Re: the civil war

2002-09-24 Thread Keith Morse

On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Tim Wunder wrote:

 Maybe we need a list to post off-topic discussions, you know, like a 
 /general/ list for discussing such OT material. Perhaps Doug can set us 
 up a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for this kinda thing...
 
 Regards,
 Tim


Hey, hey, HEY,now!  The general list has been pristine and post free for 
several weeks now.  Let's not destroy a perfectly good record, OK?

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Re: LINUX: The Code

2002-09-24 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:21:28 -0700
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I saw a few weeks ago. A bit of a disapointment.  For starters, its a 
 Finish (as in the country) documentary, so chunks of it are not in 
 English (and there are no subtitles).  If you don't know anything about 

You mean everyone on a Linux list is not fluent in Finnish? I am stunned.
Linux is, after all, an attempt by the Finnish government to extend the use
of the national language. First, create the interest. Then see that Linus
only communicates (spoken and written) in Finnish after we are all hooked.
I think on Ney Years Eve of 2003 all Nokia phones will only do Finnish. It
is all a concerted effort...



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Re: kppp problem

2002-09-24 Thread Iraj Medifar

Changed perms on ttyS1, /dev/modem and /dev/ppp to 777.  Didn't help. Do you 
use RH?

On Monday 23 September 2002 07:11 am, you wrote:
 Check your perms on the serial port you are using. Had the same
 probelm until I changed
 /dev/ttyS0 to 777 (or /dev/modem and the ttySx )

 Iraj Medifar wrote:
  You're right. Suspect this is RH's way of imposing rp3 and gnome on
  users.  I say this because rp3 seems to need the entire gnome-core and
  some to run.
 
  IM
 
  On Sunday 22 September 2002 08:11 am, you wrote:
 I dont' think there is a workaround, as that's how Redhat sets up their
 KPPP.
 
 Iraj Medifar wrote:
 Hi everyone:
 
 I have installed RH 7.1 and KDE on a Compaq Presario 1200 laptop. During
 installation, I decided not install Gnome, because I don?t often use it.
 Everything in the system works perfectly, except one little problem. I
 can run kppp only as root. I have edited /etc/kppp/options to remove
 lock. I have also set proper permissions in /usr/bin/kppp. These steps
 haven?t helped. What else needs to be done? Could someone please help me
 out?
 
 Many thanks in advance.

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printing

2002-09-24 Thread Ted Ozolins

While trying to print (Slackware 8.1) I keep getting this error. 

A print error occured. Error message received from system:

/usr/bin/lpr -P 'ibm' '-#1' '/tmp/kde-root/kdeprint_ViVAyHg' : execution 
failed with message:
Status Information: sending job 'root@crash+278' to ibm@localhost connecting 
to 'localhost', attempt 1 cannot open connection to localhost - Connection 
refused Make sure the remote host supports the LPD protocol

Any idea what I've messed up?
The printer is set up as a local printer on a parallel port.

TIA
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Westbank, B. C.

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Re: grub (vga = ) parameters

2002-09-24 Thread Bob Raymond

On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 04:24, Keith Morse wrote:
 On 23 Sep 2002, Bob Raymond wrote:
 
  That should be 1024x768 at 16 bit color.  I use 794, which is 1280x1024
  at 16 bit color.
 
 
 Oo. slicker still.  But..  How did you know?  Trial and error?

792 I knew from using SuSE- when I selected 1024x768 on the install of
7.3, I looked at /etc/lilo.conf aftewards.  vga was set to 792.  I
honestly can't remember how I got 794, and I'd really like to take
advantage of my 17 in. Trinitron and my great high-schooler's eyes, and
set it to 1600x1200 with 16 bit color, maybe even 24 or 32 if I can
figure it out.  I run my desktop at 1600x1200 with 24 bit color, anyway.

Does someone want me to research this a bit more and write a step by
step for it with a nice index of all the modes say from 640x480 to
2048x1536 (the current high point for most consumer graphics cards, not
that I'm sure vesafb goes that high)?

Bob Raymond



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Re: OT install vs un-install

2002-09-24 Thread James McDonald

#!/bin/sh

kde=`rpm -qa | grep kde`

for i in $kde
do
echo Removing $i
rpm -e $i

done

gnome=`rpm -qa | grep gnome`

for i in $gnome
do
echo Removing $i
rpm -e $i

done

echo Finished

I used this on my Redhat 7.3 box and it seems to still work sans all the gui 
stuff


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Re: the civil war

2002-09-24 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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Keith Morse spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
 On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Tim Wunder wrote:
  Maybe we need a list to post off-topic discussions, you know, like a
  /general/ list for discussing such OT material. Perhaps Doug can set us
  up a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for this kinda thing...
 
  Regards,
  Tim

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Re: printing

2002-09-24 Thread Ted Ozolins

On Tuesday 24 September 2002 03:56, Joel Hammer wrote:
 Is lpd running?
 Joel

Thanks Joel, that was the problem. 

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Re: grub (vga = ) parameters

2002-09-24 Thread Federico Voges

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On 24 Sep 2002 11:24:20 +0100, Bob Raymond wrote:

On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 04:24, Keith Morse wrote:
 On 23 Sep 2002, Bob Raymond wrote:
 
  That should be 1024x768 at 16 bit color.  I use 794, which is 1280x1024
  at 16 bit color.
 
 
 Oo. slicker still.  But..  How did you know?  Trial and error?

792 I knew from using SuSE- when I selected 1024x768 on the install of
7.3, I looked at /etc/lilo.conf aftewards.  vga was set to 792.  I
honestly can't remember how I got 794, and I'd really like to take
advantage of my 17 in. Trinitron and my great high-schooler's eyes, and
set it to 1600x1200 with 16 bit color, maybe even 24 or 32 if I can
figure it out.  I run my desktop at 1600x1200 with 24 bit color, anyway.

Does someone want me to research this a bit more and write a step by
step for it with a nice index of all the modes say from 640x480 to
2048x1536 (the current high point for most consumer graphics cards, not
that I'm sure vesafb goes that high)?

Bob Raymond


- From Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt (in the kernel src dir):

How to use it?
==

Switching modes is done using the vga=... boot parameter.  Read
Documentation/svga.txt for details.

You should compile in both vgacon (for text mode) and vesafb (for
graphics mode). Which of them takes over the console depends on
whenever the specified mode is text or graphics.

The graphic modes are NOT in the list which you get if you boot with
vga=ask and hit return. The mode you wish to use is derived from the
VESA mode number. Here are those VESA mode numbers:

| 640x480  800x600  1024x768 1280x1024
- +-
256 |  0x1010x1030x1050x107   
32k |  0x1100x1130x1160x119   
64k |  0x1110x1140x1170x11A   
16M |  0x1120x1150x1180x11B   

The video mode number of the Linux kernel is the VESA mode number plus
0x200.
 
 Linux_kernel_mode_number = VESA_mode_number + 0x200

So the table for the Kernel mode numbers are:

| 640x480  800x600  1024x768 1280x1024
- +-
256 |  0x3010x3030x3050x307   
32k |  0x3100x3130x3160x319   
64k |  0x3110x3140x3170x31A   
16M |  0x3120x3150x3180x31B   

To enable one of those modes you have to specify vga=ask in the
lilo.conf file and rerun LILO. Then you can type in the desired
mode at the vga=ask prompt. For example if you like to use 
1024x768x256 colors you have to say 305 at this prompt.

If this does not work, this might be because your BIOS does not support
linear framebuffers or because it does not support this mode at all.
Even if your board does, it might be the BIOS which does not.  VESA
BIOS
Extensions v2.0 are required, 1.2 is NOT sufficient.  You will get a
bad mode number message if something goes wrong.

1. Note: LILO cannot handle hex, for booting directly with 
 vga=mode-number you have to transform the numbers to
decimal.
2. Note: Some newer versions of LILO appear to work with those hex
values,
 if you set the 0x in front of the numbers.


Just convert those hex numbers to decimal and you'll find where that
792/794 came from ;)

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Re: the civil war

2002-09-24 Thread Rick Forrister

On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 12:35, ronnie gauthier wrote:
 Do you mean to tell me there are those among us who find war unpleasant
 and distasteful?

Particularly those of us who have been there, done that.  Personally,
I'd love to try following a politician of most any stripe onto the
battlefield.  Note that I said follow.  8^)

rickf

 
 On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:17:51 -0400
 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Ben Duncan wrote:
  
  Being an actual Southerner (jackson, MS) the actual quote is:
  
  There is many a boy here  who looks on war as all glory, but, boys,
  it is all hell. You can bear
  this warning voice to generations to come.
  
 Snip
 
 There is also Gen Lee's quote, it's a good thing war is so terrible or
 we should come to love it.

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Re: the civil war

2002-09-24 Thread ronnie gauthier

I should have bracketed my statement in sarcasm
I should think most humans find war unpleasant. Except for that certain
sub-set of the population that when released from social boundries and
allowed to kill find they suddenly suffer from priapism.

On 24 Sep 2002 03:50:29 -0700
Rick Forrister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 12:35, ronnie gauthier wrote:
 Do you mean to tell me there are those among us who find war
unpleasant and distasteful?

Particularly those of us who have been there, done that.  Personally,
I'd love to try following a politician of most any stripe onto the
battlefield.  Note that I said follow.  8^)

rickf

 
 On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:17:51 -0400
 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Ben Duncan wrote:
  
  Being an actual Southerner (jackson, MS) the actual quote is:
  
  There is many a boy here  who looks on war as all glory, but,
boys,  it is all hell. You can bear
  this warning voice to generations to come.
  
 Snip
 
 There is also Gen Lee's quote, it's a good thing war is so terrible
or we should come to love it.

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