Re: [pfSense] [MOTION TO END THREAD] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by "big brother" NSA or others?

2013-10-10 Thread Thinker Rix


*I think I speak for everyone who was a member of this list before 
10:20 AM EST today when I say that this discussion does not belong 
here and we would all like it to stop.*




I guess it is wise to just speak for yourself, instead of using this 
cheap rhetorical trick to pretend being a majority.

And by the way, I am a member of this list for quite a while.

*This list is NOT a place where anyone is welcome to barge in and tell 
people "the proper way" of using it.*




Exactly. How about you follow your own advice?

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Re: [pfSense] [MOTION TO END THREAD] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by "big brother" NSA or others?

2013-10-09 Thread Joseph Landman
Third

Please pardon brevity and typos ... Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:38 PM, Jason Whitt  wrote:

I second this motion







*From:* list-boun...@lists.pfsense.org [
mailto:list-boun...@lists.pfsense.org ] *On
Behalf Of *Yehuda Katz
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 09, 2013 3:30 PM
*To:* pfSense support and discussion
*Subject:* [pfSense] [MOTION TO END THREAD] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by
"big brother" NSA or others?



On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Thinker Rix 
wrote:

Can this flame be put to an end or continued via private mail?

But: Interpreting your message, I guess you are participating at this
mailing list with a mail reader that just pours all incoming mail into one
folder - which is not "the proper way" to read mailing lists.
Please let me inform you that it is highly advisable to participate at
mailing lists only with a mail reader that allows you to view incoming mail
in "threaded mode". This way you only get to read messages that interest
you, instead of being flooded by all messages of all users with all
subjects.



*I think I speak for everyone who was a member of this list before 10:20 AM
EST today when I say that this discussion does not belong here and we would
all like it to stop.*

*Use pfSense or don't. Inspect the code yourself, trust that it is OK, or
not.*

*Either way, this list is for helping the users, not for discussing
politics, personal attacks, or anything else.*



*This list is NOT a place where anyone is welcome to barge in and tell
people "the proper way" of using it.*

*Again, I think I speak for everyone that we, the list members, do not want
to "let [you] inform [us] that it is highly advisable" to do anything.
(Maybe if you have significant relevant experience in pf-based firewalls or
other project components and you are providing a solution to a question
that was specifically asked, but otherwise this is not the place.)*



*Unless there is something significant to add to this (or any members more
than ~7 hours old who disagree), do not reply to it.*



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Re: [pfSense] [MOTION TO END THREAD] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by "big brother" NSA or others?

2013-10-09 Thread Christian Borchert
I third.

Motion passes!


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Jason Whitt  wrote:

> I second this motion
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* list-boun...@lists.pfsense.org [mailto:
> list-boun...@lists.pfsense.org] *On Behalf Of *Yehuda Katz
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 09, 2013 3:30 PM
> *To:* pfSense support and discussion
> *Subject:* [pfSense] [MOTION TO END THREAD] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated
> by "big brother" NSA or others?
>
> ** **
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Thinker Rix 
> wrote:
>
> Can this flame be put to an end or continued via private mail?
>
> But: Interpreting your message, I guess you are participating at this
> mailing list with a mail reader that just pours all incoming mail into one
> folder - which is not "the proper way" to read mailing lists.
> Please let me inform you that it is highly advisable to participate at
> mailing lists only with a mail reader that allows you to view incoming mail
> in "threaded mode". This way you only get to read messages that interest
> you, instead of being flooded by all messages of all users with all
> subjects.
>
> ** **
>
> *I think I speak for everyone who was a member of this list before 10:20
> AM EST today when I say that this discussion does not belong here and we
> would all like it to stop.*
>
> *Use pfSense or don't. Inspect the code yourself, trust that it is OK, or
> not.*
>
> *Either way, this list is for helping the users, not for discussing
> politics, personal attacks, or anything else.*
>
> ** **
>
> *This list is NOT a place where anyone is welcome to barge in and tell
> people "the proper way" of using it.*
>
> *Again, I think I speak for everyone that we, the list members, do not
> want to "let [you] inform [us] that it is highly advisable" to do anything.
> (Maybe if you have significant relevant experience in pf-based firewalls or
> other project components and you are providing a solution to a question
> that was specifically asked, but otherwise this is not the place.)*
>
> ** **
>
> *Unless there is something significant to add to this (or any members
> more than ~7 hours old who disagree), do not reply to it.*
>
> ** **
>
> - Y
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Re: [pfSense] [MOTION TO END THREAD] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by "big brother" NSA or others?

2013-10-09 Thread Jason Whitt
I second this motion

 

 

 

From: list-boun...@lists.pfsense.org [mailto:list-boun...@lists.pfsense.org]
On Behalf Of Yehuda Katz
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 3:30 PM
To: pfSense support and discussion
Subject: [pfSense] [MOTION TO END THREAD] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by
"big brother" NSA or others?

 

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Thinker Rix 
wrote:

Can this flame be put to an end or continued via private mail?

But: Interpreting your message, I guess you are participating at this
mailing list with a mail reader that just pours all incoming mail into one
folder - which is not "the proper way" to read mailing lists.
Please let me inform you that it is highly advisable to participate at
mailing lists only with a mail reader that allows you to view incoming mail
in "threaded mode". This way you only get to read messages that interest
you, instead of being flooded by all messages of all users with all
subjects.

 

I think I speak for everyone who was a member of this list before 10:20 AM
EST today when I say that this discussion does not belong here and we would
all like it to stop.

Use pfSense or don't. Inspect the code yourself, trust that it is OK, or
not.

Either way, this list is for helping the users, not for discussing politics,
personal attacks, or anything else.

 

This list is NOT a place where anyone is welcome to barge in and tell people
"the proper way" of using it.

Again, I think I speak for everyone that we, the list members, do not want
to "let [you] inform [us] that it is highly advisable" to do anything.
(Maybe if you have significant relevant experience in pf-based firewalls or
other project components and you are providing a solution to a question that
was specifically asked, but otherwise this is not the place.)

 

Unless there is something significant to add to this (or any members more
than ~7 hours old who disagree), do not reply to it.

 

- Y

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[pfSense] [MOTION TO END THREAD] NSA: Is pfSense infiltrated by "big brother" NSA or others?

2013-10-09 Thread Yehuda Katz
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Thinker Rix wrote:

> Can this flame be put to an end or continued via private mail?
>>
> But: Interpreting your message, I guess you are participating at this
> mailing list with a mail reader that just pours all incoming mail into one
> folder - which is not "the proper way" to read mailing lists.
> Please let me inform you that it is highly advisable to participate at
> mailing lists only with a mail reader that allows you to view incoming mail
> in "threaded mode". This way you only get to read messages that interest
> you, instead of being flooded by all messages of all users with all
> subjects.
>

*I think I speak for everyone who was a member of this list before 10:20 AM
EST today when I say that this discussion does not belong here and we would
all like it to stop.
*
*Use pfSense or don't. Inspect the code yourself, trust that it is OK, or
not.*
*Either way, this list is for helping the users, not for discussing
politics, personal attacks, or anything else.*
*
*
*This list is NOT a place where anyone is welcome to barge in and tell
people "the proper way" of using it.
*
*Again, I think I speak for everyone that we, the list members, do not want
to "let [you] inform [us] that it is highly advisable" to do anything.
(Maybe if you have significant relevant experience in pf-based firewalls or
other project components and you are providing a solution to a question
that was specifically asked, but otherwise this is not the place.)*
*
*
*Unless there is something significant to add to this (or any members more
than ~7 hours old who disagree), do not reply to it.*

- Y
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