Re: kde3 rocks!
Hi, I've finally compiled KDE3 on COL 3.1.1 Workstation. I'm attaching a quick dirtyTM script I've used to compile it. It will compile QT3, libxml, libpcre, libxlst and KDE. Also, it uses objprelink and checkinstall (so you endup with the RPMS). I think it could be a nice addition to the step Doug's writing. I've made it using comments and tips from this list. Please note that I've disabled java in kdebindings (due to the bug mentioned by Tim). Oh, BTW: To those willing to compile Liquid 0.9.2, it should be noted that before doing ./configure make make install, you should do: make -f Makefile.cvs There's no README/doc/anything telling how to build this beast. So, it may be puzzling to some inexperienced people. Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 kde3_build.sh Description: Binary data
Re: kde3 rocks!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I forgot to mention that the script is somewhat intelligent: if you cancel, it won't recompile everything. Besides that, it also generates a configure/make log for each package. On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:18:15 -0300, Federico Voges wrote: Hi, I've finally compiled KDE3 on COL 3.1.1 Workstation. I'm attaching a quick dirtyTM script I've used to compile it. It will compile QT3, libxml, libpcre, libxlst and KDE. Also, it uses objprelink and checkinstall (so you endup with the RPMS). I think it could be a nice addition to the step Doug's writing. I've made it using comments and tips from this list. Please note that I've disabled java in kdebindings (due to the bug mentioned by Tim). Oh, BTW: To those willing to compile Liquid 0.9.2, it should be noted that before doing ./configure make make install, you should do: make -f Makefile.cvs There's no README/doc/anything telling how to build this beast. So, it may be puzzling to some inexperienced people. Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPLXGshRcJRaVKt4XEQIj6ACdGl03bTfjRbgyYy2uLROhZp4LaqIAnRzZ R1LHJW9jnd1AN1qjIyqU76B1 =Sly3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: kde3 rocks!
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:24:02 -0300 Federico Voges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot to mention that the script is somewhat intelligent: if you cancel, it won't recompile everything. Besides that, it also generates a configure/make log for each package. Thank you. KDE3.0 will be one of my upcomming projects and your script is most welcomed. -- * * Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 5:20pm up 29 days, 22:38, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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What are the caveats to compiling (or did you get SuSE RPMS)? On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 13:04:19 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 05 April 2002 13:02, Net Llama wrote: does it suck? not for me -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org printk(CPU[|d]: Giving pardon to imprisoned penguins\n, smp_processor_id());2.4.8 arch/sparc64/kernel/smp.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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Please. I'd like to see it. Then if anyone would like to host these and any other COL3.1.x RPMs, I would like to supply them. I simply don't have to online-space to take advantage of (yet?). On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 21:39:52 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 05 April 2002 21:19, Rick Sivernell wrote: I thought about downloading for ew3.1.1 and heard all of the horror stories. What does it really take to build the srpms. Has anyone built a script to automake them? I build from source, and then make my own rpms. if anyone want's my ./configure commands, I can post em. I intend to write a step on this Real Soon(tm) -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Live fast, die old, and make sure everyone knows you were there. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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On Monday 08 April 2002 10:48, Matthew Carpenter wrote: What are the caveats to compiling (or did you get SuSE RPMS)? 1. time. 2. dependencies 3. time I never use rpms if I can avoid it -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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Previously, Douglas J Hunley chose to write: On Friday 05 April 2002 22:09, Tim Wunder wrote: where does one download it? I pulled the whole damn drectory off the ftp site, and didn't find it. I passed '--enable-objprelink' to the ./configure, and it told me it couldn't find it. things appear to be quicker even without it though http://leon.bottou.com/objprelink/ Link was found with a 3 second search for objprelink on google :-) yeah, I thought about doing the google thing, but I figured since it was official it should be on the damn kde ftp site. oh well. I ain't recompiling all this crap Well, I don't think it's officially official, if ya know what I mean. There's even some question, as I understand it, about whether it's a good thing. I might get around to compiling 3.0 this weekend, but I just got done 2.2.2 and I wanna actually do some useful things on the PC (and in the yard and around the house...). I only compiled 2.2.2 to see if it would fix a problem I'd been having with kmix (and to see if I could actually do it...) and so far so good. Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.2 from source, Xfree86 4.1.0 8:00pm up 2 days, 21:35, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 23:09:03 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---snip--- ... but I just got done 2.2.2... Tim, did you make any compile notes or notice anything unusual that anyone would be interested in knowing about compiling the kde 2.2.2 sources? tips would be appreciated. I'd be interested in the details as I may be interested in trying the objprelink option with that version of source code. -- * * Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 11:33am up 24 days, 17:52, 4 users, load average: 0.05, 0.07, 0.07 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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Doug I am dl the srpms from redhat, is this a mistake or should I it like you did? I will do any way that really works. I use some kde apps but not the desktop. I installed the ew3.1.1 cd with kde 2.x and the system is having DCOP IPC problems. Having your script would be nice too. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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On Saturday 06 April 2002 08:28, Rick Sivernell wrote: Doug I am dl the srpms from redhat, is this a mistake or should I it like you did? I will do any way that really works. I use some kde apps but not the desktop. I installed the ew3.1.1 cd with kde 2.x and the system is having DCOP IPC problems. Having your script would be nice too. whatever you're most confortable with. SRPMS are fine. I sent the script offlist, right? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org What am I?... Flypaper for freaks! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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Previously, Douglas J Hunley chose to write: On Saturday 06 April 2002 08:28, Rick Sivernell wrote: Doug I am dl the srpms from redhat, is this a mistake or should I it like you did? I will do any way that really works. I use some kde apps but not the desktop. I installed the ew3.1.1 cd with kde 2.x and the system is having DCOP IPC problems. Having your script would be nice too. whatever you're most confortable with. SRPMS are fine. I sent the script offlist, right? No. ;-) You got it on your site anywhere? I wouldn't mind looking at it. Might even use it... Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.2 from source, Xfree86 4.1.0 12:00pm up 3 days, 13:35, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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On Saturday 06 April 2002 14:34, Tim Wunder wrote: No. ;-) You got it on your site anywhere? I wouldn't mind looking at it. Might even use it... sorry. gave it to somebody off-list. attached. I usually do the attached configure commands like so: ./configure whatever.|tee tmp.log and then review tmp.log. if all is well, then make checkinstall ldconfig -v (I use checkinstall to create rpms. if you use checkinstall make sure STRIP is off in the checkinstallrc file. I've seen it cause issues) -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org printk(VFS: Busy inodes after unmount. Self-destruct in 5 seconds. Have a nice day...\n); 2.3.99-pre8 /usr/src/linux/fs/super.c export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3 export KDEDIR=/opt/kde3 export CXXFLAGS=-O3 -march=i686 -mcpu=i686 export CPPFLAGS=-O3 -march=i686 -mcpu=i686 export CFLAGS=-O3 -march=i686 -mcpu=i686 PATH2=`echo $PATH|sed 's/kde2/kde3/g'` export PATH=$PATH2 qt notes: tar zxvf qt-x11-free-3.x.x mv qt-x11-free-3.x.x /usr/lib cd /usr/lib ln -s qt-x11-free-3.x.x qt3 ./configure -prefix /usr/lib/qt3 -release -shared -qt-gif -system-zlib -no-g++-exceptions -thread -system-libpng -system-libjpeg -system-libmng -no-nas-sound -sm -xinerama -xrender -xft -no-tablet -xkb arts ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR kdelibs ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --enable-mitshm --enable-dnotify --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR --with-ssl-dir=/usr/ssl/ kdebase ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR --with-pam=yes --with-shadow --with-ssl-dir=/usr/ssl/ --with-x kdeadmin ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR --with-rpm --with-pam --with-shadow kdebindings ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerams --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR kdegames ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR kdegraphics ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR kdemultimedia ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR --with-x kdenetwork ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR kdepim ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-share --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR kdeaddons ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR kdesdk ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR kdetoys ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR kdeutils ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR kdoc ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR kdeartwork ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR --without-dpms kdeedu ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug -enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR kdevelop ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR kdeil8n* ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared --enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR
Re: kde3 rocks!
On Saturday 06 April 2002 14:22, Rick Sivernell wrote: got your post and doing it the way you did it. If fot notin else the experimce. Just learning tons of stuff and your src site is great too. source site? oh. http://hunley.homeip.net/linux_sources/ ? thanks! it gets regenerated every night, BTW. you never know when I add stuff :) -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org printk(; corrupted filesystem mounted read/write - your computer will explode within 20 seconds ... but you wanted it so!\n); 2.4.3 linux/fs/hpfs/super.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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Previously, Douglas J Hunley chose to write: On Saturday 06 April 2002 14:34, Tim Wunder wrote: No. ;-) You got it on your site anywhere? I wouldn't mind looking at it. Might even use it... sorry. gave it to somebody off-list. attached. I usually do the attached configure commands like so: ./configure whatever.|tee tmp.log and then review tmp.log. if all is well, then make checkinstall ldconfig -v So you compile as root? I've been compiling everything as user, then su'ing to root to run checkinstall... (I use checkinstall to create rpms. if you use checkinstall make sure STRIP is off in the checkinstallrc file. I've seen it cause issues) I'll look into this, I recall you mentioning something about this a while back. I've pretty much left checkinstallrc alone (I just installed it on my home box, prior to compiling KDE 2.2.2. Installed it at work a while ago). Questions: Why specify configure flags when they're the default? For qt, you've specified -release -shared -no-nas-sound -sm -xinerama -xrender -xft -no-tablet and -xkb, all of which seem to be the default, according to ./configure --help Also, you've listed qt-x11-free-3.x.x. I'd downloaded qt-copy-3.0.3, what's the difference? You've placed qt3 in /usr/lib. Is that just personal preference? Why not /usr/local/lib, or /opt? Why --prefix=$KDEDIR ... --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR, again, aren't these the default? Regards, Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.2 from source, Xfree86 4.1.0 4:00pm up 3 days, 17:35, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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On Saturday 06 April 2002 18:12, Tim Wunder wrote: So you compile as root? I've been compiling everything as user, then su'ing to root to run checkinstall... I do everything as root! Keeps me on my toes. (and please, leave the oh my god. dont do that argument in the grave everyone) I'll look into this, I recall you mentioning something about this a while back. I've pretty much left checkinstallrc alone (I just installed it on my home box, prior to compiling KDE 2.2.2. Installed it at work a while ago). It's neat to customize it. You can have it build RPMS by default and then do 'checkinstall -y' and it will answer all the question for you. definately want to turn off the STRIP cause it sometimes can't tell the file it's stripping is a library. that can be bad Why specify configure flags when they're the default? For qt, you've specified -release -shared -no-nas-sound -sm -xinerama -xrender -xft -no-tablet and -xkb, all of which seem to be the default, according to ./configure --help I'm anal. Sure, the help output says it's the default, but does the code actually do that? also, what if it detects those libs? does the default change. Also, you've listed qt-x11-free-3.x.x. I'd downloaded qt-copy-3.0.3, what's the difference? name of the tarball You've placed qt3 in /usr/lib. Is that just personal preference? Why not /usr/local/lib, or /opt? I consider it a system lib. Hence, /usr/lib. I hate the whole /usr/local abomination. I only put self-contained apps in /opt. Why --prefix=$KDEDIR ... --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR, again, aren't these the default? anal. I figure, why take the chance? I type the command out once, then just keep pulling it back from the shell history... -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org She's gone! Oh my God, she used me. I was used. I was used! Cool ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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Scribbling feverishly on April 06, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: [snippety hack] I do everything as root! Keeps me on my toes. Oh my God. Don't do that! ;-) Kurt -- You will gain money by a fattening action. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 19:21:27 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I anal too, I follow in the wake of Doug Kurt David Net LLamma who are the Master Gurrus here, this makes me look good too. hehehehe look like a guru all you havre to do is follow them around and pick up the tidbits Grin cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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Scribbling feverishly on April 06, Rick Sivernell managed to emit: On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 19:21:27 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I anal too, I follow in the wake of Doug Kurt David Net LLamma who are the Master Gurrus here, this makes me look good too. Master Gurrus? Hardly. More like Master Learner by Breaking. Some have forgotten more than I know. hehehehe look like a guru all you havre to do is follow them around and pick up the tidbits Grin Just make sure them tidbits are actually droppings. ;-) Kurt -- The time is right to make new friends. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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you merely talked about the features. what about performance and footprint? Douglas J Hunley wrote: I spent all day yesterday compiling, tweaking, etc. I must say, for KDE, I'm impressed! -- May the Force and Farce be with Linux and you. Join the kids in http://www.linux-sxs.org news://news.hkpcug.org ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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On Friday 05 April 2002 11:49, toylet.linux[¤pª±·N] wrote: you merely talked about the features. what about performance and footprint? feels a hell of a lot faster. compiled for 686, with all bells and whistles, /opt/kde3 is 238M. no kde apps show up in top on this system. adding up all kde processes, looks like 188372 bytes of RSS. not too bad. I have liquid running, kmail, ksystemguard, kcalc, konqueror, grkellm (managed by kwin) and two xterms (also managed by kwin). -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org panic(esp_handle: current_SC == penguin within interrupt!); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/esp.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spent all day yesterday compiling, tweaking, etc. I must say, for KDE, I'm impressed! the new kmail is pretty sweet too.. right click on an email, choose create filter, pick 'mailing list header' and it creates a filter with the values for the mailing list header! you just have to tell it what you want it do with the email! and the improvements in konqui are nice too! Care to elaborate a bit? Come on, make the tough sell! ;) Is it as slow/fast as KDE-1.x? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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On Friday 05 April 2002 12:21, Net Llama wrote: Care to elaborate a bit? Come on, make the tough sell! ;) Is it as slow/fast as KDE-1.x? I don't remember kde 1.x speed but it definately feels faster than 2.x what else you want to know? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org And your cry-baby whiny-butt opinion would be...? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 05 April 2002 12:21, Net Llama wrote: Care to elaborate a bit? Come on, make the tough sell! ;) Is it as slow/fast as KDE-1.x? I don't remember kde 1.x speed but it definately feels faster than 2.x what else you want to know? does it suck? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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On Friday 05 April 2002 13:02, Net Llama wrote: does it suck? not for me -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org printk(CPU[|d]: Giving pardon to imprisoned penguins\n, smp_processor_id()); 2.4.8 arch/sparc64/kernel/smp.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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On Friday 05 April 2002 5:39 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: I spent all day yesterday compiling, tweaking, etc. I must say, for KDE, I'm impressed! the new kmail is pretty sweet too.. right click on an email, choose create filter, pick 'mailing list header' and it creates a filter with the values for the mailing list header! you just have to tell it what you want it do with the email! and the improvements in konqui are nice too! And don't forget the squirming icons! Thankfully optional. Pam -- Linux Step by Step (UK mirror): http://www.pam.roberts.btinternet.co.uk/sxs/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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On Friday 05 April 2002 13:11, Pam R wrote: And don't forget the squirming icons! Thankfully optional. which? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org #ifdef STUPIDLY_TRUST_BROKEN_PCMD_ENA_BIT 2.4.0-test2 /usr/src/linux/drivers/ide/cmd640.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: kde3 rocks!
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:11:50PM +0100, Pam R wrote: On Friday 05 April 2002 5:39 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: I spent all day yesterday compiling, tweaking, etc. I must say, for KDE, I'm impressed! the new kmail is pretty sweet too.. right click on an email, choose create filter, pick 'mailing list header' and it creates a filter with the values for the mailing list header! you just have to tell it what you want it do with the email! and the improvements in konqui are nice too! And don't forget the squirming icons! Thankfully optional. Liquid? Squirming icons? Sounds like they're trying to compete with the PowerMac G4 I've been working on for the last couple of weeks. BTW: I've got rpm, XFree86, and quite a few other things working under OS X (darwin), and it's a pretty nice system. Once I get the adapter to plug into my KVM switch so I don't have to juggle keyboards and mice to switch back and forth to my Linux boxen, it will be much easier to live with. Darwin is interesting. It's been a long time since I've worked with a BSD system, and it's a bit like coming home to find my wife's moved all the furniture. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Never do your enemy a minor injury.'' - Machiavelli ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: kde3 rocks!
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 13:04:19 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 05 April 2002 13:02, Net Llama wrote: does it suck? not for me KDE 3.0 only sucks if you can't tolerate a r e a l l y b i g h u m o n g o u s desktop. It starts much quicker than 2.2.2, and I haven't found any problems with it yet. I'm still a sylpheed and mozilla user. I don't have much use for most of the icons. Irritating is the fact that the icons don't name themselves if you hover over them with the mouse; there's probably some control for this. I do like the trick on the active panels display that all like named programs are stored in one tab. When you select the tab, you get multiple choices. I'm still waiting for the next koffice release to see if it's any better. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? Gentoo_rc6-15 2.4.19pre - KDE 3.0 + sylpheed + mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: kde3 rocks!
On Friday 05 April 2002 20:42, Jerry McBride wrote: Did you get a chance to play with objprelink? where does one download it? I pulled the whole damn drectory off the ftp site, and didn't find it. I passed '--enable-objprelink' to the ./configure, and it told me it couldn't find it. things appear to be quicker even without it though -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org What happens if you get scared half to death twice? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: kde3 rocks!
Previously, Douglas J Hunley chose to write: On Friday 05 April 2002 20:42, Jerry McBride wrote: Did you get a chance to play with objprelink? where does one download it? I pulled the whole damn drectory off the ftp site, and didn't find it. I passed '--enable-objprelink' to the ./configure, and it told me it couldn't find it. things appear to be quicker even without it though http://leon.bottou.com/objprelink/ Link was found with a 3 second search for objprelink on google :-) -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.2 from source, Xfree86 4.1.0 8:00pm up 2 days, 21:35, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: kde3 rocks!
On Friday 05 April 2002 22:09, Tim Wunder wrote: where does one download it? I pulled the whole damn drectory off the ftp site, and didn't find it. I passed '--enable-objprelink' to the ./configure, and it told me it couldn't find it. things appear to be quicker even without it though http://leon.bottou.com/objprelink/ Link was found with a 3 second search for objprelink on google :-) yeah, I thought about doing the google thing, but I figured since it was official it should be on the damn kde ftp site. oh well. I ain't recompiling all this crap -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org You're not paranoid. The world _IS_ fscked. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.