Re: mystery with mke2fs -j

2001-12-16 Thread Mike Andrew

everyone wrote about ext3

[snip]

It's time for an SxS folks, these questions are becoming very Faq, a simple
write up will answer 90% of them. Contribs please.



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Re: mystery with mke2fs -j

2001-12-14 Thread Collins Richey

On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:26:32 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Prior to making major updates to my system, I always clone my
 running
  system to a spare partition and verify that it boots and runs. 
 Most
  of the time this goes without a hitch, but occasionally I have
  difficulty reformatting the spare partitions.  I wonder if anyone
  knows why.
  
  Here''s the setup (my disk controllers are reversed hdab are
 cdrom,
  hdcd are disk
  /dev/hdd9   current boot partition (ext3)
  /dev/hdd10  current / partition (ext3) ca. 4.4gig
  /dev/hdd7   spare boot partition
  /dev/hdd8   spare /partition ca. 4.3 gig
  other bootable partitions on /dev/hdc
  
  I start out by formatting the spares
  mke2fs -j /dev/hdd8 no problem
  mke2fs -j /dev/hdd7 fails writing superblock (something about a
 short
  write)
  much screwing around including badblock tests on hdd7 (aok)
  all attempts fail
  reboot and the problem disappears - hdd7 formats ok
  clone completed and hdd7/8 made bootable (fstab altered, lilo
  updated)
  new clone boots and runs ok
  
  Any clue why sometimes I can't remake a fs over the top of an
 existing
  one?
 
 Most often, you need to perform a reboot when making changes to
 partition tables.  I believe that fdisk even warns you of this.
 

Yes, I know, but here no fdisk or change to partition tables, just
creting an empty fs - one works, one doesn't.


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Re: mystery with mke2fs -j

2001-12-14 Thread Net Llama

--- Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:26:32 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  --- Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Prior to making major updates to my system, I always clone my
  running
   system to a spare partition and verify that it boots and runs. 
  Most
   of the time this goes without a hitch, but occasionally I have
   difficulty reformatting the spare partitions.  I wonder if anyone
   knows why.
   
   Here''s the setup (my disk controllers are reversed hdab are
  cdrom,
   hdcd are disk
 /dev/hdd9   current boot partition (ext3)
 /dev/hdd10  current / partition (ext3) ca. 4.4gig
 /dev/hdd7   spare boot partition
 /dev/hdd8   spare /partition ca. 4.3 gig
 other bootable partitions on /dev/hdc
   
   I start out by formatting the spares
 mke2fs -j /dev/hdd8 no problem
 mke2fs -j /dev/hdd7 fails writing superblock (something about a
  short
   write)
 much screwing around including badblock tests on hdd7 (aok)
 all attempts fail
 reboot and the problem disappears - hdd7 formats ok
 clone completed and hdd7/8 made bootable (fstab altered, lilo
   updated)
 new clone boots and runs ok
   
   Any clue why sometimes I can't remake a fs over the top of an
  existing
   one?
  
  Most often, you need to perform a reboot when making changes to
  partition tables.  I believe that fdisk even warns you of this.
  
 
 Yes, I know, but here no fdisk or change to partition tables, just
 creting an empty fs - one works, one doesn't.

Hrmmm...what's the '-j' switch?  I can't find any reference to it in the
man page.

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Re: mystery with mke2fs -j

2001-12-14 Thread kwall

Net Llama wrote:
% --- Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[mondo snippage]

%  Yes, I know, but here no fdisk or change to partition tables, just
%  creting an empty fs - one works, one doesn't.
% 
% Hrmmm...what's the '-j' switch?  I can't find any reference to it in the
% man page.

-j creates a EXT3 journal file on the FS, thus creating an EXT3 FS.

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Re: mystery with mke2fs -j

2001-12-14 Thread R. Quenett

from Net Llama:

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hrmmm...what's the '-j' switch?  I can't find any reference to it 
  in the % man page.

man tune2fs?

  
  -j creates a EXT3 journal file on the FS, thus creating an EXT3 FS.
 
 Ahhh..that would explain why i couldn't find it.  No ext3 here, just
 XFS.

I believe it's been added recently.  On at least one system, I had to 
get a newer version of tune2fs.  On the older man page, -j wasn't 
listed (I presume it wasn't supported, either).

R

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Re: mystery with mke2fs -j

2001-12-14 Thread Keith Antoine

On Saturday 15 December 2001 04:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] enunciated:
 Net Llama wrote:
 % --- Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [mondo snippage]

 %  Yes, I know, but here no fdisk or change to partition tables, just
 %  creting an empty fs - one works, one doesn't.
 %
 % Hrmmm...what's the '-j' switch?  I can't find any reference to it in the
 % man page.

 -j creates a EXT3 journal file on the FS, thus creating an EXT3 FS.

 Kurt

Do you not have to call this with tune2fs -j /dev/hdxx ?

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Re: mystery with mke2fs -j

2001-12-14 Thread Keith Antoine

On Saturday 15 December 2001 06:33, Net Llama enunciated:

There was alao another problem with -j switch as I remember, the efsprogs had 
to be updated to at least 1.25 or something, see it inder Documenattion in 
/usr/src/linux. Also 2.4.16 was the first kernel to fully support ext3.

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Re: mystery with mke2fs -j

2001-12-14 Thread David A. Bandel

On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 08:01:51 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 15 December 2001 03:27, Net Llama enunciated:
 
   Yes, I know, but here no fdisk or change to partition tables, just
   creting an empty fs - one works, one doesn't.
 
  Hrmmm...what's the '-j' switch?  I can't find any reference to it in
the
  man page.
 
 Have no idea if this has any bearing, seeing it works on one and not the

 other.
 The -j switch is used by tune2fs to install a journel to the ext2 fs and

 enable it as ext3. I am unsure as i cannot find the switch as applied to
ext2.

and the answer is:
root:~# mke2fs -?
mke2fs 1.25 (20-Sep-2001)
mke2fs: invalid option -- ?
Usage: mke2fs [-c|-t|-l filename] [-b block-size] [-f fragment-size]
[-i bytes-per-inode] [-j] [-J journal-options] [-N
number-of-inodes]
[-m reserved-blocks-percentage] [-o creator-os] [-g
blocks-per-group]
[-L volume-label] [-M last-mounted-directory] [-O feature[,...]]
[-r fs-revision] [-R raid_opts] [-qvSV] device [blocks-count]

the -j option for mke2fs debutted in 1.20.  Caldera has 1.19.

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Re: mystery with mke2fs -j

2001-12-14 Thread R. Quenett

from Net Llama:

 The command he was running was mke2fs not tune2fs.

-k, sorry, -j_ust trying to help.:)

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Re: mystery with mke2fs -j

2001-12-14 Thread Collins Richey

On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 08:03:05 +1000 Keith Antoine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 15 December 2001 04:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] enunciated:
  Net Llama wrote:
  % --- Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  [mondo snippage]
 
  %  Yes, I know, but here no fdisk or change to partition tables,
 just
  %  creting an empty fs - one works, one doesn't.
  %
  % Hrmmm...what's the '-j' switch?  I can't find any reference to
 it in the
  % man page.
 
  -j creates a EXT3 journal file on the FS, thus creating an EXT3
 FS.
 
  Kurt
 
 Do you not have to call this with tune2fs -j /dev/hdxx ?
 

Nope. mke2fs -j /dev/xxx works aok.  I do use tune2fs -c 0 -i 0
/dev/xxx as soon as it has been made so that I won't ever hear from
fsck.  I'm still clueless about why sometimes I need to reboot and
sometimes not.

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mystery with mke2fs -j

2001-12-13 Thread Collins Richey

Prior to making major updates to my system, I always clone my running
system to a spare partition and verify that it boots and runs.  Most
of the time this goes without a hitch, but occasionally I have
difficulty reformatting the spare partitions.  I wonder if anyone
knows why.

Here''s the setup (my disk controllers are reversed hdab are cdrom,
hdcd are disk
/dev/hdd9   current boot partition (ext3)
/dev/hdd10  current / partition (ext3) ca. 4.4gig
/dev/hdd7   spare boot partition
/dev/hdd8   spare /partition ca. 4.3 gig
other bootable partitions on /dev/hdc

I start out by formatting the spares
mke2fs -j /dev/hdd8 no problem
mke2fs -j /dev/hdd7 fails writing superblock (something about a short
write)
much screwing around including badblock tests on hdd7 (aok)
all attempts fail
reboot and the problem disappears - hdd7 formats ok
clone completed and hdd7/8 made bootable (fstab altered, lilo
updated)
new clone boots and runs ok

Any clue why sometimes I can't remake a fs over the top of an existing
one?

TIA,
-- 
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Denver Area - 12DEC2001 - WWTLRD?
gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17-pre8+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon
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Re: mystery with mke2fs -j

2001-12-13 Thread Net Llama

Most often, you need to perform a reboot when making changes to
partition tables.  I believe that fdisk even warns you of this.

--- Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Prior to making major updates to my system, I always clone my running
 system to a spare partition and verify that it boots and runs.  Most
 of the time this goes without a hitch, but occasionally I have
 difficulty reformatting the spare partitions.  I wonder if anyone
 knows why.
 
 Here''s the setup (my disk controllers are reversed hdab are cdrom,
 hdcd are disk
   /dev/hdd9   current boot partition (ext3)
   /dev/hdd10  current / partition (ext3) ca. 4.4gig
   /dev/hdd7   spare boot partition
   /dev/hdd8   spare /partition ca. 4.3 gig
   other bootable partitions on /dev/hdc
 
 I start out by formatting the spares
   mke2fs -j /dev/hdd8 no problem
   mke2fs -j /dev/hdd7 fails writing superblock (something about a short
 write)
   much screwing around including badblock tests on hdd7 (aok)
   all attempts fail
   reboot and the problem disappears - hdd7 formats ok
   clone completed and hdd7/8 made bootable (fstab altered, lilo
 updated)
   new clone boots and runs ok
 
 Any clue why sometimes I can't remake a fs over the top of an existing
 one?

=

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