Re: the civil war
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: Maybe we need a list to post off-topic discussions, you know, like a /general/ list for discussing such OT material. Perhaps Doug can set us up a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for this kinda thing... Regards, Tim Hey, hey, HEY,now! The general list has been pristine and post free for several weeks now. Let's not destroy a perfectly good record, OK? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LINUX: The Code
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:21:28 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a few weeks ago. A bit of a disapointment. For starters, its a Finish (as in the country) documentary, so chunks of it are not in English (and there are no subtitles). If you don't know anything about You mean everyone on a Linux list is not fluent in Finnish? I am stunned. Linux is, after all, an attempt by the Finnish government to extend the use of the national language. First, create the interest. Then see that Linus only communicates (spoken and written) in Finnish after we are all hooked. I think on Ney Years Eve of 2003 all Nokia phones will only do Finnish. It is all a concerted effort... -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: kppp problem
Changed perms on ttyS1, /dev/modem and /dev/ppp to 777. Didn't help. Do you use RH? On Monday 23 September 2002 07:11 am, you wrote: Check your perms on the serial port you are using. Had the same probelm until I changed /dev/ttyS0 to 777 (or /dev/modem and the ttySx ) Iraj Medifar wrote: You're right. Suspect this is RH's way of imposing rp3 and gnome on users. I say this because rp3 seems to need the entire gnome-core and some to run. IM On Sunday 22 September 2002 08:11 am, you wrote: I dont' think there is a workaround, as that's how Redhat sets up their KPPP. Iraj Medifar wrote: Hi everyone: I have installed RH 7.1 and KDE on a Compaq Presario 1200 laptop. During installation, I decided not install Gnome, because I don?t often use it. Everything in the system works perfectly, except one little problem. I can run kppp only as root. I have edited /etc/kppp/options to remove lock. I have also set proper permissions in /usr/bin/kppp. These steps haven?t helped. What else needs to be done? Could someone please help me out? Many thanks in advance. -- Iraj Medifar [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
printing
While trying to print (Slackware 8.1) I keep getting this error. A print error occured. Error message received from system: /usr/bin/lpr -P 'ibm' '-#1' '/tmp/kde-root/kdeprint_ViVAyHg' : execution failed with message: Status Information: sending job 'root@crash+278' to ibm@localhost connecting to 'localhost', attempt 1 cannot open connection to localhost - Connection refused Make sure the remote host supports the LPD protocol Any idea what I've messed up? The printer is set up as a local printer on a parallel port. TIA -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: grub (vga = ) parameters
On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 04:24, Keith Morse wrote: On 23 Sep 2002, Bob Raymond wrote: That should be 1024x768 at 16 bit color. I use 794, which is 1280x1024 at 16 bit color. Oo. slicker still. But.. How did you know? Trial and error? 792 I knew from using SuSE- when I selected 1024x768 on the install of 7.3, I looked at /etc/lilo.conf aftewards. vga was set to 792. I honestly can't remember how I got 794, and I'd really like to take advantage of my 17 in. Trinitron and my great high-schooler's eyes, and set it to 1600x1200 with 16 bit color, maybe even 24 or 32 if I can figure it out. I run my desktop at 1600x1200 with 24 bit color, anyway. Does someone want me to research this a bit more and write a step by step for it with a nice index of all the modes say from 640x480 to 2048x1536 (the current high point for most consumer graphics cards, not that I'm sure vesafb goes that high)? Bob Raymond ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT install vs un-install
#!/bin/sh kde=`rpm -qa | grep kde` for i in $kde do echo Removing $i rpm -e $i done gnome=`rpm -qa | grep gnome` for i in $gnome do echo Removing $i rpm -e $i done echo Finished I used this on my Redhat 7.3 box and it seems to still work sans all the gui stuff -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Public key (824785B3) available at http://www.keyserver.net/ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the civil war
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keith Morse spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: Maybe we need a list to post off-topic discussions, you know, like a /general/ list for discussing such OT material. Perhaps Doug can set us up a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for this kinda thing... Regards, Tim http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/general - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org How do you feel about women's rights? I like either side of them. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9kH0USrrWWknCnMIRAkISAJ0bX8JOVqPjXYVBahpFaSRqp+DqMgCfezZo 99XEAK+EJonZ5h6/TW7hGhY= =HBZv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: printing
On Tuesday 24 September 2002 03:56, Joel Hammer wrote: Is lpd running? Joel Thanks Joel, that was the problem. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: grub (vga = ) parameters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 24 Sep 2002 11:24:20 +0100, Bob Raymond wrote: On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 04:24, Keith Morse wrote: On 23 Sep 2002, Bob Raymond wrote: That should be 1024x768 at 16 bit color. I use 794, which is 1280x1024 at 16 bit color. Oo. slicker still. But.. How did you know? Trial and error? 792 I knew from using SuSE- when I selected 1024x768 on the install of 7.3, I looked at /etc/lilo.conf aftewards. vga was set to 792. I honestly can't remember how I got 794, and I'd really like to take advantage of my 17 in. Trinitron and my great high-schooler's eyes, and set it to 1600x1200 with 16 bit color, maybe even 24 or 32 if I can figure it out. I run my desktop at 1600x1200 with 24 bit color, anyway. Does someone want me to research this a bit more and write a step by step for it with a nice index of all the modes say from 640x480 to 2048x1536 (the current high point for most consumer graphics cards, not that I'm sure vesafb goes that high)? Bob Raymond - From Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt (in the kernel src dir): How to use it? == Switching modes is done using the vga=... boot parameter. Read Documentation/svga.txt for details. You should compile in both vgacon (for text mode) and vesafb (for graphics mode). Which of them takes over the console depends on whenever the specified mode is text or graphics. The graphic modes are NOT in the list which you get if you boot with vga=ask and hit return. The mode you wish to use is derived from the VESA mode number. Here are those VESA mode numbers: | 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 - +- 256 | 0x1010x1030x1050x107 32k | 0x1100x1130x1160x119 64k | 0x1110x1140x1170x11A 16M | 0x1120x1150x1180x11B The video mode number of the Linux kernel is the VESA mode number plus 0x200. Linux_kernel_mode_number = VESA_mode_number + 0x200 So the table for the Kernel mode numbers are: | 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 - +- 256 | 0x3010x3030x3050x307 32k | 0x3100x3130x3160x319 64k | 0x3110x3140x3170x31A 16M | 0x3120x3150x3180x31B To enable one of those modes you have to specify vga=ask in the lilo.conf file and rerun LILO. Then you can type in the desired mode at the vga=ask prompt. For example if you like to use 1024x768x256 colors you have to say 305 at this prompt. If this does not work, this might be because your BIOS does not support linear framebuffers or because it does not support this mode at all. Even if your board does, it might be the BIOS which does not. VESA BIOS Extensions v2.0 are required, 1.2 is NOT sufficient. You will get a bad mode number message if something goes wrong. 1. Note: LILO cannot handle hex, for booting directly with vga=mode-number you have to transform the numbers to decimal. 2. Note: Some newer versions of LILO appear to work with those hex values, if you set the 0x in front of the numbers. Just convert those hex numbers to decimal and you'll find where that 792/794 came from ;) Bye! Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPZCHuhRcJRaVKt4XEQJ6YgCfYY15hLwcFBl0ecGz3GcMlHa1WdYAoOlP LSCmuVtZPw65XhLlLAumij6W =7stH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the civil war
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 12:35, ronnie gauthier wrote: Do you mean to tell me there are those among us who find war unpleasant and distasteful? Particularly those of us who have been there, done that. Personally, I'd love to try following a politician of most any stripe onto the battlefield. Note that I said follow. 8^) rickf On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:17:51 -0400 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Duncan wrote: Being an actual Southerner (jackson, MS) the actual quote is: There is many a boy here who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell. You can bear this warning voice to generations to come. Snip There is also Gen Lee's quote, it's a good thing war is so terrible or we should come to love it. -- If you are successfull they'll beat a path to your doorstep ... Picket signs firmly in hand! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the civil war
I should have bracketed my statement in sarcasm I should think most humans find war unpleasant. Except for that certain sub-set of the population that when released from social boundries and allowed to kill find they suddenly suffer from priapism. On 24 Sep 2002 03:50:29 -0700 Rick Forrister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 12:35, ronnie gauthier wrote: Do you mean to tell me there are those among us who find war unpleasant and distasteful? Particularly those of us who have been there, done that. Personally, I'd love to try following a politician of most any stripe onto the battlefield. Note that I said follow. 8^) rickf On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:17:51 -0400 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Duncan wrote: Being an actual Southerner (jackson, MS) the actual quote is: There is many a boy here who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell. You can bear this warning voice to generations to come. Snip There is also Gen Lee's quote, it's a good thing war is so terrible or we should come to love it. -- If you are successfull they'll beat a path to your doorstep ... Picket signs firmly in hand! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users