Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-17 Thread David A. Bandel

On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:58:57 +
Dallam Wych <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream:


Dallam,

Would you mind turning off signatures for posting to the list?  Sylpheed
keeps popping up this annoying dialogue box: can't verify signature from
(?).

thanx,

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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-17 Thread Keith Antoine

On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:56,Pam R scribed:

> I had the same problem but 100% of the time when the list started up and I
> was mailing via my normal isp (btinternet.com) so I now use uklinux for all
> mails to the SxS lists and that works fine.
>
> Pam

I have two lousy choices with cable and the second is worse than I have.

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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-17 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 17, Pam R managed to emit:
> On Thursday 17 January 2002 2:51 am, burns wrote:
> > On January 16, 2002 03:34 pm, Dallam Wych wrote:
> > Knowing btinternet as I do, I can almost
> > > assure you that the trouble is on their end not yours. Their service
> > > seems to vary depending on what region of the country that you live
> > > in.
> > ...And as I recall from having lived in Herts, what day of the week it was.
> No, it's the phase of the moon that is critical.

No, no, no. You must hold your mouth properly. [sigh] How many times
do I have to tell people this!

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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-17 Thread Dallam Wych

On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 08:20:21PM +, Pam R wrote:

> Trying.

Good Luck Pam...Here's hoping there aren't to many leaves on the
phone lines :)
Regards,
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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-17 Thread Pam R

On Thursday 17 January 2002 2:51 am, burns wrote:
> On January 16, 2002 03:34 pm, Dallam Wych wrote:
> Knowing btinternet as I do, I can almost
>
> > assure you that the trouble is on their end not yours. Their service
> > seems to vary depending on what region of the country that you live
> > in.
>
> ...And as I recall from having lived in Herts, what day of the week it was.

No, it's the phase of the moon that is critical.

Pam (sending from btinternet)
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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-17 Thread Pam R

On Wednesday 16 January 2002 5:53 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> Pam R babbled on about:
> > was mailing via my normal isp (btinternet.com) so I now use uklinux for
> > all mails to the SxS lists and that works fine.
> >
> > Pam
>
>  to this thread using btinternet and see if issue still exists. thanks

Trying.

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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-16 Thread David A. Bandel

On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:47:55 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream:

> Hrmmmcan someone (Mike or Doug prolly) explain why there is no MX
> record here:
> 3. dig linux.nf

cause you didn't ask for it:

[david@tole david]$ dig linux.nf MX

; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> linux.nf MX 
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 3
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;  linux.nf, type = MX, class = IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
linux.nf.   3m11s IN MX 100 linux.nf.
linux.nf.   3m11s IN MX 200 mail.panamanow.net.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
linux.nf.   3m11s IN NS ns1.nf.
linux.nf.   3m11s IN NS ns2.nf.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
linux.nf.   3m11s IN A  204.210.228.123
mail.panamanow.net. 1H IN A 209.127.112.14
ns2.nf. 1d23h29m30s IN A  203.12.249.101

;; Total query time: 131 msec
;; FROM: tole.pananix.com to SERVER: default -- 209.127.112.13
;; WHEN: Wed Jan 16 22:18:49 2002
;; MSG SIZE  sent: 26  rcvd: 160

And panamanow.net is one of my (several) domain names.

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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-16 Thread Net Llama

Hrmmmcan someone (Mike or Doug prolly) explain why there is no MX
record here:
3. dig linux.nf
 
; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> linux.nf
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;  linux.nf, type = A, class = IN
 
;; ANSWER SECTION:
linux.nf.   5M IN A 204.210.228.123
 
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
linux.nf.   5M IN NSns2.nf.
linux.nf.   5M IN NSns1.nf.
 
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.nf. 5M IN A 203.12.249.100
ns2.nf. 5M IN A 203.12.249.101
 
;; Total query time: 584 msec
;; FROM: hal.sytes.net to SERVER: default -- 198.186.202.135
;; WHEN: Wed Jan 16 18:43:15 2002
;; MSG SIZE  sent: 26  rcvd: 110 

--- Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David A. Bandel babbled on about:
> > Doug, you still using my server as backup?  May not be a good idea
> for the
> > moment, at least not until the pending lawsuit against Cable &
> Wireless
> > Panama is resolved.  (They've been harrassing me -- or they're more
> > incompetent that even I imagined -- by dropping my line from time to
> > time).
> >
> > However, as long as I can _resolve_ the backup MX (which may be the
> > problem here), I should be queueing mail for linux.nf.
> >
> > > That possibly forged ip is the one I was assigned by @HOME. If you
> > > could forward this to the list, maybe someone could let me know
> how to
> > > solve this.
> >
> > Just means the reverse doesn't resolve to the name given.
> 
> honestly don't know. Mike does the DNS stuff. Mike?
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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-16 Thread burns

On January 16, 2002 03:34 pm, Dallam Wych wrote:
Knowing btinternet as I do, I can almost
> assure you that the trouble is on their end not yours. Their service
> seems to vary depending on what region of the country that you live
> in.

...And as I recall from having lived in Herts, what day of the week it was.
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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-16 Thread Dallam Wych

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 12:53:49PM -0500, Douglas J Hunley wrote:

>  to this thread using btinternet and see if issue still exists. thanks

Doug,
I am using btinternet and haven't had a problem with the few posts I
have made to this list. Knowing btinternet as I do, I can almost
assure you that the trouble is on their end not yours. Their service
seems to vary depending on what region of the country that you live
in.
Regards,
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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-16 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Pam R babbled on about:
> was mailing via my normal isp (btinternet.com) so I now use uklinux for all
> mails to the SxS lists and that works fine.
>
> Pam

 to this thread using btinternet and see if issue still exists. thanks
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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-16 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Keith Antoine babbled on about:
> There seems to be problem somewhere with the list server that is
> intermittant. I occasionally have mail returned as relaying denied, I then
> copy and resend, it then goes fine. No idea why either.

1 of 2 things:
1. DNS timeouts trying to resolve your host
2. you hit the incorrect secondary MX

working on them both
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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-16 Thread Douglas J Hunley

David A. Bandel babbled on about:
> Doug, you still using my server as backup?  May not be a good idea for the
> moment, at least not until the pending lawsuit against Cable & Wireless
> Panama is resolved.  (They've been harrassing me -- or they're more
> incompetent that even I imagined -- by dropping my line from time to
> time).
>
> However, as long as I can _resolve_ the backup MX (which may be the
> problem here), I should be queueing mail for linux.nf.
>
> > That possibly forged ip is the one I was assigned by @HOME. If you
> > could forward this to the list, maybe someone could let me know how to
> > solve this.
>
> Just means the reverse doesn't resolve to the name given.

honestly don't know. Mike does the DNS stuff. Mike?
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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-16 Thread Pam R

On Wednesday 16 January 2002 2:03 am, Keith Antoine wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:58,Douglas J Hunley scribed:
> > forwarded per Joel's request. He can receive mail from the list fine, but
> > whenever he tries to send to linux.nf he gets rejected with what's below.
> > anyone know how to help him?
>
> There seems to be problem somewhere with the list server that is
> intermittant. I occasionally have mail returned as relaying denied, I then
> copy and resend, it then goes fine. No idea why either.

I had the same problem but 100% of the time when the list started up and I 
was mailing via my normal isp (btinternet.com) so I now use uklinux for all 
mails to the SxS lists and that works fine.

Pam
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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-15 Thread Keith Antoine

On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:58,Douglas J Hunley scribed:
> forwarded per Joel's request. He can receive mail from the list fine, but
> whenever he tries to send to linux.nf he gets rejected with what's below.
> anyone know how to help him?

There seems to be problem somewhere with the list server that is intermittant.
I occasionally have mail returned as relaying denied, I then copy and resend, 
it then goes fine. No idea why either.

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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-15 Thread David A. Bandel

On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:58:46 -0500
Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream:

[snip]
> 
> 451 [EMAIL PROTECTED] reply: read error from linux.nf.
> 
> ... while talking to mail.panamanow.net.:
> >>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> <<< 550 5.7.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Relaying denied. IP name
> possibly forged [68.33.0.214]

Doug, you still using my server as backup?  May not be a good idea for the
moment, at least not until the pending lawsuit against Cable & Wireless
Panama is resolved.  (They've been harrassing me -- or they're more
incompetent that even I imagined -- by dropping my line from time to
time).

However, as long as I can _resolve_ the backup MX (which may be the
problem here), I should be queueing mail for linux.nf.

> 
> That possibly forged ip is the one I was assigned by @HOME. If you
> could forward this to the list, maybe someone could let me know how to
> solve this.

Just means the reverse doesn't resolve to the name given.

Ciao,

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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-15 Thread Tim Wunder

Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> forwarded per Joel's request. He can receive mail from the list fine, but 
> whenever he tries to send to linux.nf he gets rejected with what's below. 
> anyone know how to help him?
> 
> --  Forwarded Message  --
> 
> Subject: Need help to get back on the list
> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:27:57 -0500
> From: Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> I need help to get back on the linux step by step mailing list.
> Maybe you can relay this to the list or to the right person.  I had to
> change my ip address because of the @HOME troubles. Everything seems to
> be going well except I couldn't post to the linux list. I re-subscribed,
> but this is what I get in return mail now:
> 
> 451 [EMAIL PROTECTED] reply: read error from linux.nf.
> 
> ... while talking to mail.panamanow.net.:
> 
RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> 
> <<< 550 5.7.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Relaying denied. IP name possibly
> forged [68.33.0.214]
> 
> That possibly forged ip is the one I was assigned by @HOME. If you
> could forward this to the list, maybe someone could let me know how to
> solve this.
> 
> Thanks,
> Joel
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> ---
> 
> 

Joel,
Are you using your own box as the smtp server for sending mail? I'm not 
experiencing any problems and I'm using mail.twsn1.md.home.com as my 
smtp server (while at home, anyway).
Try setting up your mailer to use the old @home mail server as your smtp 
server and see if you can post.
HTH,
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Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-15 Thread Douglas J Hunley

forwarded per Joel's request. He can receive mail from the list fine, but 
whenever he tries to send to linux.nf he gets rejected with what's below. 
anyone know how to help him?

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Need help to get back on the list
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:27:57 -0500
From: Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I need help to get back on the linux step by step mailing list.
Maybe you can relay this to the list or to the right person.  I had to
change my ip address because of the @HOME troubles. Everything seems to
be going well except I couldn't post to the linux list. I re-subscribed,
but this is what I get in return mail now:

451 [EMAIL PROTECTED] reply: read error from linux.nf.

... while talking to mail.panamanow.net.:
>>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

<<< 550 5.7.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Relaying denied. IP name possibly
forged [68.33.0.214]

That possibly forged ip is the one I was assigned by @HOME. If you
could forward this to the list, maybe someone could let me know how to
solve this.

Thanks,
Joel

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

---

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