RE: [WSG] WebSite Feedback !

[Peter Firminger]

Thanks for the link? It's on the bottom of every post!

If you have some help for Marvin, please feel free to continue this thread.
If not, THE END.

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RE: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

[Eric Colley - GoldSpace.com]

I'm referring to normal emails, not listserve type emails like this one.

Thanks for the link, however.

Eric

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From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Christian Montoya
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:31 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

On 11/25/06, Eric Colley - GoldSpace.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I hate it when people trim their message in reply.  I'm constantly 
> getting emails from people with some quick answer in response to 
> something, and I have no idea what they are referring to, because they 
> delete the previous text from the email.  I think it is a bad idea to trim
emails like that.
> Just my two cents.


They are only trying to be courteous:

Posting to the list (from http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm)

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Re: [WSG] Header Image Alignment[solved]

[CK]

On Nov 25, 2006, at 8:18 AM, CK wrote:


Hi,

Having issues getting the header BG to align as desired:




Here is the current rendering:



It's probably simple, please scold if some basic rule has been  
forgotten.








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Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

[James Crooke]

It's far better than advertising in your email signature.

On 11/25/06, Christian Montoya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> On 11/25/06, Tee G. Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > 4) people who uses hotmail or other webmail services and is innocent
> > like Marvin but being accused by you


On 11/25/06, James Crooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Everyone should use Gmail, it would solve annoyances 1 to 4.
>
>

Actually, the way to solve annoyance 4 is to change your attitude.
Telling someone to change their e-mail client is like telling someone
to change their browser, and we all know you can't expect that to
work. Besides, Gmail may be fancy but I doubt it is very accessible.

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Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

[Christian Montoya]

On 11/25/06, Eric Colley - GoldSpace.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I hate it when people trim their message in reply.  I'm constantly getting
emails from people with some quick answer in response to something, and I
have no idea what they are referring to, because they delete the previous
text from the email.  I think it is a bad idea to trim emails like that.
Just my two cents.



They are only trying to be courteous:

Posting to the list (from http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm)

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RE: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

[Eric Colley - GoldSpace.com]

I hate it when people trim their message in reply.  I'm constantly getting
emails from people with some quick answer in response to something, and I
have no idea what they are referring to, because they delete the previous
text from the email.  I think it is a bad idea to trim emails like that.
Just my two cents.
 
Eric

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From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of James Crooke
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 9:24 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback


Everyone should use Gmail, it would solve annoyances 1 to 4.


On 11/25/06, Tee G. Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


On Nov 22, 2006, at 3:36 AM, Luke wrote:

> I would like to remind you that there is a advertisement in you e-mail 
> signature.

Your message implied that the message from Marvin was a disguise and
that his true intention was to advertise some service.

FIY, webmails like Yahoo, hotmail, MSN and many others auto insert 
advertisement at the bottom of the email and Marvin was using hotmail
- there is nothing he could do about the advertisement accept unsub
from hotmail. If it bugs you, you have the following options"  1)
unsub; 2) make a  complaint to WSG admin, have them block members who
use yahoo, msn, hotmail and so on - let's pray god that your voice is
heard and your existence at WSG is essential to the WSG existence so
that it makes certain your compliant be heard and action be taken 
accordingly by WSG admin; or 3) be tolerate; nobody steps on your toes.

And I would like to ask, which one annoys you most:
1) people who use html email with his/her big company logo and listed
20 lines of the service he/she offers 
2) people who didn't turn off vacation notice
3) people who don't trim their messages in reply
4) people who uses hotmail or other webmail services and is innocent
like Marvin but being accused by you



Sincerely,

Tee G. Peng




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Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

[Christian Montoya]

On 11/25/06, Tee G. Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> 4) people who uses hotmail or other webmail services and is innocent
> like Marvin but being accused by you



On 11/25/06, James Crooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Everyone should use Gmail, it would solve annoyances 1 to 4.




Actually, the way to solve annoyance 4 is to change your attitude.
Telling someone to change their e-mail client is like telling someone
to change their browser, and we all know you can't expect that to
work. Besides, Gmail may be fancy but I doubt it is very accessible.

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Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

[Donna Jones]

Everyone should use Gmail, it would solve annoyances 1 to 4.


but then we get a new annoyance, invariably.  people who post two or 
three times because they're not seeing their initial message from gMail. 
   I vote for "just be tolerant".


best
Donna




On 11/25/06, Tee G. Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




On Nov 22, 2006, at 3:36 AM, Luke wrote:

> I would like to remind you that there is a advertisement in you e-mail
> signature.

Your message implied that the message from Marvin was a disguise and
that his true intention was to advertise some service.

FIY, webmails like Yahoo, hotmail, MSN and many others auto insert
advertisement at the bottom of the email and Marvin was using hotmail
- there is nothing he could do about the advertisement accept unsub
from hotmail. If it bugs you, you have the following options"  1)
unsub; 2) make a  complaint to WSG admin, have them block members who
use yahoo, msn, hotmail and so on - let's pray god that your voice is
heard and your existence at WSG is essential to the WSG existence so
that it makes certain your compliant be heard and action be taken
accordingly by WSG admin; or 3) be tolerate; nobody steps on your toes.

And I would like to ask, which one annoys you most:
1) people who use html email with his/her big company logo and listed
20 lines of the service he/she offers
2) people who didn't turn off vacation notice
3) people who don't trim their messages in reply
4) people who uses hotmail or other webmail services and is innocent
like Marvin but being accused by you



Sincerely,

Tee G. Peng




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Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

[James Crooke]

Everyone should use Gmail, it would solve annoyances 1 to 4.

On 11/25/06, Tee G. Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Nov 22, 2006, at 3:36 AM, Luke wrote:

> I would like to remind you that there is a advertisement in you e-mail
> signature.

Your message implied that the message from Marvin was a disguise and
that his true intention was to advertise some service.

FIY, webmails like Yahoo, hotmail, MSN and many others auto insert
advertisement at the bottom of the email and Marvin was using hotmail
- there is nothing he could do about the advertisement accept unsub
from hotmail. If it bugs you, you have the following options"  1)
unsub; 2) make a  complaint to WSG admin, have them block members who
use yahoo, msn, hotmail and so on - let's pray god that your voice is
heard and your existence at WSG is essential to the WSG existence so
that it makes certain your compliant be heard and action be taken
accordingly by WSG admin; or 3) be tolerate; nobody steps on your toes.

And I would like to ask, which one annoys you most:
1) people who use html email with his/her big company logo and listed
20 lines of the service he/she offers
2) people who didn't turn off vacation notice
3) people who don't trim their messages in reply
4) people who uses hotmail or other webmail services and is innocent
like Marvin but being accused by you



Sincerely,

Tee G. Peng




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Re: [WSG] Forms in XHTML 1.1

[Matthew Pennell]

On 11/25/06, Tim White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


And don't forget  -- it is, after all, designed to
hold form elements.



Almost - it is designed to group collections of form elements together,
usually because they are related to aid comprehension of the form.


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[WSG] Header Image Alignment

[CK]

Hi,

Having issues getting the header BG to align as desired:




Here is the current rendering:



It's probably simple, please scold if some basic rule has been  
forgotten.








"Freedom of speech, just watch what you say."
Ice-T
Censorship is in noway condoned by Bushidodeep.
Thus, the reason for direction to the following comic.
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Respectfully,
CK







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Re: [WSG] Forms in XHTML 1.1

[Tim White]

On 11/24/06, CK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've "googled" without results for the following question why is
>> necessary to place select elements in a  or other block level
>> element in order to validate as XHMTL 1.1?

>Because *all* inline elements must be inside a *block* level element,
>and that includes *all* inline elements within a form. ...

And don't forget  -- it is, after all, designed to hold 
form elements.

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Re: [WSG] WebSite Feedback

[Tee G. Peng]

On Nov 22, 2006, at 3:36 AM, Luke wrote:


I would like to remind you that there is a advertisement in you e-mail
signature.


Your message implied that the message from Marvin was a disguise and  
that his true intention was to advertise some service.


FIY, webmails like Yahoo, hotmail, MSN and many others auto insert  
advertisement at the bottom of the email and Marvin was using hotmail  
- there is nothing he could do about the advertisement accept unsub  
from hotmail. If it bugs you, you have the following options"  1)  
unsub; 2) make a  complaint to WSG admin, have them block members who  
use yahoo, msn, hotmail and so on - let's pray god that your voice is  
heard and your existence at WSG is essential to the WSG existence so  
that it makes certain your compliant be heard and action be taken  
accordingly by WSG admin; or 3) be tolerate; nobody steps on your toes.


And I would like to ask, which one annoys you most:
1) people who use html email with his/her big company logo and listed  
20 lines of the service he/she offers

2) people who didn't turn off vacation notice
3) people who don't trim their messages in reply
4) people who uses hotmail or other webmail services and is innocent  
like Marvin but being accused by you




Sincerely,

Tee G. Peng




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[WSG] Petition (Particularly for UK members)

[Rob Kirton]

As an advocate of web standards, and following the introduction of the
Disability Discrimination Act in the UK, I believe that UK Government should
at least adhere to the standards which they in theory enforce.

If in agreement and you wish to endorse a petition to remind them of their
obligations, please visit

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/govaccessibility/


- Rob

http://ele.vation.co.uk


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Re: [WSG] Forms in XHTML 1.1

[J . D . Welch]

On Nov 24, 2006, at 23:10 PM, Matthew Pennell wrote:


On 11/25/06, Christian Montoya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Because *all* inline elements must be inside a *block* level element

But a form IS a block-level element. The more accurate answer would  
be "because that's what the DTD says".


It's certainly not as arbitrary as that. The form element is a  
container for form controls and as such has nothing to do with  
presentation. All it indicates is "treat the enclosed controls as  
inputs for the script at X."


-jd

J.D. Welch
visual communication & user interface designer
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