Re: Sound recording, playback - card, application?

2003-09-08 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 19:12:15 -0500
Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I got volunteered to be head sound man at our new church. After one 
 day it has become obvious we need something more sophisticated for 
 recording and playback of services than a simple cassette deck. So I 
 plan to put a Linux box in the sound room.
 
 Card: I need a sound card that will deliver good quality (similar to 
 say, 128kbps mp3) on recording and playback. It will need to take a 
 stereo input from our 18-channel sound board. Any recommendations?
 
 Software: Also, what software you anyone recommend for recording and 
 playback? Any reason I shouldn't just record to mp3?

audacity is nice. But I too am new to this. So, please post your
progress!


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Re: Sound recording, playback - card, application?

2003-09-08 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 18:03:12 -0700
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 well, originally yes, but usually all MP3s start off as WAVs and are then 
 converted to MP3s.

And, what is the actual format of music on a CD?

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Re: Sound recording, playback - card, application?

2003-09-08 Thread David A. Bandel
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 08:12:50 +0200
Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 18:03:12 -0700
 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  well, originally yes, but usually all MP3s start off as WAVs and are
  then converted to MP3s.
 
 And, what is the actual format of music on a CD?

.wav

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Re: Sound recording, playback - card, application?

2003-09-08 Thread Tim Wunder
On 9/8/2003 7:16 AM, someone claiming to be David A. Bandel wrote:
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 08:12:50 +0200
Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 18:03:12 -0700
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

well, originally yes, but usually all MP3s start off as WAVs and are
then converted to MP3s.
And, what is the actual format of music on a CD?


.wav

CDDA I believe is is more correct. .wav simply a lossless extraction of 
the data to a standard PC file format.

There's some info about that on the audiocd:/ i/o slave documentation 
found here:
http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/kioslave/audiocd.html

And on the cdparanoia pages here:
http://www.xiph.org/paranoia/faq.html
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Re: Sound recording, playback - card, application?

2003-09-08 Thread ronnie gauthier
.cda Compact Disk Audio

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 06:16:01 -0500 - David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Re: Sound recording, playback - card, application?

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 08:12:50 +0200
Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 18:03:12 -0700
 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  well, originally yes, but usually all MP3s start off as WAVs and are
  then converted to MP3s.
 
 And, what is the actual format of music on a CD?

.wav

Ciao,

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Re: Sound recording, playback - card, application?

2003-09-08 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 06:16:01 -0500
David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 08:12:50 +0200
 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 18:03:12 -0700
  Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
   well, originally yes, but usually all MP3s start off as WAVs and are
   then converted to MP3s.
  
  And, what is the actual format of music on a CD?
 
 .wav

Yep. So, hardly a Windows format. 


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Re: Sound recording, playback - card, application?

2003-09-08 Thread Tim Wunder
On 9/8/2003 9:53 AM, someone claiming to be Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 06:16:01 -0500
David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 08:12:50 +0200
Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 18:03:12 -0700
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

well, originally yes, but usually all MP3s start off as WAVs and are
then converted to MP3s.
And, what is the actual format of music on a CD?
.wav


Yep. So, hardly a Windows format. 


No, CD audio is *not* stored in WAV format, but rather CDDA (or just CDA).
http://www.sonicspot.com/guide/fileformatlist.html
http://www.xiph.org/paranoia/faq.html
The WAV file format was created by (or at least owned by) Microsoft and 
its main benefit is that CDA data can be stored without loss. That is 
not true of MP3 or OGG formats.

WAV is merely a defacto standard format for a lossless method of storing 
(and manipulating) audio data in files on PCs.

BTW, the first CD Audio disk was produced in the early 80's, 1982 - 
Billy Joel's 52nd Street, according to 
http://cassette.by.ru/history/compactdisc.htm, long before the time of 
Windows or any PC capable of storing 60 minutes of CD Audio.

Regards,
Tim
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Re: Sound recording, playback - card, application?

2003-09-07 Thread Net Llama!
On 09/07/03 17:12, Michael Hipp wrote:

I got volunteered to be head sound man at our new church. After one 
day it has become obvious we need something more sophisticated for 
recording and playback of services than a simple cassette deck. So I 
plan to put a Linux box in the sound room.

Card: I need a sound card that will deliver good quality (similar to 
say, 128kbps mp3) on recording and playback. It will need to take a 
stereo input from our 18-channel sound board. Any recommendations?
Just about any linux supported soundcard that's been sold within the past 5 
years can do that.

Software: Also, what software you anyone recommend for recording and 
playback? Any reason I shouldn't just record to mp3?
Unless you really need to have the recording available in real time, i 
might be less resource intensive to record in WAV format, and then convert 
to MP3 afterwards.  Of course if the box is something really well powered 
hardware wise, it won't matter much.

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Re: Sound recording, playback - card, application?

2003-09-07 Thread Michael Hipp
Net Llama! wrote:
Just about any linux supported soundcard that's been sold within the 
past 5 years can do that.
Thanks. The HCL for RH9 looks like this:

C-Media -- CM8338/CM8738; Creative Labs -- SoundBlaster 128 PCI, 
SoundBlaster Live!, SoundBlaster Live! Audigy; Crystal -- CS428X/CS46XX; 
ESS -- Maestro, Maestro2, Maestro3, Solo; Ensoniq -- AudioPCI ES1370, 
ES1371; Intel -- ICH, ICH2, ICH3, ICH4; Yamaha -- YMF724, 74x, 754; VIA 
-- VIA82c686, VIA8233, VIA8235

Any reason to prefer one of those over another?

Unless you really need to have the recording available in real time, i 
might be less resource intensive to record in WAV format, and then 
convert to MP3 afterwards.  Of course if the box is something really 
well powered hardware wise, it won't matter much.
Good point. It wouldn't have occurred to me since I've always thought of 
wav as a Windows thing.

Michael



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Re: Sound recording, playback - card, application?

2003-09-07 Thread Net Llama!
On 09/07/03 17:49, Michael Hipp wrote:

Net Llama! wrote:

Just about any linux supported soundcard that's been sold within the 
past 5 years can do that.


Thanks. The HCL for RH9 looks like this:

C-Media -- CM8338/CM8738; Creative Labs -- SoundBlaster 128 PCI, 
SoundBlaster Live!, SoundBlaster Live! Audigy; Crystal -- CS428X/CS46XX; 
ESS -- Maestro, Maestro2, Maestro3, Solo; Ensoniq -- AudioPCI ES1370, 
ES1371; Intel -- ICH, ICH2, ICH3, ICH4; Yamaha -- YMF724, 74x, 754; VIA 
-- VIA82c686, VIA8233, VIA8235

Any reason to prefer one of those over another?
I'd stay away from the C-Media stuff.  Its really crappy low end hardware. 
 Other than that, you should be fine.


Unless you really need to have the recording available in real time, i 
might be less resource intensive to record in WAV format, and then 
convert to MP3 afterwards.  Of course if the box is something really 
well powered hardware wise, it won't matter much.


Good point. It wouldn't have occurred to me since I've always thought of 
wav as a Windows thing.
well, originally yes, but usually all MP3s start off as WAVs and are then 
converted to MP3s.

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