Re: Klez at it again

2002-05-06 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Fri, 3 May 2002 14:25:11 -0700
Philip J. Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2 May 2002, at 18:24, David A. Bandel boldly uttered: 
  
  NOTE:  Klez, when run, first disables antivirus software, deletes
  signature files from common AV programs, then installs itself as a
  service.  You can't run, you can't hide, all you can do is reformat.

Disable the anti-virus software? Oh, pleeazzee, let me re-install
Windows on my box...

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Re: Klez at it again

2002-05-05 Thread Bill Day

Im sorry Doug, I did not mean that they came from linux-sxs.org, they were
jsut spoofed as linux-sxs.org.  The came from netvigator.com. and netvigator
seems to be running M$2k and Exchange.

Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
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 Bill Day spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
  I am also receiving klez'd emails from major places, i.e.
driverguide.com,
  and have yet to receive any more klezd emaisl via linux-sxs.org

 Not to be arguin Bill, but you *never* should have gotten any from
 linux-sxs.org

 This setup has been turning them away from day one..
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Re: Klez at it again

2002-05-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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Bill Day spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
 Im sorry Doug, I did not mean that they came from linux-sxs.org, they were
 jsut spoofed as linux-sxs.org.  The came from netvigator.com. and
 netvigator seems to be running M$2k and Exchange.

ah. had me worrried for a second there. cool.
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2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/include/asm-sparc/floppy.h
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Re: Klez at it again

2002-05-03 Thread Philip J. Koenig

On 2 May 2002, at 18:24, David A. Bandel boldly uttered: 
 
 NOTE:  Klez, when run, first disables antivirus software, deletes
 signature files from common AV programs, then installs itself as a
 service.  You can't run, you can't hide, all you can do is reformat.


Actually most major A/V vendors have written tools to remove the 
worm.  Here are 2 examples, the first one also includes manual 
removal instructions:

http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_KLEZ.H (overview)
http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/security/fix_worm_klez_3.11.zip (fix)
http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/security/readme_worm_klez_3.11.txt (readme)


http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (overview)
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.klez.removal.tool.html




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Re: Klez at it again

2002-05-03 Thread David A. Bandel

On Fri, 3 May 2002 14:25:11 -0700
begin  Philip J. Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 On 2 May 2002, at 18:24, David A. Bandel boldly uttered: 
  
  NOTE:  Klez, when run, first disables antivirus software, deletes
  signature files from common AV programs, then installs itself as a
  service.  You can't run, you can't hide, all you can do is reformat.
 
 
 Actually most major A/V vendors have written tools to remove the 
 worm.  Here are 2 examples, the first one also includes manual 
 removal instructions:
 
 http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_KLEZ.H
 (overview)
 http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/security/fix_worm_klez_3.11.zip (fix)
 http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/security/readme_worm_klez_3.11.txt
 (readme)
 
 
 http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (overview)
 http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.klez.removal.tool.html
 

Great, but now I'm only getting trickles.  When the faucet was first
turned on, there were no programs to clean infected machines.  Did you
expect folks (business users) to turn their systems off for two weeks
while the AV folks worked out a fix?  Easier and quicker (and frankly
safer) to just reformat.  It is Windoze after all, and needs to be
reinstalled regularly.

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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Re: Klez at it again

2002-05-03 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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Bill Day spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
 I am also receiving klez'd emails from major places, i.e. driverguide.com,
 and have yet to receive any more klezd emaisl via linux-sxs.org

Not to be arguin Bill, but you *never* should have gotten any from 
linux-sxs.org

This setup has been turning them away from day one..
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You realize we're all going to go to college as virgins. They probably have 
special dorms for people like us.
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Re: Klez at it again

2002-05-03 Thread Ken Moffat

I don't think the 'from' addresses are correct, they are spoofed. The
subjects are made up, and the file attachments are random.
wow.

On Fri, 3 May 2002 23:03:26 -0400
Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Bill Day spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
  I am also receiving klez'd emails from major places, i.e.
  driverguide.com, and have yet to receive any more klezd emaisl via
  linux-sxs.org
 
 Not to be arguin Bill, but you *never* should have gotten any from 
 linux-sxs.org
 
 This setup has been turning them away from day one..
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 You realize we're all going to go to college as virgins. They
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Re: Klez at it again

2002-05-02 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on May 02, Gerry Doris managed to emit:

[...]

 David, are you sure that it came from these lists?  I'm subscribed to them 
 too and I don't remember seeing any messages with the subject 
 Troubleshooting.  

Klez messages have random headers. I'm seeing them also. 

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Re: Klez at it again

2002-05-02 Thread David A. Bandel

On Thu, 2 May 2002 20:15:15 -0400 (EDT)
begin  Gerry Doris [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 On Thu, 2 May 2002, David A. Bandel wrote:
 
  Folks,
  
  Please review the mail headers, someone on one of these lists has
  Klez. This is not really bounce message: 1.  No Windoze here (much
  less Outhouse) 2.  I don't think I know this e-mail address
  
  The Return-Path has most certainly been altered.  But we can say that
  it originated on comcast.net:
 
 snip
  
  Subject: Undeliverable mail--Troubleshooting
  
 
 David, are you sure that it came from these lists?  I'm subscribed to
 them too and I don't remember seeing any messages with the subject 
 Troubleshooting.  

The message came direct to me, but since I don't recognize the
icomcast.net address in the header, I suspect someone either currently or
previously subscribed to a list I was on has the virus.  Could be anyone,
but I thought I'd start with the two lists I'm most active on.

Klez headers are always altered (Return-Path:, Subject:, From:), but Klez
can't alter what the mail servers put on the messages.  So it definitely
came from someone using comcast.net. That's about all we can say for the
moment (and be correct).

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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Re: Klez at it again

2002-05-02 Thread Bill Day

Currently whilst I setup my new linuxbox, I am using a winbox(via the
newsgroup) rather than email, how ever, those using AVG must upgrade to
version 351 and update their viri sigs as well.

I am also receiving klez'd emails from major places, i.e. driverguide.com,
and have yet to receive any more klezd emaisl via linux-sxs.org


Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 David A. Bandel spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
  Folks,
 
  Please review the mail headers, someone on one of these lists has Klez.
  This is not really bounce message: 1.  No Windoze here (much less
  Outhouse) 2.  I don't think I know this e-mail address

 fortunately, any mail passing through linux-sxs.org with klez will be
caught.
 if anyone out there needs help in setting this up, please let me know!
 also, there's no more excuses folks. AVG is a free for personal use,
Windows
 anti-virus package. check www.grisoft.com for details. granted, if you
have
 klez, it attacks the anti-virus but then again, it may not know about
AVG
 ;)
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Klez at it again

2002-05-02 Thread David A. Bandel

Folks,

Please review the mail headers, someone on one of these lists has Klez. 
This is not really bounce message: 1.  No Windoze here (much less
Outhouse) 2.  I don't think I know this e-mail address

The Return-Path has most certainly been altered.  But we can say that it
originated on comcast.net:

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from mtaout06 (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2])
by ns1.panamanow.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g42MgNGf001153
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 2 May 2002 18:42:23 -0400
Received: from Yhbqziql (pcp986188pcs.northw01.in.comcast.net
[68.58.49.21]) by mtaout06.icomcast.net
 (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.6 (built Apr 26 2002))
 with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 02 May 2002 18:37:25 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 18:37:17 -0400 (EDT)
Date-warning: Date header was inserted by mtaout06.icomcast.net
From: postmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Undeliverable mail--Troubleshooting
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary=Boundary_(ID_wi9KXBf+sfYB8WitpSrZWA)
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests= version=2.01
Status:   

The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Troubleshooting
The attachment is the original mail

Attachments included the Klez virus (God, I'm getting tired of getting
them, I've over 60 copies now).

You don't have to fess up, just please reformat and reinstall your system,
then put on all the patches and STOP USING OUTHOUSE!

NOTE:  Klez, when run, first disables antivirus software, deletes
signature files from common AV programs, then installs itself as a
service.  You can't run, you can't hide, all you can do is reformat.

Thanx, and sorry for the interruption.  Now, back to our regularly
scheduled programming, with Perl^H^H^H^HLinux.

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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Re: Klez at it again

2002-05-02 Thread Gerry Doris

On Thu, 2 May 2002, David A. Bandel wrote:

 Folks,
 
 Please review the mail headers, someone on one of these lists has Klez. 
 This is not really bounce message: 1.  No Windoze here (much less
 Outhouse) 2.  I don't think I know this e-mail address
 
 The Return-Path has most certainly been altered.  But we can say that it
 originated on comcast.net:

snip
 
 Subject: Undeliverable mail--Troubleshooting
 

David, are you sure that it came from these lists?  I'm subscribed to them 
too and I don't remember seeing any messages with the subject 
Troubleshooting.  

I'm really curious since I may have deleted it without reading it as I get
so many messages that I usually scan the subjects and only read the
interesting topics.  If that's the case then mailscanner that is supposed 
to be checking for virii using F-Prot missed it.

On the other hand mailscanner definitely didn't find a message with Klez 
in it either???

S, either the message didn't come in on these lists or mailscanner 
running on my system didn't catch the virus?

Gerry
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