Re: Porting Linuxbios to Via P4m266A

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have written back asking for permission to disclose the contents
 without NDA. I have pointed out the benefits they are going to derive.  
 Let's see how it goes. I have a feeling that they may allow disclosure
 without NDA.

another option is to ask for permission to release code but not release 
the material. VIA has done that for me in the past. 

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Re: error in making bios

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Ramesh Chhaba wrote:

 Hi All ,
 
 I was just trying to make a linuxBIOS for epic.
 at last step it gives error .
 
 ././buildrom linuxbios.strip linuxbios.rom
 ../../../../../lnxieepro100.ebi 0x1 0x2
 ../../../../../lnxieepro100.ebi: No such file or
 directory

it needs that file. So you need to provide that file or make your own 
Config file with a different file.

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Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote:

 Ok, thanks again for educating me!

so, peter, you want to accumulate the Glossary for us :-)

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Re: [wiki] v2 PC-Chips support

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Justin C. Darby wrote:

 I seem to remember LinuxBIOS having a few PC-Chips motherboards supported, but
 there is currently no mention of it on the page.
 
 Is this not in v2?

It is not in v2. 

 Are any of the supported PC-Chips motherboards still in production or
 use that should be in the documentation?

Not sure.

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Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Justin C. Darby wrote:

 If someone can point me in the right direction (in the source, I'd guess) to
 find all of the configuration options without descriptions I can setup a page
 dedicated to explaining them one at a time.
 


src/config/Options.lb


What's nice is the format greg watson worked up is amenable to processing 
to produce html. I think this ought to be easy to autmoate.

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Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote:

 Thats a good idea.  What about adding a description section where
 this info is filled out.  Then the config tool would generate some
 sort of  text file in the target directory describing all the options
 that are set.  

Makefile.settings

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Re: FILO dependencies

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I'm using FILO with nVidia reference board with a CK804. I've got
 LinuxBIOS to load FILO and FILO sees the IDE controller but not the
 drive.  I thought FILO was device independent, but could the IDE
 controllers on the CK804 require FILO changes?

Wow, you've taken this far. 

Not sure yet. I need  a board, so guess we'll order some.
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Re: FILO dependencies

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, yhlu wrote:

 Why not try Etherboot at first? That would be easier.

we've never found it to be easier, but that is a point of disagreement 
between several places :-)

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Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich

for shadow ram, you need to enable writes to go to ram. Later on, when you 
are done with a region, you need to enable reads. 

So the way you do this: figure out which one is for 0xf. Enable writes 
(2). At the end of the process, you need to set (3) for the area. 


And, somebody will have to explain how this fits in with the new stuff, as 
I have not looked at shadow ram setup at all in V2!

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Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-03 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote:

 --
 I2C - Inter-Integrated-Circuit, a bidirectional 2-wire bus for efficient
 inter-IC control. See 'http://www.esacademy.com/faq/i2c/index.htm' for more
 info.

this is fine.

 And as someone else mentioned that explanation of config options is
 needed; why not use doxygen (or similar tool), which seems a really easy
 way to document the code and outputs, text, html, LaTeX etc.?

Actually, when you build a target, you can then type
make documentation

and should get docs for that board.

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Re: Anyone tried LinuxBIOS with freeBSD?

2005-03-04 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, YhLu wrote:

 Anyone tried LinuxBIOS with freeBSD?
 

I talked to freebsd guys about it. Freebsd makes BIOS calls, so that would 
need to be fixed.

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Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-04 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, ramesh bios wrote:

 Ok, so I tried this specific sequence and it failed.
 
 making region read/write

nope. you need to make it write-only, 



 Verifing priq routing tables copy at 0xf...failed,

then copy

The make it read-write.

 Could it be that f is mapped to the flash? 

yes, it's supposed to be!


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Re: Version Control

2005-03-04 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Eric W. Biederman wrote:

 Ron does this sound like something you would be willing to look at?

by all means!

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Re: linuxbios on k7sem with 2.6.x kernel?

2005-03-04 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Markus Wolters wrote:

 Is it possible to use a 2.6 kernel?

yes

 Is it possible to use the original bios chip?

DON'T DO THAT. if you don't have a backup chip, don't try it.

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Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-04 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Ronald G. Minnich wrote:

 
 
 On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, ramesh bios wrote:
 
  Ok, so I tried this specific sequence and it failed.
  
  making region read/write
 
 nope. you need to make it write-only, 

arg, I'm not thinking, we are running out of high memory and then RAM. 

So making it read/write should have worked. Blash.

Dump the memory at 0xf BEFORE and AFTER you copy the PIRQ.

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Re: ASUS and linuxbios

2005-03-06 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
I was talking to ASUS at one point but the conversation faltered. I can 
try again. Pick a mobo you really want to see it done for.

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Re: Does anybody needs LinuxBIOS for VMware virtual machines?

2005-03-07 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Dmitriy Budko wrote:

 Does anybody needs LinuxBIOS for VMware virtual machines?
 If you want it please describe why do you want it.

it would sure make it easier to do full-up sims of linuxbios-equipped 
systems.

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RE: Does anybody needs LinuxBIOS for VMware virtual machines?

2005-03-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Dmitriy Budko wrote:

 So, you don't need it for production systems, only for development, 
 do you?

I would say so. 

 How difficult is it to port Intel 440BX chipset support from
 V1 to V2?

easy. Been done. Ask Richard Smith.

 It seems to me that supporting a new SIO chips (the emulated 
 NS PC97338/PC87338) should be easy.

yes.


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Re: Does anybody needs LinuxBIOS for VMware virtual machines?

2005-03-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote:

 Yep. not to bad.  I've got the beginnings of the port already done.  I
 got hung up on getting my dump_spd routine to return somthing else
 besides zero.  Its really wierd.  I can actually see the data on the
 SMbus happening but I don't ever seem to get a result back.

ah, richard, it just occurred to me. A lot of the spd code starts the op, 
and waits for the 'active' bit to go to 0 in the status. If the CPU is too 
fast, it will sample the 'active' bit before the smbus hardware starts to 
do anything. Then you read back bad data. 

As I found on some chipsets, the CPU can be too fast, and it should:
1. start op
2. wait for 'smbus active' indicator to go to 1
3. wait for 'smbus active' indicator to go to 0

is this by any chance your problem?

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Re: Version Control

2005-03-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Eric W. Biederman wrote:

 The next piece to investigate is how we plan on publishing and
 committing changes.  The bread and butter of a version control system.  
 Ron are you far enough along in playing with arch that you are ready for
 that piece of the conversation?

nope. Have not had time to look as I have been sick. Fooey. 

The only issue I worry about is making sure that vendors have One Place To 
Go for as they do know (i.e. sourceforge.net). It seems to me that 
openbios.org could be that place. Sound ok?

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Re: Version Control

2005-03-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Stefan Reinauer wrote:

 We could either use pqm or add ssh keys for each commiter. How many are
 there currently?

I think maybe 8 or so active.

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Re: Version Control

2005-03-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, yhlu wrote:

 Can we put the server in US instead of EU?

I'm afraid to ask this question, but why does it matter? EU patent issues?

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we need to sequence this

2005-03-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich

we need a 'controlled shutdown' of the  cvs project so we can do a clean 
cut over to tla. 

Can we pick a day and time? midnight this saturday or some such? Do we all 
trust tla enough to go for it?

What stepan could do is an import, and at the same time we shut down 
commits to the cvs. 

Sound ok?

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Re: we need to sequence this

2005-03-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, YhLu wrote:

 why does the Linux kernel use bitkeeper? 

because it is really really good. Xen uses it too. 

IBM uses it extensively and they were trying to convince us to use it for 
linuxbios. 

But Larry's 'rules of engagement' for free use of the software are not 
aceeptable to some of our contributors, so for this project we are not 
going to use it.


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Re: we need to sequence this

2005-03-08 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Stefan Reinauer wrote:

 How does closing the tree work? We can also tag it and leave it sitting
 there with a notice that it is obsolete.

I am not sure how to close it. Possibly remove all developers this 
weekend. 

And, no commits post-midnight of this sunday. 

Something like that.

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Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-09 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, ramesh bios wrote:

 So what do you guys think I should do? Do you agree
 with my assessment above? The easiest thing to do
 would be to add a linux kernel boot parameter that'll
 allow LinuxBIOS to tell filo to tell the kernel
 exactly where in sdram the uncompressed PIRQ table is.

yes, but then you have to keep maintaining your patch. 

 I think I can do that. Alternately, since we know that Fh is the
 start of the flash, could we just reserve that small section of flash
 for storing an uncompressed PIRQ table and leave everything else as is.

yes, but you're going to have to figure out how to do that :-)

I think the simplest is CONFIG_COMPRESS=0, and just don't worry about it. 
LinuxBIOS fits, right? Then don't worry about it.

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Re: Anyone tried LinuxBIOS with freeBSD?

2005-03-10 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, yhlu wrote:

 if remove FreeBSD's dependence on BIOS calls. can we move pci bus
 routine from Linux Kernel to them?
 
 Is any license problem with that?

yes. 

But I think freebsd would work fine without bios calls, when I looked it 
was informational calls they made such as memory size, etc.

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Re: Help with EPIA

2005-03-10 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 1st, what settings do you have in the Config.lb for enabling the IDE
 controllers
 - they should be in compatibility mode (I think).

yes, and they are not. I did notice that. 

 2nd, I'm curious to know how stable your raminit appears to be, I've
 been having problems with it hanging reading the spd eprom on the
 dimm's.

yes, overall the southbridge seems to be significantly less reliable than 
it used to be. We have seen the same hang.

The code is much better, we just have to shake it out a little.


 3rd, I have a cleaned up version of the southbridge/via/vt8231/vt8231.c
 ready to commit after Ron checks it over, if you'd like to test it, I
 can email you the diff (plus a few changes to the Options.lb and
 Config.lb)

I think we're interested in that!

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Re: LinuxBios support for the ELAN SC520

2005-03-10 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
I'd still like to find an elan board that:
- has removable flash part
- flash part is the standard QFP, not DIP. 
- has a working bios.


This combination seems to be really hard to find!

Any pointers?

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Re: LinuxBios support for the ELAN SC520

2005-03-10 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
Dave, this is *exactly* what I'm looking for. Thanks!

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Re: LinuxBios support for the ELAN SC520

2005-03-10 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Peter Stuge wrote:

 Not to be a pain, but to clarify, that's a PLCC package. QFP looks
 like this:

Thank you. I have been getting that wrong since the package was invented. 
Sorry.

Anyone who wants to put this in the FAQ, be my guest :-)

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Re: Help with EPIA

2005-03-10 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Josiah England wrote:

 As Ron said, there are no such settings.  How do I set them in
 compatibility mode?

Josiah, let's you, me, and Ollie sit down tomorrow and walk this code. I 
think it will be pretty easy.

thanks

 That problem has reared up a few times.  Quite odd how intermittent it
 is - seems to just start happenning on some builds and rarely thereafter
 gets past initialization, then on another build (with no different
 settings), it works fine indefinately.

it's not the build, it's a wacky race condition.


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Re: LinuxBios support for the ELAN SC520

2005-03-11 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Peter Stuge wrote:

 Done. How do I identify the BIOS chip on my mainboard?

ah, I love the wiki.

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Re: glossary update...

2005-03-11 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote:

 Is there any interest in adding
 this to the linuxBIOS wiki?

yes, this is a great start at a common glossary.

Wonderful! thanks!

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cutting over

2005-03-14 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the new mailing list. I will shut the old one 
down in a day or two. Hope you call get this.

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Re: Looking for advise for DiskOnChip Tyan s2850 setup

2005-03-14 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Thomas Wehrspann wrote:

 You need a DiskOnChip Millenium (no 2000). Those were only available with 8MB 
 and aren't produced anymore.

ONLY if you're going to use DoC-only with no bios flash. 

If you're going to use DoC in addition to bios flash, any DoC will do, I 
think.

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looking for an OS hacker

2005-03-14 Thread Ronald G. Minnich

I hope nobody minds the spam but os hacker jobs can be hard to find, as 
opposed to java web applet hackers. 

If you go to the LANL job site, and look at job #209754, that is to work 
for me on OS stuff. Go ahead and apply if interested.

US citizenship is best.

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Re: [LinuxBIOS] cutting over

2005-03-14 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Tyson Sawyer wrote:

 Do we need to move ourselves over or will the existing list of subscribers be
 moved?

gets moved automagically, (i.e. stefan) but you should be getting dup mail 
emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Neither IDE Port Enabled

2005-03-16 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
what platform is this?

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This list is shutting down

2005-03-17 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
In a very short time, possibly today, this list will stop. All traffic 
should now be on the openbios version of this list.

thanks

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Re: Disk On Chip strangeness

2005-03-17 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Gregg C Levine wrote:

 Just how hard is it to render these things unreadable, or even
 unusable by normal methods?

sometimes I've had them just die on me. I wonder if that's what happened 
to you.

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Re: How to flash the bios?

2005-03-20 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Markus Wolters wrote:

 I have compiled and build freebios and everything went ok. The romimage is
 at /usr/src/freebios/build.
 
 My mainboard is a K7SEM. When I do flash_rom, this error message appears :
 2f is 0xfd
 
 EEPROM not found

What type of flash part is it
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Re: Error in compiling STPC Consumer

2005-03-24 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote:

 On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 05:54:17 + (GMT), Ramesh Chhaba 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yes Sir , 
   u was right that I was missing that payload = line in configuration :) 
  So I have aded that line 
  and also enabled STD_FLASH 
  and ELF_BOOT 
  options and also added 
  PAY_LOAD_SIZE = 64KB 
  and ROM_SIZE =126KB 
  But I want to make my romimage within 256KB 

  So what options I acn change to do that 
  currently my image is 356 (approx) KB 
 
 PAY_LOAD_SIZE is not a maximum size.  its the blocksize option thats
 used in the 'dd' statemnet that copies the payload into a file.  So
 64k is the minimum it will be but it could be 128k, 192k, 256k, etc.
 
 Make your ROM_SIZE be the size you want the image - payload size.  You
 can see all the magic for this in the makefile that the config tool
 generates.  I remember I had to tweak with my numbers till I got to to
 come out the right size.
 
 356k seems a little large for just linubios and etherboot.  How big is
 your payload?
 


this is a clear FAQ entry.

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Re: Error in compiling STPC Consumer

2005-03-24 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote:

 think I would still make v1 people ask so we can tell them not to use
 v1.

ah, good point. Hey richard, previous letter, question is:
Q. Should I use V1? 
A. Your previous letter

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Re: NSC sc1100 port

2005-03-29 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, William J Beksi wrote:

 Has anyone ported or working on porting the National Semicondutor sc1100 cpu?
is that an x86? intel has an 1100 too ... it's an ARM.

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Re: Intel StorageStation port

2005-03-29 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Dave Mills wrote:

 Chipset Intel 430TX

try the digitallogic/ p5 target in freebios 1. 

same north.

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Re: Amlcode structure generation [PMX:#]

2005-03-29 Thread Ronald G. Minnich



just a note, please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] from here on out. I will 
give this transition a few more days. Please fix your address books!

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Re: Amlcode structure generation [PMX:#]

2005-03-30 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Stefan Reinauer wrote:

 * Ronald G. Minnich rminnich@lanl.gov [050329 23:32]:
  
  
  
  just a note, please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] from here on out. I will 
   
   linuxbios@openbios.org

ah, sorry, tired fingers type wrong words.

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Re: Tyan 2850 video output

2005-04-02 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Alexey wrote:

 My goal is to see the whole boot process on display.

you mean linuxbios messages too? 

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Re: demo cluster

2005-04-12 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, YhLu wrote:

 in the wiki, you said
 At LANL, we are building a new 'no moving parts' 16-node cluster to
 demonstrate this capability.
 
 only linuxbios + bproc there?
 
 what's MB?

probably amd sc520 based

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Re: post code fe means what ?

2005-04-12 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Huang-Jen Wang wrote:

 Hi All,
 I tried to build  a linuxbios for Arima Hdama, but the rom can't work
 I use a debug card , and it shows post code fe
 what dose it mean?

that's I thought the last code before jumping to payload.
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Re: LinuxBIOS Pentium-M embedded boards

2005-04-14 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Tobias Erichsen wrote:

 Has there been any success to get any of those going
 with LinuxBIOS?

no, as Intel does not want it to happen. They are determined to ensure 
that no future Intel hardware can run linuxbios. They have stated as much 
to me directly. I am hoping this situation will change at some point, 
however, as some larger customers are starting to ask for LinuxBIOS.

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Re: Building error

2005-04-24 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Huang-Jen Wang wrote:

 my phthon version is 2.2.2, and my linux is Red Hat 9.0

hmm. Can you try something a little more modern?

I don't understand the error you are seeing.

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Re: Geode GX2

2005-04-26 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
lots of people are interested in this, I'm trying to find out who to talk 
to at amd.

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Re: Geode GX2

2005-04-26 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, William J Beksi wrote:

 I have the source files (cpu setup, southbridge, northbridge) for the NSC
 Geode GX1/GX2 orginally written by Christer Weinigel. I'm not sure, but it may
 have been in the Linuxbios cvs a long time ago?

it's been in v1 for years. 

 
 I have it working on an Informtech S7 board running an NSC Geode GX1 except
 for the serial console.
 
 I believe AMD did not change the architecture after buying out the Geode from
 NSC, so this should work for AMD Geodes.

I guess hamish could use the code, he is the geode guy now.

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RE: DiskOnChip and PLCC32 packages

2005-04-27 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Seb James wrote:

 Great. Would LILO also function as a payload for LinuxBIOS?

no. LILO makes bios calls. Sorry :-(

Use FILO!

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Re: Building error

2005-06-15 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
what version of python do you have on your machine? what distro is this?

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Re: Booting Linux using netboot and HD

2005-06-15 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
I strongly recommend filo for people trying to boot off ide. It just plain 
works for me and etherboot, though it is wonderful, has not been as 
reliable.

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Re: Booting Linux using netboot and HD

2005-06-15 Thread Ronald G. Minnich


On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, beneo wrote:

 Does filo support ext3 file system? the intruduction say it supports ext2,
 but didn't say anything about ext3. If it doesn't support ext3, does it mean
 I have to re-install Linux to ext2?

IIRC read-only ext3 can almost always be read by ext2 file system code.

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