Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-11 Thread Federico Voges

Hi,

I've finally compiled KDE3 on COL 3.1.1 Workstation. I'm attaching a
quick  dirtyTM script I've used to compile it. 
It will compile QT3, libxml, libpcre, libxlst and KDE. Also, it uses
objprelink and checkinstall (so you endup with the RPMS).

I think it could be a nice addition to the step Doug's writing.

I've made it using comments and tips from this list. 

Please note that I've disabled java in kdebindings (due to the bug
mentioned by Tim).


Oh, BTW: To those willing to compile Liquid 0.9.2, it should be noted
that before doing ./configure  make  make install, you should do:
make -f Makefile.cvs

There's no README/doc/anything telling how to build this beast. So, it
may be puzzling to some inexperienced people.


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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-11 Thread Federico Voges

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Hi,

I forgot to mention that the script is somewhat intelligent: if you
cancel, it won't recompile everything.

Besides that, it also generates a configure/make log for each package.


On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:18:15 -0300, Federico Voges wrote:

Hi,

I've finally compiled KDE3 on COL 3.1.1 Workstation. I'm attaching a
quick  dirtyTM script I've used to compile it. 
It will compile QT3, libxml, libpcre, libxlst and KDE. Also, it uses
objprelink and checkinstall (so you endup with the RPMS).

I think it could be a nice addition to the step Doug's writing.

I've made it using comments and tips from this list. 

Please note that I've disabled java in kdebindings (due to the bug
mentioned by Tim).


Oh, BTW: To those willing to compile Liquid 0.9.2, it should be noted
that before doing ./configure  make  make install, you should do:
make -f Makefile.cvs

There's no README/doc/anything telling how to build this beast. So, it
may be puzzling to some inexperienced people.


Federico Voges
Socio gerente

Intrasoft
Malabia 2137 14 A
(1425) Buenos Aires
Argentina

Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-11 Thread Jerry McBride

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:24:02 -0300 Federico Voges
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I forgot to mention that the script is somewhat intelligent: if you
 cancel, it won't recompile everything.
 
 Besides that, it also generates a configure/make log for each package.
 
 

Thank you. KDE3.0 will be one of my upcomming projects and your script is
most welcomed.

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-08 Thread Matthew Carpenter

What are the caveats to compiling (or did you get SuSE RPMS)?

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 13:04:19 -0500
Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 05 April 2002 13:02, Net Llama wrote:
  does it suck?
 
 not for me
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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-08 Thread Matthew Carpenter

Please.  I'd like to see it.

Then if anyone would like to host these and any other COL3.1.x RPMs, I
would like to supply them.  I simply don't have to online-space to take
advantage of (yet?).


On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 21:39:52 -0500
Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 05 April 2002 21:19, Rick Sivernell wrote:
I thought about downloading for ew3.1.1 and heard all of the horror
  stories. What does it really take to build the srpms. Has anyone built
  a script to automake them?
 
 I build from source, and then make my own rpms. if anyone want's my 
 ./configure commands, I can post em.
 I intend to write a step on this Real Soon(tm)
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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-08 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Monday 08 April 2002 10:48, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
 What are the caveats to compiling (or did you get SuSE RPMS)?

1. time.
2. dependencies
3. time

I never use rpms if I can avoid it
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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-06 Thread Tim Wunder

Previously, Douglas J Hunley chose to write:
 On Friday 05 April 2002 22:09, Tim Wunder wrote:
   where does one download it? I pulled the whole damn drectory off the
   ftp site, and didn't find it. I passed '--enable-objprelink' to the
   ./configure, and it told me it couldn't find it. things appear to be
   quicker even without it though
 
  http://leon.bottou.com/objprelink/
  Link was found with a 3 second search for objprelink on google :-)

 yeah, I thought about doing the google thing, but I figured since it was
 official it should be on the damn kde ftp site. oh well. I ain't
 recompiling all this crap

Well, I don't think it's officially official, if ya know what I mean. 
There's even some question, as I understand it, about whether it's a good 
thing.

I might get around to compiling 3.0 this weekend, but I just got done 2.2.2 
and I wanna actually do some useful things on the PC (and in the yard and 
around the house...). I only compiled 2.2.2 to see if it would fix a problem 
I'd been having with kmix (and to see if I could actually do it...) and so 
far so good.

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-06 Thread Jerry McBride

On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 23:09:03 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

---snip---

... but I just got done  2.2.2...

Tim, did you make any compile notes or notice anything unusual that anyone
would be interested in knowing about compiling the kde 2.2.2 sources? tips
would be appreciated.

I'd be interested in the details as I may be interested in trying the
objprelink option with that version of source code.


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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-06 Thread Rick Sivernell

Doug

   I am dl the srpms from redhat, is this a mistake or should I 
it like you did? I will do any way that really works. I use some 
kde apps but not the desktop. I installed the ew3.1.1 cd with kde 2.x
and the system is having DCOP  IPC problems. Having your script 
would be nice too.

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-06 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Saturday 06 April 2002 08:28, Rick Sivernell wrote:
 Doug

I am dl the srpms from redhat, is this a mistake or should I
 it like you did? I will do any way that really works. I use some
 kde apps but not the desktop. I installed the ew3.1.1 cd with kde 2.x
 and the system is having DCOP  IPC problems. Having your script
 would be nice too.

whatever you're most confortable with. SRPMS are fine. I sent the script 
offlist, right?
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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-06 Thread Tim Wunder

Previously, Douglas J Hunley chose to write:
 On Saturday 06 April 2002 08:28, Rick Sivernell wrote:
  Doug
 
 I am dl the srpms from redhat, is this a mistake or should I
  it like you did? I will do any way that really works. I use some
  kde apps but not the desktop. I installed the ew3.1.1 cd with kde 2.x
  and the system is having DCOP  IPC problems. Having your script
  would be nice too.

 whatever you're most confortable with. SRPMS are fine. I sent the script
 offlist, right?

No. ;-)
You got it on your site anywhere? I wouldn't mind looking at it. Might even 
use it...

Tim

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-06 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Saturday 06 April 2002 14:34, Tim Wunder wrote:
 No. ;-)
 You got it on your site anywhere? I wouldn't mind looking at it. Might even
 use it...

sorry. gave it to somebody off-list. attached.
I usually do the attached configure commands like so:
./configure whatever.|tee tmp.log

and then review tmp.log. if all is well, then
make  checkinstall  ldconfig -v

(I use checkinstall to create rpms. if you use checkinstall make sure STRIP is 
off in the checkinstallrc file. I've seen it cause issues)

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export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3
export KDEDIR=/opt/kde3
export CXXFLAGS=-O3 -march=i686 -mcpu=i686
export CPPFLAGS=-O3 -march=i686 -mcpu=i686
export CFLAGS=-O3 -march=i686 -mcpu=i686

PATH2=`echo $PATH|sed 's/kde2/kde3/g'`
export PATH=$PATH2

qt notes:
tar zxvf qt-x11-free-3.x.x
mv qt-x11-free-3.x.x /usr/lib
cd /usr/lib
ln -s qt-x11-free-3.x.x qt3
./configure -prefix /usr/lib/qt3 -release -shared -qt-gif -system-zlib 
-no-g++-exceptions -thread -system-libpng -system-libjpeg -system-libmng -no-nas-sound 
-sm -xinerama -xrender -xft -no-tablet -xkb

arts
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR

kdelibs
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --enable-mitshm --enable-dnotify --with-xinerama 
--with-qt-dir=$QTDIR --with-ssl-dir=/usr/ssl/

kdebase
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR --with-pam=yes --with-shadow 
--with-ssl-dir=/usr/ssl/ --with-x

kdeadmin
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR --with-rpm --with-pam 
--with-shadow 

kdebindings
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerams --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR

kdegames
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR

kdegraphics
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR

kdemultimedia
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR --with-x

kdenetwork
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR

kdepim
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-share 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR

kdeaddons
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR

kdesdk
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR

kdetoys
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR 

kdeutils
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR 

kdoc
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR

kdeartwork
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR --without-dpms

kdeedu
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug -enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR

kdevelop
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR

kdeil8n*
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR --disable-debug --enable-final --enable-shared 
--enable-objprelink --with-xinerama --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR



Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-06 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Saturday 06 April 2002 14:22, Rick Sivernell wrote:
 got your post and doing it the way you did it. If fot notin else the
 experimce. Just learning tons of stuff and your src site is great too.

source site? oh. http://hunley.homeip.net/linux_sources/ ?
thanks! it gets regenerated every night, BTW. you never know when I add stuff 
:)
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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-06 Thread Tim Wunder

Previously, Douglas J Hunley chose to write:
 On Saturday 06 April 2002 14:34, Tim Wunder wrote:
  No. ;-)
  You got it on your site anywhere? I wouldn't mind looking at it. Might
  even use it...

 sorry. gave it to somebody off-list. attached.
 I usually do the attached configure commands like so:
 ./configure whatever.|tee tmp.log

 and then review tmp.log. if all is well, then
 make  checkinstall  ldconfig -v


So you compile as root? I've been compiling everything as user, then su'ing 
to root to run checkinstall...

 (I use checkinstall to create rpms. if you use checkinstall make sure STRIP
 is off in the checkinstallrc file. I've seen it cause issues)

I'll look into this, I recall you mentioning something about this a while 
back. I've pretty much left checkinstallrc alone (I just installed it on my 
home box, prior to compiling KDE 2.2.2. Installed it at work a while ago).

Questions:
Why specify configure flags when they're the default? For qt, you've 
specified -release -shared -no-nas-sound -sm -xinerama -xrender -xft 
-no-tablet  and -xkb, all of which seem to be the default, according to 
./configure --help

Also, you've listed qt-x11-free-3.x.x. I'd downloaded qt-copy-3.0.3, what's 
the difference?

You've placed qt3 in /usr/lib. Is that just personal preference? Why not 
/usr/local/lib, or /opt?

Why --prefix=$KDEDIR ... --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR, again, aren't these the 
default?

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-06 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Saturday 06 April 2002 18:12, Tim Wunder wrote:
 So you compile as root? I've been compiling everything as user, then su'ing
 to root to run checkinstall...

I do everything as root!
Keeps me on my toes.

(and please, leave the oh my god. dont do that argument in the grave 
everyone)

 I'll look into this, I recall you mentioning something about this a while
 back. I've pretty much left checkinstallrc alone (I just installed it on my
 home box, prior to compiling KDE 2.2.2. Installed it at work a while ago).

It's neat to customize it. You can have it build RPMS by default and then do 
'checkinstall -y' and it will answer all the question for you. definately 
want to turn off the STRIP cause it sometimes can't tell the file it's 
stripping is a library. that can be bad

 Why specify configure flags when they're the default? For qt, you've
 specified -release -shared -no-nas-sound -sm -xinerama -xrender -xft
 -no-tablet  and -xkb, all of which seem to be the default, according to
 ./configure --help

I'm anal. Sure, the help output says it's the default, but does the code 
actually do that? also, what if it detects those libs? does the default 
change.


 Also, you've listed qt-x11-free-3.x.x. I'd downloaded qt-copy-3.0.3, what's
 the difference?

name of the tarball


 You've placed qt3 in /usr/lib. Is that just personal preference? Why not
 /usr/local/lib, or /opt?

I consider it a system lib. Hence, /usr/lib. I hate the whole /usr/local 
abomination. I only put self-contained apps in /opt.


 Why --prefix=$KDEDIR ... --with-qt-dir=$QTDIR, again, aren't these the
 default?

anal. I figure, why take the chance? I type the command out once, then just 
keep pulling it back from the shell history...

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-06 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on April 06, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit:

[snippety hack]

 I do everything as root!
 Keeps me on my toes.

Oh my God. Don't do that!

;-)

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-06 Thread Rick Sivernell

On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 19:21:27 -0500
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I guess I anal too, I follow in the wake of Doug Kurt David Net LLamma
who are the Master Gurrus here, this makes me look good too.
 hehehehe look like a guru  all you havre to do is follow them around
and pick up the tidbits Grin

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-06 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on April 06, Rick Sivernell managed to emit:
 On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 19:21:27 -0500
 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I guess I anal too, I follow in the wake of Doug Kurt David Net LLamma
 who are the Master Gurrus here, this makes me look good too.

Master Gurrus? Hardly. More like Master Learner by Breaking.
Some have forgotten more than I know.

  hehehehe look like a guru  all you havre to do is follow them around
 and pick up the tidbits Grin

Just make sure them tidbits are actually droppings. ;-)

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread =?x-user-defined?q?toylet=2Elinux=5B=A4p=AA=B1=B7N=5D?=

you merely talked about the features. what about performance and
footprint?

Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 
 I spent all day yesterday compiling, tweaking, etc.
 I must say, for KDE, I'm impressed!

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Friday 05 April 2002 11:49, toylet.linux[¤pª±·N] wrote:
 you merely talked about the features. what about performance and
 footprint?

feels a hell of a lot faster. compiled for 686, with all bells and whistles, 
/opt/kde3 is 238M.

no kde apps show up in top on this system. adding up all kde processes, looks 
like 188372 bytes of RSS. not too bad. I have liquid running, kmail, 
ksystemguard, kcalc, konqueror, grkellm (managed by kwin) and two xterms 
(also managed by kwin).
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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Net Llama

--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I spent all day yesterday compiling, tweaking, etc.
 I must say, for KDE, I'm impressed!
 the new kmail is pretty sweet too.. right click on an email, choose
 create 
 filter, pick 'mailing list header' and it creates a filter with the
 values 
 for the mailing list header! you just have to tell it what you want it
 do 
 with the email!
 and the improvements in konqui are nice too!

Care to elaborate a bit?  Come on, make the tough sell!  ;)

Is it as slow/fast as KDE-1.x?

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Friday 05 April 2002 12:21, Net Llama wrote:
 Care to elaborate a bit?  Come on, make the tough sell!  ;)

 Is it as slow/fast as KDE-1.x?

I don't remember kde 1.x speed but it definately feels faster than 2.x
what else you want to know?
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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Net Llama

--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 05 April 2002 12:21, Net Llama wrote:
  Care to elaborate a bit?  Come on, make the tough sell!  ;)
 
  Is it as slow/fast as KDE-1.x?
 
 I don't remember kde 1.x speed but it definately feels faster than
 2.x
 what else you want to know?

does it suck?

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Friday 05 April 2002 13:02, Net Llama wrote:
 does it suck?

not for me
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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Pam R

On Friday 05 April 2002 5:39 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 I spent all day yesterday compiling, tweaking, etc.
 I must say, for KDE, I'm impressed!
 the new kmail is pretty sweet too.. right click on an email, choose create
 filter, pick 'mailing list header' and it creates a filter with the values
 for the mailing list header! you just have to tell it what you want it do
 with the email!
 and the improvements in konqui are nice too!

And don't forget the squirming icons! Thankfully optional.

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Friday 05 April 2002 13:11, Pam R wrote:
 And don't forget the squirming icons! Thankfully optional.

which?
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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Bill Campbell

On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:11:50PM +0100, Pam R wrote:
On Friday 05 April 2002 5:39 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 I spent all day yesterday compiling, tweaking, etc.
 I must say, for KDE, I'm impressed!
 the new kmail is pretty sweet too.. right click on an email, choose create
 filter, pick 'mailing list header' and it creates a filter with the values
 for the mailing list header! you just have to tell it what you want it do
 with the email!
 and the improvements in konqui are nice too!

And don't forget the squirming icons! Thankfully optional.

Liquid?  Squirming icons?  Sounds like they're trying to compete with the
PowerMac G4 I've been working on for the last couple of weeks.

BTW:  I've got rpm, XFree86, and quite a few other things working
under OS X (darwin), and it's a pretty nice system.  Once I get
the adapter to plug into my KVM switch so I don't have to juggle
keyboards and mice to switch back and forth to my Linux boxen, it
will be much easier to live with.

Darwin is interesting.  It's been a long time since I've worked
with a BSD system, and it's a bit like coming home to find my
wife's moved all the furniture.

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Collins

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 13:04:19 -0500 Douglas J Hunley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 05 April 2002 13:02, Net
Llama wrote:  does it suck?
 
 not for me

KDE 3.0 only sucks if you can't tolerate a r e a l l y  b i g  h u m o n
g o u s  desktop.  It starts much quicker than 2.2.2, and I haven't
found any problems with it yet.  I'm still a sylpheed and mozilla user.

I don't have much use for most of the icons.  Irritating is the fact
that the icons don't name themselves if you hover over them with the
mouse; there's probably some control for this.

I do like the trick on the active panels display that all like named
programs are stored in one tab.  When you select the tab, you get
multiple choices.  

I'm still waiting for the next koffice release to see if it's any
better.

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Friday 05 April 2002 20:42, Jerry McBride wrote:
 Did you get a chance to play with objprelink?

where does one download it? I pulled the whole damn drectory off the ftp site, 
and didn't find it. I passed '--enable-objprelink' to the ./configure, and it 
told me it couldn't find it. things appear to be quicker even without it 
though
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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Tim Wunder

Previously, Douglas J Hunley chose to write:
 On Friday 05 April 2002 20:42, Jerry McBride wrote:
  Did you get a chance to play with objprelink?

 where does one download it? I pulled the whole damn drectory off the ftp
 site, and didn't find it. I passed '--enable-objprelink' to the
 ./configure, and it told me it couldn't find it. things appear to be
 quicker even without it though

http://leon.bottou.com/objprelink/
Link was found with a 3 second search for objprelink on google :-)

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Re: kde3 rocks!

2002-04-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

On Friday 05 April 2002 22:09, Tim Wunder wrote:
  where does one download it? I pulled the whole damn drectory off the ftp
  site, and didn't find it. I passed '--enable-objprelink' to the
  ./configure, and it told me it couldn't find it. things appear to be
  quicker even without it though

 http://leon.bottou.com/objprelink/
 Link was found with a 3 second search for objprelink on google :-)

yeah, I thought about doing the google thing, but I figured since it was 
official it should be on the damn kde ftp site. oh well. I ain't 
recompiling all this crap
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