Wrong path in SxS site?

2002-12-10 Thread Pam R
Hi

I've just noticed that the 'Playing Quicktime movies natively in linux' link 
in New and the 'Quicktime' link in Video point to a text file not an html 
one, although the text seems to be html.

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Re: Mail Program

2002-12-10 Thread David A. Bandel
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What I principally use the GUI for is to run multiple xterms.  Makes
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Re: PPCM.COM

2002-12-10 Thread kwall
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 10:24:36PM -0800, Keith Morse wrote:
 On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 08:11:15PM -, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?The Portal?= wrote:
   Dear Sir/Madam, 

   PPCM.COM- US$ 560 
  
  Hmm. This one slipped through the filter. That said, who in the
  hell would want such a stupid, meaningless domain name?
 
 No doubt for the same reason that somebody would want mpcu.com.  Go fig?

Okay. But I bet you didn't pay US $560 for mpcu.com. 

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Re: Wrong path in SxS site?

2002-12-10 Thread Net Llama!
Eeeek.  OK, i think its fixed now.  Not sure what happened there.  Sorry.

On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Pam R wrote:
 Hi

 I've just noticed that the 'Playing Quicktime movies natively in linux' link
 in New and the 'Quicktime' link in Video point to a text file not an html
 one, although the text seems to be html.



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Network storage?

2002-12-10 Thread Jerry McBride

I may be getting a network storage device, namely a rather large hard drive
setup, that I believe connects into a lan via  Ethernet. What I haven't a clue
is what protocol is used to access it. 

Would anyone have hands on experience with one of these? I suspect it has it's
own on board controller, perhaps running samba or something similar. Am I
totally off base?

Thank you, in advance.




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RE: Network storage?

2002-12-10 Thread Wil McGilvery
Most of these devices have a web interface to configure the box. Others
will allow you to connect a monitor and keyboard. Once the initial setup
is done, you can use all your normal admin tools.

Wil

-Original Message-
From: Jerry McBride [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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To: Linux Users SXS
Subject: Network storage?


I may be getting a network storage device, namely a rather large hard
drive
setup, that I believe connects into a lan via  Ethernet. What I haven't
a clue
is what protocol is used to access it. 

Would anyone have hands on experience with one of these? I suspect it
has it's
own on board controller, perhaps running samba or something similar. Am
I
totally off base?

Thank you, in advance.




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RE: Network storage?

2002-12-10 Thread Net Llama!
The brand  model might help us to help you.  Is this a SAN box?  Or
iSCSI?

On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Wil McGilvery wrote:

 Most of these devices have a web interface to configure the box. Others
 will allow you to connect a monitor and keyboard. Once the initial setup
 is done, you can use all your normal admin tools.

 Wil

 -Original Message-
 From: Jerry McBride [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:47 AM
 To: Linux Users SXS
 Subject: Network storage?


 I may be getting a network storage device, namely a rather large hard
 drive
 setup, that I believe connects into a lan via  Ethernet. What I haven't
 a clue
 is what protocol is used to access it.

 Would anyone have hands on experience with one of these? I suspect it
 has it's
 own on board controller, perhaps running samba or something similar. Am
 I
 totally off base?

 Thank you, in advance.






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Re: Network storage?

2002-12-10 Thread Jim Bonnet
Jerry McBride wrote:

Hi Wil,

Once configured, how do the clients access it? What I picture in my old grey
mind is a network file system, something along the lines of samba, nfs, etc...



it probably nfs or samba or both..

is it like a snap drive? or what brand is it?

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Re: Network storage?

2002-12-10 Thread Jerry McBride
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:13:52 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 The brand  model might help us to help you.  Is this a SAN box?  Or
 iSCSI?
 

Sorry, Lonni... I won't know very much about it till I actually get it.

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mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread Collins
I'm thinking mozilla 1.2.1 is the best browser I've ever used, but how
can I disable popups?  I've scanned all the preference options a dozen
times, and I just don't see it.

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Re: mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread kwall
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 05:59:18PM +, Collins wrote:
 I'm thinking mozilla 1.2.1 is the best browser I've ever used, but how
 can I disable popups?  I've scanned all the preference options a dozen
 times, and I just don't see it.

Edit - Preferences - Advanced - Scripts  Plugins 

Disable Allow scripts to: Open unrequested windows

It won't catch all popups, but it will catch most of
them.

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Re: mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread Michael Fakaro
Go to:

edit

preferences

advanced/scripts  plugins

Uncheck Open unrequested windows box

Regards

Mike F



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Re: mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread Collins
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:10:44 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 05:59:18PM +, Collins wrote:
  I'm thinking mozilla 1.2.1 is the best browser I've ever used, but
  how can I disable popups?  I've scanned all the preference options
  a dozen times, and I just don't see it.
 
 Edit - Preferences - Advanced - Scripts  Plugins 
 
 Disable Allow scripts to: Open unrequested windows
 
 It won't catch all popups, but it will catch most of
 them.

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Joel Hammer - Get Mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread kwall
..because it fixes the problem with Flast crashing remote displays.
From the release notes:

Linux users should upgrade to the latest Flash 6 Beta. This new version 
fixes several problems including crashing with remote displays and hangs 
when the audio device is in use at the time Flash starts up. Mozilla 1.3 
Alpha may not support Flash 5 or earlier so update now. (Bug 58339, 58937)

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Re: Joel Hammer - Get Mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread Net Llama!
On 12/10/02 17:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

..because it fixes the problem with Flast crashing remote displays.

From the release notes:


Linux users should upgrade to the latest Flash 6 Beta. This new version 
fixes several problems including crashing with remote displays and hangs 
when the audio device is in use at the time Flash starts up. Mozilla 1.3 
Alpha may not support Flash 5 or earlier so update now. (Bug 58339, 58937)

Was the lack of a functional /dev/audio the reason for the flash crash? 
 If so, then that makes absolutely no sense, cause i've run mozilla 
with flash on boxes that didn't have audio, and it never crashed.

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Re: Joel Hammer - Get Mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread kwall
Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote:
% On 12/10/02 17:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
% ..because it fixes the problem with Flast crashing remote displays.
% From the release notes:
% 
% Linux users should upgrade to the latest Flash 6 Beta. This new version 
% fixes several problems including crashing with remote displays and hangs 
% when the audio device is in use at the time Flash starts up. Mozilla 1.3 
% Alpha may not support Flash 5 or earlier so update now. (Bug 58339, 58937)
% 
% Was the lack of a functional /dev/audio the reason for the flash crash? 
%  If so, then that makes absolutely no sense, cause i've run mozilla 
% with flash on boxes that didn't have audio, and it never crashed.

I don't know. I didn't look at the bugs. Mozilla 1.2.1 refused to start
here, so I removed it. No error messages or anything. It just ate up
CPU.

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Re: Mail Program

2002-12-10 Thread kwall
Feigning erudition, David A. Bandel wrote:
% -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
% Hash: SHA1
% 
% On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 23:23:14 -0500
% begin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:
% 
% [snip]
% 
%  I liked and used Sylpheed for quite some time here and had no trouble
%  with it. It read HTML-sotted email, displayed images, and so forth
%  without incident. I gave up on it, though, and reverted to Mutt because
%  I decided I didn't need the GUI as badly as I thought I did.

Make that I didn't need Sylpheed's GUI as badly as I thought I did.

% What I principally use the GUI for is to run multiple xterms.  Makes
% cuting and pasting between windows (usually different systems) a breeze.

No argument here. I like X, I just didn't need the GUI for my mail
client. My finger habits proved too hard to break. X is a great platform
for running a dozen xterms. ;-)

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Re: Joel Hammer - Get Mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread Joel Hammer
Thanks. I will install this as soon as possible. That has been a major
problem, since I have got both my women (wife and grown daughter) using
linux on remote X displays. 

You  want to know how I did it? Well, I told them we didn't have
any more working windows computers, which is true as far as they know.

Joel

On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 08:17:10PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...because it fixes the problem with Flast crashing remote displays.
 From the release notes:
 
 Linux users should upgrade to the latest Flash 6 Beta. This new version 
 fixes several problems including crashing with remote displays and hangs 
 when the audio device is in use at the time Flash starts up. Mozilla 1.3 
 Alpha may not support Flash 5 or earlier so update now. (Bug 58339, 58937)
 
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Re: Joel Hammer - Get Mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread kwall
Feigning erudition, Joel Hammer wrote:
% Thanks. I will install this as soon as possible. That has been a major
% problem, since I have got both my women (wife and grown daughter) using
% linux on remote X displays. 

Well, see my follow-up message, which said, in effect, I couldn't seem
to get it to run here. I didn't try hard at all (installed it, tried to
run it, uninstalled it after it appeared to freeze) or for very long
(maybe 3 minutes).

YMMV.
 
% You  want to know how I did it? Well, I told them we didn't have
% any more working windows computers, which is true as far as they know.

For a small consideration, I'll make sure they don't hear they've
been bamboozled. ;-)

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Re: Joel Hammer - Get Mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread Net Llama!
On 12/10/02 17:57, Joel Hammer wrote:

Thanks. I will install this as soon as possible. That has been a major
problem, since I have got both my women (wife and grown daughter) using
linux on remote X displays. 

You  want to know how I did it? Well, I told them we didn't have
any more working windows computers, which is true as far as they know.

That's the same method that I used to convert my wife.  I told her that 
if she wants to use windoze, she'll need to install it  set it up 
herself.  Needless to say, she's using linux.

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Re: Joel Hammer - Get Mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread kwall
Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote:
% On 12/10/02 17:57, Joel Hammer wrote:
% Thanks. I will install this as soon as possible. That has been a major
% problem, since I have got both my women (wife and grown daughter) using
% linux on remote X displays. 
% 
% You  want to know how I did it? Well, I told them we didn't have
% any more working windows computers, which is true as far as they know.
% 
% That's the same method that I used to convert my wife.  I told her that 
% if she wants to use windoze, she'll need to install it  set it up 
% herself.  Needless to say, she's using linux.

If I tried that with my girlfriend, she'd beat me up. Then again, she's
a Mac user, and they're more religious about their OS than we are about
ours.

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Re: Joel Hammer - Get Mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread Joel Hammer


I tried to install flash6.0,but it complained my glibc library is older than
2.2, which I didn't think it was.
So, help is needed.
How can I find out what my version of glibc is?
And, is upgrading glibc dangerous?
Joel

 Feigning erudition, Joel Hammer wrote:
 % Thanks. I will install this as soon as possible. That has been a major
 % problem, since I have got both my women (wife and grown daughter) using
 % linux on remote X displays. 
 
 Well, see my follow-up message, which said, in effect, I couldn't seem
 to get it to run here. I didn't try hard at all (installed it, tried to
 run it, uninstalled it after it appeared to freeze) or for very long
 (maybe 3 minutes).
 
 YMMV.
  
 % You  want to know how I did it? Well, I told them we didn't have
 % any more working windows computers, which is true as far as they know.
 
 For a small consideration, I'll make sure they don't hear they've
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Re: Joel Hammer - Get Mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread Net Llama!
On 12/10/02 18:46, Joel Hammer wrote:


I tried to install flash6.0,but it complained my glibc library is older than
2.2, which I didn't think it was.
So, help is needed.
How can I find out what my version of glibc is?


ls -l /lib/libc.so.6


And, is upgrading glibc dangerous?


If done incorrectly, yes.

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Re: Joel Hammer - Get Mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread Joel Hammer
Ok, I found David Bandel's StepbyStep for upgrading glibc. Is this still
current?

The current glibc is 2.3. Is that safe to put onto a caldera 2.4 box?
David's StepByStep didn't say what do do if you trashed your system. I can
dual boot into another distro of linux if necessary, so I don't have to
worry about a boot disk and all. But, what files would have to be restored
and what file removed if the installation failed?

Thanks,
Joel


On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 09:46:20PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
 
 
 I tried to install flash6.0,but it complained my glibc library is older than
 2.2, which I didn't think it was.
 So, help is needed.
 How can I find out what my version of glibc is?
 And, is upgrading glibc dangerous?
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Re: Joel Hammer - Get Mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread kwall
Feigning erudition, Joel Hammer wrote:
% 
% 
% I tried to install flash6.0,but it complained my glibc library is older than
% 2.2, which I didn't think it was.
% So, help is needed.
% How can I find out what my version of glibc is?

$ /lib/libc.so.6
GNU C Library stable release version 2.2.5, by Roland McGrath et al.
Copyright (C) 1992-2001, 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Compiled by GNU CC version 2.95.3 20010315 (release).
Compiled on a Linux 2.4.18 system on 2002-05-17.
Available extensions:
GNU libio by Per Bothner
crypt add-on version 2.1 by Michael Glad and others
linuxthreads-0.9 by Xavier Leroy
BIND-8.2.3-T5B
libthread_db work sponsored by Alpha Processor Inc
NIS(YP)/NIS+ NSS modules 0.19 by Thorsten Kukuk
Report bugs using the `glibcbug' script to [EMAIL PROTECTED].

% And, is upgrading glibc dangerous?

Yes, potentially.

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Re: Joel Hammer - Get Mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread Net Llama!
On 12/10/02 18:58, Joel Hammer wrote:

Ok, I found David Bandel's StepbyStep for upgrading glibc. Is this still
current?


Yup.  I used it last month.


The current glibc is 2.3. Is that safe to put onto a caldera 2.4 box?


The most recent stable release i think is 2.2.5.  2.3 i think is still a 
beta release.

David's StepByStep didn't say what do do if you trashed your system. I can


Backup /lib before you start.  If it all goes to hell, make sure you 
have something like Knoppix or the Linuxcare BBC ready so you can 
restore /lib.

dual boot into another distro of linux if necessary, so I don't have to
worry about a boot disk and all. But, what files would have to be restored
and what file removed if the installation failed?


or that plan will work too.  Just /lib needs to be restored.

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OpenOffice Sluggishness

2002-12-10 Thread Bob Raymond
Yes, I know the program is usually slow, but what about when it is unusually 
slow?

I've got OpenOffice 1.0.1 compiled as of yesterday morning on my Gentoo 1.4rc* 
system with Portage 2.0.45, GCC 3.2.1, Glibc 2.3.1, and Blackdown JDK 
1.4.1beta, kernel 2.5.51, and it was compiled under 2.5.50bk5.  My hardware 
is Athlon 1.4, EPoX 8K5A3+ (VIA KT333) mainboard, 512MB PC3200 DDR from 
Corsair's XMS series.  The only reason I'm using the 2.5.xx series of kernels 
is that they seem to have the best support for my Highpoint 374 controller.

The program loads the main window, and spends a good minute or two drawing it.  
It spends the time redrawing it every time I switch to another app.  I've 
never gotten far enough to be able to type anything because it is sooo 
sluggish.  I've tried setting the priority on the process to as low as -13 or 
so, and nothing helps.  Anything I might try to make the beast useable?  The 
prog. worked on my previous (because it got hosed) Gentoo install, where it 
was compiled with Blackdown 1.3.1, GCC 3.2, and Glibc 2.2.5.

TIA

Bob Raymond
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Re: Joel Hammer - Get Mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread Joel Hammer
Thanks.
I shall attempt this in the next few days.
Joel

On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 07:26:24PM -0800, Net Llama! wrote:
 On 12/10/02 18:58, Joel Hammer wrote:
  Ok, I found David Bandel's StepbyStep for upgrading glibc. Is this still
  current?
 
 Yup.  I used it last month.
 
  The current glibc is 2.3. Is that safe to put onto a caldera 2.4 box?
 
 The most recent stable release i think is 2.2.5.  2.3 i think is still a 
 beta release.
 
  David's StepByStep didn't say what do do if you trashed your system. I can
 
 Backup /lib before you start.  If it all goes to hell, make sure you 
 have something like Knoppix or the Linuxcare BBC ready so you can 
 restore /lib.
 
  dual boot into another distro of linux if necessary, so I don't have to
  worry about a boot disk and all. But, what files would have to be restored
  and what file removed if the installation failed?
 
 or that plan will work too.  Just /lib needs to be restored.
 
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Re: OpenOffice Sluggishness

2002-12-10 Thread Net Llama!
On 12/10/02 19:41, Bob Raymond wrote:

Yes, I know the program is usually slow, but what about when it is unusually 
slow?

I've got OpenOffice 1.0.1 compiled as of yesterday morning on my Gentoo 1.4rc* 
system with Portage 2.0.45, GCC 3.2.1, Glibc 2.3.1, and Blackdown JDK 
1.4.1beta, kernel 2.5.51, and it was compiled under 2.5.50bk5.  My hardware 
is Athlon 1.4, EPoX 8K5A3+ (VIA KT333) mainboard, 512MB PC3200 DDR from 
Corsair's XMS series.  The only reason I'm using the 2.5.xx series of kernels 
is that they seem to have the best support for my Highpoint 374 controller.

The program loads the main window, and spends a good minute or two drawing it.  
It spends the time redrawing it every time I switch to another app.  I've 
never gotten far enough to be able to type anything because it is sooo 
sluggish.  I've tried setting the priority on the process to as low as -13 or 
so, and nothing helps.  Anything I might try to make the beast useable?  The 
prog. worked on my previous (because it got hosed) Gentoo install, where it 
was compiled with Blackdown 1.3.1, GCC 3.2, and Glibc 2.2.5.

I'm wondering why you feel the need to compile it in the first place? 
Does the precompiled version run as slowly for you?

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Re: OpenOffice Sluggishness

2002-12-10 Thread Bob Raymond
On Wednesday 11 December 2002 03:44 am, Net Llama! wrote:
 On 12/10/02 19:41, Bob Raymond wrote:
  Yes, I know the program is usually slow, but what about when it is
  unusually slow?
 
  I've got OpenOffice 1.0.1 compiled as of yesterday morning on my Gentoo
  1.4rc* system with Portage 2.0.45, GCC 3.2.1, Glibc 2.3.1, and Blackdown
  JDK 1.4.1beta, kernel 2.5.51, and it was compiled under 2.5.50bk5.  My
  hardware is Athlon 1.4, EPoX 8K5A3+ (VIA KT333) mainboard, 512MB PC3200
  DDR from Corsair's XMS series.  The only reason I'm using the 2.5.xx
  series of kernels is that they seem to have the best support for my
  Highpoint 374 controller.
 
  The program loads the main window, and spends a good minute or two
  drawing it. It spends the time redrawing it every time I switch to
  another app.  I've never gotten far enough to be able to type anything
  because it is sooo sluggish.  I've tried setting the priority on the
  process to as low as -13 or so, and nothing helps.  Anything I might try
  to make the beast useable?  The prog. worked on my previous (because it
  got hosed) Gentoo install, where it was compiled with Blackdown 1.3.1,
  GCC 3.2, and Glibc 2.2.5.

 I'm wondering why you feel the need to compile it in the first place?
 Does the precompiled version run as slowly for you?

I have no idea, never having downloaded it.  If someone wants to download it 
and stick it on a CD... I downloaded OpenOffice 1.0.0 source and it took a 
good 20 hours just for the download, and the binary version is no smaller- 
and this is Gentoo, where while there is an openoffice-bin ebuild, it's more 
fun to compile.

Thanks

Bob Raymond
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Font Server or Hard-Coded FontPath

2002-12-10 Thread kwall
The Subject: line pretty much says it, but allow me to phrase it as
a question: which is preferable, using a font server or using the
standard hard-coded FontPath directives in XF86Config? I don't serve
X terminals, so I'm not sure using a font server (xfs or, for True
Type fonts, xfstt) buys me anything. The floor is open for opinions,
but I'd prefer facts. ;-)

Thanks,

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Re: OpenOffice Sluggishness

2002-12-10 Thread Net Llama!
On 12/10/02 19:56, Bob Raymond wrote:

On Wednesday 11 December 2002 03:44 am, Net Llama! wrote:

On 12/10/02 19:41, Bob Raymond wrote:
 Yes, I know the program is usually slow, but what about when it is
 unusually slow?

 I've got OpenOffice 1.0.1 compiled as of yesterday morning on my Gentoo
 1.4rc* system with Portage 2.0.45, GCC 3.2.1, Glibc 2.3.1, and Blackdown
 JDK 1.4.1beta, kernel 2.5.51, and it was compiled under 2.5.50bk5.  My
 hardware is Athlon 1.4, EPoX 8K5A3+ (VIA KT333) mainboard, 512MB PC3200
 DDR from Corsair's XMS series.  The only reason I'm using the 2.5.xx
 series of kernels is that they seem to have the best support for my
 Highpoint 374 controller.

 The program loads the main window, and spends a good minute or two
 drawing it. It spends the time redrawing it every time I switch to
 another app.  I've never gotten far enough to be able to type anything
 because it is sooo sluggish.  I've tried setting the priority on the
 process to as low as -13 or so, and nothing helps.  Anything I might try
 to make the beast useable?  The prog. worked on my previous (because it
 got hosed) Gentoo install, where it was compiled with Blackdown 1.3.1,
 GCC 3.2, and Glibc 2.2.5.

I'm wondering why you feel the need to compile it in the first place?
Does the precompiled version run as slowly for you?


I have no idea, never having downloaded it.  If someone wants to download it 
and stick it on a CD... I downloaded OpenOffice 1.0.0 source and it took a 
good 20 hours just for the download, and the binary version is no smaller- 
and this is Gentoo, where while there is an openoffice-bin ebuild, it's more 
fun to compile.

Well, sure its more fun to compile, but i'm suggesting that something in 
your build is horked.  At least with the binary you can rule out some 
variables.  The binary has always ran just fine for me on the 4 boxes 
where i've got it installed.

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Re: mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread Collins
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:57:44 -0800 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Collins wrote:
 
 I'm thinking mozilla 1.2.1 is the best browser I've ever used,
 
 That much better? Guess I'd better try it, but
 what about galeon and 1.2.1. Does it work?
 

Haven't a clue.  I'm on my smaller is better kick, so I don't have any
gnome or kde loaded on the system.  Well, mozilla isn't exactly small
potatoes, of course.

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Re: mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread Ken Moffat
Collins wrote:


I'm on my smaller is better kick, 

Had a look at Beonex-comm, a netscape look a like that is mozilla based?

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Re: OpenOffice Sluggishness

2002-12-10 Thread Collins
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 04:29:39 + Bob Raymond
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 11 December 2002 04:10 am, Net Llama! wrote:
  On 12/10/02 19:56, Bob Raymond wrote:
   On Wednesday 11 December 2002 03:44 am, Net Llama! wrote:
   On 12/10/02 19:41, Bob Raymond wrote:
Yes, I know the program is usually slow, but what about when
  it is  unusually slow?
   
I've got OpenOffice 1.0.1 compiled as of yesterday morning on
  my  Gentoo 1.4rc* system with Portage 2.0.45, GCC 3.2.1, Glibc
  2.3.1, and  Blackdown JDK 1.4.1beta, kernel 2.5.51, and it was
  compiled under  2.5.50bk5.  My hardware is Athlon 1.4, EPoX
  8K5A3+ (VIA KT333)  mainboard, 512MB PC3200 DDR from Corsair's
  XMS series.  The only  reason I'm using the 2.5.xx series of
  kernels is that they seem to  have the best support for my
  Highpoint 374 controller. 
The program loads the main window, and spends a good minute
  or two  drawing it. It spends the time redrawing it every time
  I switch to  another app.  I've never gotten far enough to be
  able to type anything  because it is sooo sluggish.  I've tried
  setting the priority on the  process to as low as -13 or so,
  and nothing helps.  Anything I might  try to make the beast
  useable?  The prog. worked on my previous  (because it got
  hosed) Gentoo install, where it was compiled with  Blackdown
  1.3.1, GCC 3.2, and Glibc 2.2.5.
   I'm wondering why you feel the need to compile it in the first
  place? Does the precompiled version run as slowly for you?
  
   I have no idea, never having downloaded it.  If someone wants to
   download it and stick it on a CD... I downloaded OpenOffice
   1.0.0 source and it took a good 20 hours just for the download,
   and the binary version is no smaller- and this is Gentoo, where
   while there is an openoffice-bin ebuild, it's more fun to
   compile.
 
  Well, sure its more fun to compile, but i'm suggesting that
  something in your build is horked.  At least with the binary you
  can rule out some variables.  The binary has always ran just fine
  for me on the 4 boxes where i've got it installed.
 
 All right, if the ice is not so bad my father can get to work, I'll
 ask him to download it there.  Thanks
 

Fyi, I'm running the binary version (directly downloaded from OO
rather than the openoffice-bin ebuild) and it works like a champ.  I'm
only running an 800 Mz machine, so startup is a full 15-16 seconds,
but no sluggishness after that.  Screen redraws are practically
instantaneous.  2.4.19 kernel.

I'm all for install from source for most things, but I have no desire
to compile this beast ever.

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Re: mozilla 1.2.1

2002-12-10 Thread Collins
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:32:26 -0800 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Collins wrote:
 
 I'm on my smaller is better kick, 
 
 Had a look at Beonex-comm, a netscape look a like that is mozilla
 based?
 

Briefly on my RH 7.3 system, but I've been so impressed with the new
mozilla that I haven't looked at anything else.  I liked Skipstone
pretty well.

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Re: upgarding to glibc-2.2.5

2002-12-10 Thread m.w.chang
in the last few days, I have seen someone mentioning a problem with
symlink to libcs.so.5 or something. does it mean an extra step to clear
all symlinks before buidling glibc?

my last trial (on a fresh-install COL 3.1) was a failure.I could't
compile a thing after the upgrade procedure.

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 have something like Knoppix or the Linuxcare BBC ready so you can 
 restore /lib.
 or that plan will work too.  Just /lib needs to be restored.
 

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Re: Mail Program

2002-12-10 Thread Keith Morse
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Make that I didn't need Sylpheed's GUI as badly as I thought I did.
 
 % What I principally use the GUI for is to run multiple xterms.  Makes
 % cuting and pasting between windows (usually different systems) a breeze.
 
 No argument here. I like X, I just didn't need the GUI for my mail
 client. My finger habits proved too hard to break. X is a great platform
 for running a dozen xterms. ;-)


Amen to that brother, my fingers twitch in a Pine keystroke sorta way.  
And gnome-term is not an acceptible substitue for xterm.



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