Re: [WSG] web check
Max, Really something not related to accessibilty - however I hate seeing a URL like: http://www.devonfurnituremakers.org.uk/gallery.php I prefer: http://www.devonfurnituremakers.org.uk/gallery/ Simply in the root folder, create a file: .htaccess then: --start-- rewriteengine on rewriterule ^gallery/$ gallery.php -- end -- that will mean the url: http://www.devonfurnituremakers.org.uk/gallery/ will load: http://www.devonfurnituremakers.org.uk/gallery.php (sorry, you might already know all this - its just a pet hate of mine...) - Strat On Tuesday 13 February 2007 21:34, John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Good Morning All, Just gone live with this and have done all my valid checks etc but if anyone has a second I would really appreciate any feedback on accessibility and usability: www.devonfurnituremakers.org.uk http://www.devonfurnituremakers.org.uk/ Also - if anyone on here can provide a top to bottom accessibility report then please contact me. I am interested in a full assessment of the site pointing out what issues will affect what user groups and why and what can be done to address the issues. Thanks, Max. www.thepigfarmer.co.uk http://www.thepigfarmer.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] web check
Only had a quick look but what strikes me so far is that things go a bit wrong at smaller window sizes (less than 1024 x 780) - pictures on the members' pages stick out to the right and text on the member search page spills out of the boxes on the left (in Firefox Opera). On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:34:30 +1000, John 'Max' Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Morning All, Just gone live with this and have done all my valid checks etc but if anyone has a second I would really appreciate any feedback on accessibility and usability: www.devonfurnituremakers.org.uk http://www.devonfurnituremakers.org.uk/ Also - if anyone on here can provide a top to bottom accessibility report then please contact me. I am interested in a full assessment of the site pointing out what issues will affect what user groups and why and what can be done to address the issues. Thanks, Max. www.thepigfarmer.co.uk http://www.thepigfarmer.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] web check
Simply in the root folder, create a file: .htaccess then: --start-- rewriteengine on rewriterule ^gallery/$ gallery.php -- end -- ...or enable multiviews, which is a far slicker way IMHO... P Patrick H. Lauke Web Editor / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] web check
Hi Georg, Many thanks for your comments - much appreciated. I will get on to the 'more' links and add the names. Need some font-resize testing and improvements. Text is overflowing containers in the good browsers under certain conditions, and IE6' 'auto-expansion' bug is not very kind to that layout either. I spotted this and need to take the height attribute off some divs or maybe bring in some kind of auto scroll. A generous 'min-width' is needed for supporting browsers. What does this mean? Making the page wider than 850 pixels if the space is there?? Why would this help? I don't think you need more than one IE-expression for 'min/max-width' in that layout - on the outer wrapper, and it definitely needs some tuning for trigger/fix-points and smoothness of action. Can you expand on this as I am interested in knowing more about it. Thanks, Max. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] web check
Thanks Tim, That's given me something to get stuck in to!! Cheers, Max. -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: 13 February 2007 12:41 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] web check John I like it, your attention to standards with an easy check link on the page footer. Sorry not much time for a full review too much to do, my site always needs attention, a great start. A few things to consider accessibility for bots and page rank as well as well as disability discrimination legal compliance? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] web check
Hi John, Further to Tim's comments I think the JavaScript menu is a weak point. A better solution would be to have the 'Members Name' and 'Type of Furniture' options built in to the content in separate select boxes and then use JavaScript to show one of them and hide the other. The advantage to this is that users without JavaScript will still be able to use the site as intended, and it will also cut down on your source code as the arrays will not be necessary. The only change will be a slightly different layout for non-JavaScript enabled users, and perhaps adjusting your search code to cope with searches on both name and type at the same time - as selecting a name essentially limits the search results to one, a flag to show if this member makes that particular type of furniture or not might do the trick. Although it is not complicated, implementing this is a bit beyond the remit of the WSG mailing list, so please feel free to contact me directly if you would like some help. Ian. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] web check
John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: I will get on to the 'more' links and add the names. The names are there already. Just link them to the relevant pages. Need some font-resize testing and improvements. Text is overflowing containers in the good browsers under certain conditions, and IE6' 'auto-expansion' bug is not very kind to that layout either. I spotted this and need to take the height attribute off some divs or maybe bring in some kind of auto scroll. Look at how IE6 does it - before things starts to break too badly. IE6' 'auto-expansion' bug is useful at times, and it can be replicated in less buggy browsers. A generous 'min-width' is needed for supporting browsers. What does this mean? Making the page wider than 850 pixels if the space is there?? Why would this help? I wrote 'min-width', *not* 'max-width'. At the moment that design can be squeezed down until everything gets out of shape and overlaps. I don't think many of those pages will work on narrower windows that around 700 pixels - even after some improvements for font-resizing, so I think you should add a 'min-width: 700px' to save it. I don't think you need more than one IE-expression for 'min/max-width' in that layout - on the outer wrapper, and it definitely needs some tuning for trigger/fix-points and smoothness of action. Can you expand on this as I am interested in knowing more about it. Read about that 'pixel-based min/max-width expression' here... http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_14.html ...and check out how smooth it works in IE6 on that very page. Those values must be tuned to each layout. There should not be much difference in how IE6 handles that layout when window is resized, from how other browsers handle it. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] web check
Junk mail already??? Thanks. From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lisa herrod Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2007 9:27 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] web check On 13/02/07, Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...or enable multiviews, which is a far slicker way IMHO... P P, what's 'Multiviews'... L *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ The information transmitted is for the use of the intended recipient only and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, disclosure, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may result in severe penalties. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the Security Advisor of the Department of Communications, Information Technology and the Arts, telephone (02) 6271-1880 and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. For all other enquiries please ring (02) 6271-1000. ___ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] web check
Well, that's funny because I signed up to take part in an ongoing exchange of information and opinions about standards in web design and development. I think finding ways to eliminate displaying file extensions in URL boxes is pertinent to this. Maybe you're on the wrong list, Belinda, or your expectations of this one are misplaced. I'd say Patrick's comment and Lisa's query are entirely relevant. Ricky _ From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Priestley, Belinda Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2007 9:56 AM To: lisa herrod Cc: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] web check Lisa, I signed up to this email account to get emails about WSG events/meetings/news. Not to get every email under the sun that seems to be about nothing. How is this not junk mail, if this is all I got emailed on behalf of you? On 13/02/07, Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...or enable multiviews, which is a far slicker way IMHO... P _ P, what's 'Multiviews'... L Please don't waste my time with this junk. And next time you create a mailing list perhaps you should create some rules around it, so only WSG can email out to the list. Because at the moment it seems that all members are receiving this junk from anyone and they probably don't have time for it either. Kind Regards, Belinda _ From: lisa herrod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2007 9:44 AM To: Priestley, Belinda Subject: Re: [WSG] web check Hi Belinda, I've just finished reading this thread, I'm not sure what you mean by 'Junk Mail', but I can assure you it isn't :) Feel free to contact me if you have any concerns, Lisa Herrod List Admin, WSG Core On 14/02/07, Priestley, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Junk mail already??? Thanks. _ From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto: mailto:listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lisa herrod Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2007 9:27 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] web check On 13/02/07, Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...or enable multiviews, which is a far slicker way IMHO... P P, what's 'Multiviews'... L *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] web check
I recently signed up to receive information about WSG events, as these are no longer being sent around in other formats. I saw at the signon there were different options for how we receive WSG information. Is it possible to create a new category of notices of events only? As the majority of this discussion is not relevant to me, while the events are. Thanks, Kate From: Ricky Onsman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 13 February 2007 10:27 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] web check Well, that's funny because I signed up to take part in an ongoing exchange of information and opinions about standards in web design and development. I think finding ways to eliminate displaying file extensions in URL boxes is pertinent to this. Maybe you're on the wrong list, Belinda, or your expectations of this one are misplaced. I'd say Patrick's comment and Lisa's query are entirely relevant. Ricky From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Priestley, Belinda Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2007 9:56 AM To: lisa herrod Cc: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] web check Lisa, I signed up to this email account to get emails about WSG events/meetings/news. Not to get every email under the sun that seems to be about nothing. How is this not junk mail, if this is all I got emailed on behalf of you? On 13/02/07, Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...or enable multiviews, which is a far slicker way IMHO... P _ P, what's 'Multiviews'... L Please don't waste my time with this junk. And next time you create a mailing list perhaps you should create some rules around it, so only WSG can email out to the list. Because at the moment it seems that all members are receiving this junk from anyone and they probably don't have time for it either. Kind Regards, Belinda From: lisa herrod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2007 9:44 AM To: Priestley, Belinda Subject: Re: [WSG] web check Hi Belinda, I've just finished reading this thread, I'm not sure what you mean by 'Junk Mail', but I can assure you it isn't :) Feel free to contact me if you have any concerns, Lisa Herrod List Admin, WSG Core On 14/02/07, Priestley, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Junk mail already??? Thanks. From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org mailto:listdad@webstandardsgroup.org ] On Behalf Of lisa herrod Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2007 9:27 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] web check On 13/02/07, Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...or enable multiviews, which is a far slicker way IMHO... P P, what's 'Multiviews'... L *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] web check
Congratulations, you win the award for asshat of the day! People ask questions and engage in discussions. No need to shut them down. Subscribe to the daily digest if you don't want every individual email. In any case, that isn't junk mail - junk mail implies advertising/spam... It was a valid question following on from a discussion in this thread. There are no bad questions, just stupid responses... To answer the question about multiviews. I haven't used it before (like I said I use htaccess and mod_rewrite). http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/content-negotiation.html im guessing it allows you to ignore the file extension and it will patch that on for you, on the server side. Quote from that link: Filename Valid hyperlink Invalid hyperlink *foo.html.en* foo foo.html - *foo.en.html* foo foo.html *foo.html.en.gz* foo foo.html foo.gz foo.html.gz *foo.en.html.gz* foo foo.html foo.html.gz foo.gz *foo.gz.html.en* foo foo.gz foo.gz.html foo.html *foo.html.gz.en* foo foo.html foo.html.gz foo.gz - Chris On 2/14/07, Priestley, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Junk mail already??? Thanks. -- *From:* listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *lisa herrod *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 February 2007 9:27 AM *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* Re: [WSG] web check On 13/02/07, *Patrick Lauke* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...or enable multiviews, which is a far slicker way IMHO... P P, what's 'Multiviews'... L *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ The information transmitted is for the use of the intended recipient only and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, disclosure, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may result in severe penalties. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the Security Advisor of the Department of Communications, Information Technology and the Arts, telephone (02) 6271-1880 and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. For all other enquiries please ring (02) 6271-1000. ___ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] web check
P, what's 'Multiviews'... Lise, it's Apache's feature, part of content negotiation apparatus: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/content-negotiation.html#multiviews The effect of MultiViews is as follows: if the server receives a request for /some/dir/foo, if /some/dir has MultiViews enabled, and /some/dir/foo does not exist, then the server reads the directory looking for files named foo.*, and effectively fakes up a type map which names all those files, assigning them the same media types and content-encodings it would have if the client had asked for one of them by name. It then chooses the best match to the client's requirements. I hope this explains it (even though I'm not P ;) -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] web check please??
Hey, thanks for these guys - just tweaking and I shall be back - minor emergency: whilst gleefully clicking away in my creative, fluffy world (having conveniently forgotten the fact that I was 'watching' Harvey (my 2 year old) whilst Michelle popped upstairs) I have just discovered that he too has been creating across our garden wall with a permy marker!! I have created a monster - worse still ... a designer!! And worse STILL - one as verbose as me!! no teeny weeny scribblings in the corner for this chap, its full rolf-harris thing. anyway - back soon with new improved approach - and hopefully a work around for the min/max width thang. cheers, Max. aka The Pig Farmer www.thepigfarmer.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] web check please??
Tony Crockford wrote: Hey John! how about signing up with GAWDS? (www.gawds.org) lots of very knowledgeable folk there. an alternative starting point: http://diveintoaccessibility.org/ Dive Into Accessibility and a very useful forum here: http://www.accessifyforum.com/ Accessify Forum: Accessibility Discussion Forums and although I haven't bought it *yet* this book looks very promising: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1590596382/ HTH ;o) cheers Tony - will look at these! *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] web check Part II
John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: HI All, http://www.project.ex16.co.uk/index3column.htm Gone for a change of tac with new layout - all checks appreciated. I have not added a max-width hack for IE yet but will have a look at it - meanwhile the change of banner design should get rid of the 'orrible blank banner etc (though I know - it doesnt help the 'widescreen' text effect). so far so good. cheers, Max. Max, Just a very cursory look on my end, and some hasty notes... It may be a good idea to view your page in a test browser and validate the markup. What is your page about? Should the document title and the h1 heading read: Tiverton Rugby Club? View your page in Opera/9.01 and then compare it to Firefox/1.5.0.6. Do you want the page centered or hugging the left viewport? Best, ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] web check Part II
Max, Just a very cursory look on my end, and some hasty notes... It may be a good idea to view your page in a test browser and validate the markup. What is your page about? Should the document title and the h1 heading read: Tiverton Rugby Club? View your page in Opera/9.01 and then compare it to Firefox/1.5.0.6. Do you want the page centered or hugging the left viewport? Best, ~dL Hi David, The page isn't about anything yet - the rugby club content is merely to pad the structure - I am looking for a cross browser happy layout at this stage. as to alignment - I usually go for centred but this layout has a max of 1000px so I guess it'll only 'hug' the left viewport (less the 20px padding) in browsers (less IE) set to be wider than that. I'll have a play. right now - just making sure it doesn't go awry in any particular browser/platform combo. Hope that makes sense? Cheers, Max. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] web check Part II
John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Max, [...] Hi David, The page isn't about anything yet - the rugby club content is merely to pad the structure - I am looking for a cross browser happy layout at this stage. In reference to your uri: http://www.project.ex16.co.uk/index3column.htm : 48 screen captures (linux, mac, win/2000, xp). I did not wait for them to load. http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=283003 ... Max. Best, ~dL *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] web check Part II
~davidLaakso wrote: John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Max, [...] Hi David, The page isn't about anything yet - the rugby club content is merely to pad the structure - I am looking for a cross browser happy layout at this stage. In reference to your uri: http://www.project.ex16.co.uk/index3column.htm : 48 screen captures (linux, mac, win/2000, xp). I did not wait for them to load. http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=283003 ... Max. Best, ~dL *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Nice one - Thanks David!! - by the way - its now valid HTML and CSS though I need to change the way the flash is embedded. I don't like my content area either ... but that's all cosmetic - no problem. Thanks again, Max. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] web check please??
On 9/7/06 5:02 PM, John 'Max' Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.project.ex16.co.uk Min-width would be my only complaint. Narrow windows get crazy. Very nice though. -- Tom Livingston | Senior Multimedia Artist | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] web check please??
John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: I next want to look at full disabled access etc - can anyone recommend a solid and well represented, up to date resource for this area of web design?? Please do not say google it - I want advice from people who have used it - there are websites and even published books out there turning out code that simply doesn't work to the degree it should. Hey John! how about signing up with GAWDS? (www.gawds.org) lots of very knowledgeable folk there. an alternative starting point: http://diveintoaccessibility.org/ Dive Into Accessibility and a very useful forum here: http://www.accessifyforum.com/ Accessify Forum: Accessibility Discussion Forums and although I haven't bought it *yet* this book looks very promising: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1590596382/ HTH ;o) -- Join me: http://wiki.workalone.co.uk/ Thank me: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/registry/1VK42TQL7VD2F Engage me: http://www.boldfish.co.uk/portfolio/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] web check please??
John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Hi All, its very early days but I am trying to tie down a solid cross-browser 3 column liquid layout - I'm really only at 'wireframe' stage but have shoved some content in to make sense: www.project.ex16.co.uk I am looking for cross-browser friendly resizing of the browser window, wanting the left and right columns to remain the same with a fluid centre column. A constant padding around the whole site to show the slight gradient in the 'body' - and the site should not exceed 1000px in width. It should also handle resizing of text ok. I next want to look at full disabled access etc - can anyone recommend a solid and well represented, up to date resource for this area of web design?? Please do not say google it - I want advice from people who have used it - there are websites and even published books out there turning out code that simply doesn't work to the degree it should. all comments greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Max. You have a nice site going, Max. I do not think that min/max width is supported in IE, although I think it is in IE7. For IE/6.0 and down I think you will need to use your favorite IE min/max workaround. If you do not have a favorite work around, you may want to get things going well cross-browser at width 100% first (sort of first things first principle, if you will). Faux column sidebars http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fauxcolumns/ might be a nice touch, too. As far as a layout is concerned, we trip into personal opinion. You could stick with what you've got. Or, the 3 column layout on this page http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/ is robust, stable and works well cross-browser (and the tutorial includes implantation of equal height columns-- faux columns). And, primary content first in source order variations on the same negative margin concept may be found here: http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/ (although some of these become more difficult to implement the any column longest principle). But either way, the zooming (up or down) of text is not necessarily a layout function, but rather one of understanding the Web-- how she works, and how we can work with her, to to deliver meaningful content, at any screen resolution or zoom set. Just letting stuff (content) flow without restricting height on containers sometimes helps to resolve some of these issues. HTH. ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
