pcmcia and I am a little overwelmed or just not understanding, it seems to be
very
general not what to what file.

DEP, great story and phots, a real nice break reading about it. My inlaws have
deer 
in their back yard from time to time in Indiana.

any help appreciated.
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Re: I've just gotta know why

2002-06-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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 I got my scanner to work.  It required some patience, but not much else.
 The SuSE 8.0 software did most of the work.  But I don't understand a
 couple of things.

 First, on boot up the BIOS recognized the two SCSI hard drives, the SCSI
 CD-RW and the SCSI Zip drive just fine (sca, scb, scc  scd), but it
 found 16 scanners (sg0-sg15), each with the right SCSI ID (1), but with
 LUNs 0-15.  That didn't happen on my old system (Gateway P5 120MHz with
 the same SCSI controller card in it).  But with my newer system (Abit
 VL6 MB, Celleron 600 MHz) it found all those scanners.

 Second, why did the SuSE software find 64 scanners?  When I type dmesg
 that is the number of them I find in the log.  Each with a unique
 identifier assigned.

 As long as I let all of this finding happen without cutting it short it
 was easy to select the first scanner in the list and install it.

 But I'd like to know *why*!

you have 'probe all LUNs' set to 'Y' in your kernel config? if so, turn it 
off. this will go away
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Re: Gentoo

2002-06-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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 On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:21:04 -0700 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It seems that I have the basic Gentoo installed (luv that ADSL) next
  step is to get the X stuff along with XFCE and continue on with the
  show.

 Congrats.  Sounds like you are on a roll.

I've had gentoo up and running for almost 2 months.. I noticed that lately 
doing a :
emerge --update world

barfs. I get this error:
!!! Error: couldn't find match for virtual/glu in x11-libs/qt-3.0.4.1-r1

ideas?
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Re: This hardware works...

2002-06-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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Jerry McBride spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
 I just bought myself a SONY CYBERSHOT PSC-31 digital camera for work use.
 It sports a 2meg ccd,USB interface and uses SONY's proprietary memory
 stick for
 storage.

 Although there's no definitive blessing of this unit working with linux,
 it does indeed work quite well. All you do is load the usb drivers,
 sd_mod, read the output from dmesg and mount the discoverd scsi drive as
 a VFAT partition. Once mounted, I was able to browse the pictures with
 Konqueror.

 The PSC-31 was onsale as a special for $150.00. You can probably find
 similar deals in your locale.

 Cheers.

so, upload a pic somewhere so we can see how good they are. I might buy one if 
the pics are nice
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Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread Ken Moffat

Now we have to wait for a new galeon.


On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 15:03:49 -0400
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 Appears to be released,
 http://www.mozilla.org
 
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Re: This hardware works...

2002-06-05 Thread Net Llama!

Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 Jerry McBride spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
 
I just bought myself a SONY CYBERSHOT PSC-31 digital camera for work use.
It sports a 2meg ccd,USB interface and uses SONY's proprietary memory
stick for
storage.

Although there's no definitive blessing of this unit working with linux,
it does indeed work quite well. All you do is load the usb drivers,
sd_mod, read the output from dmesg and mount the discoverd scsi drive as
a VFAT partition. Once mounted, I was able to browse the pictures with
Konqueror.

The PSC-31 was onsale as a special for $150.00. You can probably find
similar deals in your locale.

Cheers.
 
 
 so, upload a pic somewhere so we can see how good they are. I might buy one if 
 the pics are nice

Ya, how many megapixels?  My Olymus has a measely 1.3, but i think it 
takes really good pix (my son isn't complaining)

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Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread m.w.chang

I prefer release 1.1 before I switch all over... too risky given the 
fact that I knew some of the bugs in her pre-releasses.

Tim Wunder wrote:
 Appears to be released,
 http://www.mozilla.org
 


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adsl-modem installation

2002-06-05 Thread m.w.chang


If I want to know the detail on how rp-pppoe find the adsl-modem over 
the ethernet, what articles should I read? It's less a linux isusses, 
but more on the networking basics. I am stil puzzled by these 2 setups:

option 1: (adsl-modem)--(nic)--(PC)
option 2: (adsl-modem)--(hub)--(nic)--(PC)

I am using option 1 but option 2 is possible and without problems.

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Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread Net Llama!

I've been using Mozilla for about 18 months.  I have no clue about what 
you're afraid of.  Its, by far, the most stable, full featured browser 
out there, bar none.,

m.w.chang wrote:
 I prefer release 1.1 before I switch all over... too risky given the 
 fact that I knew some of the bugs in her pre-releasses.
 
 Tim Wunder wrote:
 
 Appears to be released,
 http://www.mozilla.org

 
 


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Re: This hardware works...

2002-06-05 Thread Ken Moffat

On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 18:47:44 -0700
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Ya, how many megapixels?  My Olymus has a measely 1.3, but i think it 
 takes really good pix (my son isn't complaining)
 

My brother has an Olympus 1.3 mp also, and it takes fine pics.
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OTOpen source aides terrorists

2002-06-05 Thread Tom Wilson

This is a good one.

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-929669.html
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Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread m.w.chang

I haven't used the linux version of mozilla yet. So it may be different 
from the experiecnes I had with the Window$ release. Messenger 4.79 is 
basically rock stable... so I am worrying about message base 
corruption (didn't happen to me so far) and possibly mail filters 
failure (there were bug reports).

Just wanna be cautious... Did you notice any scroll-bar related errors 
in the U.I.? I did... and I worried that those unfixed U.I. bugs could 
crash the mozilla suddenly, causing data errors on my many-years-old 
messsage-base... :)

Net Llama! wrote:
 I've been using Mozilla for about 18 months.  I have no clue about what 
 you're afraid of.  Its, by far, the most stable, full featured browser 
 out there, bar none.,

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[OT] linux journal

2002-06-05 Thread m.w.chang


Page 21 missed of Mr. Bandel's article on netfilters. is it pure 
coincidence? The articles did cover string matches though someone told 
me that it might not back a month ago ... :)

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Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread Net Llama!

m.w.chang wrote:
 I haven't used the linux version of mozilla yet. So it may be different 
 from the experiecnes I had with the Window$ release. Messenger 4.79 is 
 basically rock stable... so I am worrying about message base 
 corruption (didn't happen to me so far) and possibly mail filters 
 failure (there were bug reports).

i use pine for most of my email, so i really don't know about the filters.

 
 Just wanna be cautious... Did you notice any scroll-bar related errors 
 in the U.I.? I did... and I worried that those unfixed U.I. bugs could 
 crash the mozilla suddenly, causing data errors on my many-years-old 
 messsage-base... :)

what kind of errors??  i've honestly never seen any errors in mozilla.


 
 Net Llama! wrote:
 
 I've been using Mozilla for about 18 months.  I have no clue about 
 what you're afraid of.  Its, by far, the most stable, full featured 
 browser out there, bar none.,
 
 


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Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread Andrew Mathews

Net Llama! wrote:
 I've been using Mozilla for about 18 months.  I have no clue about what 
 you're afraid of.  Its, by far, the most stable, full featured browser 
 out there, bar none.,
snip

As an aside, I've been trying Netscape 7.0 for the last week. It seems 
to work quite well, no crashes, it's fairly fast, and it actually closes 
when I tell it to. It also has some nice features such as creating a 
mailrule from a message, multiple From: addressing for imap, etc. My 
only complaint with Moz was that I had to kill it from a command prompt 
or Ctrl-Alt-Esc. It would never close gracefully on it's own. Otherwise, 
it was fine.
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Re: Gentoo

2002-06-05 Thread Collins

On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 20:13:11 -0400 Douglas J Hunley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Collins spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
  On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:21:04 -0700 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   It seems that I have the basic Gentoo installed (luv that ADSL)
   next step is to get the X stuff along with XFCE and continue on
   with the show.
 
  Congrats.  Sounds like you are on a roll.
 
 I've had gentoo up and running for almost 2 months.. I noticed that
 lately doing a :
 emerge --update world
 
 barfs. I get this error:
 !!! Error: couldn't find match for virtual/glu in
 x11-libs/qt-3.0.4.1-r1
 

I've seen this error before, but I can't remember the answer.  Your
best bet is to go to http://fireserver.ath.cx/gentoo/search/ and
search the user archives for that message.  Sometimes errors like this
mean that you should upgrade your version of portage before doing
aything else.

BTW, I'm your basic chicken.  I never do emerge -u world' (same as
'emerge --update world').  I always do 'emerge -pu world somefile,
then research and issue emerge commands for each recommended package. 
Most of the time 'emerge -u world' works ok, but it can bite you in
the rear.  Also you don't get any time forecast, so if world has
selected a glibc update and a full gnome update and a full kde update,
you may be in for a long wait.

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Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread Net Llama!

Andrew Mathews wrote:
 Net Llama! wrote:
 
 I've been using Mozilla for about 18 months.  I have no clue about 
 what you're afraid of.  Its, by far, the most stable, full featured 
 browser out there, bar none.,
 
 snip
 
 As an aside, I've been trying Netscape 7.0 for the last week. It seems 
 to work quite well, no crashes, it's fairly fast, and it actually closes 
 when I tell it to. It also has some nice features such as creating a 
 mailrule from a message, multiple From: addressing for imap, etc. My 
 only complaint with Moz was that I had to kill it from a command prompt 
 or Ctrl-Alt-Esc. It would never close gracefully on it's own. Otherwise, 
 it was fine.

yea i've experienced that too at times.  it seems to be somewthing 
related to IMAP  low bandwidth connections.

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Re: SxS Distro?

2002-06-05 Thread Kurt Wall

On Sun, 2 Jun 2002 17:58:03 -0400 Douglas J Hunley
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  I'd have to pass. Work and a book project suck up my time and I'm
  not terribly interested in working with another RPM-based
  distribution.
 
 nobody sad we'd use RPM

No, but it seemed that was the direction the conversation was
going.

Kurt
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Re: Gentoo

2002-06-05 Thread Collins

On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 20:56:51 -0600 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 20:13:11 -0400 Douglas J Hunley
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  Collins spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
   On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:21:04 -0700 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
It seems that I have the basic Gentoo installed (luv that
ADSL) next step is to get the X stuff along with XFCE and
continue on with the show.
  
   Congrats.  Sounds like you are on a roll.
  
  I've had gentoo up and running for almost 2 months.. I noticed
  that lately doing a :
  emerge --update world
  
  barfs. I get this error:
  !!! Error: couldn't find match for virtual/glu in
  x11-libs/qt-3.0.4.1-r1
  
 
 I've seen this error before, but I can't remember the answer.  Your
 best bet is to go to http://fireserver.ath.cx/gentoo/search/ and
 search the user archives for that message.  Sometimes errors like
 this mean that you should upgrade your version of portage before
 doing aything else.
 
 BTW, I'm your basic chicken.  I never do emerge -u world' (same as
 'emerge --update world').  I always do 'emerge -pu world somefile,
 then research and issue emerge commands for each recommended
 package. Most of the time 'emerge -u world' works ok, but it can
 bite you in the rear.  Also you don't get any time forecast, so if
 world has selected a glibc update and a full gnome update and a full
 kde update, you may be in for a long wait.
 

Some extra thoughts.  One of the reasons I never let emerge update
things automatically is that the package choice is not 100% perfect. 
Sometimes it will pick packages that are at a lower level or even
duplicates.  The whole emerge/portage process is still very much under
construction.  From time to time it is unstable, but any problems are
usually fixed within hours or days.

If you don't do updates very often, it's a good idea (as I've
mentioned above) to emerge the latest portage before doing anything
else.  Also, anything that produces updates to /etc and a few other
config type directories will create temporary files that need to be
replaced manually.  The etc-update program in the gentoolkit package
provides an automated way of doing this.  This is especially critical
if you have updated the baselayout package which updates the boot
scripts.  This is another reason for not doing the updates
automatically.  You might not see the message warning you that
temporary updates exist, although it does repeat after every
successful emerge.

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GRUB

2002-06-05 Thread Abd Shukur Bin Sharif


Hi...Grub expert.
I used redmonlinux.

When system start(boot) , the word GRUB continuously displayed.
Help me please...

Thanks.




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Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread m.w.chang

search http://www.bugzilla.org and you may find out more. the network 
timeout is also one problem I hit once a while with mozilla messenger 
when reading news/mail.

Net Llama! wrote:
 yea i've experienced that too at times.  it seems to be somewthing 
 related to IMAP  low bandwidth connections.
 


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Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread m.w.chang

note the word Messenger, not the browser.. :) I am using IE6 most of 
the time.

 Just wanna be cautious... Did you notice any scroll-bar related errors 
 in the U.I.? I did... and I worried that those unfixed U.I. bugs could 
 crash the mozilla suddenly, causing data errors on my many-years-old 
 messsage-base... :)
 what kind of errors??  i've honestly never seen any errors in mozilla.

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Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread Tim Wunder

On Thursday 06 June 2002 01:29 am, m.w.chang wrote:
 note the word Messenger, not the browser.. :) I am using IE6 most of
 the time.


Um, IE6 isn't a mail client. What I hear you saying is that you don't use 
Mozilla becasuse of the mail client. What mail client comes with IE6? Outlook 
Express? I will take Mozilla's mail client ANY day over Outlook Express. And 
Mozilla, the browser, is easily the best browser on Windows,and probably 
linux (although I haven't tried Galeon yet) for it's tab-browsing alone. 
There is *nothing* that IE6 offers that I'd consider better than Mozilla. 
Sorry.

Tim


  Just wanna be cautious... Did you notice any scroll-bar related errors
  in the U.I.? I did... and I worried that those unfixed U.I. bugs could
  crash the mozilla suddenly, causing data errors on my many-years-old
  messsage-base... :)
 
  what kind of errors??  i've honestly never seen any errors in mozilla.

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