Re: LinuxBIOS for ARM or Merging LinuxBIOS with BLOB

2002-09-26 Thread ollie lho

On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 14:30, Bari Ari wrote:
 ollie lho wrote:
 
 Do you know if Blob can load uClinux ?? I found that most of the ARM 
 bootloaders only support ARM-Linux. (Am I wrong ??)
 
   
 
 Blob is written to be OS independent, but I don't believe anyone has had 
 it working with uClinux yet. Lineo has had it working on thier version 
 of linux along with network boot.
 

Bari,
Do you know if there is any OSS bootloader for uClinux on ARM ??
Ollie


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Re: LinuxBIOS for ARM; or Merging LinuxBIOS with BLOB

2002-09-26 Thread chester



On 26 Sep 2002, ollie lho wrote:

 On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 15:22, Bari Ari wrote:
 
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: LinuxBIOS for ARM or Merging LinuxBIOS with
  BLOB]
  Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 03:04:41 -0400
  From: Thomas Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Bari Ari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  CC: lart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  that is not true i have armboot booting uclinux on
  atmel eb40, oki  and a customed dev board  quite nice...
  i looked at blob myself and thought armboot was much easier to work with
 

 Do you have any patch avaliable ?? The code on CVS only have support for 720T
 and 920T. I am porting it to Integrator MB and CM940T.

 Ollie


I think it's most of the same under bootloader,most of bootlaoder
didn't enable MMU in booting.


CK.

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Re: LinuxBIOS for ARM or Merging LinuxBIOS with BLOB

2002-09-25 Thread Ronald G Minnich

I like the idea of pulling the blob code into linuxbios, then we get a
standard.

Is there a recommended xscale development card?

ron

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Re: LinuxBIOS for ARM or Merging LinuxBIOS with BLOB

2002-09-25 Thread Bari Ari

Ronald G Minnich wrote:

I like the idea of pulling the blob code into linuxbios, then we get a
standard.

Is there a recommended xscale development card?

  

The LART project http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/  is an open hardware 
platform based on the old SA1100. I believe they are working on a new 
SA-1110 and PXA-250 design.

Aleph One http://www.aleph1.co.uk/armlinux/LART/index.html  may still 
have some LART's in stock.

For PXA Intel has a dev board 
 
http://developer.intel.com/design/pca/applicationsprocessors/tools_software/dbpxa250.htm

For Xscale Intel has the IXCDP1100 dev board 
http://developer.intel.com/design/network/products/cpp/ixcdp1100.htm  

For the IXP1200 they have the IXDP1200 platform 
http://developer.intel.com/design/network/products/npfamily/ixdp1200.htm

For the IXP2400 and IXP2800  
http://developer.intel.com/design/network/products/npfamily/ixdp2x00.htm

For the IOP321  http://www.intel.com/design/iio/docs/iop321.htm

the PXA-250 is very popular for handheld and PDA designs, they have just 
added MMX instructions to the PXA so it will be a hot platform for 
handheld gaming, Mpeg-4, MP3 devices.  The IXP processors are used for 
networking applications and the IOP for storage applications.

The new iPAQ 3900 also makes for a budget 400MHz PXA250 dev platform. 
http://www.handhelds.org has quite a bit of software and How-To's on 
firmware conversions and updates for handhelds.

Bari



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Re: LinuxBIOS for ARM or Merging LinuxBIOS with BLOB

2002-09-25 Thread ollie lho

On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 01:44, Bari Ari wrote:
 Has anyone else here worked with BLOB?
 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/blob
 
 Blob is a boot loader for SA11x0 (StrongARM) platforms and is just 
 starting to support PXA and Xscale processors. Blob is able to boot a 
 Linux kernel stored in flash or RAM and provide that kernel with a 
 ramdisk (again from flash or RAM). The current BLOB binary is only about 
 7.2KB and the complete source tree is around 750KB.
 

I am also surveying bootloader for ARM architecture for some internal 
development project. I have looked at many ARM bootloaders recently.
  
 BLOB is mostly written in C with some Assembly much like LinuxBIOS.
 
 We're considering merging all the work with Etherboot and LinuxBIOS with 
 BLOB somehow to get LinuxBIOS and Etherboot working with ARM and Xscale 
 processors. It would be nice to be able to share all of this between 
 platforms.
 

Did you tried the ARMboot and PPCboot ?? These bootloaders have network 
boot built-in now. I also think they have better source directory 
structures.


Ollie


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Re: LinuxBIOS for ARM or Merging LinuxBIOS with BLOB

2002-09-25 Thread ollie lho

On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 08:51, Bari Ari wrote:
 ollie lho wrote:
 
 Did you tried the ARMboot and PPCboot ?? These bootloaders have network 
 boot built-in now. I also think they have better source directory 
 structures.
   
 
 ARMboot http://sourceforge.net/projects/armboot  and 
  http://armboot.sourceforge.net/  may be a better fit since the 
 structure is similar to the PPCboot  http://ppcboot.sourceforge.net/  
 project.
 
 This would help to standardize LinuxBIOS for three different platforms.
 
 All you'd need next is a MIPSboot  and SHboot project and everything 
 would be just about covered :-)
 

We should start a project call OmniBoot (not OmniBook^TM) which can boot
any architecture.

Ollie


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