mpc5200b custom board upstreamable?

2008-04-24 Thread Sascha Hauer

Hi all,

I had the intention to push the code for a custom mpc5200b board (freely
available, no internal project) upstream. After cleaning up the code I
realized that actually no board specific code is left and our board is
well handled by the mpc5200_simple_platform machine.

The only issue is that the machine only matches things like
schindler,cm5200, there's no generic entry. Would it be possible to
add a generic-mpc52xx entry to this list?

Another question: are defconfig and dts files for custom boards acceptable
for upstream?

Sascha

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Re: mpc5200b custom board upstreamable?

2008-04-24 Thread Grant Likely
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Sascha Hauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi all,

  I had the intention to push the code for a custom mpc5200b board (freely
  available, no internal project) upstream. After cleaning up the code I
  realized that actually no board specific code is left and our board is
  well handled by the mpc5200_simple_platform machine.

  The only issue is that the machine only matches things like
  schindler,cm5200, there's no generic entry. Would it be possible to
  add a generic-mpc52xx entry to this list?

I'm being cautious about this for the time being.  I'd like to have a
generic match mechanism, but I don't want to do something that isn't
easy to recover from if it turns out to be brain dead.  For now, just
add your board name to the explicit match list.


  Another question: are defconfig and dts files for custom boards acceptable
  for upstream?

Yes, in the arch/powerpc/configs/52xx/ directory.

Cheers,
g

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Re: mpc5200b custom board upstreamable?

2008-04-24 Thread Sascha Hauer
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 09:13:45AM -0600, Grant Likely wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Sascha Hauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hi all,
 
   I had the intention to push the code for a custom mpc5200b board (freely
   available, no internal project) upstream. After cleaning up the code I
   realized that actually no board specific code is left and our board is
   well handled by the mpc5200_simple_platform machine.
 
   The only issue is that the machine only matches things like
   schindler,cm5200, there's no generic entry. Would it be possible to
   add a generic-mpc52xx entry to this list?
 
 I'm being cautious about this for the time being.  I'd like to have a
 generic match mechanism, but I don't want to do something that isn't
 easy to recover from if it turns out to be brain dead.  For now, just
 add your board name to the explicit match list.

The board is called generic. No, just kidding ;)

 
 
   Another question: are defconfig and dts files for custom boards acceptable
   for upstream?
 
 Yes, in the arch/powerpc/configs/52xx/ directory.

ok

Sascha

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Re: mpc5200b custom board upstreamable?

2008-04-24 Thread Sascha Hauer
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:07:20AM -0600, Grant Likely wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Sascha Hauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 09:13:45AM -0600, Grant Likely wrote:
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Sascha Hauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi all,

  I had the intention to push the code for a custom mpc5200b board 
  (freely
  available, no internal project) upstream. After cleaning up the code I
  realized that actually no board specific code is left and our board is
  well handled by the mpc5200_simple_platform machine.

  The only issue is that the machine only matches things like
  schindler,cm5200, there's no generic entry. Would it be possible to
  add a generic-mpc52xx entry to this list?
   
I'm being cautious about this for the time being.  I'd like to have a
generic match mechanism, but I don't want to do something that isn't
easy to recover from if it turns out to be brain dead.  For now, just
add your board name to the explicit match list.
 
   The board is called generic. No, just kidding ;)
 
 /me slaps Sascha
 
 Seriously though; I do intend to fix this, but I don't think adding a
 generic entry to the compatible list is the right way to do it.  For
 example, what would mpc5200-generic really mean anyway?  Convention
 for usage of 'compatible' would indicate that it means the *entire
 board* is compatible (obviously not true).  The use-case you're
 talking about is simply the board uses a 5200 and firmware is sane.
 On the other hand, I may just be overthinking things and compatible is
 the most appropriate place to specify that the board is a mpc5200
 based board.  (please feel free to argue with my; my opinion can
 probably be swayed... attaching promises of beer to your argument is
 probably an effective strategy)

At the moment my compatible entry looks like this:

compatible = phytec,pcm030,generic-mpc52xx;

What I think would be nice is that phytec,pcm030 support is used
when available and generic-mpc52xx as a fallback. We do not have any
platform specific hacks at the moment, but we may have later. Having
phytec,pcm030 in the simple machine would prevent us from doing so.

 
 This is an issue that probably affects the other embedded platforms
 too, so it would be nice to agree on a common method of handling it.
 
 Regardless, whatever method is chosen, it is also important that it is
 always possible for board specific fixups to override the generic
 behavior.

agreed

Sascha


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Re: mpc5200b custom board upstreamable?

2008-04-24 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt

On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 18:28 +0200, Sascha Hauer wrote:
 
 At the moment my compatible entry looks like this:
 
 compatible = phytec,pcm030,generic-mpc52xx;
 
 What I think would be nice is that phytec,pcm030 support is used
 when available and generic-mpc52xx as a fallback. We do not have any
 platform specific hacks at the moment, but we may have later. Having
 phytec,pcm030 in the simple machine would prevent us from doing so.

No, please avoid that 'generic' stuff for now, for all the good reasons
Grant gave. It might be nice but we aren't there yet. It's trivial to
add phytec,pcm030 to the list we support and use that for now.

If you do a rev tomorrow that is still compatible and in fact is very
close to the pcm030 programmatically and call it pcm035, then you could
do something like

compatible = phytec,pcm035, phytec,pcm030.

But don't toy with generic things, they sound like good ideas but they
ultimately come back and bite us.

Cheers,
Ben.


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