Re: [Linux-uvc-devel] again Logitech QuickCam Pro for Notebooks 046d:0991

2009-10-27 Thread Laurent Pinchart
On Sunday 25 October 2009 13:17:11 Hans de Goede wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On 10/22/2009 09:40 AM, Alexey Fisher wrote:
  Hi Laurent,
  thank you for the answer, i thought - no body care. :)
 
  Am Donnerstag, den 22.10.2009, 01:55 +0200 schrieb Laurent Pinchart:
  Hi Alexey,
 
  On Thursday 15 October 2009 21:00:59 Alexey Fisher wrote:
  I did some simple dirty hack, it prevent webcam from being killed by
  cheese. On other site it make cheese work too.
  Like Paulo said,  the camera is slow and it need more time to make
  thirst start, some time it need 8 seconds on second start it need about
  2 seconds. If we call STREAMOFF before we get EOF, the camera will die.
 
  Which EOF are you talking about here ? The UVC bit in the video packets
  header ? How have you tested that ?
 
  I used uvcvideo trace=255 and cheese.
  I talking about uvc_v4l2_ioctl(VIDIOC_STREAMON), Frame complete (EOF
  found) and uvc_v4l2_ioctl(VIDIOC_STREAMOFF).
 
  IMHO, the driver should decide if camera ready or not. The easiest way
  is, to add SLOWSTART quirk. Correct way probobly will be to check if
  camera ready or not.
  Any ideas how to make it? Or any other ideas?
 
  I know, cheese use some bruteforce way to get settings, but the bug in
  cheese make the bug in uvcvideo easy to reproduce.
 
  It's not a bug in uvcvideo but a bug in the camera. Have you been to
  isolate exactly which sequence of ioctls issued by Cheese make the
  camera crash ? I'd like more information about that.
 
  I made dmesg of two situations, webcam work and don't work.
  cheese celling two times uvc_v4l2_ioctl(VIDIOC_STREAMON), thirst one
  to get the settings and second time to start the record. Between thirst
  and second pass the time out seems to be too short (even it is 10
  seconds).
 
 This is not an issue with the camera, nor with the driver, but an issue
  with cheese. In order to not wait for ever when probing devices which for
  some reason won't stream, cheese wait a maximum of 3 seconds before the
  stream to start, so if the camera is this slow to start, then cheese will
  most likely have given up before the cam has started.

If the camera crashes when it receives valid requests in some sequence it's a 
camera bug. And that means I'll have to find a software workaround :-S

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Re: [Linux-uvc-devel] again Logitech QuickCam Pro for Notebooks 046d:0991

2009-10-27 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Alexey,

On Thursday 22 October 2009 09:40:27 Alexey Fisher wrote:
 Hi Laurent,
 thank you for the answer, i thought - no body care. :)
 
 Am Donnerstag, den 22.10.2009, 01:55 +0200 schrieb Laurent Pinchart:
  Hi Alexey,
 
  On Thursday 15 October 2009 21:00:59 Alexey Fisher wrote:
   I did some simple dirty hack, it prevent webcam from being killed by
   cheese. On other site it make cheese work too.
   Like Paulo said,  the camera is slow and it need more time to make
   thirst start, some time it need 8 seconds on second start it need about
   2 seconds. If we call STREAMOFF before we get EOF, the camera will die.
 
  Which EOF are you talking about here ? The UVC bit in the video packets
  header ? How have you tested that ?
 
 I used uvcvideo trace=255 and cheese.
 I talking about uvc_v4l2_ioctl(VIDIOC_STREAMON), Frame complete (EOF
 found) and uvc_v4l2_ioctl(VIDIOC_STREAMOFF).
 
   IMHO, the driver should decide if camera ready or not. The easiest way
   is, to add SLOWSTART quirk. Correct way probobly will be to check if
   camera ready or not.
   Any ideas how to make it? Or any other ideas?
  
   I know, cheese use some bruteforce way to get settings, but the bug in
   cheese make the bug in uvcvideo easy to reproduce.
 
  It's not a bug in uvcvideo but a bug in the camera. Have you been to
  isolate exactly which sequence of ioctls issued by Cheese make the camera
  crash ? I'd like more information about that.
 
 I made dmesg of two situations, webcam work and don't work.
 cheese celling two times uvc_v4l2_ioctl(VIDIOC_STREAMON), thirst one
 to get the settings and second time to start the record. Between thirst
 and second pass the time out seems to be too short (even it is 10
 seconds).
 
 This is working example:
 [ 2715.842503] uvcvideo: uvc_v4l2_ioctl(VIDIOC_STREAMON)
 [ 2715.852318] uvcvideo: uvc_v4l2_poll
 [ 2724.689677] uvcvideo: Frame complete (EOF found).
 [ 2724.689698] uvcvideo: uvc_v4l2_poll
 [ 2724.689708] uvcvideo: uvc_v4l2_ioctl(VIDIOC_DQBUF)
 [ 2724.689713] uvcvideo: Dequeuing buffer 0 (3, 384 bytes).
 [ 2724.693157] uvcvideo: uvc_v4l2_ioctl(VIDIOC_QBUF)
 [ 2724.693164] uvcvideo: Queuing buffer 0.
 [ 2724.693551] uvcvideo: uvc_v4l2_poll
 [ 2724.694064] uvcvideo: uvc_v4l2_poll
 [ 2724.744145] uvcvideo: uvc_v4l2_ioctl(VIDIOC_STREAMOFF)
 
 This is broken:
 [ 2874.576741] uvcvideo: uvc_v4l2_ioctl(VIDIOC_STREAMON)
 [ 2874.586236] uvcvideo: uvc_v4l2_poll
 [ 2884.601319] uvcvideo: uvc_v4l2_poll
 [ 2884.601412] uvcvideo: uvc_v4l2_ioctl(VIDIOC_STREAMOFF)
 
 I think, if you call VIDIOC_STREAMOFF befor you get Frame complete (EOF
 found) on this camera it will kill it.
 
   here is this hack:
  
   diff --git a/drivers/media/video/uvc/uvc_video.c
   b/drivers/media/video/uvc/uvc_video.c
   index f960e8e..fdc7007 100644
   --- a/drivers/media/video/uvc/uvc_video.c
   +++ b/drivers/media/video/uvc/uvc_video.c
   @@ -794,7 +794,7 @@ static void uvc_uninit_video(struct uvc_streaming
   *stream, int free_buffers)
   {
 struct urb *urb;
 unsigned int i;
   -
   + msleep(5000);
 for (i = 0; i  UVC_URBS; ++i) {
 urb = stream-urb[i];
 if (urb == NULL)
   @@ -985,7 +985,7 @@ static int uvc_init_video(struct uvc_streaming
   *stream, gfp_t gfp_flags)
 return ret;
 }
 }
   -
   + msleep(5000);
 return 0;
   }
 
  I hate random sleeps. Really. I'll need more information about the bug,
  as well as a simple userspace test application, before making any such
  change to the driver.
 
 I made this suggestion to show how to reproduce this bug and how i
 workaround it. I hope it help. I can't make any program to reproduce it.

Thanks a lot for taking time to investigate the issue. I'll report this to 
Logitech and try to create a workaround in the uvcvideo driver.

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Re: [Linux-uvc-devel] again Logitech QuickCam Pro for Notebooks 046d:0991

2009-10-25 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi,

On 10/22/2009 09:40 AM, Alexey Fisher wrote:
 Hi Laurent,
 thank you for the answer, i thought - no body care. :)

 Am Donnerstag, den 22.10.2009, 01:55 +0200 schrieb Laurent Pinchart:
 Hi Alexey,

 On Thursday 15 October 2009 21:00:59 Alexey Fisher wrote:
 I did some simple dirty hack, it prevent webcam from being killed by cheese.
 On other site it make cheese work too.
 Like Paulo said,  the camera is slow and it need more time to make thirst
 start, some time it need 8 seconds on second start it need about 2 seconds.
 If we call STREAMOFF before we get EOF, the camera will die.

 Which EOF are you talking about here ? The UVC bit in the video packets 
 header
 ? How have you tested that ?

 I used uvcvideo trace=255 and cheese.
 I talking about uvc_v4l2_ioctl(VIDIOC_STREAMON), Frame complete (EOF
 found) and uvc_v4l2_ioctl(VIDIOC_STREAMOFF).

 IMHO, the driver should decide if camera ready or not. The easiest way
 is, to add SLOWSTART quirk. Correct way probobly will be to check if camera
 ready or not.
 Any ideas how to make it? Or any other ideas?

 I know, cheese use some bruteforce way to get settings, but the bug in
 cheese make the bug in uvcvideo easy to reproduce.

 It's not a bug in uvcvideo but a bug in the camera. Have you been to isolate
 exactly which sequence of ioctls issued by Cheese make the camera crash ? I'd
 like more information about that.

 I made dmesg of two situations, webcam work and don't work.
 cheese celling two times uvc_v4l2_ioctl(VIDIOC_STREAMON), thirst one
 to get the settings and second time to start the record. Between thirst
 and second pass the time out seems to be too short (even it is 10
 seconds).


This is not an issue with the camera, nor with the driver, but an issue with
cheese. In order to not wait for ever when probing devices which for some
reason won't stream, cheese wait a maximum of 3 seconds before the stream to
start, so if the camera is this slow to start, then cheese will most likely
have given up before the cam has started.

Regards,

Hans
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Re: [Linux-uvc-devel] again Logitech QuickCam Pro for Notebooks 046d:0991

2009-10-21 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Alexey,

On Thursday 15 October 2009 21:00:59 Alexey Fisher wrote:
 I did some simple dirty hack, it prevent webcam from being killed by cheese.
 On other site it make cheese work too.
 Like Paulo said,  the camera is slow and it need more time to make thirst
 start, some time it need 8 seconds on second start it need about 2 seconds. 
 If we call STREAMOFF before we get EOF, the camera will die.

Which EOF are you talking about here ? The UVC bit in the video packets header 
? How have you tested that ?

 IMHO, the driver should decide if camera ready or not. The easiest way
 is, to add SLOWSTART quirk. Correct way probobly will be to check if camera
 ready or not.
 Any ideas how to make it? Or any other ideas?
 
 I know, cheese use some bruteforce way to get settings, but the bug in
 cheese make the bug in uvcvideo easy to reproduce.

It's not a bug in uvcvideo but a bug in the camera. Have you been to isolate 
exactly which sequence of ioctls issued by Cheese make the camera crash ? I'd 
like more information about that.



 here is this hack:
 
 diff --git a/drivers/media/video/uvc/uvc_video.c
 b/drivers/media/video/uvc/uvc_video.c
 index f960e8e..fdc7007 100644
 --- a/drivers/media/video/uvc/uvc_video.c
 +++ b/drivers/media/video/uvc/uvc_video.c
 @@ -794,7 +794,7 @@ static void uvc_uninit_video(struct uvc_streaming
 *stream, int free_buffers)
 {
   struct urb *urb;
   unsigned int i;
 -
 + msleep(5000);
   for (i = 0; i  UVC_URBS; ++i) {
   urb = stream-urb[i];
   if (urb == NULL)
 @@ -985,7 +985,7 @@ static int uvc_init_video(struct uvc_streaming
 *stream, gfp_t gfp_flags)
   return ret;
   }
   }
 -
 + msleep(5000);
   return 0;
 }

I hate random sleeps. Really. I'll need more information about the bug, as 
well as a simple userspace test application, before making any such change to 
the driver.

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Re: [Linux-uvc-devel] again Logitech QuickCam Pro for Notebooks 046d:0991

2009-10-15 Thread Alexey Fisher

I did some simple dirty hack, it prevent webcam from being killed by
cheese. On other site it make cheese work too.
Like Paulo said,  the camera is slow and it need more time to make
thirst start, some time it need 8 seconds on second start it need about
2 seconds.  If we call STREAMOFF before we get EOF, the camera will die.
IMHO, the driver should decide if camera ready or not. The easiest way
is, to add SLOWSTART quirk. Correct way probobly will be to check if
camera ready or not.
Any ideas how to make it? Or any other ideas?

I know, cheese use some bruteforce way to get settings, but the bug in
cheese make the bug in uvcvideo easy to reproduce.

here is this hack:

diff --git a/drivers/media/video/uvc/uvc_video.c
b/drivers/media/video/uvc/uvc_video.c
index f960e8e..fdc7007 100644
--- a/drivers/media/video/uvc/uvc_video.c
+++ b/drivers/media/video/uvc/uvc_video.c
@@ -794,7 +794,7 @@ static void uvc_uninit_video(struct uvc_streaming
*stream, int free_buffers)
{
struct urb *urb;
unsigned int i;
-
+ msleep(5000);
for (i = 0; i  UVC_URBS; ++i) {
urb = stream-urb[i];
if (urb == NULL)
@@ -985,7 +985,7 @@ static int uvc_init_video(struct uvc_streaming
*stream, gfp_t gfp_flags)
return ret;
}
}
-
+ msleep(5000);
return 0;
}



Alexey,

Am Mittwoch, den 14.10.2009, 16:37 +0100 schrieb Paulo Assis: 
 Alexey,
 I believe it has something to do with the camera initialization, both
 the sphere and the pro9000 are based on the same chip and it takes it
 several seconds to initialize, unlike other cameras.
 Not sure how cheese handles this, although I guess very badly :D.
 If I start some other software first, like guvcview, then cheese, it
 will work OK since the camera initialization already happen, but if I
 start cheese first, it can crash/lock the camera. The latest cheese
 version from upcoming ubuntu karmic exhibits the same problems (even
 worst than intrepid). In fact the last time I experience this, the
 crash was so bad that alsa/pulse was also affected, it wouldn't start
 the camera mic, making the entire system very slow.
 Other cameras with fast initialization times work without problems.
 
 Best regards,
 Paulo
 
 2009/10/14 Alexey Fisher bug-tr...@fisher-privat.net:
  Actually i don't really care about chees or empathy do not work, but
  more. Haw they make camera freeze so hard that only plugoff will help?
  What control was used to do it?
 
  Alexey.
 
  Am Mittwoch, den 14.10.2009, 09:53 -0400 schrieb Andres Cimmarusti:
  I have the same problem with cheese and the same camera. I don't get
  any problems using lucview nor skype. Cheese version 2.22 was actually
  working fairly well for me (using Debian stable), but I couldn't
  record videos so I uninstalled it. I'll wait for a more polished
  bug-free cheese which will be available with squeeze.
 
  Andres
 
  On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Paulo Assis pj.as...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  Alexey,
  Since this only manifests itself after using cheese I would
  say it's a
  cheese problem.
  I also have the same problem with a sphereAF and cheese,
  sometimes it
  works fine, others the camera just crashes and I need to
  unplug it so
  that it will work again.
  Other apps work just fine with the camera.
 
  Best regards,
  Paulo
 
  2009/10/14 Alexey Fisher bug-tr...@fisher-privat.net:
 
   Hallo,
   I found in this list message Logitech QuickCam Pro for
  Notebooks
   046d:0991 not working from Mon Jul 28 10:18:08 CEST 2008.
  So now i will
   ask about same problem. It seems some bugs was fixed, some
  new probably
   made.
  
   I have some random problem with this camera. Thirst of all
  cheese, some
   time it's work, some time i gat only black screen, after
  this camera do
   not work, so i need to replug it. With mplayer it working
  mostly normal
   but after cheese it will not work too. The video chat with
  empathy has
   same problem like cheese to. cheese and epmaty depend on
  gstreamer but
   this seems to work fine if i use:
  
   gst-launch v4l2src ! queue ! videorate !
   video/x-raw-yuv,framerate=15/1 ! videoscale !
   video/x-raw-yuv,width=640,height=480 ! ffmpegcolorspace !
  videoscale !
   ximagesink
  
After cheese i get this demsg:
  
   [ 1296.135911] usbcore: registered new interface driver
  snd-usb-audio
   [ 1296.147366] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device unnamed
  (046d:0991)
   [ 1296.170101] input: UVC Camera (046d:0991)
  
  as /devices/pci:00/:00:1a.7/usb1/1-6/1-6:1.0/input/input15
   [ 1296.170139] usbcore: registered new interface driver
  uvcvideo
   [ 1296.170142] USB Video Class driver (v0.1.0)
 

Re: [Linux-uvc-devel] again Logitech QuickCam Pro for Notebooks 046d:0991

2009-10-14 Thread Alexey Fisher
Actually i don't really care about chees or empathy do not work, but
more. Haw they make camera freeze so hard that only plugoff will help?
What control was used to do it?

Alexey.

Am Mittwoch, den 14.10.2009, 09:53 -0400 schrieb Andres Cimmarusti:
 I have the same problem with cheese and the same camera. I don't get
 any problems using lucview nor skype. Cheese version 2.22 was actually
 working fairly well for me (using Debian stable), but I couldn't
 record videos so I uninstalled it. I'll wait for a more polished
 bug-free cheese which will be available with squeeze.
 
 Andres
 
 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Paulo Assis pj.as...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Alexey,
 Since this only manifests itself after using cheese I would
 say it's a
 cheese problem.
 I also have the same problem with a sphereAF and cheese,
 sometimes it
 works fine, others the camera just crashes and I need to
 unplug it so
 that it will work again.
 Other apps work just fine with the camera.
 
 Best regards,
 Paulo
 
 2009/10/14 Alexey Fisher bug-tr...@fisher-privat.net:
 
  Hallo,
  I found in this list message Logitech QuickCam Pro for
 Notebooks
  046d:0991 not working from Mon Jul 28 10:18:08 CEST 2008.
 So now i will
  ask about same problem. It seems some bugs was fixed, some
 new probably
  made.
 
  I have some random problem with this camera. Thirst of all
 cheese, some
  time it's work, some time i gat only black screen, after
 this camera do
  not work, so i need to replug it. With mplayer it working
 mostly normal
  but after cheese it will not work too. The video chat with
 empathy has
  same problem like cheese to. cheese and epmaty depend on
 gstreamer but
  this seems to work fine if i use:
 
  gst-launch v4l2src ! queue ! videorate !
  video/x-raw-yuv,framerate=15/1 ! videoscale !
  video/x-raw-yuv,width=640,height=480 ! ffmpegcolorspace !
 videoscale !
  ximagesink
 
   After cheese i get this demsg:
 
  [ 1296.135911] usbcore: registered new interface driver
 snd-usb-audio
  [ 1296.147366] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device unnamed
 (046d:0991)
  [ 1296.170101] input: UVC Camera (046d:0991)
 
 as /devices/pci:00/:00:1a.7/usb1/1-6/1-6:1.0/input/input15
  [ 1296.170139] usbcore: registered new interface driver
 uvcvideo
  [ 1296.170142] USB Video Class driver (v0.1.0)
  [ 2235.420181] uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 2
 (unit 2) :
  -110 (exp. 2).
  [ 2235.721428] uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 2
 (unit 2) :
  -110 (exp. 2).
  [ 2242.560187] uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 2
 (unit 2) :
  -110 (exp. 2).
  [ 2242.860179] uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 2
 (unit 2) :
  -110 (exp. 2).
  [ 2266.230184] uvcvideo: Failed to set UVC probe control :
 -110 (exp.
  26).
  [ 2271.350744] uvcvideo: Failed to set UVC probe control :
 -110 (exp.
  26).
  [ 2289.660019] usb 1-6: USB disconnect, address 6
  [ 2293.430078] usb 1-6: new high speed USB device using
 ehci_hcd and
  address 7
  [ 2293.708270] usb 1-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1
 choice
 
  The guestion is, is it kernel, gstreamer or empathy and
 cheese bug?
 
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Re: [Linux-uvc-devel] again Logitech QuickCam Pro for Notebooks 046d:0991

2009-10-14 Thread Paulo Assis
Alexey,
I believe it has something to do with the camera initialization, both
the sphere and the pro9000 are based on the same chip and it takes it
several seconds to initialize, unlike other cameras.
Not sure how cheese handles this, although I guess very badly :D.
If I start some other software first, like guvcview, then cheese, it
will work OK since the camera initialization already happen, but if I
start cheese first, it can crash/lock the camera. The latest cheese
version from upcoming ubuntu karmic exhibits the same problems (even
worst than intrepid). In fact the last time I experience this, the
crash was so bad that alsa/pulse was also affected, it wouldn't start
the camera mic, making the entire system very slow.
Other cameras with fast initialization times work without problems.

Best regards,
Paulo

2009/10/14 Alexey Fisher bug-tr...@fisher-privat.net:
 Actually i don't really care about chees or empathy do not work, but
 more. Haw they make camera freeze so hard that only plugoff will help?
 What control was used to do it?

 Alexey.

 Am Mittwoch, den 14.10.2009, 09:53 -0400 schrieb Andres Cimmarusti:
 I have the same problem with cheese and the same camera. I don't get
 any problems using lucview nor skype. Cheese version 2.22 was actually
 working fairly well for me (using Debian stable), but I couldn't
 record videos so I uninstalled it. I'll wait for a more polished
 bug-free cheese which will be available with squeeze.

 Andres

 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Paulo Assis pj.as...@gmail.com
 wrote:
         Alexey,
         Since this only manifests itself after using cheese I would
         say it's a
         cheese problem.
         I also have the same problem with a sphereAF and cheese,
         sometimes it
         works fine, others the camera just crashes and I need to
         unplug it so
         that it will work again.
         Other apps work just fine with the camera.

         Best regards,
         Paulo

         2009/10/14 Alexey Fisher bug-tr...@fisher-privat.net:

          Hallo,
          I found in this list message Logitech QuickCam Pro for
         Notebooks
          046d:0991 not working from Mon Jul 28 10:18:08 CEST 2008.
         So now i will
          ask about same problem. It seems some bugs was fixed, some
         new probably
          made.
         
          I have some random problem with this camera. Thirst of all
         cheese, some
          time it's work, some time i gat only black screen, after
         this camera do
          not work, so i need to replug it. With mplayer it working
         mostly normal
          but after cheese it will not work too. The video chat with
         empathy has
          same problem like cheese to. cheese and epmaty depend on
         gstreamer but
          this seems to work fine if i use:
         
          gst-launch v4l2src ! queue ! videorate !
          video/x-raw-yuv,framerate=15/1 ! videoscale !
          video/x-raw-yuv,width=640,height=480 ! ffmpegcolorspace !
         videoscale !
          ximagesink
         
           After cheese i get this demsg:
         
          [ 1296.135911] usbcore: registered new interface driver
         snd-usb-audio
          [ 1296.147366] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device unnamed
         (046d:0991)
          [ 1296.170101] input: UVC Camera (046d:0991)
         
         as /devices/pci:00/:00:1a.7/usb1/1-6/1-6:1.0/input/input15
          [ 1296.170139] usbcore: registered new interface driver
         uvcvideo
          [ 1296.170142] USB Video Class driver (v0.1.0)
          [ 2235.420181] uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 2
         (unit 2) :
          -110 (exp. 2).
          [ 2235.721428] uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 2
         (unit 2) :
          -110 (exp. 2).
          [ 2242.560187] uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 2
         (unit 2) :
          -110 (exp. 2).
          [ 2242.860179] uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 2
         (unit 2) :
          -110 (exp. 2).
          [ 2266.230184] uvcvideo: Failed to set UVC probe control :
         -110 (exp.
          26).
          [ 2271.350744] uvcvideo: Failed to set UVC probe control :
         -110 (exp.
          26).
          [ 2289.660019] usb 1-6: USB disconnect, address 6
          [ 2293.430078] usb 1-6: new high speed USB device using
         ehci_hcd and
          address 7
          [ 2293.708270] usb 1-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1
         choice
         
          The guestion is, is it kernel, gstreamer or empathy and
         cheese bug?
         
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