Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] [PATCH libwacom] Mark 2nd-gen non-professional "Intuos" devices (CTH-X90) as "Bamboo" class

[Peter Hutterer]

On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 05:20:26PM -0700, Ping Cheng wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Peter Hutterer  
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 02:33:05PM -0700, Ping Cheng wrote:
> >> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:25 AM, Jason Gerecke  
> >> wrote:
> >> > These devices are much more similar to the Bamboo line of devices than to
> >> > the original professional "Intuos" devices (GD-) that are nearly 20
> >> > years old at this point. The 1st-gen non-professional "Intuos" devices
> >> > (CTH-X80) are also marked as "Bamboo" class, FWIW.
> >>
> >> My questions are:
> >>
> >> How the "Class" key word is used? What's the targeted use cases/clients?
> >
> > It was meant as a general category but tbh, I don't think anyone uses it.
> >
> >> I ask the questions since the Intuos stylus we are talking about in
> >> this data file follows the professional stylus features/data format.
> >> But, its touch follows Bamboo data format. So, by "Class", are we
> >> talking about the tablet itself, the stylus that works on the tablet,
> >> or something else?
> >
> > it's not really well defined, the class was added when the bamboos were
> > quite different to the intuos series (buttons at the top vs buttons+ring on
> > the side). So beyond going with 'try to stay consistent' there isn't really
> > a rule.
> >
> > I think the only really useful class right now is WCLASS_REMOTE because the
> > EKR is really different to everything else.
> 
> Ok, I see. That makes sense. It's mainly for tablet
> buttons/expresskeys/pad (well, depends on where to look for its names
> ;).

Looking at the history of the WCLASS enum, it all started with the classes
of devices that were around back then (I3, I4, Graphire, Bamboo and Cintiq).
Over time some more classes were added but recently we haven't really done
so. The only meaningful addition imo was the WCLASS_REMOTE because that is
the only device class that really is different from the others (everything
else you can get from the number of buttons etc.) Pads aren't actually
tagged specifically or anything, the classe refer mainly to the product
lines.

> Maybe we should update wacom.example to give it a bit of hint?

sure, please send a patch :)

Cheers,
   Peter

> 
> Thanks,
> Ping
> 
> >> I guess those questions are for Peter, the godfather of libwacom, to
> >> answer. From the definition in wacom.example below
> >>
> >> # Class of the tablet. Valid classes include Intuos3, Intuos4,
> >> Graphire, Bamboo, Cintiq
> >> # If unsure, or not applicable (the tablet isn't stand-alone for
> >> # example), just leave it out.
> >>
> >> We may need to "just leave it out"?
> >
> > I'd say let's merge this one because it is consistent with the 1st gen as
> > Jason said.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >Peter
> >
> >>
> >> Ping
> >>
> >> > Signed-off-by: Jason Gerecke 
> >> > ---
> >> >  data/intuos-m-p2.tablet  | 2 +-
> >> >  data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet | 2 +-
> >> >  data/intuos-s-p2.tablet  | 2 +-
> >> >  data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet | 2 +-
> >> >  4 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> >> >
> >> > diff --git a/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet b/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
> >> > index 2c4b2a6..2c5b9de 100644
> >> > --- a/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
> >> > +++ b/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
> >> > @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@
> >> >  [Device]
> >> >  Name=Intuos Pen Medium
> >> >  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033d
> >> > -Class=Intuos
> >> > +Class=Bamboo
> >> >  Width=9
> >> >  Height=5
> >> >  Layout=intuos-m-p2.svg
> >> > diff --git a/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet b/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
> >> > index 4549c4f..4806b76 100644
> >> > --- a/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
> >> > +++ b/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
> >> > @@ -37,7 +37,7 @@
> >> >  [Device]
> >> >  Name=Intuos Pen & Touch Medium
> >> >  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033e
> >> > -Class=Intuos
> >> > +Class=Bamboo
> >> >  Width=9
> >> >  Height=5
> >> >  Layout=intuos-m-pt2.svg
> >> > diff --git a/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet b/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
> >> > index df42d11..1894c89 100644
> >> > --- a/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
> >> > +++ b/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
> >> > @@ -22,7 +22,7 @@
> >> >  [Device]
> >> >  Name=Intuos Pen Small
> >> >  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033b
> >> > -Class=Intuos
> >> > +Class=Bamboo
> >> >  Width=6
> >> >  Height=4
> >> >  Layout=intuos-s-p2.svg
> >> > diff --git a/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet b/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
> >> > index a7f5f19..6fa504b 100644
> >> > --- a/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
> >> > +++ b/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
> >> > @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
> >> >  [Device]
> >> >  Name=Intuos Pen & Touch Small
> >> >  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033c
> >> > -Class=Intuos
> >> > +Class=Bamboo
> >> >  Width=6
> >> >  Height=4
> >> >  Layout=intuos-s-pt2.svg
> >> > --
> >> > 2.14.1
> >> >

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Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] [PATCH libwacom] Mark 2nd-gen non-professional "Intuos" devices (CTH-X90) as "Bamboo" class

[Ping Cheng]

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Peter Hutterer  wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 02:33:05PM -0700, Ping Cheng wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:25 AM, Jason Gerecke  wrote:
>> > These devices are much more similar to the Bamboo line of devices than to
>> > the original professional "Intuos" devices (GD-) that are nearly 20
>> > years old at this point. The 1st-gen non-professional "Intuos" devices
>> > (CTH-X80) are also marked as "Bamboo" class, FWIW.
>>
>> My questions are:
>>
>> How the "Class" key word is used? What's the targeted use cases/clients?
>
> It was meant as a general category but tbh, I don't think anyone uses it.
>
>> I ask the questions since the Intuos stylus we are talking about in
>> this data file follows the professional stylus features/data format.
>> But, its touch follows Bamboo data format. So, by "Class", are we
>> talking about the tablet itself, the stylus that works on the tablet,
>> or something else?
>
> it's not really well defined, the class was added when the bamboos were
> quite different to the intuos series (buttons at the top vs buttons+ring on
> the side). So beyond going with 'try to stay consistent' there isn't really
> a rule.
>
> I think the only really useful class right now is WCLASS_REMOTE because the
> EKR is really different to everything else.

Ok, I see. That makes sense. It's mainly for tablet
buttons/expresskeys/pad (well, depends on where to look for its names
;).

Maybe we should update wacom.example to give it a bit of hint?

Thanks,
Ping

>> I guess those questions are for Peter, the godfather of libwacom, to
>> answer. From the definition in wacom.example below
>>
>> # Class of the tablet. Valid classes include Intuos3, Intuos4,
>> Graphire, Bamboo, Cintiq
>> # If unsure, or not applicable (the tablet isn't stand-alone for
>> # example), just leave it out.
>>
>> We may need to "just leave it out"?
>
> I'd say let's merge this one because it is consistent with the 1st gen as
> Jason said.
>
> Cheers,
>Peter
>
>>
>> Ping
>>
>> > Signed-off-by: Jason Gerecke 
>> > ---
>> >  data/intuos-m-p2.tablet  | 2 +-
>> >  data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet | 2 +-
>> >  data/intuos-s-p2.tablet  | 2 +-
>> >  data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet | 2 +-
>> >  4 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet b/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
>> > index 2c4b2a6..2c5b9de 100644
>> > --- a/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
>> > +++ b/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
>> > @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@
>> >  [Device]
>> >  Name=Intuos Pen Medium
>> >  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033d
>> > -Class=Intuos
>> > +Class=Bamboo
>> >  Width=9
>> >  Height=5
>> >  Layout=intuos-m-p2.svg
>> > diff --git a/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet b/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
>> > index 4549c4f..4806b76 100644
>> > --- a/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
>> > +++ b/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
>> > @@ -37,7 +37,7 @@
>> >  [Device]
>> >  Name=Intuos Pen & Touch Medium
>> >  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033e
>> > -Class=Intuos
>> > +Class=Bamboo
>> >  Width=9
>> >  Height=5
>> >  Layout=intuos-m-pt2.svg
>> > diff --git a/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet b/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
>> > index df42d11..1894c89 100644
>> > --- a/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
>> > +++ b/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
>> > @@ -22,7 +22,7 @@
>> >  [Device]
>> >  Name=Intuos Pen Small
>> >  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033b
>> > -Class=Intuos
>> > +Class=Bamboo
>> >  Width=6
>> >  Height=4
>> >  Layout=intuos-s-p2.svg
>> > diff --git a/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet b/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
>> > index a7f5f19..6fa504b 100644
>> > --- a/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
>> > +++ b/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
>> > @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
>> >  [Device]
>> >  Name=Intuos Pen & Touch Small
>> >  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033c
>> > -Class=Intuos
>> > +Class=Bamboo
>> >  Width=6
>> >  Height=4
>> >  Layout=intuos-s-pt2.svg
>> > --
>> > 2.14.1
>> >

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Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] [PATCH libwacom] Mark 2nd-gen non-professional "Intuos" devices (CTH-X90) as "Bamboo" class

[Peter Hutterer]

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 07:25:30AM -0700, Jason Gerecke wrote:
> These devices are much more similar to the Bamboo line of devices than to
> the original professional "Intuos" devices (GD-) that are nearly 20
> years old at this point. The 1st-gen non-professional "Intuos" devices
> (CTH-X80) are also marked as "Bamboo" class, FWIW.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jason Gerecke 

pushed, thanks

   d14f423..3cbcaaf  master -> master

Cheers,
   Peter

> ---
>  data/intuos-m-p2.tablet  | 2 +-
>  data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet | 2 +-
>  data/intuos-s-p2.tablet  | 2 +-
>  data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet | 2 +-
>  4 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet b/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
> index 2c4b2a6..2c5b9de 100644
> --- a/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
> +++ b/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
> @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@
>  [Device]
>  Name=Intuos Pen Medium
>  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033d
> -Class=Intuos
> +Class=Bamboo
>  Width=9
>  Height=5
>  Layout=intuos-m-p2.svg
> diff --git a/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet b/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
> index 4549c4f..4806b76 100644
> --- a/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
> +++ b/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
> @@ -37,7 +37,7 @@
>  [Device]
>  Name=Intuos Pen & Touch Medium
>  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033e
> -Class=Intuos
> +Class=Bamboo
>  Width=9
>  Height=5
>  Layout=intuos-m-pt2.svg
> diff --git a/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet b/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
> index df42d11..1894c89 100644
> --- a/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
> +++ b/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
> @@ -22,7 +22,7 @@
>  [Device]
>  Name=Intuos Pen Small
>  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033b
> -Class=Intuos
> +Class=Bamboo
>  Width=6
>  Height=4
>  Layout=intuos-s-p2.svg
> diff --git a/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet b/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
> index a7f5f19..6fa504b 100644
> --- a/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
> +++ b/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
> @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
>  [Device]
>  Name=Intuos Pen & Touch Small
>  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033c
> -Class=Intuos
> +Class=Bamboo
>  Width=6
>  Height=4
>  Layout=intuos-s-pt2.svg
> -- 
> 2.14.1
> 

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Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] [PATCH libwacom] Mark 2nd-gen non-professional "Intuos" devices (CTH-X90) as "Bamboo" class

[Peter Hutterer]

On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 02:33:05PM -0700, Ping Cheng wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:25 AM, Jason Gerecke  wrote:
> > These devices are much more similar to the Bamboo line of devices than to
> > the original professional "Intuos" devices (GD-) that are nearly 20
> > years old at this point. The 1st-gen non-professional "Intuos" devices
> > (CTH-X80) are also marked as "Bamboo" class, FWIW.
> 
> My questions are:
> 
> How the "Class" key word is used? What's the targeted use cases/clients?

It was meant as a general category but tbh, I don't think anyone uses it.

> I ask the questions since the Intuos stylus we are talking about in
> this data file follows the professional stylus features/data format.
> But, its touch follows Bamboo data format. So, by "Class", are we
> talking about the tablet itself, the stylus that works on the tablet,
> or something else?

it's not really well defined, the class was added when the bamboos were
quite different to the intuos series (buttons at the top vs buttons+ring on
the side). So beyond going with 'try to stay consistent' there isn't really
a rule.

I think the only really useful class right now is WCLASS_REMOTE because the
EKR is really different to everything else.

> I guess those questions are for Peter, the godfather of libwacom, to
> answer. From the definition in wacom.example below
> 
> # Class of the tablet. Valid classes include Intuos3, Intuos4,
> Graphire, Bamboo, Cintiq
> # If unsure, or not applicable (the tablet isn't stand-alone for
> # example), just leave it out.
> 
> We may need to "just leave it out"?

I'd say let's merge this one because it is consistent with the 1st gen as
Jason said.

Cheers,
   Peter

> 
> Ping
> 
> > Signed-off-by: Jason Gerecke 
> > ---
> >  data/intuos-m-p2.tablet  | 2 +-
> >  data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet | 2 +-
> >  data/intuos-s-p2.tablet  | 2 +-
> >  data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet | 2 +-
> >  4 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet b/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
> > index 2c4b2a6..2c5b9de 100644
> > --- a/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
> > +++ b/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
> > @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@
> >  [Device]
> >  Name=Intuos Pen Medium
> >  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033d
> > -Class=Intuos
> > +Class=Bamboo
> >  Width=9
> >  Height=5
> >  Layout=intuos-m-p2.svg
> > diff --git a/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet b/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
> > index 4549c4f..4806b76 100644
> > --- a/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
> > +++ b/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
> > @@ -37,7 +37,7 @@
> >  [Device]
> >  Name=Intuos Pen & Touch Medium
> >  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033e
> > -Class=Intuos
> > +Class=Bamboo
> >  Width=9
> >  Height=5
> >  Layout=intuos-m-pt2.svg
> > diff --git a/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet b/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
> > index df42d11..1894c89 100644
> > --- a/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
> > +++ b/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
> > @@ -22,7 +22,7 @@
> >  [Device]
> >  Name=Intuos Pen Small
> >  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033b
> > -Class=Intuos
> > +Class=Bamboo
> >  Width=6
> >  Height=4
> >  Layout=intuos-s-p2.svg
> > diff --git a/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet b/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
> > index a7f5f19..6fa504b 100644
> > --- a/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
> > +++ b/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
> > @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
> >  [Device]
> >  Name=Intuos Pen & Touch Small
> >  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033c
> > -Class=Intuos
> > +Class=Bamboo
> >  Width=6
> >  Height=4
> >  Layout=intuos-s-pt2.svg
> > --
> > 2.14.1
> >

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Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] [PATCH libwacom] Mark 2nd-gen non-professional "Intuos" devices (CTH-X90) as "Bamboo" class

[Ping Cheng]

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:25 AM, Jason Gerecke  wrote:
> These devices are much more similar to the Bamboo line of devices than to
> the original professional "Intuos" devices (GD-) that are nearly 20
> years old at this point. The 1st-gen non-professional "Intuos" devices
> (CTH-X80) are also marked as "Bamboo" class, FWIW.

My questions are:

How the "Class" key word is used? What's the targeted use cases/clients?

I ask the questions since the Intuos stylus we are talking about in
this data file follows the professional stylus features/data format.
But, its touch follows Bamboo data format. So, by "Class", are we
talking about the tablet itself, the stylus that works on the tablet,
or something else?

I guess those questions are for Peter, the godfather of libwacom, to
answer. From the definition in wacom.example below

# Class of the tablet. Valid classes include Intuos3, Intuos4,
Graphire, Bamboo, Cintiq
# If unsure, or not applicable (the tablet isn't stand-alone for
# example), just leave it out.

We may need to "just leave it out"?

Ping

> Signed-off-by: Jason Gerecke 
> ---
>  data/intuos-m-p2.tablet  | 2 +-
>  data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet | 2 +-
>  data/intuos-s-p2.tablet  | 2 +-
>  data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet | 2 +-
>  4 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet b/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
> index 2c4b2a6..2c5b9de 100644
> --- a/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
> +++ b/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
> @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@
>  [Device]
>  Name=Intuos Pen Medium
>  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033d
> -Class=Intuos
> +Class=Bamboo
>  Width=9
>  Height=5
>  Layout=intuos-m-p2.svg
> diff --git a/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet b/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
> index 4549c4f..4806b76 100644
> --- a/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
> +++ b/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
> @@ -37,7 +37,7 @@
>  [Device]
>  Name=Intuos Pen & Touch Medium
>  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033e
> -Class=Intuos
> +Class=Bamboo
>  Width=9
>  Height=5
>  Layout=intuos-m-pt2.svg
> diff --git a/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet b/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
> index df42d11..1894c89 100644
> --- a/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
> +++ b/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
> @@ -22,7 +22,7 @@
>  [Device]
>  Name=Intuos Pen Small
>  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033b
> -Class=Intuos
> +Class=Bamboo
>  Width=6
>  Height=4
>  Layout=intuos-s-p2.svg
> diff --git a/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet b/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
> index a7f5f19..6fa504b 100644
> --- a/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
> +++ b/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
> @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
>  [Device]
>  Name=Intuos Pen & Touch Small
>  DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033c
> -Class=Intuos
> +Class=Bamboo
>  Width=6
>  Height=4
>  Layout=intuos-s-pt2.svg
> --
> 2.14.1
>

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[Linuxwacom-devel] [PATCH libwacom] Mark 2nd-gen non-professional "Intuos" devices (CTH-X90) as "Bamboo" class

[Jason Gerecke]

These devices are much more similar to the Bamboo line of devices than to
the original professional "Intuos" devices (GD-) that are nearly 20
years old at this point. The 1st-gen non-professional "Intuos" devices
(CTH-X80) are also marked as "Bamboo" class, FWIW.

Signed-off-by: Jason Gerecke 
---
 data/intuos-m-p2.tablet  | 2 +-
 data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet | 2 +-
 data/intuos-s-p2.tablet  | 2 +-
 data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet | 2 +-
 4 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet b/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
index 2c4b2a6..2c5b9de 100644
--- a/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
+++ b/data/intuos-m-p2.tablet
@@ -24,7 +24,7 @@
 [Device]
 Name=Intuos Pen Medium
 DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033d
-Class=Intuos
+Class=Bamboo
 Width=9
 Height=5
 Layout=intuos-m-p2.svg
diff --git a/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet b/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
index 4549c4f..4806b76 100644
--- a/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
+++ b/data/intuos-m-pt2.tablet
@@ -37,7 +37,7 @@
 [Device]
 Name=Intuos Pen & Touch Medium
 DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033e
-Class=Intuos
+Class=Bamboo
 Width=9
 Height=5
 Layout=intuos-m-pt2.svg
diff --git a/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet b/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
index df42d11..1894c89 100644
--- a/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
+++ b/data/intuos-s-p2.tablet
@@ -22,7 +22,7 @@
 [Device]
 Name=Intuos Pen Small
 DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033b
-Class=Intuos
+Class=Bamboo
 Width=6
 Height=4
 Layout=intuos-s-p2.svg
diff --git a/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet b/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
index a7f5f19..6fa504b 100644
--- a/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
+++ b/data/intuos-s-pt2.tablet
@@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
 [Device]
 Name=Intuos Pen & Touch Small
 DeviceMatch=usb:056a:033c
-Class=Intuos
+Class=Bamboo
 Width=6
 Height=4
 Layout=intuos-s-pt2.svg
-- 
2.14.1


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