Re: Fwd: Miami Herald Editorial
On Thursday 13 September 2001 17:55, you wrote: Glenn Williams wrote: On Thursday 13 September 2001 14:48, you wrote: [snip] Later, we dropped atom bombs on Japan. After the atom bombing, the only sentiment expressed by Americans was joy that the war was over. If you were alive during this time, you sure as hell were NOT paying attention. With indignation, Glenn [snip] ...Skippy replied: I was alive then and aged 12, and like everyone else on the allied side we were just estatic that it was finally over, boy were we paying attention. I don't want to belabor this, but I also prefer not to be misunderstood. What I am trying to convey here, is that as a nation, we were deleriously happy the war finally ended. But that was not the only sentiment expressed by Americans. There was also a national feeling of sadness and despair that the lives of thousands of non-combatants were obliterated so quickly and summarily that in these times the event could be likened to pressing the delete key on a computer keyboard. I was 14 when General MacArthur accepted the surrender of the Japanese. I don't believe we owe the world an apology for using the bomb, but the memory of those times saddens me (and millions of other Americans) deeply. Glenn -- Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #135678 Powered by SuSE 7.2 Linux Professional ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Miami Herald Editorial
On Friday 14 September 2001 09:58, Bruce Marshall wrote: | Very well put. I've always wondered why we didn't give the | Japanese the 'demo' version firstas in: fire the bomb off | about 5 miles offshore where it would have done much less damage | but yet show its force. because a.) we only had two of them and b.) it took both to bring japan down, and c.) we were by no means certain that they would go off. this from my old friend richard feynman, who was part of the manhattan project (and who won a nobel prize in physics), who was by no means a war monger -- his best friend in the project was klaus fuchs -- but who went out of his way not to apologize. -- dep one day, you'll wish it was now. your wish has been granted. don't waste it. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Miami Herald Editorial
Bruce Marshall wrote: Very well put. I've always wondered why we didn't give the Japanese the 'demo' version firstas in: fire the bomb off about 5 miles offshore where it would have done much less damage but yet show its force. Snip The reason was that they would have to have detonated it close enough to Japan for its effects to be apparent and let the Japanese know it was coming. That would have meant some unpopulated part of Japan itself. At the time they were not that sure of the technology. They had only fired one off, the u239 bomb. While they were reasonably sure the u235 bomb would work, there were fears that the thing might not go off and we would be delivering the bomb and its technology to Japan. So they went for broke. The first one to demonstrate the horror of the bomb and the second to prove we had more than one (we had four). -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/14/01 09:56 + ++ Software company's new dress code -- another Law Suit. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Miami Herald Editorial
I forgot to mention. The Japanese still view Pearl Harbor as a victory. Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Miami Herald Editorial
On Thursday 13 September 2001 14:48, you wrote: [snip] Later, we dropped atom bombs on Japan. After the atom bombing, the only sentiment expressed by Americans was joy that the war was over. If you were alive during this time, you sure as hell were NOT paying attention. With indignation, Glenn -- Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #135678 Powered by SuSE 7.2 Linux Professional ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Miami Herald Editorial
Glenn Williams wrote: On Thursday 13 September 2001 14:48, you wrote: [snip] Later, we dropped atom bombs on Japan. After the atom bombing, the only sentiment expressed by Americans was joy that the war was over. If you were alive during this time, you sure as hell were NOT paying attention. With indignation, Glenn I was alive then and aged 12, and like everyone else on the allied side we were just estatic that it was finally over, boy were we paying attention. I also had a Stepfather, an Australian, who did not think that it went far enough, he was a victim of The Burma Road and Changi along with may English and Americans. There was a saying both in England and in America at the time that the only good German or Japanaese was a D**d one. Its now nealy 50 years since the end of that war, all that hatred has disapated with time, the great healer. I for one do not wish on anyone the horrors of warfare, having experinced it all too closeup. However I can also understand how people felt at the time; I can never look on FDR with anything but great admiration. Nuff said: I'll end my participation in all these discussions with something that was said on John Laws talkback programme a short time ago by a caller; This is a local station in Brisbane:: A brother and sister of mine died violently a few days ago in a terrorist attack in America. I had never met either of them, they were black, brown, yellow and white but I feel affinity and grieve; Rest in Peace -- Keith Antoine aka Skippy 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland, 4061, Australia PH: 61 7 33002161 Certified Professional Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall!! Insensible phone computer assistance a speciality. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
