Re: [WSG] CSS opacity filter

2007-02-17 Thread Tee G. Peng



On Feb 17, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Christian Fagan wrote:


Thanks for your response Tee.

Good work for actually finding the style sheet attached to the drop  
down menu in example 1.


"I believe filter does work for Opera, and absolutely for Safari.  
As of IE 5.5+, I don't believe it works unless you have declared  
IE's Proprietary Filter, which I don't see in your style sheet, and  
I don't see you have used conditional comments to serve IE."
Good to hear that it works on Safari but the IE issue is  
baffling. why, if the style sheet doesn't contain the correct  
"Proprietary filter" would it display perfectly in IE 5.5+??? I  
have seen it work on at least 6 other computers so definitely not  
just me and my and my dodgy browser...




Hi Christian,

Sorry, my mistake You already included IE's Proprietary filter  
directly in your CSS



filter: alpha(opacity=60);


So you are right that it works for IE 5.5 + - I see it works for IE 6  
and 7.   I never use any other IE's Proprietary filter except the  
Alpha PNG filter once or twice which I have it inserted in  
conditional comments, so when I wrote my mind was occupied by CC,  
didn't see that you have already included it in your stylesheet.


My Standalone IE 5.5 couldn't launched, sorry I can't check that for  
you.



tee




***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***

Re: Re: [WSG] CSS opacity filter

2007-02-17 Thread Christian Fagan




Thanks for your response Tee.

Good work for actually finding the style sheet attached to the drop
down menu in example 1.

"I believe filter does work for Opera, and absolutely for Safari. As
of
IE 5.5+, I don't believe it works unless you have declared IE's
Proprietary Filter, which I don't see in your style sheet, and I don't
see you have used conditional comments to serve IE."
Good to hear that it works on Safari but the IE issue is baffling.
why, if the style sheet doesn't contain the correct "Proprietary
filter" would it display perfectly in IE 5.5+??? I have seen it work on
at least 6 other computers so definitely not just me and my and my
dodgy browser...

Tee G. Peng wrote:
Hi
Christian, 
  
  On Feb 17, 2007, at 2:45 AM, Christian Fagan wrote:
  
   Hello list,

My question is regarding the CSS opacity filters:

    opacity:.60;
    filter: alpha(opacity=60);
    -moz-opacity: 0.6;



1st project: www.cataloguecentral.com.au
(top left dynamic menu)
2nd project: www.fagandesign.com.au/PROJECTS/UmamiByDesign/indexNew3.html
(top right menu)

In the first, the opacity attribute displays well across most major
browsers (IE 5.5+, FF, M, N - not Opera, not sure Safari).
In the second, the exact same declaration displays well in all browsers
but IE...
  
  
  
  
  
I believe filter does work for Opera, and absolutely for Safari. As of
IE 5.5+, I don't believe it works unless you have declared IE's
Proprietary Filter, which I don't see in your style sheet, and I don't
see you have used conditional comments to serve IE.
  
  
  In the first example, the reason it doesn't work in Opera, which
I think is because you declared the filter in the first descendent of
ul.
  
  
  ul li a:hover
  {
   text-decoration: none;
   opacity:.100;
   filter: alpha(opacity=100);
   -moz-opacity: 1.0;
   background-color: #303030;
   color: #ff !important;
  }
  
  
  My guess is Opera needs more specific declaration which is the
descendent of li, whereas Safari and FF are more lenient.
   
  ul ul li:hover {...}
  
  
  On a side note, you may want to change your 2nd project's right
vertical menu from  to ul.
  
  
  
  Home
  About
  Services
  
  
  
  In markup, p is for paragraph, not something else.
  
  
  
  
  tee
  
  
   
  
  
  
  
   
  
  
  
***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***


-- 
Christian Fagan
Fagan Design

0432 220 579
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.fagandesign.com.au




***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***



Re: [WSG] CSS opacity filter

2007-02-17 Thread Tee G. Peng

Hi Christian,
On Feb 17, 2007, at 2:45 AM, Christian Fagan wrote:


Hello list,

My question is regarding the CSS opacity filters:

opacity:.60;
filter: alpha(opacity=60);
-moz-opacity: 0.6;



1st project: www.cataloguecentral.com.au (top left dynamic menu)
2nd project: www.fagandesign.com.au/PROJECTS/UmamiByDesign/ 
indexNew3.html (top right menu)


In the first, the opacity attribute displays well across most major  
browsers (IE 5.5+, FF, M, N - not Opera, not sure Safari).
In the second, the exact same declaration displays well in all  
browsers but IE...



I believe filter does work for Opera, and absolutely for Safari. As  
of IE 5.5+, I don't believe it works unless you have declared IE's  
Proprietary Filter, which I don't see in your style sheet, and I  
don't see you have used conditional comments to serve IE.


In the first example, the reason it doesn't work in Opera, which I  
think is because you declared the filter in the first descendent of ul.


ul li a:hover
{
text-decoration: none;
opacity:.100;
filter: alpha(opacity=100);
-moz-opacity: 1.0;
background-color: #303030;
color: #ff !important;
}

My guess is Opera needs more specific declaration which is the  
descendent of li, whereas Safari and FF are more lenient.


ul ul li:hover {...}

On a side note, you may want to change your 2nd project's right  
vertical menu from  to ul.



Home
About
Services


In markup, p is for paragraph, not something else.


tee







***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***

[WSG] CSS opacity filter

2007-02-17 Thread Christian Fagan




Hello list,

My question is regarding the CSS opacity filters:

    opacity:.60;
    filter: alpha(opacity=60);
    -moz-opacity: 0.6;

I am working on a couple of projects at the moment, both having a menu
structure that makes use of these declarations.

1st project: www.cataloguecentral.com.au
(top left dynamic menu)
2nd project: www.fagandesign.com.au/PROJECTS/UmamiByDesign/indexNew3.html
(top right menu)

In the first, the opacity attribute displays well across most major
browsers (IE 5.5+, FF, M, N - not Opera, not sure Safari).
In the second, the exact same declaration displays well in all browsers
but IE...

Can anyone explain why? And, for that matter, can anyone explain the
general browser acceptance of the opacity attributes?

-- 
Christian Fagan
Fagan Design

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.fagandesign.com.au




***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***