Crash Recovery Kit for Linux 2.4.19 (Stable)
Crash Recovery Kit for Linux 2.4.19 (Stable) http://freshmeat.net/projects/crk/ how would you test this kit? -- .~.Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. In Linux we trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.19 ^ ^7:45pm up 16 days, 5:56, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
again, not when I am new to linux. do you know how intimidating for a newbie when they see doors and doors of obstacles to setup a simple home server behind a hardware firewall+router? Most newbies are not ready for the hussles at the *Very* beginning. More research into viruses, trojans and worms might convince you otherwise. -- .~.Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. In Linux we trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.19 ^ ^7:45pm up 16 days, 5:56, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DVD/CD RW and Linux
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:39:07 -0500 (EST), Net Llama! wrote: I think this might answer your question: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8threadm=slrnaqmulh.nlo.danceswithcrows%40samantha.crow202.dyndns.orgrnum=3prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3Ddvd%2520burn%26safe%3Dimages%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26as_ugroup%3D*linux*%26lr%3D%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D12%26as_minm%3D1%26as_miny%3D2002%26as_maxd%3D13%26as_maxm%3D11%26as_maxy%3D2002%26num%3D100%26hl%3Den http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8frame=rightth=4eca0601d31a3ac2seekm=ZSyG8.10727%24fH5.11256210%40kent.svc.tds.net#link3 http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue83/stoddard.html Thanks for the info, Lonnie. That helped a lot. Now I've decided to skip the dvd writing. I really only wanted to read dvd and write to cd; so I'm looking at a Plextor Combo that does that. It says that DMA must be enabled and give directions for doing so in Windows. I'm thinking this will mean recompiling this into my kernel. I have two machines - one is a Walmart Microtel and that has several of the DMA selections enabled in the kernel. I'm not sure what it has in the Lindows kernel, but I installed plain Debian 3.0 on it and it gave me a kernel with DMA. My other computer is one I put together about 3 years ago. It has an Ultra DMA 66, but the kernel does not have any of the DMA selections made. I think that is because I did a fresh compile of the kernel and had to figure out what to select. I'm thinking I'll try a fresh install of debian on that machine to see what I end up with in the kernel. Or, I might just try a recompile with whatever looks good under DMA. This is the computer I want to put the Plextor in. Does this make sense? Corrections or advice appreciated. -- Anita GnuPG key: 1024D/9EDAC910 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: New Step
On 11/18/2002 10:01 PM, someone claiming to be Nobody wrote: Thanks to Net Llama! we now have a Step on Playing all Quicktime movies natively in Linux. You may find this step at http://www.linux-sxs.org/qt_MPlayer.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Interesting. But for $25, I'll stick with using Crossover Plugin and Quicktime. Although, I don't see where NetLlama's technique is any more native than Codeweavers'. Both rely on Wine and Quicktime DLLs. The main difference is that Lonnie's technique is essentially free, and more difficult to configure. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
vi error !! ??
When I edit a file using vi in a terminal, I get the following error on quitting: viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: þÿu^P~KE^XÇ viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: j viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: ,ÿp^P~KD^@ viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: ,ÿp^TWè³Çÿÿ~IÇÆ^G viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: ~CÄô~K@,ÿp^Tè4Áÿÿ~IÂ~K^B~KM^L~IA^D^O·B^D f~IA^H¸^A viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: ¸ë^L~Mv Hit ENTER or type command to continue Anyone have any idea what the ? this means -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
sco linux 4.0 released today
http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=287 -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: vi error !! ??
Ken Moffat wrote: When I edit a file using vi in a terminal, I get the following error on quitting: viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: þÿu^P~KE^XÇ viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: j viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: ,ÿp^P~KD^@ viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: ,ÿp^TWè³Çÿÿ~IÇÆ^G viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: ~CÄô~K@,ÿp^Tè4Áÿÿ~IÂ~K^B~KM^L~IA^D^O·B^D f~IA^H¸^A viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: ¸ë^L~Mv Hit ENTER or type command to continue Anyone have any idea what the ? this means There is/can be a .viminfo file in your home dir, maybe its screwy? --jim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, m.w.chang wrote: It's another chicken and egg question. One thing I know: I am not making money out of selling security. :) There's no chicken egg about it. You either learn security from the start, or you don't. M$ isn't making money from security either. Funny how the entire crux of your argument closely paralleles M$. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: New Step
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: On 11/18/2002 10:01 PM, someone claiming to be Nobody wrote: Thanks to Net Llama! we now have a Step on Playing all Quicktime movies natively in Linux. You may find this step at http://www.linux-sxs.org/qt_MPlayer.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Interesting. But for $25, I'll stick with using Crossover Plugin and Quicktime. Although, I don't see where NetLlama's technique is any more native than Codeweavers'. Both rely on Wine and Quicktime DLLs. The main difference is that Lonnie's technique is essentially free, and more difficult to configure. More difficult? I've installed Crossover (thanks Tim) and honestly found it to be alot more 'smoke mirrors' than the MPlayer method that i documented. More importantly, Crossover just plain doesn't work on my box. It crashes Mozilla instantly. And yea, it costs nothing. I'd be really really pissed if i had paid for Crossover only to find out that it didn't work out of the box. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, m.w.chang wrote: when I want to use the security system, I would surely appreciate that. but at some point in learning linux, just like your life, you wouldn't want to be distracted by security measures. Filesystem security is a part of Linux. If you're not learning about it, then you're nor learning Linux. Period. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, m.w.chang wrote: again, not when I am new to linux. do you know how intimidating for a newbie when they see doors and doors of obstacles to setup a simple home server behind a hardware firewall+router? Most newbies are not ready for the hussles at the *Very* beginning. Then they should stick with M$ products. Linux doesn't have training wheels. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DVD/CD RW and Linux
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Anita Lewis wrote: On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:39:07 -0500 (EST), Net Llama! wrote: I think this might answer your question: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8threadm=slrnaqmulh.nlo.danceswithcrows%40samantha.crow202.dyndns.orgrnum=3prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3Ddvd%2520burn%26safe%3Dimages%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26as_ugroup%3D*linux*%26lr%3D%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D12%26as_minm%3D1%26as_miny%3D2002%26as_maxd%3D13%26as_maxm%3D11%26as_maxy%3D2002%26num%3D100%26hl%3Den http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8frame=rightth=4eca0601d31a3ac2seekm=ZSyG8.10727%24fH5.11256210%40kent.svc.tds.net#link3 http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue83/stoddard.html Thanks for the info, Lonnie. That helped a lot. Now I've decided to skip the dvd writing. I really only wanted to read dvd and write to cd; so I'm looking at a Plextor Combo that does that. It says that DMA must be enabled and give directions for doing so in Windows. I'm thinking this will mean recompiling this into my kernel. I have two machines - one is a Walmart Microtel and that has several of the DMA selections enabled in the kernel. I'm not sure what it has in the Lindows kernel, but I installed plain Debian 3.0 on it and it gave me a kernel with DMA. My other computer is one I put together about 3 years ago. It has an Ultra DMA 66, but the kernel does not have any of the DMA selections made. I think that is because I did a fresh compile of the kernel and had to figure out what to select. I'm thinking I'll try a fresh install of debian on that machine to see what I end up with in the kernel. Or, I might just try a recompile with whatever looks good under DMA. This is the computer I want to put the Plextor in. Does this make sense? Corrections or advice appreciated. AFAIK, DMA isn't explicitly a kernel setting. For most IDE controllers, you get the support by compiling support in the kernel for vanilla IDE. There are a small number that need special support in the kernel, but not the majority. After that, all you need is hdparm to tune DMA settings. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
I think you are missing the point MW, learning Linux without the security features would be like learning to operate an automobile without learning the traffic regulations - you get from point A to point B but cause many problems for others along the way. Look at it this way - if YOU don't have to be bothered with security measures etc., then what chance do you have of keeping someone from taking over your box(en) and using it/them to attack other systems. THis is a Bad Thing (tm) as the authorities then come gunning for YOU not 'them'. but hey! they're your boxes... Myles On Tuesday 19 November 2002 00:50, m.w.chang wrote: when I want to use the security system, I would surely appreciate that. but at some point in learning linux, just like your life, you wouldn't want to be distracted by security measures. I am truly puzzled by this. I enjoyed the convenience of having my user account (I back up my production files) for playing around and trying things in, knowing I wouldn't destroy the entire distribution if I did so. In fact, I even have a couple of fake users for some particular ways of experimenting. I find the security features freeing rather than restricting. I mean, how hard is it to type su - and enter a password? -- Myles Green - zeus Wednesday Nov 13 2002 19:20:00 MST - It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 11:23:28AM +0800, m.w.chang wrote: sorry, i just want to avoid the hussles related to file system access control (FSAC) or security when learning linux as starters. out of my linux learning experience, many times, I was hinderd by all these security things. Understood. But, you can't separate *nixen from file system access control. They two are intrinsically related. You see, for a really newbie, their primary interest is NOT security, but functions. I and many others don't want to be security experts or (despite of all those blackmails from hackers and security advisors). I do beileve functions can be obtained without caring about secuirty. Call DOS a toy, but it did serve everyone and contributed to the world's automation process. Thalidomide did pregnant women a great service by relieving nausea. I think the flipper babies show the service wasn't worth the ultimate price. DOS *is* a toy, perhaps an educational one. At the end of the day, however, if you don't learn a little about file system security, you aren't learning Linux or Unix. Period. That's why I said linux (if not open-source computing) is about security only. I guess, I will still be bugged by security subsystems in linux for the rest of my learning processs. Yup. Sorry. Kurt -- Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 19 November 2002 5:50 am, m.w.chang wrote: again, not when I am new to linux. do you know how intimidating for a newbie when they see doors and doors of obstacles to setup a simple home server behind a hardware firewall+router? Most newbies are not ready for the hussles at the *Very* beginning. More research into viruses, trojans and worms might convince you otherwise. Here's the problem I ran into. When I first installed linux, I ran as root for a long time (no security issues). Some cracker screwed my system to the wall, so I had to reinstall it. I then learned to run as a user. My users files got messed up by some cracker. I even set up a separate fake user for internet access. Some overflow problem messed up the root system. Now I run behind a firewall (not hardware and according to tests, I am invisible to outside hackers) and I've not had problems since. I discovered that most systems will be at least looked at by hackers within 15 minutes of getting online and often faster than that. Many times on Windows, the reason a reinstall is necessary every few months (esp for 9X systems) is that crackers mess things up sometimes even when they don't intend to. - -- Robert Black Eagle Linux for stability; GPG for security -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE92mG9tjSYKkYJrmcRAoXnAJ4lqJbF/U+mHuWgG7Gj+zSgxh6OJgCdFVUG AqTAiydY3+Uv3VIFc31ksq4= =NRLP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: everything is dumping core!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:40:02 -0500 (EST) begin Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: Ok, not everything, but everything that I compile immediately dumps core when i attempt to run it. How would i go about troubleshooting this? start w/ a strace. Sounds like a library is hosed. Should show up in strace. Post to the list the last 20 lines or so. strace programname David- - -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE92qnW3uVcotqGMQcRAn8OAJ90h3fnSimBJ3MEQ2Fn5Da5vqzOXgCg1aSD SuAPJ4LtXXQmNKkfFdWkfwA= =4dLU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
everything is dumping core!
Ok, not everything, but everything that I compile immediately dumps core when i attempt to run it. How would i go about troubleshooting this? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: education and security
I think our discussion will soon become: education and security :) -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: everything is dumping core!
great! you got a test case for the linux crash recovery kit. mirror your disk now.. :) Net Llama! wrote: Ok, not everything, but everything that I compile immediately dumps core when i attempt to run it. How would i go about troubleshooting this? -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
agree. if these guys had gone through the days of DOS, I believe they would be better users. I suspected that some users didn't even know how to spell their name in english alphabets. :) Then they should stick with M$ products. Linux doesn't have training wheels. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
sir, I want the house, not the lock. I beg your pardon. I am/was not looking for a job on linux security. when I want to use the security system, I would surely appreciate that. but at some point in learning linux, just like your life, you wouldn't Nonsense. That's akin to saying that a first time homeowner shouldn't have to deal with the locks on the doors, the house should already be -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
I am sorry, at this stage, I prefer to learn the programming and coding that *created* security. I don't learn security because of security, general. :) When I could control security by proper programming and coding, I got secuity automagically. There's no chicken egg about it. You either learn security from the start, or you don't. M$ isn't making money from security either. Funny how the entire crux of your argument closely paralleles M$. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
fine. yes. agree, but I still want a demilitarized linux. I will join the army later. :) Filesystem security is a part of Linux. If you're not learning about it, then you're nor learning Linux. Period. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
to put it in an even more simple, if not ulgy way, execuse me, learning linux with security = having sex in front of a police officer and a doctor. Myles Green wrote: I think you are missing the point MW, learning Linux without the security features would be like learning to operate an automobile without learning the traffic regulations - you get from point A to point B but cause many problems for others along the way. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
m.w.chang wrote: when I want to use the security system, I would surely appreciate that. but at some point in learning linux, just like your life, you wouldn't want to be distracted by security measures. snip Nonsense. That's akin to saying that a first time homeowner shouldn't have to deal with the locks on the doors, the house should already be secure. Yeah, the house should have good locks, but the owner is still responsible for operating them as necessary. There is no guaranteed right that says an individual does not have to be responsible for knowing what they're doing. How much does something have to be dumbed down to the point that everyone is considered competent? You might as well make college entrance exams be passing at the 3rd grade reading level so that people don't have to be distracted by having to actually LEARN something. -- Andrew Mathews --- 5:40pm up 6:14, 7 users, load average: 1.01, 1.06, 1.08 --- What's the matter with the world? Why, there ain't but one thing wrong with every one of us -- and that's selfishness. -- The Best of Will Rogers ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
On 11/19/02 15:38, Ben Duncan wrote: Some VERY Simple rules. Turn off ALL network Services not needed to run the system (this is done in the inetd.conf file). Cancel, trash or otherwise do away with daemon That's not entirely true. In fact, its completely untrue on some systems. Only inetd services are controlled in via inetd. And on more recent systems, its controlled via xinetd, not inetd. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:15pm up 38 days, 5:30, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.04, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: everything is dumping core!
On 11/19/02 13:54, David A. Bandel wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:43:18 -0500 (EST)
begin Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:
[snip]
rt_sigaction(SIGRTMIN,{0x403e8470, [], 0x400}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGRT_1,{0x403e75f0, [], 0x400}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGRT_2,{0x403e8500, [], 0x400}, NULL, 8) = 0 ---
SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault)---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++
Ugly -- signal 11 (man 7 signals). Check your memory thoroughly.
Where do you see sig11?
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Re: ext2fs and security settings
Some VERY Simple rules. Turn off ALL network Services not needed to run the system (this is done in the inetd.conf file). Cancel, trash or otherwise do away with daemon process you DO NOT need. With the FEW remaining services in networking - run them thru wrappers. From there on, build the iptables/chains for the firewall. Oh yeah . if you do NOT NEED NFS - get the h*ll rid of it . Robert Black Eagle wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 19 November 2002 5:50 am, m.w.chang wrote: again, not when I am new to linux. do you know how intimidating for a newbie when they see doors and doors of obstacles to setup a simple home server behind a hardware firewall+router? Most newbies are not ready for the hussles at the *Very* beginning. More research into viruses, trojans and worms might convince you otherwise. Here's the problem I ran into. When I first installed linux, I ran as root for a long time (no security issues). Some cracker screwed my system to the wall, so I had to reinstall it. I then learned to run as a user. My users files got messed up by some cracker. I even set up a separate fake user for internet access. Some overflow problem messed up the root system. Now I run behind a firewall (not hardware and according to tests, I am invisible to outside hackers) and I've not had problems since. I discovered that most systems will be at least looked at by hackers within 15 minutes of getting online and often faster than that. Many times on Windows, the reason a reinstall is necessary every few months (esp for 9X systems) is that crackers mess things up sometimes even when they don't intend to. - -- Robert Black Eagle Linux for stability; GPG for security -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE92mG9tjSYKkYJrmcRAoXnAJ4lqJbF/U+mHuWgG7Gj+zSgxh6OJgCdFVUG AqTAiydY3+Uv3VIFc31ksq4= =NRLP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users . -- Ben Duncan Phone (601)-355-2574 Fax (601)-355-2573 Cell (601)-946-1220 Business Network Solutions 336 Elton Road Jackson MS, 39212 Software is like Sex, it is better when it's free - Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sco linux 4.0 released today
hmm.. no frontpage news in http://www.sco.com :) dep wrote: http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=287 -- .~.Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. In Linux we trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.19 ^ ^6:45am up 16 days, 16:56, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.42 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: everything is dumping core!
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Jim Bonnet wrote: Net Llama! wrote: Ok, not everything, but everything that I compile immediately dumps core when i attempt to run it. How would i go about troubleshooting this? sounds like a broken library.. Can you run ldd against the app's you have built that segfault and see if there are one or more common libraries that are involved? libm libc ld-linux-so.2 Unfortunately, i haven't upgraded or touched any of those 3 since May. Or.. Have you run a debugger against the programs to see if you can find the actual line of code that is causing the fault? Maybe its a lib call and you can pinpoint the lib that way. I don't even have gdb installed on this box..ugh. If i do install it, what syntax would i use? Something like gdb binary? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: everything is dumping core!
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, David A. Bandel wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:40:02 -0500 (EST)
begin Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:
Ok, not everything, but everything that I compile immediately dumps core
when i attempt to run it. How would i go about troubleshooting this?
start w/ a strace. Sounds like a library is hosed. Should show up in
strace. Post to the list the last 20 lines or so.
strace programname
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1, O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3,
\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\220\16..., 1024) = 1024
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=21298, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL,
20196, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x406bd000
mprotect(0x406c1000, 3812, PROT_NONE) = 0 old_mmap(0x406c1000, 4096,
PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x3000) = 0x406c1000
close(3) = 0 open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3,
\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\300(\0..., 1024) = 1024
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=63864, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL,
4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x406c2000
old_mmap(NULL, 54844, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x406c3000
mprotect(0x406cf000, 5692, PROT_NONE) = 0 old_mmap(0x406cf000, 8192,
PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0xb000) = 0x406cf000
close(3) = 0 open(/usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3,
\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\220d\0..., 1024) = 1024
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=320153, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL,
290152, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x406d1000
mprotect(0x40715000, 11624, PROT_NONE) = 0 old_mmap(0x40715000, 12288,
PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x44000) = 0x40715000
close(3) = 0 munmap(0x40018000, 61132) = 0 getrlimit(0x3, 0xb764)
= 0 setrlimit(RLIMIT_STACK, {rlim_cur=2044*1024, rlim_max=RLIM_INFINITY})
= 0 getpid() = 10387 uname({sys=Linux,
node=netllama.hdqt.vasoftware.com, ...}) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGRTMIN,
{0x403e8470, [], 0x400}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGRT_1,
{0x403e75f0, [], 0x400}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGRT_2,
{0x403e8500, [], 0x400}, NULL, 8) = 0 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault)
---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++
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[ot] Re: computer literacy == english illiteracy?
M$ said: click your way. click here, there, and there. now... take off your cloth, babe. that's your name. :) agree. if these guys had gone through the days of DOS, I believe they would be better users. I suspected that some users didn't even know how to spell their name in english alphabets. :) I'm sure I don't know how to spell my name in ideograms, :-) -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: everything is dumping core!
libm libc ld-linux-so.2 Unfortunately, i haven't upgraded or touched any of those 3 since May. Gotcha, wonder if you could sum -r those libs and compare to the originals? Or.. Have you run a debugger against the programs to see if you can find the actual line of code that is causing the fault? Maybe its a lib call and you can pinpoint the lib that way. I don't even have gdb installed on this box..ugh. If i do install it, what syntax would i use? Something like gdb binary? exactly, although you should compile with -g so you get some symbols to debug against, and install ddd so you can get something done right away, VS learning C debugging from the command line.. ouch. I guess the rest of your machine is running just fine? because as was previously noted.. RAM is a factor in segfault.. Jim Bonnet ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 09:04:17AM +0800, m.w.chang wrote: I am sorry, at this stage, I prefer to learn the programming and coding that *created* security. I don't learn security because of security, general. :) When I could control security by proper programming and coding, I got secuity automagically. Wrong! Security is more a state of mind, and a way of doing things than software. It's very hard to break bad habits, not to mention that it's easy enough to trash a system accidentally when running as root. Many of the fundamental flaws in Microsoft's ``systems'' are the result of people who don't understand or think about security. DOS and Windows prior to NT/2000/SP have _NO_ security because they're built on what was essentially a hobbyists BDPL (Brain Damaged Program Loader) designed for a single user operating in isolation, not on a network. WinNT/2K/XP have the potential to be more secure, but Microsoft's whole strategy of making things easy for the ignorant and lazy, and their general lack of knowledge in building secure systems has resulted in systems that average multiple major security holes found every month. Security is more than anticipating cracking attempts, and includes protecting against accidental damage ranging from normal fumble-fingering to disk failures without proper verified backups. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe and not make messes in the house. -- Lazarus Long, Time Enough for Love ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DVD/CD RW and Linux
Keith Antoine wrote: On Wednesday 20 November 2002 01:15 am, Jim Bonnet espoused: There is a -X option for hdparm as well, although in my case all I did was the -d1 option. Using -X actually slowed things down abit. You will need to set -d1 at every boot. NOT, if you call it from /etc/rc.d/rc.local (insert it with an editor at the end of the script). It will start at boot time automagically. oh agreed for sure, but your fix is vendor specific.. the original poster should decide the correct place depending on their distro.. i should have been more clear.. the correct place is /etc/sysconfig/hardware on my box... jim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:35:14 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, m.w.chang wrote: again, not when I am new to linux. do you know how intimidating for a newbie when they see doors and doors of obstacles to setup a simple home server behind a hardware firewall+router? Most newbies are not ready for the hussles at the *Very* beginning. Then they should stick with M$ products. Linux doesn't have training wheels. I disagree. Linux comes with a lot of training wheels - otherwise everyone would still be running Slackware (not that that's a bad idea in itself, but it would scare off a lot of Newbies). One interesting alternative is the distros like Redhat and Mandrake that come with some (RH has three levels) level of security automatically installed. I haven't found the time to really check it out, but my medium security choice comes up with ipchains rules enabled. Granted, these rules may be inadequate, but at least that's a start. I have to agree that most Newbies have some learning to do just navigating the system and that security can come a little (but not much) later. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area Redhat 7.3 system ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 08:51:15PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 09:02:34AM +0800, m.w.chang wrote: now you said it: DOS is ... an educational ... toy. I want one for linux. I told you how: # chmod -R 666 / This creates a wide open filesystem where any user can do anything. When it breaks, and it *will* most assuredly break, you get to clean it up all by yourself. Safeguards are built for a reason. Actually I think you want ``chmod -R 777 /'' as the Number of the Beast won't make anything executable, or directories searchable for anybody but root. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``People from East Germany have found the West so confusing. It's so much easier when you have only one party.'' -- Linus Torvalde, Linux Expo Canada when asked about confusion over many Linux distributions. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
Which Is true Lonni ... Only trying to make a point on where to start ..along with some simple rules to help the un-initiated. 'Sides ( ;- ) I dunno nuthin' 'bout xinetd ... Net Llama! wrote: On 11/19/02 15:38, Ben Duncan wrote: Some VERY Simple rules. Turn off ALL network Services not needed to run the system (this is done in the inetd.conf file). Cancel, trash or otherwise do away with daemon That's not entirely true. In fact, its completely untrue on some systems. Only inetd services are controlled in via inetd. And on more recent systems, its controlled via xinetd, not inetd. -- Ben Duncan Phone (601)-355-2574 Fax (601)-355-2573 Cell (601)-946-1220 Business Network Solutions 336 Elton Road Jackson MS, 39212 Software is like Sex, it is better when it's free - Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DVD/CD RW and Linux
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 01:15 am, Jim Bonnet espoused: There is a -X option for hdparm as well, although in my case all I did was the -d1 option. Using -X actually slowed things down abit. You will need to set -d1 at every boot. NOT, if you call it from /etc/rc.d/rc.local (insert it with an editor at the end of the script). It will start at boot time automagically. Best regards- Jim Bonnet ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: vi error !! ??
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 05:36:29AM -0800, Ken Moffat wrote: When I edit a file using vi in a terminal, I get the following error on quitting: viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: ??u^P~KE^X? viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: j viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: ,?p^P~KD^@ viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: ,?p^TW?~I??^G viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: ~C??~K@,?p^T?4???~I?~K^B~KM^L~IA^D^O?B^D f~IA^H?^A viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: ??^L~Mv Hit ENTER or type command to continue Anyone have any idea what the ? this means Suggest deleting $HOME/.viminfo. Kurt -- Q: How many Martians does it take to screw in a lightbulb? A: One and a half. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 09:06:34AM +0800, m.w.chang wrote: agree. if these guys had gone through the days of DOS, I believe they would be better users. I suspected that some users didn't even know how to spell their name in english alphabets. :) I'm sure I don't know how to spell my name in ideograms, :-) Kurt -- Hartley's First Law: You can lead a horse to water, but if you can get him to float on his back, you've got something. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 09:02:34AM +0800, m.w.chang wrote: now you said it: DOS is ... an educational ... toy. I want one for linux. I told you how: # chmod -R 666 / This creates a wide open filesystem where any user can do anything. When it breaks, and it *will* most assuredly break, you get to clean it up all by yourself. Safeguards are built for a reason. [...] Kurt -- A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming is not worth knowing. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sco linux 4.0 released today
did the SCO guys assassinate all the orignial Caldera staff on the day of her public listing? :) Net Llama! wrote: Some things never change at SCOdera. hmm.. no frontpage news in http://www.sco.com :) http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=287 -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
Slackware got basic secuirty system, too. I want to turn off the master-arm switch. :) I disagree. Linux comes with a lot of training wheels - otherwise everyone would still be running Slackware (not that that's a bad idea in itself, but it would scare off a lot of Newbies). that's just the firewall. I can live with a properly set-up firewall. One interesting alternative is the distros like Redhat and Mandrake that come with some (RH has three levels) level of security automatically installed. I haven't found the time to really check it out, but my medium security choice comes up with ipchains rules enabled. Granted, these rules may be inadequate, but at least that's a start. I don't disagree if not reject the whole security thing. I have to agree that most Newbies have some learning to do just navigating the system and that security can come a little (but not much) later. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
many thanks. hmm.. will try it.. so the a group attributes can totallly disarm the beast? hmm...how about owner and group names? Certain daemons insist on comparing names (ie, gid and uid). now you said it: DOS is ... an educational ... toy. I want one for linux. I told you how: # chmod -R 666 / Actually I think you want ``chmod -R 777 /'' as the Number of the Beast won't make anything executable, or directories searchable for anybody but root. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sco linux 4.0 released today
Some things never change at SCOdera. On 11/19/02 15:12, m.w.chang wrote: hmm.. no frontpage news in http://www.sco.com :) dep wrote: http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=287 -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:35pm up 38 days, 8:50, 3 users, load average: 0.33, 0.12, 0.04 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: everything is dumping core!
On 11/19/02 17:40, Jim Bonnet wrote: libm libc ld-linux-so.2 Unfortunately, i haven't upgraded or touched any of those 3 since May. Gotcha, wonder if you could sum -r those libs and compare to the originals? Or.. Have you run a debugger against the programs to see if you can find the actual line of code that is causing the fault? Maybe its a lib call and you can pinpoint the lib that way. I don't even have gdb installed on this box..ugh. If i do install it, what syntax would i use? Something like gdb binary? exactly, although you should compile with -g so you get some symbols to debug against, and install ddd so you can get something done right away, VS learning C debugging from the command line.. ouch. I guess the rest of your machine is running just fine? because as was previously noted.. RAM is a factor in segfault.. That's the weird thing though. The compiles go just fine. Its just the resulting binaries that bomb out. Even more strange is that I compiled the latest XFCE yesterday, and it continues to run just fine. It seems like some things just don't work, yet others do. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:30pm up 38 days, 8:45, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2fs and security settings
m.w.chang wrote: sir, I want the house, not the lock. I beg your pardon. Too bad. Get over it. Nobody wants a house without locks, everyone has the same concerns. Remove yours, sell them, do whatever, just don't expect many people to view it as either logical or reasonable. Will you put your money in my bank? I have no locks, everyone can walk through the vault, you get your own money from the cash drawer, and the only customers I have are honest, so I don't need security. Right? Makes sense doesn't it? sigh I am/was not looking for a job on linux security. Big deal. I'm not looking for a job as a webmaster either, but if I'm running Apache on a server I'd better know something about html, cgi, perl, etc, because there's only going to be one idiot to blame if I don't. I don't consider it a poor model just because I have to increase my intelligence and experience level. So it doesn't absolve your responsibility for learning it, since it's an integral part. You can't just pick and choose the only things that you want to learn, and try to discredit the rest, at least until you build your own distro. -- Andrew Mathews --- 7:30pm up 8:04, 7 users, load average: 1.80, 1.73, 1.43 --- What the large print giveth, the small print taketh away. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DVD/CD RW and Linux
Jim Bonnet wrote: oh agreed for sure, but your fix is vendor specific.. the original poster should decide the correct place depending on their distro.. i should have been more clear.. the correct place is /etc/sysconfig/hardware on my box... For current Debian the file to edit is /etc/init.d/hwtools -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.7 Debian Linux System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: vi error !! ??
Suggest deleting $HOME/.viminfo. Thanks, Jim and Kurt, this fixed it. Strange problem. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sco linux 4.0 released today
Check again... begin Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:37:58 -0800) Some things never change at SCOdera. On 11/19/02 15:12, m.w.chang wrote: hmm.. no frontpage news in http://www.sco.com :) dep wrote: http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=287 -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:35pm up 38 days, 8:50, 3 users, load average: 0.33, 0.12, 0.04 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
