Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-11-26 Thread Ryan Coleman
I’ve done the full install and with a 64GB SSD - I sliced off 50GB for the OS 
and the rest for a swap (I like to overkill that sometimes).

It’s performing VERY well. We don’t have to reboot the firewall… ever. 


 On Nov 25, 2014, at 8:47 PM, Volker Kuhlmann hid...@paradise.net.nz wrote:
 
 On Thu 30 Oct 2014 00:12:05 NZDT +1300, Odette Nsaka wrote:
 
  I'm going to switch from MMC/SD to SSD on APU.
 
 Good move.
 
 Does anyone have any suggestion or experience? Are SSD drives on PC engines 
 shop reliable to make a full install or do you suggest to stay on NanoBSD 
 install?
 
 Full of course, come on, you've got a pretty decent PC with heaps of
 RAM. Not exactly embedded-sized, save the VGA output you never need
 anyway, and the power consumption. Nano is for rock-bottom hardware
 specs, which the APU is not.
 
 Thinking SSDs are the way to go I put in a PC Engines SSD (good price,
 afterall) with updated firmware as soon as it became available in
 mid/late May, and added squid and squidguard for my own protection. Bad
 idea. Pfsense locked dead for the first time in early Sep, got pretty
 hot too (does the CPU clock/power control fail with disk IO errors?).
 Bottom line, squid and SSD are not a good combo.
 
 The new SSDs from PC Engines with physon controller are much better,
 good SMART support too, but my plan is to run pfsense of the SSD and
 locate the squid cache and log files on a 2.5 spinning platter. With PC
 Engines' special SATA cable it might still all fit into the case.
 
 pfsense 2.1.5
 
 Volker
 
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Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-11-26 Thread compdoc
 Bottom line, squid and SSD are not a good combo.

Ive used several SSDs over the years running pfSense and linux and windows 
OSes. Work just like hard drives, except might actually be more reliable.

There is one exception: none of the SSDs I used were PC Engines.

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[pfSense] PCengine APU sleepness

2014-11-26 Thread Odette Nsaka
Hi there

   finally (see the thread [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD on 
this mailing list ) I opted for a full install with /var anf /tmp on ramdisk 
on one APU and an ebbedded one fon another APU. They are both working fine.

But, on both, I have some issues with the web interface:
if I'm working (refreshing frequently the web pages) everything works fine and 
fast.

But if i leave the browser open on a web page for a while (minutes) and do 
nothing , when I try to access again the web interface, the pf web server 
seems to be very slow, so slow that often the browser gives up with time-out 
error, as if the APU, php engine or the web server were fallen aspept and 
needs some time to wake up.

The next request, if asked in a few seconds, is answered very fast (alredy 
awaken ???).

I did not experience similar lags or reactivity issues of the other components 
not web related. 

I don't remember a similar behaviour on Alix or PC

Did someone experience a similar behaviour? Suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

   Odette

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Re: [pfSense] PCengine APU sleepness

2014-11-26 Thread Ryan Coleman
Have you tried another web browser? I suspect it has nothing to do with the 
hardware or software but your client. I have not had this type of issue before.

—
Ryan



 On Nov 26, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Odette Nsaka odette.ns...@libero.it wrote:
 
 Hi there
 
   finally (see the thread [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD on 
 this mailing list ) I opted for a full install with /var anf /tmp on ramdisk 
 on one APU and an ebbedded one fon another APU. They are both working fine.
 
 But, on both, I have some issues with the web interface:
 if I'm working (refreshing frequently the web pages) everything works fine 
 and 
 fast.
 
 But if i leave the browser open on a web page for a while (minutes) and do 
 nothing , when I try to access again the web interface, the pf web server 
 seems to be very slow, so slow that often the browser gives up with time-out 
 error, as if the APU, php engine or the web server were fallen aspept and 
 needs some time to wake up.
 
 The next request, if asked in a few seconds, is answered very fast (alredy 
 awaken ???).
 
 I did not experience similar lags or reactivity issues of the other 
 components 
 not web related. 
 
 I don't remember a similar behaviour on Alix or PC
 
 Did someone experience a similar behaviour? Suggestions?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
   Odette
 
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Re: [pfSense] PCengine APU sleepness

2014-11-26 Thread Chris Buechler
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Ryan Coleman ryan.cole...@cwis.biz wrote:
 Have you tried another web browser? I suspect it has nothing to do with the 
 hardware or software but your client. I have not had this type of issue 
 before.


Agree, sounds that way. What it sounds most like might be the browser
hanging onto the TCP connection it was using, but that connection was
actually closed or timed out (though at defaults, the fully
established idle TCP connection would take 24 hours for the state to
timeout at the firewall), or was deleted for some reason. Then the
browser wants to sit there and try and try and try to use its old
now-dead connection.

That's generally only an issue when you reboot a system, or manually
clear its state table, but could happen under other circumstances
potentially.
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[pfSense] Returning gateways

2014-11-26 Thread Marcus van Dam

Hi,

I am running on 2.2-BETA (amd64) for quite a while now, everything is 
fine except for one mayor annoyance;
How to trash a gateway? I have a couple of interfaces with their IPv4 
and IPv6 config set to none, for example VPN tunnels. Or IPv4 only 
interfaces. If I try to delete the unnecessary IPv6 gateway or both they 
just re-appear, enabled and all. Of course never reaching up status for 
the various reasons.


Is it a bug, a feature or my fault? :)

-Marcus
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Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-11-26 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Thu 27 Nov 2014 04:41:42 NZDT +1300, compdoc wrote:

  Bottom line, squid and SSD are not a good combo.

 Ive used several SSDs over the years running pfSense and linux and
 windows OSes. Work just like hard drives, except might actually be
 more reliable.

From the discussion in this thread it's clear that only good-quality
expensive SSDs can be counted on, and that they have to be several
times over-sized, adding more to the cost. Best is not to write to them
too then, if possible. ;-)

It's a lot of expense compared to the cost of an APU board. Smaller
spinning disks in good shape are frequently free from upgrade leftovers.

Volker

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Re: [pfSense] Returning gateways

2014-11-26 Thread Chris Buechler
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Marcus van Dam mar...@marcusvandam.nl wrote:
 Hi,

 I am running on 2.2-BETA (amd64) for quite a while now, everything is fine
 except for one mayor annoyance;
 How to trash a gateway? I have a couple of interfaces with their IPv4 and
 IPv6 config set to none, for example VPN tunnels. Or IPv4 only interfaces.
 If I try to delete the unnecessary IPv6 gateway or both they just re-appear,
 enabled and all. Of course never reaching up status for the various reasons.


Sounds like what should happen, and what's always happened, by design.
Dynamic gateways should be there in most VPN circumstances with an
assigned OpenVPN interface, and can't be deleted. They act the same as
a DHCP or other dynamic-type interface in that regard. You don't have
to use them, and can disable monitoring on them if you want, but they
have to be there.
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Re: [pfSense] Returning gateways

2014-11-26 Thread Marcus van Dam

Hhmm, I see; just didn't remember it was like that before.

I did notice that we can now delete the gateway from the OpenVPN tap 
device (bridged to em1). Any chance we can then at least hide disabled 
gateways from the status pages? The IPv4 gateway on a SixXS tunnel will 
never come up for example.


On that same note, we also have the OpenVPN rules tab, but rules are 
handled in it's separate interface tab. Or in case of some bridge 
members, not at all.


Slightly off-topic: If you bridge a tap with an lan interface, would you 
recommend filtering on the lan or the bridge it self (tap - lan should 
be transparently bridged.)


On 11/26/2014 11:02 PM, Chris Buechler wrote:

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Marcus van Dam mar...@marcusvandam.nl wrote:

Hi,

I am running on 2.2-BETA (amd64) for quite a while now, everything is fine
except for one mayor annoyance;
How to trash a gateway? I have a couple of interfaces with their IPv4 and
IPv6 config set to none, for example VPN tunnels. Or IPv4 only interfaces.
If I try to delete the unnecessary IPv6 gateway or both they just re-appear,
enabled and all. Of course never reaching up status for the various reasons.



Sounds like what should happen, and what's always happened, by design.
Dynamic gateways should be there in most VPN circumstances with an
assigned OpenVPN interface, and can't be deleted. They act the same as
a DHCP or other dynamic-type interface in that regard. You don't have
to use them, and can disable monitoring on them if you want, but they
have to be there.
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