Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 09:22:18 -0800 Aaron Grewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I second that. Icky Flash. Javascript menus are at least plugin-free. I agree about flash. However, Javascript menus are a pain as well. I set up a nice one on a school web site, based on code from www.brainjar.com, and many users of Macs and people with 'old' computers complained that the menus did not work. Mainly Netscape pre 4.76 or something like that. I was a bit suprised. On Wednesday 03 April 2002 08:58 am, you wrote: --- m.w.Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look on this: simple flash menu http://freshmeat.net/redir/sfmenu/22779/url_homepage/ Personally, i *hate* it. Flash is one of the most over-used 'features' around these days, and i've yet to see a single good use for it. Actually the only mildly good use is the stupid/silly animated movies that some people make (All your base, etc). Additionally, Flash requires a plugin, and the last thing we need is to raise the bar on using the Steps. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
On April 3, 2002 06:34 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: On Tuesday 02 April 2002 07:06 pm, Kurt Wall GANDALF conjoured thus: Scribbling feverishly on April 03, Keith Antoine managed to emit: This is possibly prophetic, as it would not take much of a sealevel rise g. Just go to the beach in your thong. That should stop the tide dead in its tracks. ;-) Kurt No way, I do not want to end up in hospital like a countryman of yours from a stinger. He is critical and on life support in Townsville hospital after swimming up north and getting hit by one of the stingers. He swam outside the netted area, another died last week after doing the same. What is a stinger? Did he step on a stingray? Or are we talking about jellyfish (man-o-war)? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Thursday 04 April 2002 07:17 am, burns wrote: No way, I do not want to end up in hospital like a countryman of yours from a stinger. He is critical and on life support in Townsville hospital after swimming up north and getting hit by one of the stingers. He swam outside the netted area, another died last week after doing the same. What is a stinger? Did he step on a stingray? Or are we talking about jellyfish (man-o-war)? Its of the so called 'jelly fish' family and can be deadly. To be honest they are grouped locally as stingers and can come down as far as Brisbane with northerly winds. They are practically invisible very small in size have tenticles up to 20ft long. Up north as you can see from one of my photos all beaches carry warnings, that swimming in summer is hazardous outside netted areas. You can swim with a nylon body suit on and winter is fine too. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 13:19:38 +0800 m.w.Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look on this: simple flash menu http://freshmeat.net/redir/sfmenu/22779/url_homepage/ I got a gray box on the left. I have flash installed. It seems the server needs something as well. Would that be Freshmeat's server? Odd demo. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Tuesday 02 April 2002 05:26 pm, Net Llama GANDALF conjoured thus: This is possibly prophetic, as it would not take much of a sealevel rise g. Perhaps it already has. Anyone heard a peep from Mike in the past few days? Yes I did over the weekend, so he is still breathing, I think! -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Tuesday 02 April 2002 07:06 pm, Kurt Wall GANDALF conjoured thus: Scribbling feverishly on April 03, Keith Antoine managed to emit: This is possibly prophetic, as it would not take much of a sealevel rise g. Just go to the beach in your thong. That should stop the tide dead in its tracks. ;-) Kurt No way, I do not want to end up in hospital like a countryman of yours from a stinger. He is critical and on life support in Townsville hospital after swimming up north and getting hit by one of the stingers. He swam outside the netted area, another died last week after doing the same. Shawn Taylor is coming over very soon and going to the Gold Coast, they have more sharks per 100mts there at the moment than sand on the beach, as they are herding bait fish into the shallows. They are also accompanied by whales and porpoises. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Wednesday 03 April 2002 12:19 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 13:19:38 +0800 m.w.Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look on this: simple flash menu http://freshmeat.net/redir/sfmenu/22779/url_homepage/ I got a gray box on the left. I have flash installed. It seems the server needs something as well. Would that be Freshmeat's server? Odd demo. I get the same here, you are right, very odd demo:) -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
I haven't tried it yet (still in office). You guys using.. hmm... IE? :) Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 13:19:38 +0800 m.w.Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look on this: simple flash menu http://freshmeat.net/redir/sfmenu/22779/url_homepage/ I got a gray box on the left. I have flash installed. It seems the server needs something as well. Would that be Freshmeat's server? Odd demo. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 17:45:12 +0800 m.w.Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't tried it yet (still in office). You guys using.. hmm... IE? :) Blasphemy! I tried Mozilla 0.9.9 and Konq as delivered with Caldera 3.1.1 Neither worked. The info in the page implied that the server needed an XML file that flash would in some way turn into a menu. What type of menu I am not sure, as the page gave no clue and the demo did not function. It would be nice if it was a server-only thing. But I expect that it requires client flash support. Easy, but not guaranteed,. Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 13:19:38 +0800 m.w.Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look on this: simple flash menu http://freshmeat.net/redir/sfmenu/22779/url_homepage/ I got a gray box on the left. I have flash installed. It seems the server needs something as well. Would that be Freshmeat's server? Odd demo. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
It should work. but flash is now up to 6. I wonder about the verion of her linux plugin Roger Oberholtzer wrote: You guys using.. hmm... IE? :) Blasphemy! I tried Mozilla 0.9.9 and Konq as delivered with Caldera 3.1.1 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 00:55:43 -0800 begin Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Wednesday 03 April 2002 12:19 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 13:19:38 +0800 m.w.Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look on this: simple flash menu http://freshmeat.net/redir/sfmenu/22779/url_homepage/ I got a gray box on the left. I have flash installed. It seems the server needs something as well. Would that be Freshmeat's server? Odd demo. I get the same here, you are right, very odd demo:) Turn on Javascript Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
--- Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 03 April 2002 12:19 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 13:19:38 +0800 m.w.Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look on this: simple flash menu http://freshmeat.net/redir/sfmenu/22779/url_homepage/ I got a gray box on the left. I have flash installed. It seems the server needs something as well. Would that be Freshmeat's server? Odd demo. I get the same here, you are right, very odd demo:) It worked as advertised for me (in Mozilla). = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
That's news to me. I've been using the same flash plugin for the past year, and this site worked just fine for me. --- Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Answering my own post... The problem is that you need the latest Flash, not the one that comes with Col 3.1.1 On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 17:06:43 +0200 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 06:35:43 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turn on Javascript It is. In both. Initially it was not on in Konq 2.2.1, and then I did not get the grey box to the left. After enabling it globally, I then got the grey box. In Mozilla 0.9.9 it is enabled for web pages and windows are allowed to do all things. The Shockwave Flash is the one installed with Col 3.1.1, which is 4.0 r12. Netscape 4.77 also gets the grey box. Maybe it requires Flash 5? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
I second that. Icky Flash. Javascript menus are at least plugin-free. On Wednesday 03 April 2002 08:58 am, you wrote: --- m.w.Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look on this: simple flash menu http://freshmeat.net/redir/sfmenu/22779/url_homepage/ Personally, i *hate* it. Flash is one of the most over-used 'features' around these days, and i've yet to see a single good use for it. Actually the only mildly good use is the stupid/silly animated movies that some people make (All your base, etc). Additionally, Flash requires a plugin, and the last thing we need is to raise the bar on using the Steps. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
(day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
The new snapshot of the developing site redesign is up. The following concerns have been addresses: 1. the javascript windows resize is gone. It wasn't intended to be a part of the site. I was using it to help me gauge window sizes, table alignments, and font spacing. 2. the frame borders are invisible. they were only visible to illustrate the layout to Net Llama. I didn't know he was going to tell everyone about the url ;) 3. the middle frame has been absorbed into another frame much like the current site. I never cared for having it seperate. I just made it that way so that I could keep track of the many required elements. 4. the 2 words per row between the two tables has been fixed. however, this means that the minimum browser window size is slightly larger (if you don't want to have to scroll the site) Frames are still there. I don't care for them that much either, but the main focus for right now is the design itself. How we do the layout can be worked out after we have a final design. NOTE: The images on the site with the penguin are temporary. But the general look is probably going to stay. (beach, books, some kind of beverage) I've asked Burns to generate some new Dr Tux images whenever he gets some time. There's still a ton of 404 errors. It is intentional. There is no sense in copying all that content around when the focus right now is the face of the site. There is nothing I can do about the white on white in the store. I've sent a request up to the site admin (the store is one of those co-partner things). The jury is still out on whether the final site will have a store or not. Opinions? You'll also note the opinions link. This will take you to a beta site of a concept that we are kicking around. Essentially, what we were hoping to achieve was a place where you (the user) can go to look up reviews (written by your peers in the community) of different hardware or software or distros. think epinions.com meets the linux hardware compatibility list meets the steps. The site will also have relevant links to SxS content. For example, you go to the opinion site and lookup cd-r drives. It will present you with a link to the relevant SxS material on cd-r drives, and will also show what cd-r drives have been reviewed by the community. the reviews will tell the make and model, the success, what kernel, what distro, overall rating of the drive, etc. That way you can see oh look. lite-on drives work well with linux. acer ones dont. guess I wont be buying that acer drive at best buy after all. There are very few reports in the system right now. If you get a chance, create a login and start generating reports. Try to break it. Then send me whatever errors messages/issues/ideas/etc you encounter. The url is still http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org printk(Entering UltraSMPenguin Mode...\n); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/smp.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Tuesday 02 April 2002 9:35 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: The sentence below is the first thing I see at the site (using Konqi). Doesn't read right. This the main Step By Step site located somewhere in the South Pacific Ocean. Welcome! The new snapshot of the developing site redesign is up. The following concerns have been addresses: 1. the javascript windows resize is gone. It wasn't intended to be a part of the site. I was using it to help me gauge window sizes, table alignments, and font spacing. 2. the frame borders are invisible. they were only visible to illustrate the layout to Net Llama. I didn't know he was going to tell everyone about the url ;) 3. the middle frame has been absorbed into another frame much like the current site. I never cared for having it seperate. I just made it that way so that I could keep track of the many required elements. 4. the 2 words per row between the two tables has been fixed. however, this means that the minimum browser window size is slightly larger (if you don't want to have to scroll the site) Frames are still there. I don't care for them that much either, but the main focus for right now is the design itself. How we do the layout can be worked out after we have a final design. NOTE: The images on the site with the penguin are temporary. But the general look is probably going to stay. (beach, books, some kind of beverage) I've asked Burns to generate some new Dr Tux images whenever he gets some time. There's still a ton of 404 errors. It is intentional. There is no sense in copying all that content around when the focus right now is the face of the site. There is nothing I can do about the white on white in the store. I've sent a request up to the site admin (the store is one of those co-partner things). The jury is still out on whether the final site will have a store or not. Opinions? You'll also note the opinions link. This will take you to a beta site of a concept that we are kicking around. Essentially, what we were hoping to achieve was a place where you (the user) can go to look up reviews (written by your peers in the community) of different hardware or software or distros. think epinions.com meets the linux hardware compatibility list meets the steps. The site will also have relevant links to SxS content. For example, you go to the opinion site and lookup cd-r drives. It will present you with a link to the relevant SxS material on cd-r drives, and will also show what cd-r drives have been reviewed by the community. the reviews will tell the make and model, the success, what kernel, what distro, overall rating of the drive, etc. That way you can see oh look. lite-on drives work well with linux. acer ones dont. guess I wont be buying that acer drive at best buy after all. There are very few reports in the system right now. If you get a chance, create a login and start generating reports. Try to break it. Then send me whatever errors messages/issues/ideas/etc you encounter. The url is still http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 04/02/02 09:46 + ++ Structured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
Bruce Marshall spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: The sentence below is the first thing I see at the site (using Konqi). Doesn't read right. How about: Welcome to the main StepByStep site, located somewhere in the South Pacific. Then the mirrors could use something like: Welcome to the Montana StepByStep mirror, located in Billings, Montanta. or no? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Hazards - There is an island of opportunity in the middle of every difficulty. Miss that, though, and you're pretty much doomed. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 09:47:14 -0500 begin Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Tuesday 02 April 2002 9:35 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: The sentence below is the first thing I see at the site (using Konqi). Doesn't read right. This the main Step By Step site located somewhere in the South Pacific Ocean. Welcome! Well it reads fine if the server is several hundred leagues under the sea. Can you prove differently? Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
Bruce Marshall spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: Sounds much better Is it still in the South Pacific? No. But it helps to maintain the mystique and the internationalism -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Try to prove me wrong. - Linus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
Much, much better. Looks really good now (IMO). --- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The new snapshot of the developing site redesign is up. The following concerns have been addresses: 1. the javascript windows resize is gone. It wasn't intended to be a part of the site. I was using it to help me gauge window sizes, table alignments, and font spacing. 2. the frame borders are invisible. they were only visible to illustrate the layout to Net Llama. I didn't know he was going to tell everyone about the url ;) 3. the middle frame has been absorbed into another frame much like the current site. I never cared for having it seperate. I just made it that way so that I could keep track of the many required elements. 4. the 2 words per row between the two tables has been fixed. however, this means that the minimum browser window size is slightly larger (if you don't want to have to scroll the site) Frames are still there. I don't care for them that much either, but the main focus for right now is the design itself. How we do the layout can be worked out after we have a final design. NOTE: The images on the site with the penguin are temporary. But the general look is probably going to stay. (beach, books, some kind of beverage) I've asked Burns to generate some new Dr Tux images whenever he gets some time. There's still a ton of 404 errors. It is intentional. There is no sense in copying all that content around when the focus right now is the face of the site. There is nothing I can do about the white on white in the store. I've sent a request up to the site admin (the store is one of those co-partner things). The jury is still out on whether the final site will have a store or not. Opinions? You'll also note the opinions link. This will take you to a beta site of a concept that we are kicking around. Essentially, what we were hoping to achieve was a place where you (the user) can go to look up reviews (written by your peers in the community) of different hardware or software or distros. think epinions.com meets the linux hardware compatibility list meets the steps. The site will also have relevant links to SxS content. For example, you go to the opinion site and lookup cd-r drives. It will present you with a link to the relevant SxS material on cd-r drives, and will also show what cd-r drives have been reviewed by the community. the reviews will tell the make and model, the success, what kernel, what distro, overall rating of the drive, etc. That way you can see oh look. lite-on drives work well with linux. acer ones dont. guess I wont be buying that acer drive at best buy after all. There are very few reports in the system right now. If you get a chance, create a login and start generating reports. Try to break it. Then send me whatever errors messages/issues/ideas/etc you encounter. The url is still http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
I agree. I checked it in Konqi, Moz, and Links and it looks very nice. On Tuesday 02 April 2002 09:25 am, you wrote: Much, much better. Looks really good now (IMO). --- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The new snapshot of the developing site redesign is up. The following concerns have been addresses: 1. the javascript windows resize is gone. It wasn't intended to be a part of the site. I was using it to help me gauge window sizes, table alignments, and font spacing. 2. the frame borders are invisible. they were only visible to illustrate the layout to Net Llama. I didn't know he was going to tell everyone about the url ;) 3. the middle frame has been absorbed into another frame much like the current site. I never cared for having it seperate. I just made it that way so that I could keep track of the many required elements. 4. the 2 words per row between the two tables has been fixed. however, this means that the minimum browser window size is slightly larger (if you don't want to have to scroll the site) Frames are still there. I don't care for them that much either, but the main focus for right now is the design itself. How we do the layout can be worked out after we have a final design. NOTE: The images on the site with the penguin are temporary. But the general look is probably going to stay. (beach, books, some kind of beverage) I've asked Burns to generate some new Dr Tux images whenever he gets some time. There's still a ton of 404 errors. It is intentional. There is no sense in copying all that content around when the focus right now is the face of the site. There is nothing I can do about the white on white in the store. I've sent a request up to the site admin (the store is one of those co-partner things). The jury is still out on whether the final site will have a store or not. Opinions? You'll also note the opinions link. This will take you to a beta site of a concept that we are kicking around. Essentially, what we were hoping to achieve was a place where you (the user) can go to look up reviews (written by your peers in the community) of different hardware or software or distros. think epinions.com meets the linux hardware compatibility list meets the steps. The site will also have relevant links to SxS content. For example, you go to the opinion site and lookup cd-r drives. It will present you with a link to the relevant SxS material on cd-r drives, and will also show what cd-r drives have been reviewed by the community. the reviews will tell the make and model, the success, what kernel, what distro, overall rating of the drive, etc. That way you can see oh look. lite-on drives work well with linux. acer ones dont. guess I wont be buying that acer drive at best buy after all. There are very few reports in the system right now. If you get a chance, create a login and start generating reports. Try to break it. Then send me whatever errors messages/issues/ideas/etc you encounter. The url is still http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
(day two) - your opinion on the new design needed [big snip] Overall, I like the L F. [big snip] You'll also note the opinions link. This will take you to a beta site of a concept that we are kicking around. Essentially, what we were hoping to achieve was a place where you (the user) can go to look up reviews (written by your peers in the community) of different hardware or software or distros. think epinions.com meets the linux hardware compatibility list meets the steps. The site will also have relevant links to SxS content. For example, you go to the opinion site and lookup cd-r drives. It will present you with a link to the relevant SxS material on cd-r drives, and will also show what cd-r drives have been reviewed by the community. the reviews will tell the make and model, the success, what kernel, what distro, overall rating of the drive, etc. That way you can see oh look. lite-on drives work well with linux. acer ones dont. guess I wont be buying that acer drive at best buy after all. There are very few reports in the system right now. If you get a chance, create a login and start generating reports. Try to break it. Then send me whatever errors messages/issues/ideas/etc you encounter. The opinion link is a great idea = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Tuesday 02 April 2002 10:37 am, David A. Bandel GANDALF conjoured thus: This the main Step By Step site located somewhere in the South Pacific Ocean. Welcome! Well it reads fine if the server is several hundred leagues under the sea. Can you prove differently? Ciao, David A. Bandel This is possibly prophetic, as it would not take much of a sealevel rise g. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
--- Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 April 2002 10:37 am, David A. Bandel GANDALF conjoured thus: This the main Step By Step site located somewhere in the South Pacific Ocean. Welcome! Well it reads fine if the server is several hundred leagues under the sea. Can you prove differently? Ciao, David A. Bandel This is possibly prophetic, as it would not take much of a sealevel rise g. Perhaps it already has. Anyone heard a peep from Mike in the past few days? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
Looks real nice. Much cleaner. And I must say the idea of the opinions page sounds great. Bill On Tuesday 02 April 2002 09:35 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: The new snapshot of the developing site redesign is up. The following concerns have been addresses: 1. the javascript windows resize is gone. It wasn't intended to be a part of the site. I was using it to help me gauge window sizes, table alignments, and font spacing. 2. the frame borders are invisible. they were only visible to illustrate the layout to Net Llama. I didn't know he was going to tell everyone about the url ;) 3. the middle frame has been absorbed into another frame much like the current site. I never cared for having it seperate. I just made it that way so that I could keep track of the many required elements. 4. the 2 words per row between the two tables has been fixed. however, this means that the minimum browser window size is slightly larger (if you don't want to have to scroll the site) Frames are still there. I don't care for them that much either, but the main focus for right now is the design itself. How we do the layout can be worked out after we have a final design. NOTE: The images on the site with the penguin are temporary. But the general look is probably going to stay. (beach, books, some kind of beverage) I've asked Burns to generate some new Dr Tux images whenever he gets some time. There's still a ton of 404 errors. It is intentional. There is no sense in copying all that content around when the focus right now is the face of the site. There is nothing I can do about the white on white in the store. I've sent a request up to the site admin (the store is one of those co-partner things). The jury is still out on whether the final site will have a store or not. Opinions? You'll also note the opinions link. This will take you to a beta site of a concept that we are kicking around. Essentially, what we were hoping to achieve was a place where you (the user) can go to look up reviews (written by your peers in the community) of different hardware or software or distros. think epinions.com meets the linux hardware compatibility list meets the steps. The site will also have relevant links to SxS content. For example, you go to the opinion site and lookup cd-r drives. It will present you with a link to the relevant SxS material on cd-r drives, and will also show what cd-r drives have been reviewed by the community. the reviews will tell the make and model, the success, what kernel, what distro, overall rating of the drive, etc. That way you can see oh look. lite-on drives work well with linux. acer ones dont. guess I wont be buying that acer drive at best buy after all. There are very few reports in the system right now. If you get a chance, create a login and start generating reports. Try to break it. Then send me whatever errors messages/issues/ideas/etc you encounter. The url is still http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Apr 2 Douglas J Hunley was heard saying: snip -How about: -Welcome to the main StepByStep site, located somewhere in the South Pacific. *** I looked in my bookmarks and found these 3 links which used to help me finding out if my sites were going to end up on their home page or not. I though it might be usefull URL's. http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/suckframe.htm http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/home.html BTW, I assure you the name in these 3 URL's does not have anything to do with our site! ;-) Anyway, their is a thing with welcoming people to ones site: In fact, it is understood they are welcome! I think we should ditch the Welcome and use simply something like This is the main..., etc... Cheers, Zoran. -- If you find me, please return me to my $HOME: my address is 'cd'. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
Scribbling feverishly on April 02, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: Bruce Marshall spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: Sounds much better Is it still in the South Pacific? No, unless Columbus, Ohio, U.S.A., Planet Earth, Sol is in the South Pacific, and the last time I saw him, Doug wasn't wearing a grass skirt (the mind boggles at the image). Kurt -- Your boss climbed the corporate ladder, wrong by wrong. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
Scribbling feverishly on April 03, Keith Antoine managed to emit: This is possibly prophetic, as it would not take much of a sealevel rise g. Just go to the beach in your thong. That should stop the tide dead in its tracks. ;-) Kurt -- You will step on the night soil of many countries. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
--- Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scribbling feverishly on April 02, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: Bruce Marshall spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: Sounds much better Is it still in the South Pacific? No, unless Columbus, Ohio, U.S.A., Planet Earth, Sol is in the South Pacific, and the last time I saw him, Doug wasn't wearing a grass skirt (the mind boggles at the image). Yea, it never gets warm enough in that part of the country to wear a grass skirt. They'll still be digging out from snow in July ;) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
Kurt Wall spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: No, unless Columbus, Ohio, U.S.A., Planet Earth, Sol is in the South Pacific, and the last time I saw him, Doug wasn't wearing a grass skirt (the mind boggles at the image). if the skirt went from my neck to my ankles, it wouldn't be too bad ;) dude, where you been? I changed the editors alias for you so that it would stop bouncing off kurtwerks.com, and still no word from you. Timesys is really keeping you busy huh? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org And your cry-baby whiny-butt opinion would be...? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
Net Llama spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: Yea, it never gets warm enough in that part of the country to wear a grass skirt. They'll still be digging out from snow in July ;) hey! we barely had any snow the last couple of years. As long as you stay away from the great lakes, the snow ain't so bad. not that its worth moving here though. the state released a report last year showing that like 90% of the population in Ohio were life-long residents. My first though was, what the hell were the other 10% thinking to make them move here? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org The only secure computer is one that's unplugged, locked in a safe, and buried 20 feet under the ground in a secret location... and I'm not even too sure about that one -- Dennis Huges, FBI. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: Yea, it never gets warm enough in that part of the country to wear a grass skirt. They'll still be digging out from snow in July ;) hey! we barely had any snow the last couple of years. As long as you stay away from the great lakes, the snow ain't so bad. not that its worth moving here though. the state released a report last year showing that like 90% of the population in Ohio were life-long residents. My first though was, what the hell were the other 10% thinking to make them move here? Hell if i know. Ohio is one of those states like New Jersey, that you move away from, not into. And anyway, barely any snow is still more than i dealt with this past winter. :P = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
I don't think you have anything above your big belly.. :) Douglas J Hunley wrote: Kurt Wall spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: if the skirt went from my neck to my ankles, it wouldn't be too bad ;) ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
Scribbling feverishly on April 02, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: Kurt Wall spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: No, unless Columbus, Ohio, U.S.A., Planet Earth, Sol is in the South Pacific, and the last time I saw him, Doug wasn't wearing a grass skirt (the mind boggles at the image). if the skirt went from my neck to my ankles, it wouldn't be too bad ;) dude, where you been? I changed the editors alias for you so that it would stop bouncing off kurtwerks.com, and still no word from you. Timesys is really keeping you busy huh? Really busy, but it is starting to ease up, just in time to start writing articles and work on another book. kurtwerks.com should have quit bouncing by now. In fact, I'm replying to this message therefrom... Kurt -- You will have good luck and overcome many hardships. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
Scribbling feverishly on April 02, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: [choppety slash] dude, where you been? I changed the editors alias for you so that it would stop bouncing off kurtwerks.com, and still no word from you. Timesys is really keeping you busy huh? Oh, and don't panic when you see the unsub coming from my work email address. I get too much mail there as it is, and now that KurtWerks is up and running (sort of -- email and FTP and SSH work), I'd just as soon get non-work email here. Kurt -- You learn to write as if to someone else because NEXT YEAR YOU WILL BE SOMEONE ELSE. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
M.W.Chang spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: I don't think you have anything above your big belly.. :) I'm not sure how to take that! -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org /* Thanks to Rob `CmdrTaco' Malda for not influencing this code in any * way. */ 2.4.3 linux/net/core/netfilter.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
Kurt Wall spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: writing articles and work on another book. kurtwerks.com should have quit bouncing by now. In fact, I'm replying to this message therefrom... I saw that. Of course, I changed everything to the verizon.net account the other day... -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home. --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
No.. you cannot a she..AFAIK if the skirt went from my neck to my ankles, it wouldn't be too bad I don't think you have anything above your big belly.. :) I'm not sure how to take that! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
Take a look on this: simple flash menu http://freshmeat.net/redir/sfmenu/22779/url_homepage/ Was just announced today. could be used for the sidebar now or in the new vesrion. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
