Re: [lldb-dev] [cfe-dev] FYI: Landing the initial draft for an LLVM Code of Conduct

2016-06-30 Thread Hal Finkel via lldb-dev 
- Original Message -
> From: "Aaron Ballman via cfe-dev" 
> To: "Chandler Carruth" 
> Cc: "llvm-dev" , "cfe-dev" , 
> "openmp-dev
> (openmp-...@lists.llvm.org)" , "LLDB" 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:34:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [cfe-dev] FYI: Landing the initial draft for an LLVM Code of 
> Conduct
> 
> Thank you for your continuing efforts on the Code of Conduct! I
> appreciate the efforts and strongly support this direction.
> 
> ~Aaron

+1

 -Hal

> 
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Chandler Carruth via cfe-dev
>  wrote:
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > As mentioned some time ago[1], we’ve had a long (looong) series
> > of
> > discussions about establishing a code-of-conduct for the LLVM
> > project as a
> > whole over on the llvm-dev thread and the
> > http://reviews.llvm.org/D13741
> > code review.
> >
> > The discussion has largely died down for some time, and towards the
> > end
> > there has been pretty wide support for the draft wording we have
> > now. It
> > isn’t perfect, and there are still some important questions around
> > forming
> > the advisory committee to handle reporting, but I think the wording
> > is at a
> > good point of compromise in a challenging area.
> >
> > Based on the support, I’m going to land the patch that adds the
> > draft. I’m
> > hoping this will immediately provide good advice and guidance, and
> > I’m
> > hoping to see motion on setting up a reasonable advisory committee
> > and
> > resolving any issues around reporting so we can make this an
> > official part
> > of the community.
> >
> > I sending this as a heads up so folks are aware, not to start a new
> > discussion thread. There are existing discussion threads[2] on
> > llvm-dev if
> > folks want to join in active discussion or we can start fresh ones,
> > but I
> > would encourage people to carefully read the discussion that has
> > already
> > taken place to avoid revisiting areas that have already been
> > heavily
> > discussed.
> >
> > Also, many thanks to the folks who provided all their opinions on
> > the
> > mailing list threads and in person in long discussions about this
> > topic.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Chandler
> >
> > [1]: Prior announcements:
> > http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2015-October/091218.html
> > http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/cfe-dev/2015-October/045460.html
> > http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/lldb-dev/2015-October/008530.html
> > http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/openmp-dev/2015-October/000954.html
> >
> > [2]: Existing threads:
> > http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2015-October/091218.html
> > http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2016-May/099120.html
> > http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-commits/Week-of-Mon-20151019/307070.html
> >
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-- 
Hal Finkel
Assistant Computational Scientist
Leadership Computing Facility
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Re: [lldb-dev] [cfe-dev] FYI: Landing the initial draft for an LLVM Code of Conduct

2016-06-30 Thread Aaron Ballman via lldb-dev 
Thank you for your continuing efforts on the Code of Conduct! I
appreciate the efforts and strongly support this direction.

~Aaron

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Chandler Carruth via cfe-dev
 wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> As mentioned some time ago[1], we’ve had a long (looong) series of
> discussions about establishing a code-of-conduct for the LLVM project as a
> whole over on the llvm-dev thread and the http://reviews.llvm.org/D13741
> code review.
>
> The discussion has largely died down for some time, and towards the end
> there has been pretty wide support for the draft wording we have now. It
> isn’t perfect, and there are still some important questions around forming
> the advisory committee to handle reporting, but I think the wording is at a
> good point of compromise in a challenging area.
>
> Based on the support, I’m going to land the patch that adds the draft. I’m
> hoping this will immediately provide good advice and guidance, and I’m
> hoping to see motion on setting up a reasonable advisory committee and
> resolving any issues around reporting so we can make this an official part
> of the community.
>
> I sending this as a heads up so folks are aware, not to start a new
> discussion thread. There are existing discussion threads[2] on llvm-dev if
> folks want to join in active discussion or we can start fresh ones, but I
> would encourage people to carefully read the discussion that has already
> taken place to avoid revisiting areas that have already been heavily
> discussed.
>
> Also, many thanks to the folks who provided all their opinions on the
> mailing list threads and in person in long discussions about this topic.
>
> Thanks,
> -Chandler
>
> [1]: Prior announcements:
> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2015-October/091218.html
> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/cfe-dev/2015-October/045460.html
> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/lldb-dev/2015-October/008530.html
> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/openmp-dev/2015-October/000954.html
>
> [2]: Existing threads:
> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2015-October/091218.html
> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2016-May/099120.html
> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-commits/Week-of-Mon-20151019/307070.html
>
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Re: [lldb-dev] [cfe-dev] FYI: Landing the initial draft for an LLVM Code of Conduct

2016-06-30 Thread Rafael Espíndola via lldb-dev 
I am strongly opposed to it as it stands.

Who decided this and with what authority? As written the code of
conduct tries restrict the acceptable opinions one may voice even in
channels not related to llvm at all.

With this in place I will not consider myself a member of the llvm
community anymore and would be terrified to interact with another llvm
developer in a social setting.

Rafael

On 30 June 2016 at 14:55, Chandler Carruth via cfe-dev
 wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> As mentioned some time ago[1], we’ve had a long (looong) series of
> discussions about establishing a code-of-conduct for the LLVM project as a
> whole over on the llvm-dev thread and the http://reviews.llvm.org/D13741
> code review.
>
> The discussion has largely died down for some time, and towards the end
> there has been pretty wide support for the draft wording we have now. It
> isn’t perfect, and there are still some important questions around forming
> the advisory committee to handle reporting, but I think the wording is at a
> good point of compromise in a challenging area.
>
> Based on the support, I’m going to land the patch that adds the draft. I’m
> hoping this will immediately provide good advice and guidance, and I’m
> hoping to see motion on setting up a reasonable advisory committee and
> resolving any issues around reporting so we can make this an official part
> of the community.
>
> I sending this as a heads up so folks are aware, not to start a new
> discussion thread. There are existing discussion threads[2] on llvm-dev if
> folks want to join in active discussion or we can start fresh ones, but I
> would encourage people to carefully read the discussion that has already
> taken place to avoid revisiting areas that have already been heavily
> discussed.
>
> Also, many thanks to the folks who provided all their opinions on the
> mailing list threads and in person in long discussions about this topic.
>
> Thanks,
> -Chandler
>
> [1]: Prior announcements:
> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2015-October/091218.html
> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/cfe-dev/2015-October/045460.html
> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/lldb-dev/2015-October/008530.html
> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/openmp-dev/2015-October/000954.html
>
> [2]: Existing threads:
> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2015-October/091218.html
> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2016-May/099120.html
> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-commits/Week-of-Mon-20151019/307070.html
>
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