Re: [Live-demo] Change IRC meeting start time to 19:30 UTC?
On 10/03/2017 12:03 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > I propose that we change the IRC meeting start time to 19:30 UTC to > accommodate daylight saving changes. Next meeting would be: > https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2017=10=9=19=30=0=1=224=155=195=37=215=26=240=952 +0, still quite late in Europe so I won't be able to attend most of the time. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Motion: lets go on with incubation and get listed as OSGeo Project
On 09/03/2017 04:53 PM, Vicky Vergara wrote: > Bas Couwenberg +0, I don't value the Incubation process much, being a Community Project should be sufficient. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] [live-demo] MOTION: Retire MB-System from OSGeo-Live 11.0
On 07/11/2017 12:31 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > Based on a previous IRC meeting logs [1], we had a veto vote (-1) on > removing MB-System from the disk. > Given the fact that there has been no activity from the new > maintainer/volunteer with a revised MB-System quickstart, I would like > to make an override motion (majority vote) for removing MB-System from > 11.0 release. No objection. -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] [live-demo] MOTION: Retire GMT from OSGeo-Live 11.0
On 07/11/2017 12:26 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > Based on a previous IRC meeting logs [1], we had two veto votes (-1) on > removing GMT from the disk. > Given the fact that there has been no pull request with a revised GMT > quickstart, I would like to make an override motion (majority vote) for > removing GMT from 11.0 release. No objection. Although it would be nice to keep gmt in the PPA and part of the gdal rebuilds so users can install the gmt package if they want it. -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] [live-demo] MOTION: Revert to previous OSGeo-Live logo for 11.0 release, keep new OSGeo logo in docs
On 07/11/2017 12:47 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > We have been discussing the new logo situation for a few weeks now and > it seems there are issues with all suggested new OSGeo-Live logos. > I feel that we should not hurry to prepare a new OSGeo-Live logo for the > upcoming 11.0 release, while at the same time I would like to keep the > work done by Jody including the new OSGeo logo in our docs. > > So I would like to propose to keep the previous OSGeo-Live logo for our > web site banner, and use the new OSGeo logo for the project quickstarts > and overviews. Also I propose to use the new OSGeo logo in our desktop > backdrop image to support the OSGeo re-branding project. > > There is a pull request for this motion: > https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/277 I'm fine with the above. -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] [live-demo] MOTION: Retire PyWPS from OSGeo-Live 11.0
On 07/11/2017 12:36 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > Based on a previous IRC meeting logs [1], we had a veto vote (-1) on > removing PyWPS from the disk. > PyWPS quickstart has not been working for some time now [2] and we did > not hear back from the maintainers so far. > I would like to make an override motion (majority vote) for removing > PyWPS from 11.0 release. No objection. -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Review of gpsprune on OSGeo-Live 11.0
On 06/18/2017 06:16 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > I will backport the package from DebianGIS within the next 48h. You only need to copy the package from my staging PPA: >> I've created the backported package for you, the source is in the same >> git repository as the Debian package: >> >> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-grass/gpsprune.git/log/?h=osgeo/11.0 >> >> And the packages are available in my OSGeo-Live staging PPA: >> >> https://launchpad.net/~sebastic/+archive/ubuntu/osgeolive/+packages Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Review of gpsprune on OSGeo-Live 11.0
On 06/17/2017 04:48 PM, Activity Workshop wrote: > On 16/06/17 22:43, Cameron Shorter wrote: >> I agree with Sebastiaan that we should be updating to the latest stable >> version of gpsprune if we can. > > I really don't think that's going to happen for this version of OSGeo-Live, > given that the deadlines are mere hours away now. I would be happy to discuss > this again once the time pressures are off. For each OSGeo-Live development cycle, please request for the latest (stable) version to be included, and review the docs for that version. >> One of the criteria we used to identifying projects to retire from OSGeo-Live >> was finding projects which are not changing version on OSGeo-Live. (This >> picked out gpsprune). > > And another criterion was an acute lack of resources. If you're now telling > me > that it would be no problem to invest additional effort with backporting and > packaging and integration, together with updating and reviewing documentation, > then that changes the question somewhat. As mentioned in the alpha1 annoucement: " We are still reviewing and adding projects, so please keep sending us reviews and feedback. The list of projects will be finalized when we reach beta stage. " There may still be time to include 18.6. > As I've already said, it would be great if you could take 18.6, but I honestly > have no idea what would be required from me and what would be required from > the > OSGeo-Live team in order to make that happen. I also have no idea from whom > on > the OSGeo-Live team I should be asking favours to do the work for me, and > what I > should be asking them to do. As with every release I have tried to minimise > the > OSGeo-Live work required, but if you're telling me that that's the wrong > approach then I'm very open to suggestions. Ask on this (live-demo) list for one of the packagers to backport the desired version if it's newer than what's included in Ubuntu xenial. Either myself, Angelos, or someone else on this list can help create the backported package for you. gpsprune is a fairly simple package, its libmetadata-extractor-java dependency requires the most attention due its tendency to break the reverse dependencies. But since 2.7.2 is already in xenial and no newer version is included in the OSGeo-Live PPA there is nothing to worry about. Thanks to JOSM no longer requiring newer versions. >> On 17/6/17 6:28 am, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: >>> Or just rebuild the source package downloaded via tracker.debian.org >>> with pdebuild in a cowbuilder chroot with the OSGeo-Live nightly PPA >>> enabled. > > Haha, thanks Sebastiaan, you make it sound so easy! :D I don't think I've > ever > done _anything_ with pdebuild in a cowbuilder chroot in my life!! I rely on > generous people like yourself to do that for me for Debian. Rebuilding packages is easy, the biggest hurdle is learning the Debian packaging tools which is not that difficult either. Knowing where to find the appropriate documentation is half the work. > As I said, my priority right now is to try to prevent GpsPrune being removed > from the image (or try to ensure that it's added again). I would rather have > 18.3 included than nothing, and there are only a few hours to go before the > deadlines. Changes between 18.3 and 18.6 include: " New with version 18.6 = The following fix was made since version 18.5: - Change of URL for SRTM tiles, and recognise when downloaded file is too small to be valid New with version 18.5 = The following fixes and additions were made since version 18.4: - When points have no altitudes, send them to a GPS with altitude 0 (prevents weird values when reading back) - When points are not displayed on map, still colour the lines according to the selected scheme - When points all have crazy values, don't hang the profile chart - When images can't be fetched from the internet, don't delete expired cache images - Translation updates to es, uk, ru, cz New with version 18.4 = The following fixes and additions were made since version 18.3: - Updated GPSBabel format descriptions (thanks, Juergen!) - Removed calls to the retired opencaching.com site (thanks, Garmin!) " There are some menu changes that may affect the docs, but it doesn't look like much will need to be updated for the changes since 18.3. I've created the backported package for you, the source is in the same git repository as the Debian package: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-grass/gpsprune.git/log/?h=osgeo/11.0 And the packages are available in my OSGeo-Live staging PPA: https://launchpad.net/~sebastic/+archive/ubuntu/osgeolive/+packages Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10
Re: [Live-demo] Review of gpsprune on OSGeo-Live 11.0
On 06/16/2017 09:32 PM, Activity Workshop wrote: > On 12/06/17 21:00, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: >> Shouldn't gpsprune be upgraded to 18.6 and the overview & quickstart >> updated to reflect the latest version? > > Well yes, you're right, it would be ideal if we had v18.6. But currently my > number 1 priority is to try to prevent GpsPrune being removed from OSGeo-Live, > and as I understand it the docs need to be reviewed this week. > > The easiest way to ensure that GpsPrune gets installed (correct me if I'm > wrong) > is to take the version from the Ubuntu repositories. I expect that a simple > apt-get will be much easier to manage than trying to set up links to backports > or private ppas or whatever else might be involved to get 18.6. So that is > why > I recommended to take the one from the repositories, and I've only just > learned > this week that this will be 18.3. Rebuilding the latest gpsprune package from Debian for OSGeo-Live is quite trivial, see for example the git-buildpackage workflow documented in the Debian GIS policy: https://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/policy/packaging.html#git-backports Or just rebuild the source package downloaded via tracker.debian.org with pdebuild in a cowbuilder chroot with the OSGeo-Live nightly PPA enabled. Updating the package now requires the docs to be reviewed again for 18.6. If the package was updated first the docs needed to be updated only once. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Review of gpsprune on OSGeo-Live 11.0
On 06/12/2017 08:55 PM, Activity Workshop wrote: > On 12/06/17 00:03, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: >> In case you have already tested gpsprune for 10.5 and all work fine, we can >> enable it ASAP. > Ok, well I haven't got a 10.5 image handy for testing, but I have run through > the steps with GpsPrune 18.3 and as long as the test track is present on the > disk, all the steps work fine. So I think it would be good to enable it. Shouldn't gpsprune be upgraded to 18.6 and the overview & quickstart updated to reflect the latest version? Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Draft press release about OSGeoLive reboot
On 05/28/2017 12:58 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: > I've drafted a press release about the proposed reboot, based on our > conversations so far. > > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_77 Suggested contacts for some of the stray projects: * OpenLayers OpenLayers Developers* osgEarth Glenn Waldron * JOSM (for Open Street Map) JOSM Developers Dirk Stöcker * PROJ.4 MetaCRS Developers PROJ.4 Developers Howard Butler Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Retiring mapnik from OSGeo-Live?
On 05/12/2017 04:13 PM, Brian M Hamlin wrote: > this is nothing but a loss of OSGeo-Live, and further seperates > Openstreetmap (which is thriving) and OSGeo. I dont see Dane "requesting > removal" actually. It appears to me that OSGeo is asking "is this a > candidate for removal" and the answer is Yes. You need to read Danes email better: " Because I am the individual that added Mapnik to osgeo-live originally I would prefer you remove it. " OSGeo-Live is not thriving because there isn't enough participation of the people involved in the projects included in OSGeo-Live. If projects want to be included in OSGeo-Live for its use in workshops and the like, they will need to contribute to the maintenance of their project in OSGeo-Live. > As I said in the weekly meeting recently, OSGeo does itself no favors by > framing things this way.. The future to my mind is three products, with > OSGeo-Live being the lesser of the three in some ways. By asking "remove > from OSGeo-Live" you are making the least of the products define the > relationship of OSGeo to others... > last observation: Mapnik is an obscure and complex beast, and has few > candidates for new users > But arent many of the core OSGeo projects "obscure and complex beasts" ? > Isnt OSGeo in the realm of such things, by definition? This adds nothing of value to the discussion. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Retiring mapnik from OSGeo-Live?
On 05/12/2017 10:50 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote: > As per below, Dane is suggesting there are not volunteers available to > manage Mapnik's presence on OSGeo-Live, and as such is suggesting it is > a candidate for retiring. Since Dane requested removal, I don't think that further discussion is required. The case for removal is clear. Mapnik is also a beast to build, so if no applications depend on it, it can safely be removed. Both nik4 & tilestache have libmapnik in their dependency chain via python-mapnik. For tilestache it's a recommended dependency and hence not strictly required, nik4 does have a strict dependency. nik4 can be considered for removal from OSGeo-Live. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Motion: Move from 2 releases to 1 per year
On 04/25/2017 01:16 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote: > As per weekly meeting discussion, we propose to switch from putting out > two releases per year to putting out one main release per year. -0 Release early, release often. Keep momentum by starting to work on the next release after the most recent final release. But that assumes there are people willing to do the work, which doesn't seem to be the case in sufficient quantities. So don't release until there is sufficient manpower to make a good one. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Reducing scope of OSGeo-Live for next 11.0 release - first pass review
On 04/23/2017 12:51 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote: > Angelos and I have both contributed to a first pass review of the status > of projects on OSGeo-Live and put notes into column S, "11.0 Comments" > in our status spreadsheet: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150 Comments regarding some of these changes: * GMT Suggested contact: Paul Wessel* Merkaartor Development is slow, but since Ladislav Láska took over maintenance no longer fully halted. * Osmosis OpenHub project: https://www.openhub.net/p/osmosis_osm Development is also slow, but the project is not dead yet. osmosis is still an essential tool in the OpenStreetMap ecosystem. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Motion: Invite Nicolas Roelandt (baka niko) to join OSGeo-Live Project Management Committee
On 03/18/2017 12:27 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: > I'd like to raise a motion to officially invite Nicolas Roelandt to join > the OSGeo-Live PMC [1] +1 > Sebastian Couwenburg Please stop reusing this typo, see: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Management#PSC_Members And my From address. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Motion: Invite Ben Caradoc-Davies to join OSGeo-Live PMC
On 03/17/2017 09:17 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: > I'd like to raise a motion to officially invite Ben Caradoc-Davies to > join the OSGeo-Live PMC [1] Didn't we already do this on IRC? +1, FWIW. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] OTB 5.8 issue
On 02/01/2017 12:43 PM, Bas Couwenberg wrote: > On 2017-02-01 12:39, Pieter du Plooy wrote: >> How does one include such an environment variable in Lubuntu's .desktop >> files? > > Edit the Exec line in the .desktop file like so: > > Exec=env OTB_APPLICATION_PATH=/usr/lib/otb/applications monteverdi > > Short term solution is to make this modification in the install_otb.sh > script in OSGeo-Live, but this should be fixed in the .desktop file that > gets installed by the OTB build system. I've added a patch to the Debian package for the above and forwarded it upstream: https://bugs.orfeo-toolbox.org/view.php?id=1355 Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Python 2 and 3 in the field today
On 11/11/2016 06:52 PM, Brian M Hamlin wrote: > Here at UC Berkeley, it seems that far more people use the Anaconda > distribution system,than any Debian python packaging. > The Mac OS is perhaps more than fifty percent of serious science users, by casual observation, > and the pain and dysfunction of the Windows ecosystem continues to drive many decisions about packages. > Python programming is meant to be portable, and it is. > That is a substantial portion of the benefit of choosing python. > I do not believe that the Debian python packaging policies have much effect on scientific programmers here, whichever OS they use. What people do at Berkeley has little to no relevance in the context of OSGeo-Live which is built on Ubuntu, and Debian by extension. This causes the Debian Python packaging policy to have a significant effect on the python packages included in OSGeo-Live. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Python 2 and 3 in the field today
On 11/11/2016 05:24 PM, Brian M Hamlin wrote: > this article was linked in the YCombinator News feed today.. > > https://semaphoreci.com/blog/2016/11/11/python-versions-used-in-commercial-projects-2016-edition.html It only going to see more adoption now that Ubuntu has switched the default Python to 3.x since xenial. The Debian Python Policy also documents the use of Python 3 for programs when they support it, and recommend to not package them for Python 2. Libraries should always be packaged for Python 3, and when applications only support Python 2 should the library be packaged for Python 2 as well. https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ch-python3.html With QGIS 3 switching to Python 3, adoption in the geospatial ecosystem will be pushed forward too. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Fwd: Re: [Incubator] requiring CLA signing
On 08/28/16 12:33, Cameron Shorter wrote: On 28/08/2016 11:12 AM, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: On 08/27/16 22:41, Cameron Shorter wrote: I like the GeoNode process for signing Contributor License Agreements, and suggest that we should introduce something similar for OSGeo-Live clahub.com <http://clahub.com> I'd argue for dropping a CLA, it only raises the barrier to contribute without much benefit for the project. See also: http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2014/06/09/do-not-need-cla.html I've recently retracted my pull requests to the protobuf project because they require a CLA before considering the contributions. If you require me to sign a legal document before accepting my patches, I choose not to contribute to your project. The effort is simply not worth it. Thanks Bas for the URL. After reading it I agree that we don't want contributors to sign a CLA, but rather have an "inbound=outbound" process, where developers formally confirm they agree to the project's Open Source license. I'm hoping we can make our messy "confirm to an archived email list" process cleaner by allowing contributors to use a web page instead, which is linked to their git id, and can be used to ensure only developers who have confirmed they agree with the license get their git code merged. This is in practice no different. It still raises the barrier to contribute. Is OSGeo-Live in such a luxurious position that people are eager to contribute no matter the hoops they need to jump through before they can contribute? Obvious it is not, and any additional hoop decreases the number of people willing to contribute. By submitting a PR or sending patches to the mailinglist, the license is implicitly the same as the project. Unless code from another project (with a different license) is used, not specific extra steps should be required. If code from another project with a different but compatible license is submitted, that fact should be documented in the submission. I've never sent the "I confirm that my contributions to OSGeo-Live will be compatible with the OSGeo-Live license guidelines at the time of contribution" message for my contributions to OSGeo-Live and those changes were happily accepted. Those contributions were implicitly under the same license as the project. Adding a sentence to the contributor guidelines along the lines of "By contributing to OSGeo-Live you confirm that your contributions are conform the license guidelines at the time of contribution." should be sufficient. The act of contributing confirms license compliance, no additional action required not even a click on a CLA form. Can you explain why developers should explicitly confirm they agree with the OSGeo-Live licenses before getting they contributions accepted? Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
[Live-demo] Comparing package versions between OSGeo-Live, Debian & Ubuntu
To get an overview of the package versions in OSGeo-Live, Debian & Ubuntu I've whipped up a script to compare the versions between the three repositories. For Debian & Ubuntu the public UDD (Ultimate Debian Database) instance is used, and for OSGeo-Live the Sources file is downloaded from the PPA repository. The script and example text output (JSON is also supported) are attached (in compressed form because the initial email was too big). Only packages included in the Debian GIS Blends metapages and those in the OSGeo-Live PPA are considered. The report can be used to plan which packages to update for the next OSGeo-Live development cycle. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 debian-vs-osgeolive.pl.gz Description: application/gzip debian-vs-osgeolive.txt.gz Description: application/gzip ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] MOTION: Pull request #134 Workshop installers
On 06/29/2016 11:14 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > I would like to add a "workshop" folder in our source tree, to attract > FOSS4G workshop leaders to submit workshop installers (no data, just > shell scripts to setup extra material). This way, workshop leaders can > have their material easily installed on top of the official ISO or VM, > once it is needed. > These installers will NOT be used during our build process, they will > just be there for workshop organizers to manually execute them on their > hardware if needed/wanted. Is there demand for this? If the workshop installers are actively maintained it can be beneficial, but I fear that after the initial creation they will quickly become unmaintained. I'm currently +0 on this. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo-Live team needs help: Someone who looks after OSM data, tools and writes documentation is needed
On 06/11/2016 01:06 PM, Astrid Emde wrote: > Hello OSM enthusiasts, I've forwarded this message to the OSM talk & dev lists, which most OSM enthusiasts frequent. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Inviting new members for the OSGeo-Live Project Management Committee
On 06/06/2016 11:40 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > I would like to nominate Astrid Emde for the OSGeoLive PSC. > Astrid has been heavily involved in OSGeoLive development (MapBender > maintainer), various presentations in conferences, and one of the most > active translation maintainers (second to Cameron, see link). > https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/graphs/contributors +1, Astrid is a very valuable member of the community. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
[Live-demo] QGIS & osgEarth 2.7
QGIS upstream has recently disabled the globle plugin when built with osgEarth 2.7 [0] because the initial changes were not sufficient to support anything newer that 2.5 [1]. Proper support for 2.7 has been merged recently too [2], but has not been backported to 2.14 LTR. Assuming you want to stick to QGIS 2.14 for OSGeo-Live 10.0, and want to have a working globe plugin in QGIS, downgrading the osgearth package in the nightly PPA to 2.5 is needed. You cannot rely on the 2.5 package in xenial because it needs to be rebuilt with GDAL 2.1.0 in the nightly PPA. [0] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/commit/ddcc2fb82ca6ae3d09e19ce4fe6be689e58886f4 [1] http://hub.qgis.org/issues/12550 [2] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/commit/87121d63a8ca28dc75631d3ef6a59c025388a026 Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] PostGIS 2.2 and gdal2, what is ahead ?
On 05/31/2016 11:00 PM, Brian M Hamlin wrote: > postgis_2.2.1+dfsg-3~xenial0.dsc > > inside, the Build-Depends: > > libgdal-dev (>= 1.11.2+dfsg-3~) | libgdal1-dev (>= 1.9.0~) > > Q. How does that fit with gdal2 ? Those are just the minimum version required to build the package. These version constraints were mostly added to ensure postgis was built with at least that version as part of past GDAL transitions. These are requirements for building the Debian packages, not the minimum requirements for PostGIS (which requires >= 1.8.0 and recommends 1.9+). If you check the actual dependencies of the binary packages built from the postgis source package, you'll see that it requires the library packages for GDAL 2.x: $ apt-cache show postgis | grep ^Depends Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libgdal20 (>= 2.0.1), libgeos-c1v5 (>= 3.4.2), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.14.0), liblwgeom-2.2-5 (>= 2.0.0), libpq5 $ apt-cache show postgresql-9.5-postgis-2.2 | grep ^Depends Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libgdal20 (>= 2.0.1), libgeos-c1v5 (>= 3.5.0), libjson-c2 (>= 0.11), liblwgeom-2.2-5 (>= 2.2.0), libpcre3, libproj9 (>= 4.9.0), libsfcgal1 (>= 1.2.0), libxml2 (>= 2.7.4), postgresql-9.5, postgresql-9.5-postgis-scripts As mentioned before, kalxas built the GDAL 2.1.0 packages for OSGeo-Live and subsequently built the other packages in the nightly repository with it. So all packages in the nightly PPA are using GDAL 2.x already. Fiona includes a bunch of patches from the upcoming 1.7 release to successfully build with GDAL 2.x, the other packages already have support for it. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] PyWPS application
On 05/13/2016 01:25 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: > I'm +1 for inviting PyWPS to join OSGeo-Live. As requested on IRC, also posting here: 23:32 < sebastic> I'm also in favor of including pywps, a natural development since it was in 9.5 already :) Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] netCDF4 libs
On 05/11/2016 05:50 AM, Brian M Hamlin wrote: > How can I check the versions of the netCDF stack as things progress ? That depends. The latest versions available in Debian and upstream are included in the Debian GIS DDPO: https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-grass-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org=yes=oldoldstable > Where can I make a pull-request for a trivial change to a package .dsc ? Package dsc files are generated so changing them makes no sense. You can discuss changes to the netcdf source packages on the debian-gis list [0] and/or file a bugreport for the package in question [1]. [0] https://lists.debian.org/debian-gis/ [1] https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting > What is a good way to trace UbuntuGIS - testing PPA versions for > python-netcdf4 -> netcdf-c -> lib hdf5 > (there are several, how would *you* do it ) for our next dev-cycle.. Define "trace". If you're looking for the interdependencies I would parse the Packages files from the PPA and analyse the Depends fields of the packages in question. Because I have coordinated the recent netcdf transitions, I have a pretty good idea of the dependency chain. netcdf-c (netcdf source package) is at the bottom, everything else depends on that. netcdf-cxx-legacy, netcdf-cxx, netcdf-fortran & netcdf4-python all require the netcdf package to build. netcdf in turn requires hdf5 to build. To help prepare transitions, I run a transition tracker [2] using the ben package [3] also used for Debian [4] & Ubuntu [5]. ben visualizes the reverse dependencies for packages and marks them as good or bad based on the regular expressions applied to the fields in the Packages files (usually just Depends). [2] http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/html/netcdf-c.html [3] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ben [4] https://release.debian.org/transitions/ [5] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/ > Where is a convenient place to file an update ticket : > "netCDF4 project home page has moved from code.google.com to > github.com/Unidata; update source description" Convenient != Appropriate You should file bugreports in the tracker for the repository in question, in this case UbuntuGIS/OSGeo-Live. If you verify that the issue is also present in the packaging maintained by the Debian GIS team, you can contact the Debian GIS team via the mailinglist or file a bugreport for the package in question. > dsc content: > stable_dsc | python-netcdf4_1.1.0-0~trusty1 | Homepage | > http://code.google.com/p/netcdf4-python/ > > make sense ? thanks That looks like the python-netcdf4 source package from OSGeo-Live 9.5, it is maintained by The Meraccording to its control file. It is not maintained by the Debian GIS team, the netcdf4-python package is maintained by the Debian GIS team and included in Debian & Ubuntu. It does not have these issues. Regarding NetCDF & Python, only the python{,3}-netcdf4 packages built from the netcdf4-python source package are actively maintained. The python-netcdf package built from the python-scientific package as used by bin/install_jupyter.sh is very problematic. It does not support newer NumPy versions and has been broken in Debian for quite a while and has recently been removed from Debian because it was keeping the old NetCDF 4.1.3 packages in Debian unstable (due to being unable to build with the newer versions). [6] These issues with python-scientific also caused it to be removed from Ubuntu xenial, so bin/install_jupyter.sh needs to be updated to not require python-netcdf any more. [6] https://lists.debian.org/debian-gis/2016/05/msg9.html Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] pgRouting
On 04/29/2016 08:55 PM, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > I've used the packaging from the OSGeo-Live PPA and imported that into > the git repository for use within the Debian GIS team: > > https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-grass/osm2pgrouting.git > > The packaging has been updated to current best practices, and uploaded > to unstable where it's in the NEW queue awaiting review by the Debian > FTP masters. > > https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html The osm2pgrouting packages has just been accepted into the Debian archive. https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/osm2pgrouting It will take a few more hours to appear on the mirrors. And will be included along with pgrouting in the next stable release. The OSGeo-Live builds are encouraged to start using the packaging from Debian GIS for the next OSGeo-Live release. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] pgRouting
On 05/01/2016 07:05 AM, Daniel Kastl wrote: > When I looked at the source files in the "debian" folder, I realized, that > it uses a very old and outdated description of the project. > It's not clear to me, how to apply changes myself. It's a rather easy to > solve issue, so I thought I just ask you by email. Filing a bug for the pgrouting package is the way to contribute changes if you're not a member of the Debian GIS team. https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting Joining the Debian GIS team is recommended for any one who wants to actively contribute to the packaging, it get you commit access to the source package git repositories. https://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/policy/index.html#membership > Here is the control file of the Ubuntu packages I built in the past years > on Launchpad: > https://github.com/pgRouting/pgrouting-build/blob/master/debian/control That description is not really an improvement, it's very short and likely to trigger an extended-description-is-probably-too-short lintian issue. https://lintian.debian.org/tags/extended-description-is-probably-too-short.html > I'm happy to help with the packaging, but I need to find a time to > remember, how everything worked and to read the policies again. > It may look pretty easy, if you do it often, but if done only once or twice > a year, it's just long enough to have forgotten everything again. That's why reference documentation exists to lookup the infrequently used procedures. https://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/policy/ Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] pgRouting
On 04/29/2016 08:08 PM, Vicky Vergara wrote: > Hi. > I wonder how fast can I learn about packing, I am interested. To learn about packaging I suggest to have some reference documentation at hand and start updating the existing packaging for the latest upstream (pre-)release. > I don't expect to change osm2pgrouting this year (I am already behind on > the coding for pgRouting 2.2.3 planned for september) > I like the idea that its packed automatically after the tag is done (like > in pgrouting), but its like a magic box, which leaves my curiosity open. It looks like the pgRouting PPA is not packaged automatically, is that the "packaged automatically" you mention? That looks like the same manual process as done to update the pgrouting package in Debian. I've used the packaging from the OSGeo-Live PPA and imported that into the git repository for use within the Debian GIS team: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-grass/osm2pgrouting.git The packaging has been updated to current best practices, and uploaded to unstable where it's in the NEW queue awaiting review by the Debian FTP masters. https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html > I'll tell you my level of involvement now: > 1. I am the main (if not only) developer of pgRouting. > 2. I do the code, the developers documentation, the user's documentation. > 3. I am in charge also of osm2pgRouting. > 4. I am in the process of updating the pgRoutingLayers plugin for Qgis for > pgRouting versions 2.1 & 2.2. > 5. I need to modify the pgRouting workshop to be used with this latest > version for the Bonn FOSS4G. > 6. On summer I will be mentoring two GSoC students. > > My advantage is that my kids are over 20 years old. > > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Sebastiaan Couwenberg <sebas...@xs4all.nl> > wrote: > >> On 04/29/2016 06:16 PM, Vicky Vergara wrote: >>> Thanks >>> Lots to read & learn. >>> So I'll try from the beginning: >>> I can see this: >>> https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?packages=pgrouting >>> and I don't understand the basics, like the difference between stable and >>> unstable >>> popcorn >>> I can see pgrouting 2.2.2 so I figure that its packed somewhere somehow. >>> (where?? = A) >> >> The package names in the first column are links to the Package Tracker: >> >> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/pgrouting >> >> This is gives a nice overview of the versions in Debian and links to the >> packaging repository, upstream homepage, various QA tools, etc. >> >> You can create an account on the tracker, and subscribe to notifications >> for various events specific to the package like bugreports and new uploads. >> >>> VS >>> https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?packages=osm2pgrouting >>> which looks empty so no package >> >> osm2pgrouting is indeed not packaged for Debian yet. The packaging >> created for OSGeo-Live is a good starting point. The source packages can >> be imported in a git repositories suitable for Debian package >> maintenance (using `gbp import-dscs` [0]). >> >> [0] https://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=gbp-import-dscs >> >>> And from >>> >> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/master/bin/install_pgrouting.sh#L54 >>> >> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/master/bin/install_pgrouting.sh#L62 >>> its getting pgrouting from the A above >>> its getting osm2pgrouiting from where??? if it was empty >> >> OSGeoLive uses the standard Ubuntu package repositories and pulls >> additional packages from its own and other PPAs: >> >> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/tree/master/sources.list.d >> >> The osm2pgrouting packages in the PPA are available on Launchpad: >> >> >> https://launchpad.net/~osgeolive/+archive/ubuntu/release-9.5/+sourcepub/6184209/+listing-archive-extra >> >> I'll use those packages to populate the git repository for use within >> the Debian GIS team to get the package into shape for inclusion in >> Debian and Ubuntu itself. I'd like your help to maintain these packages >> in Debian and Ubuntu, you're free to chose your level of involvement >> from none to doing all the packaging work in addition to your upstream >> development. Keeping the pgrouting packaging updates has so far been >> easy, and it don't expect osm2pgrouting to be any different. >> >>> Sorry for my ignorance >>> >>> Vicky Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] pgRouting
On 04/29/2016 06:16 PM, Vicky Vergara wrote: > Thanks > Lots to read & learn. > So I'll try from the beginning: > I can see this: > https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?packages=pgrouting > and I don't understand the basics, like the difference between stable and > unstable > popcorn > I can see pgrouting 2.2.2 so I figure that its packed somewhere somehow. > (where?? = A) The package names in the first column are links to the Package Tracker: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/pgrouting This is gives a nice overview of the versions in Debian and links to the packaging repository, upstream homepage, various QA tools, etc. You can create an account on the tracker, and subscribe to notifications for various events specific to the package like bugreports and new uploads. > VS > https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?packages=osm2pgrouting > which looks empty so no package osm2pgrouting is indeed not packaged for Debian yet. The packaging created for OSGeo-Live is a good starting point. The source packages can be imported in a git repositories suitable for Debian package maintenance (using `gbp import-dscs` [0]). [0] https://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=gbp-import-dscs > And from > https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/master/bin/install_pgrouting.sh#L54 > https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/master/bin/install_pgrouting.sh#L62 > its getting pgrouting from the A above > its getting osm2pgrouiting from where??? if it was empty OSGeoLive uses the standard Ubuntu package repositories and pulls additional packages from its own and other PPAs: https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/tree/master/sources.list.d The osm2pgrouting packages in the PPA are available on Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~osgeolive/+archive/ubuntu/release-9.5/+sourcepub/6184209/+listing-archive-extra I'll use those packages to populate the git repository for use within the Debian GIS team to get the package into shape for inclusion in Debian and Ubuntu itself. I'd like your help to maintain these packages in Debian and Ubuntu, you're free to chose your level of involvement from none to doing all the packaging work in addition to your upstream development. Keeping the pgrouting packaging updates has so far been easy, and it don't expect osm2pgrouting to be any different. > Sorry for my ignorance > > Vicky Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] pgRouting
On 04/28/2016 08:02 PM, Vicky Vergara wrote: > I don't know what to do to have osm2pgrouting packaged > > maybe you can guide me on that. You're very welcome to (help) maintain the osm2pgrouting packaging within the Debian GIS team where most other source packages included in OSGeo-Live are maintained. The Debian GIS team policy documents the packaging workflow (although lacks a section for backports and no-change rebuilds for Ubuntu, that's still TODO): https://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/policy/ Specifically the 'Starting a new package' section: https://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/policy/packaging.html#git-new-package You need to modify the packaging template for osm2pgrouting accordingly. Also consult the linked documentation in the 'Essential readings' section, especially the 'New Maintainer's Guide' is helpful the get started with packaging: https://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/policy/index.html#readings I'm happy to help you maintain the osm2pgrouting packaging, as I'd like to see more people actively contributing to the packages they care about. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] OpenJDK
On 03/23/2016 10:57 PM, Pieter du Plooy wrote: > If I install OpenJDK 8, will it break anything on an OsgeoLive install? It shouldn't, but if it does you can change the java alternatives back to openjdk-7 with the update-java-alternatives utility [0] to switch the alternatives for all JRE executables not just /usr/bin/java. # update-java-alternatives -s java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd64 You should pass JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.8.0-openjdk-amd64 to Whitebox to have it use the non-default JRE and leave the other applications to use the default JRE configured in the alternatives system. [0] http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=update-java-alternatives Please ignore the Ubuntu Java documentation [1], it says to use update-alternatives --config java, but this is inferior to update-java-alternatives. [1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Press Release DRAFT v9.5
On 03/21/2016 03:22 AM, Brian M Hamlin wrote: > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_66#OSGeo-Live_9.5_Released > > any thoughts about "geopackage" support ? major features missing ? For GeoPackage support you're missing GDAL 2.0 and SpatiaLite 4.3.0 at least. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Motion: Include Jupyter as beta in 9.5 release
On 10-03-16 11:12, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > In order to resolve the Jupyter mess, this is my new proposal: > > 1. Accept the pull request from Massimo > https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-Notebooks/pull/5 > This way his work will be acknowledged, the same way as previous > Notebook work done by Brian. > > 2. Since we are too close to release and there are concerns about the > publication quality of the Notebooks, I propose we do not link Jupyter > to our main docs, so the visibility is low for new users. > > This way we avoid going into a dead-end discussion about which notebooks > to select etc. > > 3. We reconsider the Notebook git organization towards a proper > inclusion for release 10.0. This seems like a good compromise. Cameron has some good arguments, but is a bit too strict wrt criteria for acceptance. It's difficult to balance keeping high standards, and not demotivating your volunteers with strict enforcement. I'm in favour of this proposal because it seems to allow both parties to gain from this, without risking adverse effects to the quality of OSGeo-Live. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Upcoming 2016 FOSS4G events? - and OSGeo-Live draft press release and schedule
On 19-11-15 09:54, Johan Van de Wauw wrote: > gdal (1.11.2+dfsg-3ubuntu1) wily; urgency=medium > > * Merge with Debian; remaining changes: > - Cherry-pick upstream patch to fix compatiblity with poppler ≥ 0.31. > > Do you know if this patch is included in 1.11.3? Yes, Even backported the poppler changes properly after I mentioned on gdal-dev that Ubuntu planned to backport those changes to 1.11 anyway, see: https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/gdal-dev/2015-September/042636.html https://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/ticket/6118 Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] GRASS and QGIS versions on OSGeo-Live?
On 02-08-15 23:14, Markus Neteler wrote: On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/08/2015 1:30 am, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: You can't drop GRASS 6 without breaking QGIS 2.8. For GRASS 7 support you need QGIS = 2.10. The final GRASS 7 changes expected in QGIS 2.12. http://www.gissula.eu/qgis-grass-plugin-crowdfunding/ Kind Regards, Bas Based on Bas' comment, I sounds like we need to consider either dropping Grass back to version 6 ... hopefully just a joke :) In Debian it's not a joke. GRASS 7 is still in experimental because it breaks the QGIS plugin. There was strong user demand to not break the QGIS GRASS plugin that convinced me to not move it out of experimental before the QGIS issue is fixed. I was a bit disappointed that it required monetary incentive to update the QGIS GRASS plugin via the crowdfunding campain. An unfortuntate consequence of the user base not possessing the skills to contribute the GRASS 7 changes I guess. or increasing QGIS to 2.10 on our next OSGeo-Live 9.0. Any comments on the viability of moving QGIS to 2.10 on OSGeo-Live? Cameron: I don't think that the integration interface of QGIS (younger) with GRASS (32 years old now, co-founder of OSGeo) can dicate that OSGeo-Live be going back to GRASS GIS 6. OSGeo-Live's role as a showcase of the best of breed open source geospatial applications is a good reason to not be as conservative as Debian and update QGIS to 2.10 along with GRASS 7.0.1. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Starting build cycle for OSGeo-Live 9.0
On 05/22/2015 11:16 PM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:26 PM, m...@activityworkshop.net wrote: But if I look at the gpsprune package, I can see version 15.1 in Trusty, 17.1 in Vivid, 17.2 in Debian stable-backports, but only 10.1 in ubuntugis-unstable (unless I'm reading it wrong). So does that mean for gpsprune, OSGeoLive will continue to include version 15.1 for the next release? Unless somebody at ubuntugis does some repackaging or backporting or something? I had a look to backport gpsprune. It will also require a backport of libmetadata-extractor-java, which in turn will break josm, so that will need an update as well (which is probably a good idea, the version in trusty is old. But this requires also an update to jmapviewer (I have not yet looked further). Just backport gpsprune (17.2-1) like I did for jessie-backports. gpsprune (17.2-2~exp1) only has a patch for libmetadata-extractor-java 2.7.2. gpsprune 18 is expected to include this patch, so it will need to be reverted in future backports to not require the libmetadata-extractor-java update. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] qgis 2.6.1 pluging for grass7
On 05/21/2015 03:49 PM, Giuseppe Amatulli wrote: Do you know if the OSGeo-Live 8.5 supports the qgis-plugin-grass for GRASS7 and if yes may be available trough the ppa:osgeolive/release-8.5? GRASS 7 support for the native QGIS plugin is still being developed upstream, see: http://www.gissula.eu/qgis-grass-plugin-crowdfunding/ http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-dev/2015-March/074619.html Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Who will be at FOSDEM?
On 12/01/2014 10:21 PM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote: I know that at least Bas (Couwenberg) and I will be going to FOSDEM[1] 31 january-1 february in Brussels (Belgium). Since this year there will be both a geospatial devroom [1] and a distributions devroom [2], it may be an ideal timing for having a Debian GIS - OSGeo live meeting. I fully support meeting face 2 face @ FOSDEM. Last year I didn't manage to meet either Francesco or you in person, and I'd like to correct that this year. :-) I have also just been writing a proposal for the geospatial devroom about both projects (one could argue that with a slightly different focus it could be a proposal for the distributions devroom instead), but we could also opt for having a BoF meeting somewhere outside the devrooms (or even have a sprint on friday/monday?). Your talk is a nice way to get the people from the teams in the same room, and we can continue the discussion in the hall if it exceeds the time slot. I'm also able to attend a sprint on Friday or Monday if the timing is right, as I'll be traveling in and out of Belgium on those days. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/E88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Problem with spatialite-gui
On 11/22/2014 04:07 PM, Micha Silver wrote: There is a serious bug somewhere between spatialite-gui and the new wxgtk-3.0. This has rendered spatialite-gui nearly unusable. It crashes any time you try to load a shapefile; typing into the sql window is sporadic and unreliable. In short - a show stopper. This has been discussed pretty thoroughly a month ago on the spatialite-users maillist: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/spatialite-users/p0AfZ23u-yY I guess that is Debian Bug #761629: https://bugs.debian.org/761629 This was fixed in spatialite-gui/1.7.1-5: http://sources.debian.net/src/spatialite-gui/1.7.1-5/debian/changelog/ The spatialite-gui in the UbuntuGIS and OSGeo Live PPAs claims to be a rebuild of this revision of the debian package, but it is actually just a rebuild of spatialite-gui/1.7.1-4 which does not contain the bug fix: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/176637510/spatialite-gui_1.7.1-2_1.7.1-5~trusty1.diff.gz Rebuilding the spatialite-gui/1.7.1-5 from the Debian GIS git repository for OSGeo Live updating it to version 1.7.1-5~trusty2 should fix the issue. http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-grass/spatialite-gui.git http://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/policy/packaging.html#git-packaging Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/E88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] Problem with spatialite-gui
On 11/22/2014 08:38 PM, Micha Silver wrote: Since the OSGeo Live policy is to stick with apt-getable packages as much as possible, I guess the best is to wait till the debian fix filters down to ubuntugis. Why wait? You just need to ping someone who can update the package for OSGeo Live and UbuntuGIS at the same time. :-) Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/E88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo live 7.9 download issue
On 03/14/2014 10:49 PM, Wu, Qiusheng (wuqe) wrote: Hi all, The links on sourceforge.net for downloading osgeo-live-7.9.iso are not working. Any other alternative links I can download? http://sourceforge.net/projects/osgeo-live/files/7.9/ Specifying a mirror seems to workaround the redirect issue. http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/osgeo-live/7.9/osgeo-live-7.9.iso?r=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fosgeo-live%2Ffiles%2F7.0%2Fts=1394834116use_mirror=skylink replace 'osgeo-live-7.9.iso' with any of the other files you need: osgeo-live-7.9.iso.md5 http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/osgeo-live/7.9/osgeo-live-7.9.iso.md5?r=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fosgeo-live%2Ffiles%2F7.0%2Fts=1394834116use_mirror=skylink osgeo-live-vm-7.9.7z http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/osgeo-live/7.9/osgeo-live-vm-7.9.7z?r=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fosgeo-live%2Ffiles%2F7.0%2Fts=1394834116use_mirror=skylink osgeo-live-vm-7.9.7z.md5 http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/osgeo-live/7.9/osgeo-live-vm-7.9.7z.md5?r=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fosgeo-live%2Ffiles%2F7.0%2Fts=1394834116use_mirror=skylink osgeo-live-mini-7.9.iso.md5 http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/osgeo-live/7.9/osgeo-live-mini-7.9.iso.md5?r=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fosgeo-live%2Ffiles%2F7.0%2Fts=1394834116use_mirror=skylink osgeo-live-mini-7.9.iso http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/osgeo-live/7.9/osgeo-live-mini-7.9.iso?r=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fosgeo-live%2Ffiles%2F7.0%2Fts=1394834116use_mirror=skylink Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/E88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo] #1256: python liblas error
On 03/02/2014 11:38 PM, OSGeo wrote: Comment: the error is: OSError: liblas_c.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory /usr/lib/liblas_c.so.2.2.0 exists, it's easy to just add the missing symlink. hopefully worked-around in r11304. The actual symlink is provided by the liblas-c-dev .deb package, but we don't install that. (it wants to bring in another 33mb (compressed) of other packages) Hamish The libLAS package in Debian unstable was fixed with the upload of liblas 1.7.0+dfsg-3. The SONAME fix is in git at: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-grass/liblas.git;a=commitdiff;h=9bf3ef806126c7b2372ea34e593ed7bcde026cc1 I suggest you rebuild the binary package using the latest source from the Debian GIS git repository. Upload the recent changes to Debian unstable will result in FTBFS until #739807 affecting the boost package is fixed. I'm waiting for boost to get fixed before preparing a new build for Debian. https://bugs.debian.org/739807 Kind Regards, Bas ___ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc