Re: Building error

2005-06-15 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
what version of python do you have on your machine? what distro is this?

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Re: Booting Linux using netboot and HD

2005-06-15 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
I strongly recommend filo for people trying to boot off ide. It just plain 
works for me and etherboot, though it is wonderful, has not been as 
reliable.

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Re: Booting Linux using netboot and HD

2005-06-15 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, beneo wrote:

 Does filo support ext3 file system? the intruduction say it supports ext2,
 but didn't say anything about ext3. If it doesn't support ext3, does it mean
 I have to re-install Linux to ext2?

IIRC read-only ext3 can almost always be read by ext2 file system code.

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RE: DiskOnChip and PLCC32 packages

2005-04-27 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Seb James wrote:

 Great. Would LILO also function as a payload for LinuxBIOS?

no. LILO makes bios calls. Sorry :-(

Use FILO!

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Re: Geode GX2

2005-04-26 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
lots of people are interested in this, I'm trying to find out who to talk 
to at amd.

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Re: Geode GX2

2005-04-26 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, William J Beksi wrote:

 I have the source files (cpu setup, southbridge, northbridge) for the NSC
 Geode GX1/GX2 orginally written by Christer Weinigel. I'm not sure, but it may
 have been in the Linuxbios cvs a long time ago?

it's been in v1 for years. 

 
 I have it working on an Informtech S7 board running an NSC Geode GX1 except
 for the serial console.
 
 I believe AMD did not change the architecture after buying out the Geode from
 NSC, so this should work for AMD Geodes.

I guess hamish could use the code, he is the geode guy now.

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Re: Building error

2005-04-24 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Huang-Jen Wang wrote:

 my phthon version is 2.2.2, and my linux is Red Hat 9.0

hmm. Can you try something a little more modern?

I don't understand the error you are seeing.

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Re: LinuxBIOS Pentium-M embedded boards

2005-04-14 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Tobias Erichsen wrote:

 Has there been any success to get any of those going
 with LinuxBIOS?

no, as Intel does not want it to happen. They are determined to ensure 
that no future Intel hardware can run linuxbios. They have stated as much 
to me directly. I am hoping this situation will change at some point, 
however, as some larger customers are starting to ask for LinuxBIOS.

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Re: demo cluster

2005-04-12 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, YhLu wrote:

 in the wiki, you said
 At LANL, we are building a new 'no moving parts' 16-node cluster to
 demonstrate this capability.
 
 only linuxbios + bproc there?
 
 what's MB?

probably amd sc520 based

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Re: post code fe means what ?

2005-04-12 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Huang-Jen Wang wrote:

 Hi All,
 I tried to build  a linuxbios for Arima Hdama, but the rom can't work
 I use a debug card , and it shows post code fe
 what dose it mean?

that's I thought the last code before jumping to payload.
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Re: Tyan 2850 video output

2005-04-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Alexey wrote:

 My goal is to see the whole boot process on display.

you mean linuxbios messages too? 

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Re: Amlcode structure generation [PMX:#]

2005-03-30 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Stefan Reinauer wrote:

 * Ronald G. Minnich rminnich@lanl.gov [050329 23:32]:
  
  
  
  just a note, please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] from here on out. I will 
   
   linuxbios@openbios.org

ah, sorry, tired fingers type wrong words.

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Re: NSC sc1100 port

2005-03-29 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, William J Beksi wrote:

 Has anyone ported or working on porting the National Semicondutor sc1100 cpu?
is that an x86? intel has an 1100 too ... it's an ARM.

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Re: Intel StorageStation port

2005-03-29 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Dave Mills wrote:

 Chipset Intel 430TX

try the digitallogic/ p5 target in freebios 1. 

same north.

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Re: Amlcode structure generation [PMX:#]

2005-03-29 Thread Ronald G. Minnich



just a note, please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] from here on out. I will 
give this transition a few more days. Please fix your address books!

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Re: Error in compiling STPC Consumer

2005-03-24 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote:

 On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 05:54:17 + (GMT), Ramesh Chhaba 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yes Sir , 
   u was right that I was missing that payload = line in configuration :) 
  So I have aded that line 
  and also enabled STD_FLASH 
  and ELF_BOOT 
  options and also added 
  PAY_LOAD_SIZE = 64KB 
  and ROM_SIZE =126KB 
  But I want to make my romimage within 256KB 

  So what options I acn change to do that 
  currently my image is 356 (approx) KB 
 
 PAY_LOAD_SIZE is not a maximum size.  its the blocksize option thats
 used in the 'dd' statemnet that copies the payload into a file.  So
 64k is the minimum it will be but it could be 128k, 192k, 256k, etc.
 
 Make your ROM_SIZE be the size you want the image - payload size.  You
 can see all the magic for this in the makefile that the config tool
 generates.  I remember I had to tweak with my numbers till I got to to
 come out the right size.
 
 356k seems a little large for just linubios and etherboot.  How big is
 your payload?
 


this is a clear FAQ entry.

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Re: Error in compiling STPC Consumer

2005-03-24 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote:

 think I would still make v1 people ask so we can tell them not to use
 v1.

ah, good point. Hey richard, previous letter, question is:
Q. Should I use V1? 
A. Your previous letter

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Re: How to flash the bios?

2005-03-20 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Markus Wolters wrote:

 I have compiled and build freebios and everything went ok. The romimage is
 at /usr/src/freebios/build.
 
 My mainboard is a K7SEM. When I do flash_rom, this error message appears :
 2f is 0xfd
 
 EEPROM not found

What type of flash part is it
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This list is shutting down

2005-03-17 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
In a very short time, possibly today, this list will stop. All traffic 
should now be on the openbios version of this list.

thanks

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Re: Disk On Chip strangeness

2005-03-17 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Gregg C Levine wrote:

 Just how hard is it to render these things unreadable, or even
 unusable by normal methods?

sometimes I've had them just die on me. I wonder if that's what happened 
to you.

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Re: Neither IDE Port Enabled

2005-03-16 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
what platform is this?

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cutting over

2005-03-14 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the new mailing list. I will shut the old one 
down in a day or two. Hope you call get this.

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Re: Looking for advise for DiskOnChip Tyan s2850 setup

2005-03-14 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Thomas Wehrspann wrote:

 You need a DiskOnChip Millenium (no 2000). Those were only available with 8MB 
 and aren't produced anymore.

ONLY if you're going to use DoC-only with no bios flash. 

If you're going to use DoC in addition to bios flash, any DoC will do, I 
think.

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looking for an OS hacker

2005-03-14 Thread Ronald G. Minnich

I hope nobody minds the spam but os hacker jobs can be hard to find, as 
opposed to java web applet hackers. 

If you go to the LANL job site, and look at job #209754, that is to work 
for me on OS stuff. Go ahead and apply if interested.

US citizenship is best.

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Re: [LinuxBIOS] cutting over

2005-03-14 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Tyson Sawyer wrote:

 Do we need to move ourselves over or will the existing list of subscribers be
 moved?

gets moved automagically, (i.e. stefan) but you should be getting dup mail 
emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: LinuxBios support for the ELAN SC520

2005-03-11 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Peter Stuge wrote:

 Done. How do I identify the BIOS chip on my mainboard?

ah, I love the wiki.

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Re: glossary update...

2005-03-11 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote:

 Is there any interest in adding
 this to the linuxBIOS wiki?

yes, this is a great start at a common glossary.

Wonderful! thanks!

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Re: Anyone tried LinuxBIOS with freeBSD?

2005-03-10 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, yhlu wrote:

 if remove FreeBSD's dependence on BIOS calls. can we move pci bus
 routine from Linux Kernel to them?
 
 Is any license problem with that?

yes. 

But I think freebsd would work fine without bios calls, when I looked it 
was informational calls they made such as memory size, etc.

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Re: Help with EPIA

2005-03-10 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 1st, what settings do you have in the Config.lb for enabling the IDE
 controllers
 - they should be in compatibility mode (I think).

yes, and they are not. I did notice that. 

 2nd, I'm curious to know how stable your raminit appears to be, I've
 been having problems with it hanging reading the spd eprom on the
 dimm's.

yes, overall the southbridge seems to be significantly less reliable than 
it used to be. We have seen the same hang.

The code is much better, we just have to shake it out a little.


 3rd, I have a cleaned up version of the southbridge/via/vt8231/vt8231.c
 ready to commit after Ron checks it over, if you'd like to test it, I
 can email you the diff (plus a few changes to the Options.lb and
 Config.lb)

I think we're interested in that!

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Re: LinuxBios support for the ELAN SC520

2005-03-10 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
I'd still like to find an elan board that:
- has removable flash part
- flash part is the standard QFP, not DIP. 
- has a working bios.


This combination seems to be really hard to find!

Any pointers?

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Re: LinuxBios support for the ELAN SC520

2005-03-10 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
Dave, this is *exactly* what I'm looking for. Thanks!

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Re: LinuxBios support for the ELAN SC520

2005-03-10 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Peter Stuge wrote:

 Not to be a pain, but to clarify, that's a PLCC package. QFP looks
 like this:

Thank you. I have been getting that wrong since the package was invented. 
Sorry.

Anyone who wants to put this in the FAQ, be my guest :-)

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Re: Help with EPIA

2005-03-10 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Josiah England wrote:

 As Ron said, there are no such settings.  How do I set them in
 compatibility mode?

Josiah, let's you, me, and Ollie sit down tomorrow and walk this code. I 
think it will be pretty easy.

thanks

 That problem has reared up a few times.  Quite odd how intermittent it
 is - seems to just start happenning on some builds and rarely thereafter
 gets past initialization, then on another build (with no different
 settings), it works fine indefinately.

it's not the build, it's a wacky race condition.


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Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-09 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, ramesh bios wrote:

 So what do you guys think I should do? Do you agree
 with my assessment above? The easiest thing to do
 would be to add a linux kernel boot parameter that'll
 allow LinuxBIOS to tell filo to tell the kernel
 exactly where in sdram the uncompressed PIRQ table is.

yes, but then you have to keep maintaining your patch. 

 I think I can do that. Alternately, since we know that Fh is the
 start of the flash, could we just reserve that small section of flash
 for storing an uncompressed PIRQ table and leave everything else as is.

yes, but you're going to have to figure out how to do that :-)

I think the simplest is CONFIG_COMPRESS=0, and just don't worry about it. 
LinuxBIOS fits, right? Then don't worry about it.

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RE: Does anybody needs LinuxBIOS for VMware virtual machines?

2005-03-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Dmitriy Budko wrote:

 So, you don't need it for production systems, only for development, 
 do you?

I would say so. 

 How difficult is it to port Intel 440BX chipset support from
 V1 to V2?

easy. Been done. Ask Richard Smith.

 It seems to me that supporting a new SIO chips (the emulated 
 NS PC97338/PC87338) should be easy.

yes.


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Re: Does anybody needs LinuxBIOS for VMware virtual machines?

2005-03-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote:

 Yep. not to bad.  I've got the beginnings of the port already done.  I
 got hung up on getting my dump_spd routine to return somthing else
 besides zero.  Its really wierd.  I can actually see the data on the
 SMbus happening but I don't ever seem to get a result back.

ah, richard, it just occurred to me. A lot of the spd code starts the op, 
and waits for the 'active' bit to go to 0 in the status. If the CPU is too 
fast, it will sample the 'active' bit before the smbus hardware starts to 
do anything. Then you read back bad data. 

As I found on some chipsets, the CPU can be too fast, and it should:
1. start op
2. wait for 'smbus active' indicator to go to 1
3. wait for 'smbus active' indicator to go to 0

is this by any chance your problem?

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Re: Version Control

2005-03-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Eric W. Biederman wrote:

 The next piece to investigate is how we plan on publishing and
 committing changes.  The bread and butter of a version control system.  
 Ron are you far enough along in playing with arch that you are ready for
 that piece of the conversation?

nope. Have not had time to look as I have been sick. Fooey. 

The only issue I worry about is making sure that vendors have One Place To 
Go for as they do know (i.e. sourceforge.net). It seems to me that 
openbios.org could be that place. Sound ok?

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Re: Version Control

2005-03-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Stefan Reinauer wrote:

 We could either use pqm or add ssh keys for each commiter. How many are
 there currently?

I think maybe 8 or so active.

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Re: Version Control

2005-03-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, yhlu wrote:

 Can we put the server in US instead of EU?

I'm afraid to ask this question, but why does it matter? EU patent issues?

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we need to sequence this

2005-03-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich

we need a 'controlled shutdown' of the  cvs project so we can do a clean 
cut over to tla. 

Can we pick a day and time? midnight this saturday or some such? Do we all 
trust tla enough to go for it?

What stepan could do is an import, and at the same time we shut down 
commits to the cvs. 

Sound ok?

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Re: we need to sequence this

2005-03-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, YhLu wrote:

 why does the Linux kernel use bitkeeper? 

because it is really really good. Xen uses it too. 

IBM uses it extensively and they were trying to convince us to use it for 
linuxbios. 

But Larry's 'rules of engagement' for free use of the software are not 
aceeptable to some of our contributors, so for this project we are not 
going to use it.


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Re: we need to sequence this

2005-03-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Stefan Reinauer wrote:

 How does closing the tree work? We can also tag it and leave it sitting
 there with a notice that it is obsolete.

I am not sure how to close it. Possibly remove all developers this 
weekend. 

And, no commits post-midnight of this sunday. 

Something like that.

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Re: Does anybody needs LinuxBIOS for VMware virtual machines?

2005-03-07 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Dmitriy Budko wrote:

 Does anybody needs LinuxBIOS for VMware virtual machines?
 If you want it please describe why do you want it.

it would sure make it easier to do full-up sims of linuxbios-equipped 
systems.

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Re: ASUS and linuxbios

2005-03-06 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
I was talking to ASUS at one point but the conversation faltered. I can 
try again. Pick a mobo you really want to see it done for.

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Re: Anyone tried LinuxBIOS with freeBSD?

2005-03-04 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, YhLu wrote:

 Anyone tried LinuxBIOS with freeBSD?
 

I talked to freebsd guys about it. Freebsd makes BIOS calls, so that would 
need to be fixed.

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Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-04 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, ramesh bios wrote:

 Ok, so I tried this specific sequence and it failed.
 
 making region read/write

nope. you need to make it write-only, 



 Verifing priq routing tables copy at 0xf...failed,

then copy

The make it read-write.

 Could it be that f is mapped to the flash? 

yes, it's supposed to be!


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Re: Version Control

2005-03-04 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Eric W. Biederman wrote:

 Ron does this sound like something you would be willing to look at?

by all means!

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Re: linuxbios on k7sem with 2.6.x kernel?

2005-03-04 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Markus Wolters wrote:

 Is it possible to use a 2.6 kernel?

yes

 Is it possible to use the original bios chip?

DON'T DO THAT. if you don't have a backup chip, don't try it.

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Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-04 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Ronald G. Minnich wrote:

 
 
 On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, ramesh bios wrote:
 
  Ok, so I tried this specific sequence and it failed.
  
  making region read/write
 
 nope. you need to make it write-only, 

arg, I'm not thinking, we are running out of high memory and then RAM. 

So making it read/write should have worked. Blash.

Dump the memory at 0xf BEFORE and AFTER you copy the PIRQ.

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Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-03 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote:

 --
 I2C - Inter-Integrated-Circuit, a bidirectional 2-wire bus for efficient
 inter-IC control. See 'http://www.esacademy.com/faq/i2c/index.htm' for more
 info.

this is fine.

 And as someone else mentioned that explanation of config options is
 needed; why not use doxygen (or similar tool), which seems a really easy
 way to document the code and outputs, text, html, LaTeX etc.?

Actually, when you build a target, you can then type
make documentation

and should get docs for that board.

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Re: Porting Linuxbios to Via P4m266A

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have written back asking for permission to disclose the contents
 without NDA. I have pointed out the benefits they are going to derive.  
 Let's see how it goes. I have a feeling that they may allow disclosure
 without NDA.

another option is to ask for permission to release code but not release 
the material. VIA has done that for me in the past. 

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Re: error in making bios

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Ramesh Chhaba wrote:

 Hi All ,
 
 I was just trying to make a linuxBIOS for epic.
 at last step it gives error .
 
 ././buildrom linuxbios.strip linuxbios.rom
 ../../../../../lnxieepro100.ebi 0x1 0x2
 ../../../../../lnxieepro100.ebi: No such file or
 directory

it needs that file. So you need to provide that file or make your own 
Config file with a different file.

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Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote:

 Ok, thanks again for educating me!

so, peter, you want to accumulate the Glossary for us :-)

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Re: [wiki] v2 PC-Chips support

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Justin C. Darby wrote:

 I seem to remember LinuxBIOS having a few PC-Chips motherboards supported, but
 there is currently no mention of it on the page.
 
 Is this not in v2?

It is not in v2. 

 Are any of the supported PC-Chips motherboards still in production or
 use that should be in the documentation?

Not sure.

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Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Justin C. Darby wrote:

 If someone can point me in the right direction (in the source, I'd guess) to
 find all of the configuration options without descriptions I can setup a page
 dedicated to explaining them one at a time.
 


src/config/Options.lb


What's nice is the format greg watson worked up is amenable to processing 
to produce html. I think this ought to be easy to autmoate.

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Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote:

 Thats a good idea.  What about adding a description section where
 this info is filled out.  Then the config tool would generate some
 sort of  text file in the target directory describing all the options
 that are set.  

Makefile.settings

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Re: FILO dependencies

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I'm using FILO with nVidia reference board with a CK804. I've got
 LinuxBIOS to load FILO and FILO sees the IDE controller but not the
 drive.  I thought FILO was device independent, but could the IDE
 controllers on the CK804 require FILO changes?

Wow, you've taken this far. 

Not sure yet. I need  a board, so guess we'll order some.
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Re: FILO dependencies

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, yhlu wrote:

 Why not try Etherboot at first? That would be easier.

we've never found it to be easier, but that is a point of disagreement 
between several places :-)

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Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich

for shadow ram, you need to enable writes to go to ram. Later on, when you 
are done with a region, you need to enable reads. 

So the way you do this: figure out which one is for 0xf. Enable writes 
(2). At the end of the process, you need to set (3) for the area. 


And, somebody will have to explain how this fits in with the new stuff, as 
I have not looked at shadow ram setup at all in V2!

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Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote:

 On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Peter Stuge wrote:
 
  There are probably more sections that would be useful too.
 
 Technical jargon? I'm still a bit confused about what payload is and there's
 probably quite a few words/acronyms that are being used but it's hard to know
 exactly what they mean.
 
 Best regards
 

wiki contributors, here is a question; go for it!
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Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, ramesh bios wrote:

 That's odd. My understanding might be lacking. 
 
 I think the PIRQ table parser in 2.6.10 seems to work
 because it works when I use the normal BIOS. 

no, it's messy. Some bioses set IRQ settings that don't agree with their 
own PIRQ tables. I've seen this in practice. So the fact that the normal 
BIOS has working IRQs means nothing. 

I'd like a URL for the Cox/Christer discussion :-)
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RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Andreas, which version of LB where you looking at ? People still seem to
 be getting on ok with V1 and the HOW-TO I wrote some time ago. Which
 version of the EPIA are you using, is it the original EPIA or one of the
 other version (ie EPIA-M, EPIA-MII etc) ? If it's the EPIA, I may be
 able to help.

V2 epia. V2 epia used to work, but does not currently. It locks up in ram 
init. 

My worry is that the code was fixed to use DRAM timings from SPD and the
infamous 8601 bugs have now caught up with us.

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Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, ramesh bios wrote:

 Would I be able to test if Linux 2.6.10 is able to
 parse the normal BIOS' PIRQ table by booting linux
 with acpi=off? 

no, the problem is that the BIOSes we have seen in some cases just assign 
a bunch of IRQs, and ignore their own tables. Hence, the problem gets 
harder.

 I'm still somewhat confused though. At the point that
 LB calls the kernel, shoudn't LB have used the IRQ
 table values to set the PCI config space registers to
 write IRQ values to the PCI config registers and such?

no, we have always let Linux do this because:
- for a given version of linux, you really don't know what tables it will 
   use, so it makes no sense to do a lot of work and then have linux 
   repeat it
- there are multiple options in some cases for which IRQ to use, and 
  again, you want to let the OS figure that out

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Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote:

 To get more people interested in linuxbios one has to lower the bars, and
 technical jargon is a major blocker (at least for me). And yes, I do know what
 i2c is, and I think I know what spd is (ram speed?) but vid  did does not
 ring a bell. For anyone not knowing what i2c is I'll recommend:
 http://www.esacademy.com/faq/i2c/index.htm

so we need a glossary. Good point.

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Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote:

 I've found that Linux up to 2.6.9 (I haven't tested .10)  Dosen't do
 this fully.  With my 440bx chipset there are config registers in the
 northbridge that control which IRQ line each of the PCI PIRQ lines are
 routed to.  Even with a proper PIRQ table these registers are not setup
 and I get the same error reported.

that's whacky. The old linux did fine with 440bx. I never had to do 
anything but set up PIRQ tables. 

 I suggest you diff the output of lspci -xxx for the northbridge between
 linubios and factory bios and resolve all the differences with the
 datasheet.

on the geode 2.4.18 always worked, and if I patched linux for later 
linuxes, that worked fine too. 

What a mess PIRQ got to be  

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wiki.linuxbios.org

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich

I have started to bring over content to the wiki. Those who have logins -- 
you can see my formatting is not that great in the FAQ, fixers welcome.

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RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Alan Mimms wrote:

 So would someone who DOES have an account please edit the login page to
 put a mailto link there to allow users to at least know that the UI on
 that page isn't as described in the error you get when you try to create
 an account the way the page says to do so?  It's guaranteed to be an FAQ
 which will bother everyone more than the time it would take to fix it on
 the page.
 

Alan, you mean the thing on the upper right 'log in or create account'?

We'll get that done. 

Thanks for checking things out.

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port guides

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich

I've moved the three port guides over. Antony's is really good, but sadly 
is for v1. 

The EPIA one is good for V2.

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Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Li-Ta Lo wrote:

 Do I have to right to distribute my FREENIX '05 paper? If I can,
 should I put it on the wiki?

yes.

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Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Li-Ta Lo wrote:

 even the copyright is assigned to USENIX.org?

yes, AFAIK you can still post it. I post all my usenix pappers.

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Re: Can any one ID this board?

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
don't know, but it sure looks like yer basic geode board to me.

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wiki.linuxbios.org

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich

This page is improving so quickly you almost need a video camera to watch 
it!

Thanks to all of you who have contributed today. It's just fantastic!

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Re: wiki.linuxbios.org

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Bari Ari wrote:

 What's the status on getting an account  password? Who do you have to know?
 
 -Bari

me or stepan. You want one bari? 

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Re: wiki.linuxbios.org update

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
Yes, Justin Darby did a GREAT job of fixing up the FAQ, btw.

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Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, ramesh bios wrote:

 Strike that. The issue is somewhere with
 copy_pirq_routing_table. IE: why does the copy to
 f fail. I had assumed that the 500 address was an
 alternate location that the table was copied to. So
 now, I'm looking at that f000 failure.


the copy to f fails because shadow ram is not set up. 

You can fix this one of two ways. One is to figure out how to enable 
shadow ram. The second is to make the payload uncompressed. The copy will 
still fail but linux will find the PIRQ table anyway.

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new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-02-28 Thread Ronald G. Minnich

if you see errors let me know (I did not write this but they will take
input). I know the comment about linuxbios being stripped-down linux is
not quite right; anything else?

Nevertheless it is really great to see the FSF weigh in on this issue. 

If your company is a supporter of linuxbios, or other free bioses such as 
U-boot etc., then you should definitely contact the FSF and get your name 
listed. 

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Re: A Four X Solution?

2005-02-28 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Adam Sulmicki wrote:

 it is one of my regrets that I never finished that ram initalization
 project on that Thankpad T23 back at UMD.

well, adam, show Justin the URL for that work and the hardware mod you 
have to make for development on t23.

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RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-02-28 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Alan Mimms wrote:

 I think it would be MOST helpful if the linuxbios web site reflected
 true and accurate recent information.  It appears to be very out of date
 and doesn't even say how to get to freebios2 IIRC.  If I knew more of
 what WAS true and correct, I would offer to help update the site.  But
 alas, I am just lurking on this mailing list and absorbing what I can...


It is out of date. 

I have had volunteers to fix this up but nobody ever really actually ever 
has picked it up. Since one of the maintainers is not at Cray, it has been 
hard to keep it going. 

sorry about that.

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RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-02-28 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Ronald G. Minnich wrote:

 has picked it up. Since one of the maintainers is not at Cray, it has been 
now

sorry.

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RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-02-28 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Jamie Rollins wrote:

 I agree very strongly on this point.  If linuxbios is going to move
 forward, it's public face needs to be very well presented, which at the
 moment, it is not.  The linuxbios.org web site is very out of date.  
 The page desperately needs a documentation section, and a better way to
 download the most recent source code other than through the CVS.

volunteers?

I've really got a day job that eats most of my waking hours. 

I used to have more time for the web site but my free time is almost zero. 

I'm willing to have someone else take it over. I have no problems with 
this. 


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RE: new free software foundation crusade: http: //www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-02-28 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Josh England wrote:

 The offer still stands to host SVN for the freebios trees as well as
 host linuxbios.org, plan9.net, etcI think the server is close to
 being ready.  We'll have to figure out how to best transfer the CVS
 history over to SVN -- I've heard the tools for that are not the best.

good stuff. I think linuxbios.org web pages will be somewhere but SVN 
would be nice on the sandia.org host.

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Re: Porting Linuxbios to Via P4m266A

2005-02-28 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Kevin O'Connor wrote:

 I think a two computer solution might be easier.  If one can get early
 serial on the target machine, then a small romcc program could read
 commands from the serial port, execute them, and transmit back the
 results.  (I think I even saw an email from someone that did this in pure
 assembler.)

That is a *very* cool idea. 


 Then, a specially modified emulator could run the original bios on a second
 machine, forwarding memory reads/writes and io reads/writes through the
 serial port to the target machine.

I like it a lot.

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RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-02-28 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Andreas Thienemann wrote:
 [new website]
  volunteers?
 Well, I would volunteer to a) create the new webpage and b) set it up with 
 some kind of CMS so that someone else can fill it with content.

OK, guys, we've got a new web site for linuxbios, courtesy Stefan. 

Check it out: wiki.linuxbios.org

 Only problem: I have been trying to get linuxbios running on one of our 
 epia boards and failed horribly.

that's because somebody appears to have busted linuxbios/epia recently :-(

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RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-02-28 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Alan Mimms wrote:

 Woo.  Very nice.  Thanks to all - maybe we can create some nice content
 for this cool new container!  I will do what I can when I have some
 content to share.

Yh Lu did a great job of adding content to day. 

I am hoping to get guys like Eric and Richard Smith to get accounts and 
add content!

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RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-02-28 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Alan Mimms wrote:

 One problem tho: no form for creating usernames.  Was this intentional?

yes. Creating users who can edit the pages is going to pass through sysops 
so we don't have people randomly dropping in and trashing the pages. Plan 
9 wiki had a terrible time with this until they locked things down. Every 
once in a while all the Plan 9 wiki would end up with links to porn sites. 

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Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-02-28 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, ramesh bios wrote:

 PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device
 :00:0b.0.

what kernel? 

It matters. 

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Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-02-28 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, ramesh bios wrote:

 I used Linux 2.6.10. I'm reading through the list
 archive now for any related kernel issues.

From 2.4.19 on, the IRQ parser for PIRQ tables for geodes is broken. 

That could be part of the problem. 

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Re: A Four X Solution?

2005-02-27 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
I like your idea, but linuxbios and thinkpads are hopeless. Sorry.

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Re: Porting Linuxbios to Via P4m266A

2005-02-24 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Any pointers? my mail archive does not throw up aything.

it's complex. You have to compile the emulator with romcc, and then romcc 
uses the standard bios as the target. It would be a heroic hack!

But, at the end, we would have the ability to run the fuctory BIOS from 
power-on under emulation and work out all the chip secrets.

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Re: Porting Linuxbios to Via P4m266A

2005-02-24 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Detection of size and speed?. Suppose we freeze on a particular ram 
 type only for starters.

good plan. 

 I was hoping that by comparing some other similiar via chipset bios with
 this one I could probably make a guess (with plenty of hand holding from
 you guys) of important events. Then use that as a template to get things
 going. I am presuming that the current crop of devices wont be wildly
 different.

It's worth a try, it sometimes works, sometimes fails to do it this way. I 
failed on the Intel 855GME but that was partly a lack-of-time issue.

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Re: Build error on the EPIA-M

2005-02-24 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
it's clear we failed to update that target. I have some epia work to do 
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Re: Python config file options

2005-02-24 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, corentin hache wrote:

 Is there a file or a website where I can find informations about all
 possibles options ?

I'm sorry, there is not. I started to write it up and as usual ran out of 
time ...

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Re: [Etherboot-developers] freeebios project

2005-02-24 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
Ramesh:

go to linuxbios.sf.net, take it from there. 



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Re: On Thursday 24 February 2005 20:32, Ronald G. Minnich wrote:

2005-02-24 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 which would be easier / successful emulator or comparing with the 
 EPIA stuff.

I would try the emulator that is in linuxbios src tree already, not BOCHS.

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Re: Build error on the EPIA-M

2005-02-24 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Adam Talbot wrote:

 Well, its a step in the right direction, I updated the configs and started
 the compile... ERROR!!
 Any ideas on this one. Am I missing something in my configs?

this may be obsolete code, compare against the amd southbridge code.

sorry.

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Re: Porting Linuxbios to Via P4m266A

2005-02-23 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 22 February 2005 22:09, Ronald G. Minnich wrote:
  I would love it if you could do that port. You need to get data
  from via on how the chips work. That is your first step.
 
 Argh!!. That would take forever if at all.Isnt there another way?
 Like simulator or gdb or reading up stuff from the kernel since that
 already works with the motherboard.

it's hardware and there is no other way.

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Re: yet another reason to use linuxbios in laptops I guess

2005-02-22 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
yeah, I hit this problem 2 weeks ago. Tried to put an X24 minicard into a 
T41 and got the same error. 

I hate fuctory BIOS.

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Re: Porting Linuxbios to Via P4m266A

2005-02-22 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
I would love it if you could do that port. You need to get data from via 
on how the chips work. That is your first step.

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Re: Any update on linuxbios for laptops

2005-02-22 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Justin Rietz wrote:

 I have been following/searching this mailing list, and
 haven't been able to find whether or not there has /
 will be a successful attempt at linuxbios on a laptop.

we need a cooperative company. IBM *almost* was one, but it did not work 
out. I tried linspire, and there was interest, but not at the high levels. 

It's hard.

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Re: Porting nVidia's Crush chip - I seem to be having smbus trouble.

2005-02-22 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Ken Fuchs wrote:

 I'm porting LinuxBIOS to nVidia's CK8-04 (nForce4) chip.  Currently, the
 serial port is working and I believe the soft reset is working OK.

sure wish we could get a release. Are you doing reverse engineering or ...

thanks

ron
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