Re: Windows (OT)
Was it Ray Russell who wrote on Wednesday 09 January 2002 20:19: Yes you can install both on the same drive. Do the NT4 install first then install Win 2000 into a different directory. Since the registries will be separate all applications will need to be installed under each OS. You can install the Applications into the same directories with no problems. Possible ...yes. Practical? No! Remember we're talking about two unstable time bombs here on the same partition, who undoubtedly don't expect the other to be there. Swap files? I would only do this for pure amusement - not if I wanted any serious productivity; windoze is the epitome of Murphy's Law If anything can possibly go wrong, it will, and at the most inconvenient time for it. Personally, where windoze is concerned, I also subscribe to Mrs. Murphy's Corollary: Murphy was a hopeless optimist! -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Experience is like a comb, that Life gives you - AFTER all your hair has fallen out! Is it possible to get Windows NT and 2000 to coexist on the same hard drive? I've heard that NT won't reside with another OS. TIA, Randy Donohoe ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast:SOLVED, so far
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:12:48PM -0700, Collins Richey wrote: I have a simple router, and the only thing I have to do is give the router the host name that @home/@attbi expects. The rest is lights and mirrors. That was the rub. I didn't know, and @HOME didn't tell me, that I needed to supply a hostname with my dhcpcd request. That consumed an evening with nothing but irritation to show for it. Well, it is 5:00am here, and nothing seems to have changed overnight in my ip addresses. So, either this went very smoothly or nothing at all happened. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: iptables 1.2.4
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:30:45 +0800 Chang [linuxism] [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the bitstream: do I need to make pending-patches before make patch-o-magic? The INSTALL/README seemed to suggest that... No. The pending-patches is a very small subset of patch-o-matic (not patch-o-magic). The most-of-pom target is a slightly larger subset. pending-patches: patches scheduled (and approved) for inclusion in the kernel most-of-pom: pending-patches plus experimental patches known to work and that don't collide with each other patch-o-matic: pending-patches plus most-of-pom plus all others. Be _very_ careful what you select here. In some cases, you'll be told which patches toast other patches, in some cases not. Also, some patches are _very_ alpha and may cause all kinds of unforseen problems. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [SLE] Linux Tutorials On-line or downloadable
Joshua Lee babbled on about: On Monday 07 January 2002 06:02 am, Shane Broomhall wrote: I am planning on moving from Windows 2000 to linux with in the next month. I have basic linux skills, but I am by no means a competent user. I am hoping that people on this list will be able to point me towards on-line or downloadable tutorials or books that will help me increase my knowledge. I probably already mentioned, but Rute is awesome. http://rute.sourceforge.net -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf LSD melts in your mind, not in your hand. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: any steps or pointers to setting up CVS?
John Hiemenz babbled on about: This will get down fairly soon, as neccessity is pushing me.. I am reading info found at http://www.unixtools.org/cvs/server-how-to.html at the moment. deal. send your crib sheets (no matter how good) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with my attention in the subject and I'll get it written up. btw, I saw something on freshmeat that is supposed to help run pserver in a secure fashion. can't recall the name though.. -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf Ahhh...I see the screw-up fairy has visited us again... ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: any steps or pointers to setting up CVS?
On Thursday 10 January 2002 09:33 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote : John Hiemenz babbled on about: This will get down fairly soon, as neccessity is pushing me.. I am reading info found at http://www.unixtools.org/cvs/server-how-to.html at the moment. deal. send your crib sheets (no matter how good) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with my attention in the subject and I'll get it written up. btw, I saw something on freshmeat that is supposed to help run pserver in a secure fashion. can't recall the name though.. tangs. I'll do a search over there as well. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
sorta-OTmy source dir and install notes
I've decided to make my local source repository and installation notes available both from the web (http://hunley.homeip.net/linux_sources/) and through rsync (rsync -r hunley.homeip.net::source) for those who are interested. So what? you say.. I try to keep my Linux boxen fairly up to date, and I always try to install things according to the LSB (or according to the distro, whichever makes more sense to me). And because I have better things to use my brain cells on, I keep notes. Granted, they may just be little notes, but still. People have told me in the past that they found my stuff useful. Use it if you want, ignore it if you want -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf printk(ufs_read_super: fscking Sun blows me\n); 2.0.38 /usr/src/linux/fs/ufs/ufs_super.c ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Windows (OT)
On Thursday 10 January 2002 10:27 am, you wrote: Randy babbled on about: Is it possible to get Windows NT and 2000 to coexist on the same hard drive? I've heard that NT won't reside with another OS. TIA, no offense to anyone, but unless you also have linux on that machine, this thread belongs on [EMAIL PROTECTED] or on a windows list. simply marking it as OT is not enough. Of course it has Linux on it (Mandrake 8.1), what good would it be without Linux? Randy Donohoe ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Terminal Emulation
That is exactly what I wish to do. I want to eliminate the need to install any client software. I don't need bells and whistles - just access via a web browser. Regards, Wil McGilvery Manager, Digital Media Lynch Technologies Inc. 416-744-7191 1-888-622-3729 416-744-0406 FAX www.lynchdigital.com -Original Message- From: John Hiemenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Terminal Emulation On Thursday 10 January 2002 08:35 am, Wil McGilvery wrote : I am looking at Tarantella to centralize access to one of our Unix servers. The people who are accessing this server are using a Terminal Emulation program in windoze which I would like to eliminate. Does any one know of any other good programs that I can look at? Regards, http://www.anzio.com http://www.omnicomtech.com/products/alphacom.html umm.. define 'good'. What features are you looking for? If you are using Tarantella, why not use the terminal access through Tarantella via the web browser? ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where is /etc/resolv.conf defined?
Joel Hammer wrote: Thanks. I have no idea about kernels and libraries, all just mystical C talk to me. I was asking this question because I wanted to understand if I had to rename my /etc/resolv.conf.dhcp file to /etc/resolv.conf after dhcpcd creates the latter file. I guess the answer would be yes, if I want to be sure I am using the current name servers. Since I use a caching name server, I don't think that i crucial. Joel A symlink should work well, too. That way dhcpcd always has its copy of the file as it expects, and apps that use resolv.conf have the latest version, too. Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where is /etc/resolv.conf defined?
Kurt Wall wrote: [...] glibc -- particularly, the resolver library and the NSS (Name Service Switch) facilities. Specifically, the file resolv/resolv.h defines the macro _PATH_RESCONF: #define _PATH_RESCONF /etc/resolv.conf Here's a question that came up in our study group. Do name lookups (name to IP mappings) get cached on a client machine (one without a nameserver)? Arp lookups (MAC to IP mappings) do, but what about DNS? My answer was that they don't. My reasoning was that name resolution is handled by glibc, so it's running in user space, so the results aren't available to other applications. I guess you could say that an application may cache the lookup, but if 2 applications use the same name there are 2 lookups done. Naturally this is easy to answer empirically, but I don't have all the network tools I'd like at the moment. Thanks! Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
Sir, I am rephrasing the thing. I have windows XP on one partition. I have Linux(SUSE 7.1, kernel 2.4) on another On windows partition there is a 16x CD-RW of Priya(a local company). I want this CDRW to work also with Linux as my ASUS CD-R is working. I was asking from where I will find the STEP x STEP tutorial for this. If I am still unclear you can mail me again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Net Llama Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE --- zohar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have also to install 16x CD-RW on Linux partition which is now only on my windows partition. Can you please say me where I have to go on the net for that. I'm not following you here. Do you need help installing Linux, setting up a CDRW in Linux, or something else entirely? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: any steps or pointers to setting up CVS?
John Hiemenz wrote: I come from many years of SCCS and want to try my hand at setting up a CVS server on one of our internal lans. Just thought I'd ask ahead of time to see if anyone else has done this and if there are items to be on the lookuot for.. besides my spelling ability All the links I've ever used for CVS are here: http://www.cvshome.org/docs/ look at the list under Learning about CVS, especially. pserver is the typical way to provide remote access to cvs, but I think it would be better to use ssh if it's available on the cvs box. You get better security (pserver encrypts passwords over the 'net, but trivially) and easier admin (you can use regular user accounts rather than a separate password file, because of the increased security). I haven't set up cvs to use ssh, but there is info for it on the above site. You use ssh as a replacement for rsh and it should be straightforward. Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: any steps or pointers to setting up CVS?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Just a note in case you're using eServer 2.3. The included CVS version doesn't work as a server. You'll need to download a newer version of CVS a install it. I don't know if this is specific to Caldera or the shipped cvs version. On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:05:46 -0600, John Hiemenz wrote: I come from many years of SCCS and want to try my hand at setting up a CVS server on one of our internal lans. Just thought I'd ask ahead of time to see if anyone else has done this and if there are items to be on the lookuot for.. besides my spelling ability ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPD3dDxRcJRaVKt4XEQJwuwCgr70dBtBjzDw4PWyagJDGnmo6f70AoL53 pf18v7iVvPGlhPzwLzjQu2wN =+vJq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Windows (OT)
Lee babbled on about: No need to get touchy. An occasional Microgreed question isn't going to destroy the list. And, there is an awful lot talent available here. As for the original question I would advise getting a copy of Partition and Bootmagic 5 or above. Set up two NT partitions and load the Microscruff OSs in them and use bootmagic to select which one will boot. It also comes in handy if you want to install a legitimate OS (Linux) on the same box with Gates' crash cookies. I wasn't getting touchy. I was simply informing the original post that there is a seperate list for non-linux questions. We've lost members in the past because the brief amount of time they were on the list their was more non-linux talk than there was linux talk. i enjoy (and even start) the occasional OT thread. I was just illustrating to the poster and other new members that we *do* have a forum where this thread is on-topic and not off-topic. -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf panic(huh?\n); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/kernel/smp.c ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Copying Boot disk.
Recently built a quad boot (Win98/Mandrake 8.0/W3.1b/SuSe 7.2) box. To keep down traffic congestion in the mbr I boot into the SuSe using a floppy boot disk. For safety's sake I want to make a few duplicate boot disks. No matter how I try to go about it I get an error message that says the floppy drive can't recognize the file system on the floppy boot disk, except in Win where the error messages claims that the floppy boot disk isn't formatted. How do you make a copy of a linux boot floppy in general and SuSe in particular. Lee ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Windows (OT)
Douglas J Hunley wrote: Lee babbled on about: No need to get touchy. An occasional Microgreed question isn't going to destroy the list. And, there is an awful lot talent available here. As for the original question I would advise getting a copy of Partition and Bootmagic 5 or above. Set up two NT partitions and load the Microscruff OSs in them and use bootmagic to select which one will boot. It also comes in handy if you want to install a legitimate OS (Linux) on the same box with Gates' crash cookies. I wasn't getting touchy. I was simply informing the original post that there is a seperate list for non-linux questions. We've lost members in the past because the brief amount of time they were on the list their was more non-linux talk than there was linux talk. i enjoy (and even start) the occasional OT thread. I was just illustrating to the poster and other new members that we *do* have a forum where this thread is on-topic and not off-topic. -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf panic(huh?\n); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/kernel/smp.c ___ I stand corrected. Lee Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Copying Boot disk.
- Original Message - From: Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:08 PM Subject: Copying Boot disk. Recently built a quad boot (Win98/Mandrake 8.0/W3.1b/SuSe 7.2) box. To keep down traffic congestion in the mbr I boot into the SuSe using a floppy boot disk. For safety's sake I want to make a few duplicate boot disks. No matter how I try to go about it I get an error message that says the floppy drive can't recognize the file system on the floppy boot disk, except in Win where the error messages claims that the floppy boot disk isn't formatted. How do you make a copy of a linux boot floppy in general and SuSe in particular. Lee ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users I have run into this problem, as well. I finally found out that the distro I was using, installed a Minix file system on the floppy before copying the boot data to the disk. YMMV. I think I was running a SuSE distro at the time. Seems to me they used the minix fs to save space on the floppy. If you are running SuSE 7.2 or 7.3 Pro, check the Reference Manual - look in the index for boot disks or rescue disks. Sorry I can't give you more specific information. OTOH, since you *are* running a recent SuSE distro, you should be able to make a duplicate in YaST 2. Look at YaST 2=Control Center=System, and then under boot disks or rescue disks - I'm kinda hazy on the last stop, there. HTH 73 de Glenn Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 135678 - since 1994 Amateur Radio Packeteer since 1988 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where is /etc/resolv.conf defined?
Scribbling feverishly on January 10, Dave Anselmi managed to emit: Kurt Wall wrote: [...] glibc -- particularly, the resolver library and the NSS (Name Service Switch) facilities. Specifically, the file resolv/resolv.h defines the macro _PATH_RESCONF: #define _PATH_RESCONF /etc/resolv.conf Here's a question that came up in our study group. Do name lookups (name to IP mappings) get cached on a client machine (one without a nameserver)? Arp lookups (MAC to IP mappings) do, but what about DNS? I suppose this is an implementation detail, but RFC1035 suggests that resolver libraries should cache all data: 7.4. Using the cache In general, we expect a resolver to cache all data which it receives in responses since it may be useful in answering future client requests. However, there are several types of data which should not be cached: - When several RRs of the same type are available for a particular owner name, the resolver should either cache them all or none at all. When a response is truncated, and a resolver doesn't know whether it has a complete set, it should not cache a possibly partial set of RRs. - Cached data should never be used in preference to authoritative data, so if caching would cause this to happen the data should not be cached. - The results of an inverse query should not be cached. ... In a similar vein, when a resolver has a set of RRs for some name in a response, and wants to cache the RRs, it should check its cache for already existing RRs. Depending on the circumstances, either the data in the response or the cache is preferred, but the two should never be combined. If the data in the response is from authoritative data in the answer section, it is always preferred. Kurt -- You will gain money by an immoral action. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
At 06:14 PM 1/10/2002 -0800, you wrote: Unless you have a really, really weird CDRW, it doesn't reside in an OS, its a physical device. Setting it up is the same exact process as you used to setup the CDR. If you don't mind me asking, why do you have 2 burners on the same box? That is perhaps he might be using wintendo programs that will write to more than one burner at a time. With discjuggler I can burn two CD's at the same time (two cdburners). I have a partition on my hard drive dedicated to CD burning. I use two HP 9100 series burners for this. Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: calling rz while in telnet
Actually they work great over IP. I use it frequently. Raymond Russell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Anselmi Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: calling rz while in telnet toylet.linuxism[¤pª±·N] wrote: and I shouldn't touch any key on the telnet session, right? Could I press ctrl-z to suspend the telnet process and do step 2 in the same session? I hit that ctrl-z by accident. And I don't know how to go back to the suspended telnet. When you suspend something with ctrl-z, it is given a job control number (usually 1 unless you have other background processes). Then you can type 'fg 1' to get it back (bring it to the foreground) or 'bg 1' to put it in the background (start running again as if you had run it with an at the end of the command). Can't help you with sz/rz. I haven't seen those used over IP before and I don't quite see how it could work. Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
