Re: [WSG] Re: what do you use instead of embed
pdr Lists wrote: Hi Germ its just for a flash file which will act as the banner for the top of the webpage You will need the object … /object tag. Check out this excellent article ... I work this way, and code is widley supported by browsers, and passes validation. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/ thanks for links and help As for your second question: Also when i tried putting the a href tags on either side so that it was a link, it didnt work. any special reason?? I would think that it is because embed … /embed is a block-level elements, and a … /a is an inline element; From the W3: Generally, block-level elements may contain inline elements and other block-level elements. Generally, inline elements may contain only data and other inline elements. Inherent in this structural distinction is the idea that block elements create larger structures than inline elements. [http://www.w3.org/TR/1998/REC-html40-19980424/struct/ global.html#h-7.5.3] Regards, Peter -- Peter Dominic Ryan | raycity* : new media solutions : proven [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://raycity.com | mb: 0419 229 738 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** I was using the satay method as well, and its pretty good, until Opera renders both the object AND embed contents. Switch the swfobject and am good to go these days. Basically, there's no actual valid flash that works, sorry. There are methods to either display flash or alternative content, but thats about it. -- Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC http://sitesbyjoe.com (609)335-3076 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Re: what do you use instead of embed
Germ wrote: its just for a flash file which will act as the banner for the top of the webpage thanks for links and help I will look forward to hear the long answer ;) I have found this method quite useful: http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1081798064count=1 Kat ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Re: what do you use instead of embed
Personally I use a little bit of _javascript_ to handle the eolas patent in IE and the does not have flash alternative content issue, SWFobject is my personal choice. An equally good alternative is Unobtrusive Flash Objects-- Nick Cowiehttp://nickcowie.com **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
Re: [WSG] Re: what do you use instead of embed
I know this may sound stupid and dumb but is there a tag or something that you would use instead of an embed Just asking as it comes up as a warning when I valiadate a page im coding at the moment. Try this: http://www.mauzon.com/?p=36 -- С уважением, pepelsbey. http://pepelsbey.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Re: what do you use instead of embed
Hi Germ its just for a flash file which will act as the banner for the top of the webpage You will need the object … /object tag. Check out this excellent article ... I work this way, and code is widley supported by browsers, and passes validation. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/ thanks for links and help As for your second question: Also when i tried putting the a href tags on either side so that it was a link, it didnt work. any special reason?? I would think that it is because embed … /embed is a block-level elements, and a … /a is an inline element; From the W3: Generally, block-level elements may contain inline elements and other block-level elements. Generally, inline elements may contain only data and other inline elements. Inherent in this structural distinction is the idea that block elements create larger structures than inline elements. [http://www.w3.org/TR/1998/REC-html40-19980424/struct/ global.html#h-7.5.3] Regards, Peter -- Peter Dominic Ryan | raycity* : new media solutions : proven [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://raycity.com | mb: 0419 229 738 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Re: what do you use instead of embed
pepelsbey wrote: I know this may sound stupid and dumb but is there a tag or something that you would use instead of an embed Just asking as it comes up as a warning when I valiadate a page im coding at the moment. A method suggested to me by Bert Doorn seems excellent, and is very simple: object data=whatever.swf width=596 height=375 type=application/x-shockwave-flash param name=movie value=whatever.swf / param name=quality value=high / param name=bgcolor value=#fff / a href=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,29,0; img src=whatever.gif alt= / /a /object The nice thing is that non-flash content is placed on lines 4-6, with or without the link to download. AND, it validates! -- Best Regards, Bob McClelland Cornwall (UK) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Re: what do you use instead of embed
I don't know if this will help, but I added hyper links to my object vs embed test page. As per different browser they all work differently. http://www.designbyatfb.com/test/swftest2.html I don't know what [an error occurred while processing this directive] this is doing there! lol - Original Message - From: pdr Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: what do you use instead of embed Hi Germ its just for a flash file which will act as the banner for the top of the webpage You will need the object … /object tag. Check out this excellent article ... I work this way, and code is widley supported by browsers, and passes validation. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/ thanks for links and help As for your second question: Also when i tried putting the a href tags on either side so that it was a link, it didnt work. any special reason?? I would think that it is because embed … /embed is a block-level elements, and a … /a is an inline element; From the W3: Generally, block-level elements may contain inline elements and other block-level elements. Generally, inline elements may contain only data and other inline elements. Inherent in this structural distinction is the idea that block elements create larger structures than inline elements. [http://www.w3.org/TR/1998/REC-html40-19980424/struct/ global.html#h-7.5.3] Regards, Peter -- Peter Dominic Ryan | raycity* : new media solutions : proven [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://raycity.com | mb: 0419 229 738 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.0.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 7/7/2006 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Re: what do you use instead of embed
ok I think I finally got the hyper links that I added tested in all the browsers I have available. http://www.designbyatfb.com/test/swftest2.html I do believe that they only work with the swf object file (SEE EXAMPLE 4)in FF, Mozilla, Opera. If you went awhile ago to have a look, I aplogize for making a mess of it. I tried to get the results listed under each example, so no one would have to guess. Sharron **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
[WSG] Re: what do you use instead of embed
Hi allsorry about the first empty email. key board got stuck and it sent instead of tabbing rolling eyesI know this may sound stupid and dumb but is there a tag or something that you would use instead of an embed Just asking as it comes up as a warning when I valiadate a page im coding at the moment. Also when i tried putting the a href tags on either side so that it was a link, it didnt work. any special reason??Thanks in advance-- JP2 Designs http://www.jp2designs.com **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
Re: [WSG] Re: what do you use instead of embed
Germ wrote: Hi all sorry about the first empty email. key board got stuck and it sent instead of tabbing rolling eyes I know this may sound stupid and dumb but is there a tag or something that you would use instead of an embed Just asking as it comes up as a warning when I valiadate a page im coding at the moment. Also when i tried putting the a href tags on either side so that it was a link, it didnt work. any special reason?? Thanks in advance -- JP2 Designs http://www.jp2designs.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** try object/object cheers, dwain ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
