Re: OT earthquake!

2002-11-29 Thread ronnie gauthier
Skiing is unfortunatly one of those sports that can have a high entry
fee. Especially now that equipment has changed so drasticly the last
few years. Combine that with a season pass or daily lift tickets and
its expensive. I'm sorta lucky. I get my equipment on pro or shop forms
and dont pay for tickets. There is a trade off, I have to interrupt my
skiing to haul idiots off the hill in a rescue sled. But it does allow
me to ski 100+ days each winter :-)

Just for fun I pulled out my calculator and did some rough figuring.
Not counting my childhood, which I skijumped and did it every night and
Sat/Sun all winter from 10-17yrs old. This is just my adult years.
17 full time seasons of 100 days minimum
1700/365=4.65 years on skis and that is conservative because most
seasons lasted about 110-130 days and I only take 6-10 days off each
winter.
Now to figure out how much time I spent trout fishing...


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Re: Re: OT earthquake!

More like 4 hrs from here. Never have skied it. Hiked it in the
fall recently.

Used to ski quite a bit (more than my ma and my wife could
tolerate), now it's about twice a year. Guess I used it all up
when I was younger.

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Re: preferred routing daemon for linux

2002-11-29 Thread Keith Morse
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 01:23:08PM -0800, Keith Morse wrote:
  
  Just out of curiousity, what's the preferred flavour.  Routed?
 
 Daemon-wise, routed is the only one I've ever heard of, which certainly
 isn't to say it's the only one. Most people seem to use the offerings
 from the Linux Router Project (http://www.linuxrouter.org/).
 
 Kurt


Thanks Kurt, I thought there was a newer one out there, moreso than routed 
or gated.  More digging to do.



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Re: this is pretty cool

2002-11-29 Thread Keith Morse
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Net Llama! wrote:

 On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Tim Wunder wrote:
  On 11/27/2002 9:39 AM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote:
   ...i'm not in the picture...
 
  Yeah, you'll have to find that here:
  http://www.linux-sxs.org/bio/lonni_friedman_bio.html
 
  :-)
 
 Hey, at least i don't have a blond mane, hawaiian shirt,  short shorts
 on.  every day of the year.  with a fine coating of dandruff on my
 shoulders at all times.  and BO strong enough to kill a muskox.
 
 oh, wait, did i say that outloud?


And it sounds like you're making good use of your college degree.

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Re: this is pretty cool

2002-11-29 Thread Keith Morse
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Kurt Wall wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 02:43:39PM -0500, dep wrote:
 
 [Rick Moen flamage]
 
  jeeezus. sorry i brought it up. i like the guy.
 
 ROFLMAO!
 
 Kurt


Ya know, after spending the last two weeks neck deep in VOIP [1], vpn's, 
firewall rulesets, and wireless crap it's really nice to catch up on this 
list and be seriously entertained.  Though, I rate it a snicker or 
chuckle, but not LMAO.

And whatever you do, don't subscribe to the isp-wireless list.  That thing 
generates something like +80K messages a year.


[1] Which would have gone a lot smoother if I knew the first freakin' 
thing about Nortel PBXes.  A particular orifice is still puckering over 
that one.

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Re: rm is picky

2002-11-29 Thread Keith Morse
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 04:19:51AM -0600, ronnie gauthier wrote:
  here is a good reason why rm is picky about what it will do and why you
  should leave it that way.
 
 [NiNe HoUrS (c) (1998 Ric Moore)]
  
  rm: '/' is a directory
  
  well knock me out.
 
 Oops.
 
 Kurt


Lucky boy, third time I've replied to a post of yours tonight.  Speaking 
of Ric, I tried an internet search for him awhile ago and all I came up 
with was a recently deceased race car driver whose father is sueing the 
sanctioning body for negligence.  I wonder if Ric is still at Redhat?

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Re: this is pretty cool

2002-11-29 Thread David A. Bandel
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begin  Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Kurt Wall wrote:
 
  On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 02:43:39PM -0500, dep wrote:
  
  [Rick Moen flamage]
  
   jeeezus. sorry i brought it up. i like the guy.
  
  ROFLMAO!
  
  Kurt
 
 
 Ya know, after spending the last two weeks neck deep in VOIP [1], vpn's,
 
 firewall rulesets, and wireless crap it's really nice to catch up on
 this list and be seriously entertained.  Though, I rate it a snicker or 
 chuckle, but not LMAO.
 
 And whatever you do, don't subscribe to the isp-wireless list.  That
 thing generates something like +80K messages a year.

Kurt, 

You can always ask here about wireless.  I have a pretty good size
wireless network (and expanding) here in Panama.  802.11b (not 802.11a),
but the principles are the same.

In fact, everything you mention above I do almost daily (VoIP, VPN --
freeswan, others -- firewalls).  I keep things simple.

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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Re: RH 8.0 and XFS (font server)

2002-11-29 Thread Tim Wunder
Just checked and didn't find anything regarding xfs other than ttmkfdir can't 
cope with bad ttf fonts, 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=77272. 
I'll file a bug once I can find a scenario that causes it 100% of the time. So 
far, it's too intermittent for me to be able to file a reasonable bug report.

Regards, 
Tim

On Thursday 28 November 2002 10:56 am, someone claiming to be Net Llama! 
wrote:
 Have you checked Redhat's bugzilla to see if this is a known issue?  If
 its not, you should report it.

 On 11/28/02 05:16, Tim Wunder wrote:
  Using RH8... every once in a while, after logging out, xfs dies on me,
  causing X not to load. I have to manually start xfs with 'xfs -daemon' to
  get X to work again. Any recomendations on how to fix this?
 
  Thanks,
  Tim

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Re: Get Rid of that Ugly Background

2002-11-29 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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uh.. why not just 'xsetroot -solid black' as one of the first things in 
.xinitrc?
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Re: Red Hat 7.3

2002-11-29 Thread C M Reinehr
zohar wrote:

 I want to install Red Hat 7.3 on my HDD which has Suse Linux 7.1
 RH 7.3 is given in CDs of the book Red Hat Linux 7.3 Bible by Christopher
 Negus.
 
 For Partitioning it gives me option of
 (1)Remove all Linux Partitions on this system
 (2)Remove all partitions on this system
 (3)Keep all partitions and use existing free space.
 
 Now before when I installed Suse, I put 7 GB for linux from 20 GB of my
 HDD, so how should I proceed.

That depends on what you want to do. Would you like to keep Suse and 
dual-boot both Suse  RedHat, or do you want to replace Suse with RedHat? 
Do you have any future need for the remaining free space?

 Also I installed Suse but it did not allow me to increase the swap space
 from 150Mb or so while I need 512MB as I have 256MB memory. Please tell me
 solution for this also.

For the answer to this  many more interesting questions, please refer to 
the Linux Partition How-To.

 Also I have winmodem(HCF 56K PCI), so which driver should I download for
 using it in linux partition.

For the answer to this  many more interesting questions, please refer to 
the Linmodem How-To.

 Please reply ASAP.
 
 Zohar

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Re: this is pretty cool

2002-11-29 Thread kbb0927
David,

What distro do you use?  I have trouble getting suse8.1 and RH8 to
work on my laptop. Suse will at least give me a wlan0, but RH8 won't.
The card is a prism2-based pcmcia (WPC11). I have gotten it once to 
fire but then it stalls and can only ping itself. I must be missing\
something obvious. What cards do you use?  What cards do you recommend?
Are you using any usb wireless?

Thanks in advance,

Keith B.

David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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begin  Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Kurt Wall wrote:
 
  On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 02:43:39PM -0500, dep wrote:
  
  [Rick Moen flamage]
  
   jeeezus. sorry i brought it up. i like the guy.
  
  ROFLMAO!
  
  Kurt
 
 
 Ya know, after spending the last two weeks neck deep in VOIP [1], vpn's,
 
 firewall rulesets, and wireless crap it's really nice to catch up on
 this list and be seriously entertained.  Though, I rate it a snicker or 
 chuckle, but not LMAO.
 
 And whatever you do, don't subscribe to the isp-wireless list.  That
 thing generates something like +80K messages a year.

Kurt, 

You can always ask here about wireless.  I have a pretty good size
wireless network (and expanding) here in Panama.  802.11b (not 802.11a),
but the principles are the same.

In fact, everything you mention above I do almost daily (VoIP, VPN --
freeswan, others -- firewalls).  I keep things simple.

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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Re: this is pretty cool

2002-11-29 Thread Keith Morse
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 David,
 
 What distro do you use?  I have trouble getting suse8.1 and RH8 to
 work on my laptop. Suse will at least give me a wlan0, but RH8 won't.
 The card is a prism2-based pcmcia (WPC11). I have gotten it once to 
 fire but then it stalls and can only ping itself. I must be missing\
 something obvious. What cards do you use?  What cards do you recommend?
 Are you using any usb wireless?
 


Don't mean to steal any of David's thunder.  It's my understanding that 
the prism2 stuff is not yet incorporated into the kernel pcmcia code yet 
and as such you'll need to use the wlan-ng software.  Take a look at:

http://www.linux-wlan.com/linux-wlan/

I haven't used any of these chipsets but expect to soon.


AFAIK, usb wireless hasn't made it to linux yet.  Would be handy though, 
eh?



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Re: this is pretty cool

2002-11-29 Thread Keith Morse
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, David A. Bandel wrote:

 
 You can always ask here about wireless.  I have a pretty good size
 wireless network (and expanding) here in Panama.  802.11b (not 802.11a),
 but the principles are the same.
 
 In fact, everything you mention above I do almost daily (VoIP, VPN --
 freeswan, others -- firewalls).  I keep things simple.


Just out of curiousity, you had mentioned awhile ago about doing 15 mile 
link and was wondering how that went?  Also are you using linux for ap's?

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Re: preferred routing daemon for linux

2002-11-29 Thread Keith Morse
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, David A. Bandel wrote:

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 On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:23:08 -0800 (PST)
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  Just out of curiousity, what's the preferred flavour.  Routed?
 
 might want to check our zebra

Aye, thanks David.

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Re: this is pretty cool

2002-11-29 Thread David A. Bandel
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begin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 David,
 
 What distro do you use?  I have trouble getting suse8.1 and RH8 to
 work on my laptop. Suse will at least give me a wlan0, but RH8 won't.
 The card is a prism2-based pcmcia (WPC11). I have gotten it once to 
 fire but then it stalls and can only ping itself. I must be missing\
 something obvious. What cards do you use?  What cards do you recommend?
 Are you using any usb wireless?

Well, lately mostly I'm using KNOPPIX (which is based on Debian).

I use/prefer Avaya, Orinoco, and WaveLan cards.  I have Avaya APs, Orinoco
RGs, and a mix of PCMCIA cards for clients.  For Windoze clients, best
thing is the USB client, but that won't work w/ Linux, you need a good
PCI-PCMCIA bridge card for a desktop.

All my cards show as eth#, but that's because I use the orinoco w/ hermes
drivers.  If you use other drivers you may get other devices (like wlan0).
 Have you checked for a new eth# device under RH?

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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Wireless Questions (Use to be: this is pretty cool)

2002-11-29 Thread kbb0927
David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Well, lately mostly I'm using KNOPPIX (which is based on Debian).

I use/prefer Avaya, Orinoco, and WaveLan cards.  I have Avaya APs, Orinoco
RGs, and a mix of PCMCIA cards for clients.  For Windoze clients, best
thing is the USB client, but that won't work w/ Linux, you need a good
PCI-PCMCIA bridge card for a desktop.

All my cards show as eth#, but that's because I use the orinoco w/ hermes
drivers.  If you use other drivers you may get other devices (like wlan0).
 Have you checked for a new eth# device under RH?

I have to manually add it each time, so it must not be recognizing it. I'll
look in config under /etc/pcmcia for some, but what are good wavelan cards.
I tried the compaq HNW-100 which is orinoco but it has issues when I try to
activate it under RH8. The laptop is a compaq armada m700, pretty linux
friendly for everything, incl. pcmcia cards, until now with SusE 8.x and
RH 8.

Under RH8 when the card is put in, it tries to override eth0, which is a
built in e100 RJ45 port.

I'll still keep digging around. Maybe I'll bite the bullet and buy the
Orinoco card from Comp USA
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I find this impossible to explain

2002-11-29 Thread RBE
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I have Lycoris and have been using OOo succesfully for a few years (if 
you count 5.2).  Last week, I got the following error and it persists.  
Here is what I did, what I've checked and what errors I get.

I uninstalled and deleted anything to do with OpenOffice from my 
system.  Using the tarball, I recreated the entire thing with the -net 
install in /usr/OpcnOffice.org1.0.1.  I deleted jre first (in case that 
was the problem) and now have jre 1.3.0, which is older and not 
compatible with OOo.  I also investigated the problem and can now be 
more specific.  (Please don't suggest I get a compatible jre, as I had 
it and still had all the problems listed below).

1.  Changing default fonts does absolutely nothing (except change the 
default fonts).
2. In the Help Files, the index portion (left side) is perfect.  On the 
right side (the actual help files), I get Headings, Icons and 
Hyperlinks.  The Hyperlinks show up as underlines (no names or other 
indication of what they might link to).  There is NO text -- none, nada.
3. Everything else works like it used to.
4. No other program is affected by this.
5. The following odd problem occurs from time to time -- always as four 
of these. 

SIOCGIFADDR got '00:00:00:00:00:00'
SIOCGIFADDR got '00:00:00:00:00:00'
SIOCGIFADDR got '00:00:00:00:00:00'
SIOCGIFADDR got '00:00:00:00:00:00'

I note ADDR which I assume refers to an address, and GIF which may 
mean a .gif file, but have no idea what SIOC means.  Apparently I 
have a failure in the address of a .gif file.  The .gif files are in:
/usr/OpenOffice.org1.0.1/share/gallery/rulers
and appear okay.

6: I also get the occasional error:

kioslave : ###SEG FAULT#

7.  Keep in mind that I have been running 1.0.1 since it came out with 
no problems until this past week when my help files decided to become 
unusable.

So far the help offered amounts to: a) did you set your fonts up 
correctly? -- ans: yes, b) can you change fonts and make it work? -- 
ans: no, c) how terrible that you had OOo set up under /root -- this 
will never work -- ans: But it did for nearly a year, still, a change 
to /usr made no change, and d) do a full reinstall -- ans: okay, still 
no change and (oh, yeah) e) did you set up user in the right place? -- 
ans: yes, in {HOMEDIR}/OpenOffice.org1.01, where it's been working fine 
for the past year.

Is there an environment variable that might help?  Or, better yet, does 
anyone know what might cause the errors listed in 5. and 6.?

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Re: ext2fs and security settings

2002-11-29 Thread Bob Hemus
If it's not the authorities it's the local webmaster.  A couple of
months ago I was screwing around (again) and had my COL broken so was
using M$ Outlook on a laptop with no protection.  My man called me and
very nicely gave me  and told me not to use my Windoze anymore and
get my Linux fixed.  I had screwed up some gal's business in one of the
Carolinas. She was overloaded with e-mail messages from my box.
Bob

Myles Green wrote:

 
 Look at it this way - if YOU don't have to be bothered with security
 measures etc., then what chance do you have of keeping someone from
 taking over your box(en) and using it/them to attack other systems.
 THis is a Bad Thing (tm) as the authorities then come gunning for YOU
 not 'them'.
 
 but hey! they're your boxes...
 
 Myles

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Re: OT earthquake!

2002-11-29 Thread Bob Hemus
Jeez, all you kids!  Did I tell you about the tehatchapi (SP?) quake in
'50 or '51?  Felt it in Laguna Beach.
Bob


Net Llama! wrote:
 
 On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Tony Alfrey wrote:
  On Sunday 24 November 2002 08:32 pm, Ken Moffat wrote:
   Net Llama! wrote:
Woo-hoo.  There was just a 3.8 quake centered 4 miles from where i
live. Felt like a good horizontal jolt for about 4 seconds.
  
   whoa.. had one near Seattle a couple of years ago, pretty
   stimulating, aren't they?
 
  Hey ama dude, I can tell you're not a California native.
 
 No denying that.  Born  raised in NYC.
 
  First of all, a 3.8 quake doesn't even wake up the natives.
 
 Actually, it seems that what i felt last night (at about 8PM PST) was an
 aftershock of a quake that occured very early yesterday morning.  I did
 sleep through that one  :)
 
  Second of all, I didn't feel it and I'm just across the bay from you
  (but then again, I'm a native.  QED).
 
 Yea, but what are the odds of you feeling a 3.8 across the bay?
 
  Third of all, I think that what you felt was just the price of the LNUX
  falling through the floor.  (sorry, I couldn't resist).
 
 :P
 Actually LNUX has been up 40% in the past 2 weeks.
 
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netmask question

2002-11-29 Thread Joel Hammer
BACKGROUND:
I am on comcast, and get dynamically assigned ip numbers now.
This is a pain, since, as far as I can tell, comcast is not using a standard
dhcpd server, and they don't support third party software.
My dhcpcd client can't tell when the ip number is changed, so, I run a
script whenever my connection gets bad, and so far this has been working.
However, I have to fool around with the firewall rules, too.
I want to automate this process, so

dhcpcd returns the information from the server whenever it runs. Here is my
current information:

IPADDR=68.33.8.46
NETMASK=255.255.252.0 
NETWORK=68.33.8.0
BROADCAST=68.33.11.255
GATEWAY=68.33.8.1
HOSTNAME=
DOMAIN=towson01.md.comcast.net
DNS=68.34.76.6
DHCPSIADDR=172.30.10.34
DHCPSHADDR=00:02:FC:80:E0:A8
DHCPSNAME=
LEASETIME=604800
RENEWALTIME=302400
REBINDTIME=529200

I just insert this in as a dot file and let my scripts run. Works fine.

When the firewall is built, with ipchains-restore, I get this ip/mask
pair in the firewall (as shown by ipchains -L -n) for my local ip name
and it works:

68.33.8.46/255.255.252.0

However, when I run ipchains-save, the ip/netmask pair becomes:

68.33.8.0/255.255.252.0

This doesn't look so hot. That is, my computer ip doesn't seem so unique all
of a sudden. What am I missing? Is this a bug in ipchains-save?

Thanks,
Joel





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Re: netmask question

2002-11-29 Thread Joel Hammer
Opps. One mistake in the note below.

It looks like when I run ipchains-restore against a rule like this:

-A input -s 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 -d 68.33.8.46/255.255.252.0 6346:6346 -i eth1 -p 6 -y -m 5 

The rule as listed by ipchains -L -n is:

target prot opt sourcedestination   ports
-  tcp  -y  0.0.0.0/0 68.33.8.0/22  * -   6699  

So, part of my ip number is missing, too, in the firewall.

I guess I don't understand netmasks, but, why, if the end of the number is
being chopped off due to the netmask, do they assign this number (68.33.8.46) ?

Joel

On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 07:38:55PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
 BACKGROUND:
 I am on comcast, and get dynamically assigned ip numbers now.
 This is a pain, since, as far as I can tell, comcast is not using a standard
 dhcpd server, and they don't support third party software.
 My dhcpcd client can't tell when the ip number is changed, so, I run a
 script whenever my connection gets bad, and so far this has been working.
 However, I have to fool around with the firewall rules, too.
 I want to automate this process, so
 
 dhcpcd returns the information from the server whenever it runs. Here is my
 current information:
 
 IPADDR=68.33.8.46
 NETMASK=255.255.252.0 
 NETWORK=68.33.8.0
 BROADCAST=68.33.11.255
 GATEWAY=68.33.8.1
 HOSTNAME=
 DOMAIN=towson01.md.comcast.net
 DNS=68.34.76.6
 DHCPSIADDR=172.30.10.34
 DHCPSHADDR=00:02:FC:80:E0:A8
 DHCPSNAME=
 LEASETIME=604800
 RENEWALTIME=302400
 REBINDTIME=529200
 
 I just insert this in as a dot file and let my scripts run. Works fine.
 
 When the firewall is built, with ipchains-restore, I get this ip/mask
 pair in the firewall (as shown by ipchains -L -n) for my local ip name
 and it works:
 
 68.33.8.46/255.255.252.0
 
 However, when I run ipchains-save, the ip/netmask pair becomes:
 
 68.33.8.0/255.255.252.0
 
 This doesn't look so hot. That is, my computer ip doesn't seem so unique all
 of a sudden. What am I missing? Is this a bug in ipchains-save?
 
 Thanks,
 Joel
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Wireless Questions (Use to be: this is pretty cool)

2002-11-29 Thread Net Llama!
On 11/29/02 12:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip

Well, lately mostly I'm using KNOPPIX (which is based on Debian).

I use/prefer Avaya, Orinoco, and WaveLan cards.  I have Avaya APs, Orinoco
RGs, and a mix of PCMCIA cards for clients.  For Windoze clients, best
thing is the USB client, but that won't work w/ Linux, you need a good
PCI-PCMCIA bridge card for a desktop.

All my cards show as eth#, but that's because I use the orinoco w/ hermes
drivers.  If you use other drivers you may get other devices (like wlan0).
Have you checked for a new eth# device under RH?


I have to manually add it each time, so it must not be recognizing it. I'll
look in config under /etc/pcmcia for some, but what are good wavelan cards.
I tried the compaq HNW-100 which is orinoco but it has issues when I try to
activate it under RH8. The laptop is a compaq armada m700, pretty linux
friendly for everything, incl. pcmcia cards, until now with SusE 8.x and
RH 8.

Under RH8 when the card is put in, it tries to override eth0, which is a
built in e100 RJ45 port.


Try adding an alias in modules.conf for the wifi card for a different 
interface than eth0?

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Re: I find this impossible to explain

2002-11-29 Thread Net Llama!


On 11/29/02 14:34, RBE wrote:

I have Lycoris and have been using OOo succesfully for a few years (if 
you count 5.2).  Last week, I got the following error and it persists.  
Here is what I did, what I've checked and what errors I get.

I uninstalled and deleted anything to do with OpenOffice from my 
system.  Using the tarball, I recreated the entire thing with the -net 
install in /usr/OpcnOffice.org1.0.1.  I deleted jre first (in case that 
was the problem) and now have jre 1.3.0, which is older and not 
compatible with OOo.  I also investigated the problem and can now be 
more specific.  (Please don't suggest I get a compatible jre, as I had 
it and still had all the problems listed below).

I'll start out by saying that this has nothing at all to do with JRE. 
JRE is _not_ required for OpenOffice.


1.  Changing default fonts does absolutely nothing (except change the 
default fonts).
2. In the Help Files, the index portion (left side) is perfect.  On the 
right side (the actual help files), I get Headings, Icons and 
Hyperlinks.  The Hyperlinks show up as underlines (no names or other 
indication of what they might link to).  There is NO text -- none, nada.
3. Everything else works like it used to.
4. No other program is affected by this.
5. The following odd problem occurs from time to time -- always as four 
of these. 

SIOCGIFADDR got '00:00:00:00:00:00'
SIOCGIFADDR got '00:00:00:00:00:00'
SIOCGIFADDR got '00:00:00:00:00:00'
SIOCGIFADDR got '00:00:00:00:00:00'

I note ADDR which I assume refers to an address, and GIF which may 
mean a .gif file, but have no idea what SIOC means.  Apparently I 
have a failure in the address of a .gif file.  The .gif files are in:
/usr/OpenOffice.org1.0.1/share/gallery/rulers
and appear okay.

Here's the answer:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=lang_enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8threadm=eea7296.2%40WebX.XaoCaiYUae5rnum=3prev=/groups%3Fas_epq%3DSIOCGIFADDR%2520got%2520%2700%253A00%253A00%253A00%253A00%253A00%27%26safe%3Dimages%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26lr%3Dlang_en%26hl%3Den



6: I also get the occasional error:

kioslave : ###SEG FAULT#


I think that's a KDE error.  *shrug*


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Re: netmask question

2002-11-29 Thread Jerry McBride

You asked a lot, so I sprinkled my comments inside your quoted message.

On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 19:38:55 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BACKGROUND:
 I am on comcast, and get dynamically assigned ip numbers now.

Yup, straight DHCP.

 This is a pain, since, as far as I can tell, comcast is not using a standard
 dhcpd server, and they don't support third party software.

My home network is on comcast.net in New Jersey. Currently my home server runs
OpenLinux 3.1.1. I use all the Caldera provided utilities with the ONLY
modification being security upgrades. It works PERFECTLY.

 My dhcpcd client can't tell when the ip number is changed...

That's an inherent part of DHCP.

so, I run a
 script whenever my connection gets bad, and so far this has been working.


If dhclient isn't picking up the new address, you've got something set up wrong.
Review your setup.

 However, I have to fool around with the firewall rules, too.
 

How about adding this to your firewall script?


# your IP address
IPADDR=`ifconfig | grep -A 4 eth0 | awk '/inet/ { print $2 } ' | sed -e
s/addr://` 
echo   using this IP address from DHCLIENT --$IPADDR--




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RED HAT

2002-11-29 Thread zohar
I want to install Red Hat 7.3 on my HDD which has Suse Linux 7.1.

 RH 7.3 is given in CDs of the book Red Hat Linux 7.3 Bible by Christopher
 Negus.

 For Partitioning it gives me option of
 (1)Remove all Linux Partitions on this system
 (2)Remove all partitions on this system
 (3)Keep all partitions and use existing free space.

 Now before when I installed Suse, I put 7 GB for linux from 20 GB of my
HDD,
 so how should I proceed.

 Also I installed Suse but it did not allow me to increase the swap space
 from 150Mb or so while I need 512MB as I have 256MB memory. Please tell me
 solution for this also.

 Also I have winmodem(HCF 56K PCI), so which driver should I download for
 using it in linux partition.

 Also any other precautions OR considerations.

 Please reply ASAP.

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Wireless Questions (Use to be: this is pretty cool) - Partiallysolved

2002-11-29 Thread kbb0927
I went under SuSE 8.1 and removed the eth0 for the e100 and recreated it
for the wifi using the compaq and I got access!!. I am surfing the web
using it right now. I keep losing the access point mac getting some 
unknown mac. I moved the WAP away from the switchbox and it has stayed
with the right mac for the WAP so far.  I have not rebooted RH8 to test
it. Just happy to be able to finally have wireless under SuSE 8.1!!

Best regards,

Keith B.

Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 11/29/02 12:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 snip
Well, lately mostly I'm using KNOPPIX (which is based on Debian).

I use/prefer Avaya, Orinoco, and WaveLan cards.  I have Avaya APs, Orinoco
RGs, and a mix of PCMCIA cards for clients.  For Windoze clients, best
thing is the USB client, but that won't work w/ Linux, you need a good
PCI-PCMCIA bridge card for a desktop.

All my cards show as eth#, but that's because I use the orinoco w/ hermes
drivers.  If you use other drivers you may get other devices (like wlan0).
 Have you checked for a new eth# device under RH?
 
 I have to manually add it each time, so it must not be recognizing it. I'll
 look in config under /etc/pcmcia for some, but what are good wavelan cards.
 I tried the compaq HNW-100 which is orinoco but it has issues when I try to
 activate it under RH8. The laptop is a compaq armada m700, pretty linux
 friendly for everything, incl. pcmcia cards, until now with SusE 8.x and
 RH 8.
 
 Under RH8 when the card is put in, it tries to override eth0, which is a
 built in e100 RJ45 port.

Try adding an alias in modules.conf for the wifi card for a different 
interface than eth0?

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Re: netmask question

2002-11-29 Thread Joel Hammer
I guess I put in too much confusing (at least to me) detail.

I think my question was how to interpret ip's with numbers like:
63.11.8.26 and mask of 255.255.252.0
This seems to get interpreted by the firewall as something like:
63.11.8.0/22

So, I don't know why they are issuing such numbers, but, there must be a
good reason. I mean, why not just issue 63.11.8.0 with mask of 255.255.252.0 ?

Any how, I have tried to install dhclient, without success on my caldera 2.4
box with an updated kernel. As I recall, it wouldn't compile or somesuch, so
I am using dhcpcd, which seems to be a weak cousin. Its main problem seems to be that
it isn't talking to the comcast dhcpd server and just exits every now and then.

So, I just run dhcpcd from a script every so often, and it downloads my
current settings, or gets new ones, and I run my scripts from there. I
use the information file which dhcpcd creates in /var/run/dhcpc...info,
to provide data for my scripts, which is very handy. But, I am going to make
another attempt to get dhcpcd to work as advertised. The problem is, it
takes a long time to find out if dhcpcd is working well with the server,
since the leases are about one week in length and who knows, they may be
renewed repeatedly. 

Joel

n Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 08:17:45PM -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:
 
 You asked a lot, so I sprinkled my comments inside your quoted message.
 
 On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 19:38:55 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  BACKGROUND:
  I am on comcast, and get dynamically assigned ip numbers now.
 
 Yup, straight DHCP.
 
  This is a pain, since, as far as I can tell, comcast is not using a standard
  dhcpd server, and they don't support third party software.
 
 My home network is on comcast.net in New Jersey. Currently my home server runs
 OpenLinux 3.1.1. I use all the Caldera provided utilities with the ONLY
 modification being security upgrades. It works PERFECTLY.
 
  My dhcpcd client can't tell when the ip number is changed...
 
 That's an inherent part of DHCP.
 
 so, I run a
  script whenever my connection gets bad, and so far this has been working.
 
 
 If dhclient isn't picking up the new address, you've got something set up wrong.
 Review your setup.
 
  However, I have to fool around with the firewall rules, too.
  
 
 How about adding this to your firewall script?
 
 
 # your IP address
 IPADDR=`ifconfig | grep -A 4 eth0 | awk '/inet/ { print $2 } ' | sed -e
 s/addr://` 
 echo   using this IP address from DHCLIENT --$IPADDR--
 
 
 
 
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Re: netmask question

2002-11-29 Thread David A. Bandel
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On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 19:56:57 -0500
begin  Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 Opps. One mistake in the note below.
 
 It looks like when I run ipchains-restore against a rule like this:
 
 -A input -s 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 -d 68.33.8.46/255.255.252.0 6346:6346 -i
 eth1 -p 6 -y -m 5 
 
 The rule as listed by ipchains -L -n is:
 
 target prot opt sourcedestination  
 ports-  tcp  -y  0.0.0.0/0 68.33.8.0/22 
 * -   6699  
 
 So, part of my ip number is missing, too, in the firewall.
 
 I guess I don't understand netmasks, but, why, if the end of the number
 is being chopped off due to the netmask, do they assign this number
 (68.33.8.46) ?

You are assigned a _unique_ IP address.  No one else in the world has that
number.  The chopped off part is the network address.  The network
address plus the netmask identify the network boundaries.  Your network
runs from:
63.33.8.0 to 63.33.11.255 (the first number is your network address, the
second is the broadcast address).  No matter what IP you have within this
range, the network, netmask, and broadcast addresses remain the same.

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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Re: this is pretty cool

2002-11-29 Thread David A. Bandel
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On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 11:57:21 -0800 (PST)
begin  Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, David A. Bandel wrote:
 
  
  You can always ask here about wireless.  I have a pretty good size
  wireless network (and expanding) here in Panama.  802.11b (not
  802.11a), but the principles are the same.
  
  In fact, everything you mention above I do almost daily (VoIP, VPN --
  freeswan, others -- firewalls).  I keep things simple.
 
 
 Just out of curiousity, you had mentioned awhile ago about doing 15 mile
 
 link and was wondering how that went?  Also are you using linux for
 ap's?

Piece of cake.  Running at 5.5Mb (sometimes 11Mb).  Using 24dbi grid
antenna w/ short (50') LMR-400 cable, you get 4 watts at the antenna
(15dbi from the card, plus 24dbi antenna, minus 3 dbi drop in the cable is
36dbi == 4 watt).  I could probably do better if I could actually see how
well the antenna are aimed at each other.  A little tuning might also
help.  But the link is solid.  I could drop down to 1 or 2 Mbs and go over
30 miles. 

I use AP-3s (aka AP-2000's).  They have their own system.  To connect
out to the Internet I use a Linux box as a router (the APs are bridges).

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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Re: netmask question

2002-11-29 Thread Joel Hammer
Thanks for the explanation.
Joel

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 On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 19:56:57 -0500
 begin  Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:
 
  Opps. One mistake in the note below.
  
  It looks like when I run ipchains-restore against a rule like this:
  
  -A input -s 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 -d 68.33.8.46/255.255.252.0 6346:6346 -i
  eth1 -p 6 -y -m 5 
  
  The rule as listed by ipchains -L -n is:
  
  target prot opt sourcedestination  
  ports-  tcp  -y  0.0.0.0/0 68.33.8.0/22 * -   6699  
  
  So, part of my ip number is missing, too, in the firewall.
  
  I guess I don't understand netmasks, but, why, if the end of the number
  is being chopped off due to the netmask, do they assign this number
  (68.33.8.46) ?
 
 You are assigned a _unique_ IP address.  No one else in the world has that
 number.  The chopped off part is the network address.  The network
 address plus the netmask identify the network boundaries.  Your network
 runs from:
 63.33.8.0 to 63.33.11.255 (the first number is your network address, the
 second is the broadcast address).  No matter what IP you have within this
 range, the network, netmask, and broadcast addresses remain the same.
 
 Ciao,
 
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Re: this is pretty cool

2002-11-29 Thread Keith Morse
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, David A. Bandel wrote:

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 On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 11:57:21 -0800 (PST)
 begin  Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:
 
  Just out of curiousity, you had mentioned awhile ago about doing 15 mile
  
  link and was wondering how that went?  Also are you using linux for
  ap's?
 
 Piece of cake.  Running at 5.5Mb (sometimes 11Mb).  Using 24dbi grid
 antenna w/ short (50') LMR-400 cable, you get 4 watts at the antenna
 (15dbi from the card, plus 24dbi antenna, minus 3 dbi drop in the cable is
 36dbi == 4 watt).  I could probably do better if I could actually see how
 well the antenna are aimed at each other.  A little tuning might also
 help.  But the link is solid.  I could drop down to 1 or 2 Mbs and go over
 30 miles. 
 
 I use AP-3s (aka AP-2000's).  They have their own system.  To connect
 out to the Internet I use a Linux box as a router (the APs are bridges).
 


Neat.  We're providing a limited wireless ISP service to business 
customers only.  Only two pop's so far and using Lucent's COR/ROR for the 
backhaul.  The pop's are only 4 miles apart.  The remote is experiencing 
a lot of noise which has steadily built up over the last two years.  We're 
in the process of moving it now.  Typical CPE is either a linux box with 
pci pcmica card adapter and a orinoco card (my preference) or a Cisco pix 
with an ethernet converter.  The ap's are AP-500's.

I understand about the tuning aspects.  Those grid antennae mounts are not 
what I'd called masters of precision, but they work well enough.



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Re: I find this impossible to explain

2002-11-29 Thread RBE
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On Friday 29 November 2002 6:59 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
 On 11/29/02 14:34, RBE wrote:
  I have Lycoris and have been using OOo succesfully for a few years
  (if you count 5.2).  Last week, I got the following error and it
  persists. Here is what I did, what I've checked and what errors I
  get.
 
  I uninstalled and deleted anything to do with OpenOffice from my
  system.  Using the tarball, I recreated the entire thing with the
  -net install in /usr/OpcnOffice.org1.0.1.  I deleted jre first (in
  case that was the problem) and now have jre 1.3.0, which is older
  and not compatible with OOo.  I also investigated the problem and
  can now be more specific.  (Please don't suggest I get a compatible
  jre, as I had it and still had all the problems listed below).

 I'll start out by saying that this has nothing at all to do with JRE.
 JRE is _not_ required for OpenOffice.

Good point (I've been digging so much, I finally figured out that it 
has nothing to do with it.)  Seems my screwing around with a failed 
install of KDE 3.05 messed up another file.  Ain't it wonderful how 
much you learn by doing something stupid?

  1.  Changing default fonts does absolutely nothing (except change
  the default fonts).
  2. In the Help Files, the index portion (left side) is perfect.  On
  the right side (the actual help files), I get Headings, Icons and
  Hyperlinks.  The Hyperlinks show up as underlines (no names or
  other indication of what they might link to).  There is NO text --
  none, nada. 3. Everything else works like it used to.
  4. No other program is affected by this.
  5. The following odd problem occurs from time to time -- always as
  four of these.
 
  SIOCGIFADDR got '00:00:00:00:00:00'
  SIOCGIFADDR got '00:00:00:00:00:00'
  SIOCGIFADDR got '00:00:00:00:00:00'
  SIOCGIFADDR got '00:00:00:00:00:00'
 
  I note ADDR which I assume refers to an address, and GIF which
  may mean a .gif file, but have no idea what SIOC means. 
  Apparently I have a failure in the address of a .gif file.  The
  .gif files are in: /usr/OpenOffice.org1.0.1/share/gallery/rulers
  and appear okay.

 Here's the answer:
 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=lang_enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8th
readm=eea7296.2%40WebX.XaoCaiYUae5rnum=3prev=/groups%3Fas_epq%3DSIOC
GIFADDR%2520got%2520%2700%253A00%253A00%253A00%253A00%253A00%27%26safe
%3Dimages%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26lr%3Dlang_en%26hl%3Den

Oh, no it isn't.  Keep in mind, my installation was working fine and I 
had done nothing to it (messed around with KDE) when this problem 
started.  This reference is to someone who did not read the 
instructions to do a (as root) -net install followed by a (as user) 
straight install (Workstation, in my case).

The SIOCGIFADDR did not occur until I messed with KDE.  It appears this 
is a system call using ioctl often within ifconfig files.  I'm assuming 
(now) that one or both of the packages containing these files is what 
is messed up, so I will reinstall them (actually, five programs).

  6: I also get the occasional error:
 
  kioslave : ###SEG FAULT#

 I think that's a KDE error.  *shrug*

How dare you shrug at me, Lonni. :).  I think I know where to look it 
up, so I'll try to do a package reinstall and see if it can be fixed.

Thanks, anyway.  If I find out something useful to others, I'll send it 
to the list.

- -- 
Robert Black Eagle
The more I understand, the less I know.
Now I understand so much, I'm clueless.
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