cut
cat kernel.01 | cut -f 19-20 -d\ SPT=2701 DPT=27374 SPT=2701 DPT=27374 SPT=2701 DPT=27374 SPT=2701 DPT=27374 SPT=4169 DPT=1433 SPT=4169 DPT=1433 DPT=139 WINDOW=5360 DPT=139 WINDOW=5360 DPT=139 WINDOW=5360 this doesn't quite work because the number of fields varied on each iptables log entry. field 19 may not always be the DPT=xxx column. How to create a column containing only the DPT= column? Once that's done, I could apply `uniq -c` on it. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cut
I understood that the alternative is to modify the log-and-drop entry in ipatbles script, but still, was wondering abotu the possibklity of processing a free-form text file... this doesn't quite work because the number of fields varied on each iptables log entry. field 19 may not always be the DPT=xxx column. How to create a column containing only the DPT= column? Once that's done, I could apply `uniq -c` on it. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Intel LaGrande
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:46:04 -0700 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 20 September 2002 10:44 am,Pam R wrote: snip Palladium is an opt-in system. Palladium is entirely an opt-in solution; systems will ship with the Palladium hardware and software features turned off. The user of the system can choose to simply stay with this default setting, leaving all Palladium-related capabilities (hardware and software) disabled. For now. Forgive me, but I'm paranoid. It seems like it's not much of a step to make this permanent. It changes what can be believed from your computer. So if your Linux box cannot generate the info needed, your interactions with the outside world will be limited. As MS say, you can run whatever software you want on your machine. But try talking to another machine... -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Intel LaGrande
I would like to know who is going to run the certification program. All these trusted apps will have to get certs. When every program needs one it it is going to interact on a network, the whole cert thing must surely be fully layed out. On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 15:08:47 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Pam R wrote: Turning Palladium completely off includes turning it off in hardware, which prevents any software from turning it back on. Users have the ultimate control over their systems and their information; Palladium does not entail any global requirements. You can turn this off, but then you can only talk over the net to apps that will listen to such machines. All those Linux servers out there will probably oblige. We are really talking about the MS network services that will not listen to your box. So, in England, for example, where the government has set up all public information in an MS solution, all citizens wishing to access government info will have to run Palladium complieant software. Or be shut out. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Intel LaGrande
Palladium is an opt-in system. Yeah And Bill Gates swore to Congress he *never* violated any antitrust acts or competed unfairly in shape or form PGP Never had a back door.. V-chip security codes escrowed by the FBI would only be used by the FBI upon procurement of a valid a warrant.. Clinton never inhaled.. Nixon was never a crook... And on and on. I've been looking at PPC's for about a year... The palladium thing coupled with AMD's announcement regarding Palladium has ensured I will own a yellow dog. Best Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT i'm bored, anyone for irc?
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 07:25, m.w.chang wrote: but what about the rpm db? you skipped rpm I didn't write what you quoted, and I don't use RPM. If I didn't do a nice clean emerge unmerge, I would head into /var/db/pkg and start removing information about the packages I removed. Isn't there something similar with RPM? Bob Raymond Bob Raymond wrote: rm -r /etc/X11 rm -r /usr/X11R6 rm /etc/XF86Config* ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT i'm bored, anyone for irc?
thanks for the tip. I am still relying on the rpm commands that I was TOLD to use. I am just no rpm expert but would like to maintain rpm's db referential integrity. :) nice clean emerge unmerge, I would head into /var/db/pkg and start removing information about the packages I removed. Isn't there something similar with RPM? -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the civil war
Dennis Last year my wife and I stopped and visited the Civil war memorial under the monument in Indy. Very interesting. My wife was born raised in Logansport. In fact we were there last month. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
More glibc/gcc/binutils fun :-(
In an ongoing effort to see how badly I can hose my system and *still* have things (mostly) work, I attempted an update of binutils last night (from 2.10 that came with Caldera, to 2.13 from source). Much to my surprise, it seemed to compile and install without error. But, after issuing an ldconfig command, I get a cool new error (and linux is /fun/ again). When entering some command line commands (like 'ls' and 'make', but *not* 'rpm' or 'cat'), I get the following error: $ ls ls: relocation error: /lib/librt.so.1: symbol __pthread_clock_settime, version GLIBC_2.2.3 not defined in file libpthread.so.0 with link time reference It's interesting that all the GUI apps seemt to be working, I can view files using Konqueror, Mozilla works, Kmail and Knode work. So my system is still *kinda* working... Anybody have any suggestions on what I can try to fix *this*? Installing the old binutils didn't fixed it. Just looking for ideas to try. My ultimate answer to these problems I'm having is to install RedHat 7.3 in a spare partition, which I may get to this afternoon or tonight, but I'm interested in trying stuff to see if this can be fixed. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cut
You could try the 'sed' command: cat kernel.01 | sed -e #34;s/.*DPT=/DPT=/#34; -e #34;s/ .*//#34; That would replace everything up to the first #34;DPT=#34; with nothing and everything from the first space character to the end of the line with nothing. HTH, Brad. --- #34;m.w.chang#34; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: gt; cat kernel.01 | cut -f 19-20 -d\r gt; gt; SPT=2701 DPT=27374 gt; SPT=2701 DPT=27374 gt; SPT=2701 DPT=27374 gt; SPT=2701 DPT=27374 gt; SPT=4169 DPT=1433 gt; SPT=4169 DPT=1433 gt; DPT=139 WINDOW=5360 gt; DPT=139 WINDOW=5360 gt; DPT=139 WINDOW=5360 gt; gt; this doesn't quite work because the number of fields gt; varied on each gt; iptables log entry. field 19 may not always be the gt; DPT=xxx column. gt; gt; How to create a column containing only the gt; #34;DPT=#34; column? gt; Once that's done, I could apply `uniq -c` on it. gt; gt; gt; gt; -- gt; Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we gt; trust. gt; / v \r gt; news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ ) gt; http://www.linux-sxs.org __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the civil war
My recollection of US History is that it was General Sherman, not Sheridan, that burnt Atlanta (and everything east of it) down. On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, mpdickens wrote: dep wrote: i knew that he had been terribly wounded at chickamauga, My great great grandfather survived both the Battle of the Wilderness and Gettysburg (My great great uncle survived Wilderness to die at Gettysburg). However, he died from wounds he recieved at Chicamauga three days after the battle... He was from Georgia and knew if Chicamauga fell, Atlanta and therefore Georgia would fall...(Atlanta was totally burned to the ground within a month of Chicamauga. Not a single building was left standing). Milledgeville burned within a month of Atlanta and Savannah burned within a month of Milledgeville. Sheridan lost a military aid at the Battle of Chicamauga who he considered his adopted son... He swore he would burn Georgia to the ground and he did. As Sheridan marched to the sea, he literally burned *everything* in his path and left nothing In Milledgeville, he turned the Episcopal church and the Catholic church in horse stables. He ordered his men to pour molasses down the pipes of the organs located in both churches. Upon leaving Milledgeville, Sheridan ordered both churches burned to the ground and any civilians shot who tried to stop it. Problem was, Washington was so far away and communications so bad, there was nobody to stop him. It was totally unnecessary and was, in fact, an act of vengence. Best Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the civil war
mpdickens wrote: dep wrote: i knew that he had been terribly wounded at chickamauga, My great great grandfather survived both the Battle of the Wilderness and Gettysburg (My great great uncle survived Wilderness to die at Gettysburg). However, he died from wounds he recieved at Chicamauga three days after the battle... He was from Georgia and knew if Chicamauga fell, Atlanta and therefore Georgia would fall...(Atlanta was totally burned to the ground within a month of Chicamauga. Not a single building was left standing). Milledgeville burned within a month of Atlanta and Savannah burned within a month of Milledgeville. Sheridan lost a military aid at the Battle of Chicamauga who he considered his adopted son... He swore he would burn Georgia to the ground and he did. As Sheridan marched to the sea, he literally burned *everything* in his path and left nothing In Milledgeville, he turned the Episcopal church and the Catholic church in horse stables. He ordered his men to pour molasses down the pipes of the organs located in both churches. Upon leaving Milledgeville, Sheridan ordered both churches burned to the ground and any civilians shot who tried to stop it. Problem was, Washington was so far away and communications so bad, there was nobody to stop him. It was totally unnecessary and was, in fact, an act of vengence. Best Peck Believe you mean Sherman. Sheridan burned out parts of Virginia and layer played a major role in exterminating the western Indians. Lee ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the civil war
An additional note on Sherman. He is attributed to the quote, War is hell, which he seemed to understand better than anyone else during the war. There are many scholarly essays which assert that Sherman was the first military leader in modern history who truly understand that in order to win a war, you must defeat not only the opposing military forces, but also the spirit of the civilians. Creating a swatch of destruction across Georgia certainly drove that point home. On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, mpdickens wrote: dep wrote: i knew that he had been terribly wounded at chickamauga, My great great grandfather survived both the Battle of the Wilderness and Gettysburg (My great great uncle survived Wilderness to die at Gettysburg). However, he died from wounds he recieved at Chicamauga three days after the battle... He was from Georgia and knew if Chicamauga fell, Atlanta and therefore Georgia would fall...(Atlanta was totally burned to the ground within a month of Chicamauga. Not a single building was left standing). Milledgeville burned within a month of Atlanta and Savannah burned within a month of Milledgeville. Sheridan lost a military aid at the Battle of Chicamauga who he considered his adopted son... He swore he would burn Georgia to the ground and he did. As Sheridan marched to the sea, he literally burned *everything* in his path and left nothing In Milledgeville, he turned the Episcopal church and the Catholic church in horse stables. He ordered his men to pour molasses down the pipes of the organs located in both churches. Upon leaving Milledgeville, Sheridan ordered both churches burned to the ground and any civilians shot who tried to stop it. Problem was, Washington was so far away and communications so bad, there was nobody to stop him. It was totally unnecessary and was, in fact, an act of vengence. Best Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT i'm bored, anyone for irc?
I believe that someone provided this information for you last week. What I can't understand is if you're so determined to rip out several hundred MB of packages, why did you install them in the first place? Most server installs will gladly leave all this X related stuff out. On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, m.w.chang wrote: thanks for the tip. I am still relying on the rpm commands that I was TOLD to use. I am just no rpm expert but would like to maintain rpm's db referential integrity. :) nice clean emerge unmerge, I would head into /var/db/pkg and start removing information about the packages I removed. Isn't there something similar with RPM? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Red Hat, UnitedLinux put more muscle behind partner plans
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Re: the civil war
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 14:39, Lee wrote: Believe you mean Sherman. Sheridan burned out parts of Virginia and layer played a major role in exterminating the western Indians. Lee That would be Sheridan. I've got a Great-Great-Great-Aunt (maybe add another great for good measure, not quite sure) who spied for him, aiding in the winning of the third battle of Winchester. My father's been going to the National Archives, though, to look up the papers on his great-great grandfather's brother, who fought for Virginia. It's interesting that Rebecca got most of her information through her Confederate sister, who often had Confederate soldiers stopping by the home. Bob Raymond ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: kppp problem
Check your perms on the serial port you are using. Had the same probelm until I changed /dev/ttyS0 to 777 (or /dev/modem and the ttySx ) Iraj Medifar wrote: You're right. Suspect this is RH's way of imposing rp3 and gnome on users. I say this because rp3 seems to need the entire gnome-core and some to run. IM On Sunday 22 September 2002 08:11 am, you wrote: I dont' think there is a workaround, as that's how Redhat sets up their KPPP. Iraj Medifar wrote: Hi everyone: I have installed RH 7.1 and KDE on a Compaq Presario 1200 laptop. During installation, I decided not install Gnome, because I don?t often use it. Everything in the system works perfectly, except one little problem. I can run kppp only as root. I have edited /etc/kppp/options to remove lock. I have also set proper permissions in /usr/bin/kppp. These steps haven?t helped. What else needs to be done? Could someone please help me out? Many thanks in advance. -- Ben Duncan Phone (601)-355-2574 Fax (601)-355-2573 Cell (601)-946-1220 Business Network Solutions 336 Elton Road Jackson MS, 39212 Software is like Sex, it is better when it's free - Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the civil war
Net Llama! wrote: There are many scholarly essays which assert that Sherman was the first military leader in modern history who truly understand that in order to win a war, you must defeat not only the opposing military forces, but also the spirit of the civilians. Creating a swatch of destruction across Georgia certainly drove that point home. The south had, by this time, decisively lost the war. Also, no other city or state that Sherman conquored was so totally destroyed as Atlanta and Georgia. As brilliant a military officer as Sherman was, after Chicamauga, he was totally out of control. This point is driven home by the fact that the Union ordered him not to go South of Savannah to Florida and sent other Generals who were much less capable and much farther from Florida than he was (As much as a month away And in war, time *is* your enemy). Regarding civilians, so, you think it's OK to shoot Catholic Priests and women ss he did in Milledgeville...? You don't think that's out of control? Best Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the civil war
Being an actual Southerner (jackson, MS) the actual quote is: There is many a boy here who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell. You can bear this warning voice to generations to come. Net Llama! wrote: An additional note on Sherman. He is attributed to the quote, War is hell, which he seemed to understand better than anyone else during the war. There are many scholarly essays which assert that Sherman was the -- Ben Duncan Phone (601)-355-2574 Fax (601)-355-2573 Cell (601)-946-1220 Business Network Solutions 336 Elton Road Jackson MS, 39212 Software is like Sex, it is better when it's free - Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More glibc/gcc/binutils fun :-( (FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Hate to interrupt all this wonderful civil war talk by responding to my own post, but I fixed my problem... # cp /usr/src/glibc-2.2.5/linuxthreads/libpthread.so.0 /lib/libpthread.so.0 Maybe I'll stop f***ing with my system now... (ah, what's the fun in *that*?) Regards, Tim On 9/23/2002 8:34 AM, someone claiming to be Tim Wunder wrote: In an ongoing effort to see how badly I can hose my system and *still* have things (mostly) work, I attempted an update of binutils last night (from 2.10 that came with Caldera, to 2.13 from source). Much to my surprise, it seemed to compile and install without error. But, after issuing an ldconfig command, I get a cool new error (and linux is /fun/ again). When entering some command line commands (like 'ls' and 'make', but *not* 'rpm' or 'cat'), I get the following error: $ ls ls: relocation error: /lib/librt.so.1: symbol __pthread_clock_settime, version GLIBC_2.2.3 not defined in file libpthread.so.0 with link time reference It's interesting that all the GUI apps seemt to be working, I can view files using Konqueror, Mozilla works, Kmail and Knode work. So my system is still *kinda* working... Anybody have any suggestions on what I can try to fix *this*? Installing the old binutils didn't fixed it. Just looking for ideas to try. My ultimate answer to these problems I'm having is to install RedHat 7.3 in a spare partition, which I may get to this afternoon or tonight, but I'm interested in trying stuff to see if this can be fixed. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the civil war
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, mpdickens wrote: Net Llama! wrote: There are many scholarly essays which assert that Sherman was the first military leader in modern history who truly understand that in order to win a war, you must defeat not only the opposing military forces, but also the spirit of the civilians. Creating a swatch of destruction across Georgia certainly drove that point home. The south had, by this time, decisively lost the war. Also, no other city or state that Sherman conquored was so totally destroyed as Atlanta and Georgia. As brilliant a military officer as Sherman was, after Chicamauga, he was totally out of control. This point is driven home by the fact that the Union ordered him not to go South of Savannah to Florida and sent other Generals who were much less capable and much farther from Florida than he was (As much as a month away And in war, time *is* your enemy). Regarding civilians, so, you think it's OK to shoot Catholic Priests and women ss he did in Milledgeville...? You don't think that's out of control? I think this entire thread is wildly off topic, and i'm not going to further contribute to it. There are alot of Civil War forums available online, and this is surely not one of them. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More glibc/gcc/binutils fun :-( (FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!)
So it looks like your problem was that you didn't properly install all of glibc-2.2.5? On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: Hate to interrupt all this wonderful civil war talk by responding to my own post, but I fixed my problem... # cp /usr/src/glibc-2.2.5/linuxthreads/libpthread.so.0 /lib/libpthread.so.0 Maybe I'll stop f***ing with my system now... (ah, what's the fun in *that*?) Regards, Tim On 9/23/2002 8:34 AM, someone claiming to be Tim Wunder wrote: In an ongoing effort to see how badly I can hose my system and *still* have things (mostly) work, I attempted an update of binutils last night (from 2.10 that came with Caldera, to 2.13 from source). Much to my surprise, it seemed to compile and install without error. But, after issuing an ldconfig command, I get a cool new error (and linux is /fun/ again). When entering some command line commands (like 'ls' and 'make', but *not* 'rpm' or 'cat'), I get the following error: $ ls ls: relocation error: /lib/librt.so.1: symbol __pthread_clock_settime, version GLIBC_2.2.3 not defined in file libpthread.so.0 with link time reference It's interesting that all the GUI apps seemt to be working, I can view files using Konqueror, Mozilla works, Kmail and Knode work. So my system is still *kinda* working... Anybody have any suggestions on what I can try to fix *this*? Installing the old binutils didn't fixed it. Just looking for ideas to try. My ultimate answer to these problems I'm having is to install RedHat 7.3 in a spare partition, which I may get to this afternoon or tonight, but I'm interested in trying stuff to see if this can be fixed. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT i'm bored, anyone for irc?
Or, there are server instals that do not include and server or gui enviroment... other than via browser, as in swat/webmin. Im currently using trustix secure linux v1.5 Other than dire need of a kernel upgrade the box performs rather well. though there is no support for ISA cards. However and ISA video card will work properly in cosole mode.. The kernel that ships with v1.5 is 2.2.20 (which recently has been upgraded on the site and that I have not done yet) as Im a kernel novice. Bill Day Linux 2.2.20-1tr i586 9:10am up 19 days, 2:34, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 - Original Message - From: Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 8:46 AM Subject: Re: OT i'm bored, anyone for irc? I believe that someone provided this information for you last week. What I can't understand is if you're so determined to rip out several hundred MB of packages, why did you install them in the first place? Most server installs will gladly leave all this X related stuff out. On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, m.w.chang wrote: thanks for the tip. I am still relying on the rpm commands that I was TOLD to use. I am just no rpm expert but would like to maintain rpm's db referential integrity. :) nice clean emerge unmerge, I would head into /var/db/pkg and start removing information about the packages I removed. Isn't there something similar with RPM? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.389 / Virus Database: 220 - Release Date: 9/16/02 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the civil war
Have any of you read the John Jakes Trilogy...? Im currently about midway through part one.. Outstanding novel thus far... Bill Day Linux 2.2.20-1tr i586 9:10am up 19 days, 2:34, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 - Original Message - From: Ben Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 9:54 AM Subject: Re: the civil war Being an actual Southerner (jackson, MS) the actual quote is: There is many a boy here who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell. You can bear this warning voice to generations to come. Net Llama! wrote: An additional note on Sherman. He is attributed to the quote, War is hell, which he seemed to understand better than anyone else during the war. There are many scholarly essays which assert that Sherman was the -- Ben Duncan Phone (601)-355-2574 Fax (601)-355-2573 Cell (601)-946-1220 Business Network Solutions 336 Elton Road Jackson MS, 39212 Software is like Sex, it is better when it's free - Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.389 / Virus Database: 220 - Release Date: 9/16/02 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the civil war
On 9/23/2002 11:28 AM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: snip I think this entire thread is wildly off topic, and i'm not going to further contribute to it. There are alot of Civil War forums available online, and this is surely not one of them. Maybe we need a list to post off-topic discussions, you know, like a /general/ list for discussing such OT material. Perhaps Doug can set us up a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for this kinda thing... Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the civil war
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: On 9/23/2002 11:28 AM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: snip I think this entire thread is wildly off topic, and i'm not going to further contribute to it. There are alot of Civil War forums available online, and this is surely not one of them. Maybe we need a list to post off-topic discussions, you know, like a /general/ list for discussing such OT material. Perhaps Doug can set us up a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for this kinda thing... Tim Wunder, master of glibc sarcasm. ;) -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: grub (vga = ) parameters
On 21 Sep 2002, Bob Raymond wrote: On Sat, 2002-09-21 at 19:28, Keith Morse wrote: Just trying to find documentation where the different modes are defined. /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/modedb.txt substitute /usr/src/linux for wherever your kernel sources happen to be. You might want to poke around the other files in the fb directory while you're at it. Thanks. But I'm still not finding what the actual numbers mean. For example, I use vga=792 on this particular host. Probably picked up that number from a posting on UseNet. But I don't know what video mode it represents. The grub documentation refers to /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt which in turn refers to /usr/src/linux/Documentation/i386/boot.txt. None of which have any specifics. I found reference to /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt which has some info, though not much in the way of mode definitions. It makes mention of /usr/src/linux/Documentation/svga.txt, which agains tantalizes, but does not deliver. 792 is 0x318 hex but I could not back track how this number was derived. On Google, vga=792 is found many times. I'm assuming it's the equivalent of 1024x768. It does work well and RedHat's init scripts don't muck it up as they do when using vga=ask and choosing a video mode there. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: grub (vga = ) parameters
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 17:15, Keith Morse wrote: On 21 Sep 2002, Bob Raymond wrote: On Sat, 2002-09-21 at 19:28, Keith Morse wrote: Just trying to find documentation where the different modes are defined. /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/modedb.txt substitute /usr/src/linux for wherever your kernel sources happen to be. You might want to poke around the other files in the fb directory while you're at it. Thanks. But I'm still not finding what the actual numbers mean. For example, I use vga=792 on this particular host. Probably picked up that number from a posting on UseNet. But I don't know what video mode it represents. The grub documentation refers to /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt which in turn refers to /usr/src/linux/Documentation/i386/boot.txt. None of which have any specifics. I found reference to /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt which has some info, though not much in the way of mode definitions. It makes mention of /usr/src/linux/Documentation/svga.txt, which agains tantalizes, but does not deliver. 792 is 0x318 hex but I could not back track how this number was derived. On Google, vga=792 is found many times. I'm assuming it's the equivalent of 1024x768. It does work well and RedHat's init scripts don't muck it up as they do when using vga=ask and choosing a video mode there. That should be 1024x768 at 16 bit color. I use 794, which is 1280x1024 at 16 bit color. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
GNU *utils being combined into a single package
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Java Applet question
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Re: GNU *utils being combined into a single package
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{file,sh-,text}utils will be merged into a single package named
coreutils. Makes sense:)
Check out http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/ and get the latest
alpha version at ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/coreutils/.
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Re: Intel LaGrande
On Sunday 22 September 2002 13:53, Zoki wrote: *** Except this time it is not Intel's idea only, Microsoft is in the game too. Zoran. What do you mean this time? M$ has always been in there. Only this time its more obvious. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Java Applet question
Matt, getWidth() in 1.3+ is from the Component super class. This method did not exist in 1.1 Component. BTW, specifying -target 1.1 does *not* verify a backward compatable class. It merely makes the resulting .class file **binary compatible**. Nate --- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize this isn't necessarily a direct Linux question, but this is the largest amount of brainpower I know of. I have created an Applet and compiled it using COLW31's default JVM (Sun JVM 1.3) Loading the Applet on a Windows machine using IE5.5 and the MS JVM fails with an error message, basically: getWidth()I method not found. I load the Sun JVM on the same Windows workstation and it loads fine. Did MS break their VM further such that it won't read Applets created using the Sun JVM or is this a known LinuxJVM/MSJVM conflict? I've tried compiling for a backleveled version using the -target 1.2 and -target 1.1 options, but to no avail. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Matt ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: GNU *utils being combined into a single package
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{file,sh-,text}utils will be merged into a single package named
coreutils. Makes sense:)
Check out http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/ and get the latest
alpha version at ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/coreutils/.
Someone stop me before I try this...
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Re: the civil war vs DCMA
It has been phrased that the Civil War was the First application of modern arms borne against the old world battle technique's. Hmmm .. sounds like the DCMA trying to apply old school thoughts against new-age distribution .. Lee wrote: Ben Duncan wrote: SNIP -- Ben Duncan Phone (601)-355-2574 Fax (601)-355-2573 Cell (601)-946-1220 Business Network Solutions 336 Elton Road Jackson MS, 39212 Software is like Sex, it is better when it's free - Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the civil war
Do you mean to tell me there are those among us who find war unpleasant and distasteful? On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:17:51 -0400 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Duncan wrote: Being an actual Southerner (jackson, MS) the actual quote is: There is many a boy here who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell. You can bear this warning voice to generations to come. Snip There is also Gen Lee's quote, it's a good thing war is so terrible or we should come to love it. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the civil war
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 02:35:19PM -0500, ronnie gauthier wrote: Do you mean to tell me there are those among us who find war unpleasant and distasteful? There are those who profit from war, often supplying arms to both sides, then coming afterwards and picking up the pieces. Freqently these are the same people who lend money to the combatants, and profit from that as well. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``You know the one thing that's wrong with this country? Everyone gets a chance to have their fair say.'' -Bill Clinton, May 29, 1993, The White House ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
LINUX: The Code
I just grabbed the documentary on linux off the gnutella-net... If anyone is interested in a copy on cdr, just ask -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 9:02pm up 195 days, 2:11, 6 users, load average: 0.47, 0.86, 0.94
Re: LINUX: The Code
I saw a few weeks ago. A bit of a disapointment. For starters, its a Finish (as in the country) documentary, so chunks of it are not in English (and there are no subtitles). If you don't know anything about Linux or opensource, then its a bit interesting, but there weren't any great revelations from my perspective. And there is Stallman singing his dorky freee software song. *shudder* Jerry McBride wrote: I just grabbed the documentary on linux off the gnutella-net... If anyone is interested in a copy on cdr, just ask -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:20pm up 49 days, 2:40, 3 users, load average: 0.09, 0.08, 0.07 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Re: OT install vs un-install
I am still caldera's openlinux. It doesn't seem to have that option. Also, I worried if you don't choose full install, something would be left out that might give you headache later... I found it more intuitive to install everuthing in the first place, then take out un-needed things step-by-step esp for newbie like me. Net Llama! wrote: I believe that someone provided this information for you last week. What I can't understand is if you're so determined to rip out several hundred MB of packages, why did you install them in the first place? Most server installs will gladly leave all this X related stuff out. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT install vs un-install
m.w.chang wrote: I am still caldera's openlinux. It doesn't seem to have that option. Also, I worried if you don't choose full install, something would be left out that might give you headache later... And its now less of a headache to concoct scripts to remove all this stuff? I found it more intuitive to install everuthing in the first place, then take out un-needed things step-by-step esp for newbie like me. If its so intuitive, then why do you need others to write scripts to do it for you? Net Llama! wrote: I believe that someone provided this information for you last week. What I can't understand is if you're so determined to rip out several hundred MB of packages, why did you install them in the first place? Most server installs will gladly leave all this X related stuff out. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:40pm up 49 days, 3:00, 3 users, load average: 0.31, 0.20, 0.12 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Re: LINUX: The Code
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:21:28 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a few weeks ago. A bit of a disapointment. For starters, its a Finish (as in the country) documentary, so chunks of it are not in English (and there are no subtitles). If you don't know anything about Linux or opensource, then its a bit interesting, but there weren't any great revelations from my perspective. And there is Stallman singing his dorky freee software song. *shudder* yeah... pretty sad. On the other hand you can see and hear Linus walking and talking about his brain child. It amazes me that he's so young... why didn't I do that? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 9:44pm up 195 days, 2:53, 6 users, load average: 1.86, 1.89, 1.82 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cut
thanks. I guess you wrote html message Brad De Vries wrote: You could try the 'sed' command: cat kernel.01 | sed -e #34;s/.*DPT=/DPT=/#34; -e #34;s/ .*//#34; -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LINUX: The Code
Jerry McBride wrote: On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:21:28 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a few weeks ago. A bit of a disapointment. For starters, its a Finish (as in the country) documentary, so chunks of it are not in English (and there are no subtitles). If you don't know anything about Linux or opensource, then its a bit interesting, but there weren't any great revelations from my perspective. And there is Stallman singing his dorky freee software song. *shudder* yeah... pretty sad. sad scary. On the other hand you can see and hear Linus walking and talking about his brain child. It amazes me that he's so young... why didn't I do that? hehehehe...yea he is quite young (remember that he started Linux while he was in college). One cool aspect of the movie was that alot of the scenes of Linus driving around occured locally to me, in the SF Bay area. For those looking for a really good Linux movie, check out 'Revolution OS'. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:05pm up 49 days, 3:25, 3 users, load average: 0.14, 0.20, 0.14 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: GNU *utils being combined into a single package
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Tim Wunder wrote:
On 9/23/2002 12:26 PM, someone claiming to be Tushar Teredesai (by way
of Douglas J Hunley ) wrote:
I was checking out GNU's website and acc. to the site
{file,sh-,text}utils will be merged into a single package named
coreutils. Makes sense:)
Check out http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/ and get the latest
alpha version at ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/coreutils/.
Someone stop me before I try this...
Luke, never underestimate the power of the dark side. I mean, Tim.
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Re: grub (vga = ) parameters
On 23 Sep 2002, Bob Raymond wrote: That should be 1024x768 at 16 bit color. I use 794, which is 1280x1024 at 16 bit color. Oo. slicker still. But.. How did you know? Trial and error? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the civil war
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:54:54 -0500 Ben Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being an actual Southerner (jackson, MS) the actual quote is: There is many a boy here who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell. You can bear this warning voice to generations to come. Net Llama! wrote: An additional note on Sherman. He is attributed to the quote, War is hell, which he seemed to understand better than anyone else during the war. There are many scholarly essays which assert that Sherman was the -- Ben Duncan Phone (601)-355-2574 Fax (601)-355-2573 Cell (601)-946-1220 Business Network Solutions 336 Elton Road Jackson MS, 39212 Software is like Sex, it is better when it's free - Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Ben Having spent the better part of 4 years in Viet Nam, I know the horrors of war. War is hell and there are no other words to describe the horror. Cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
