Re: logj, EJBs, JBoss revisited (design issues)

2003-11-21 Thread Stefan Puiu
Hello and thanks for replying,

Well, our design is slightly more complicated, since the logging classes 
also need database access, and the logging classes in module A uses for 
example the datasource java:/A, so as the logging part is designed right 
now you can't view the classes as a library but as an EJB component that 
is customized for each app it runs with. It's probably a bad design 
choice and a JBoss issue, after all.

[I've written and sent this reply a few days ago, but used Reply to 
Sender Only, my mistake...]

Elias Ross wrote:

On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 02:08, Stefan Puiu wrote:
 

The second one is related to finding a different solution using log4j. 
We needed to have a custom logger for two main reasons:

1) supplementary pattern converters (besides the parameters supported by 
log4j, we need a supplementary set specific to our app)
2) logging to a database; jdbcAppender is said to be experimental and 
subject to change in future versions, so we couldn't have used it 
without risking to have to change the code with newer log4j versions.
   



Can't you just write your own pattern converter and appender and stick
only those few (2) classes in a .jar file, deploy them in
$JBOSS_DIST/server/default/lib, and _not_ write your own Logger class?
Assuming you don't need to change these very often, it may work better
to have them static.
I'm not sure how reliable it is to have hot-redeployed appenders and
pattern converters.  People have a difficult enough time as-is without
layering on class loading complexity.


 



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setting up multiple log4j configurations for multiple WAR package s?

2003-11-21 Thread Yuzwa, Erik
Hi all,

I'm sorry if this is a FAQ, as I've looked everywhere and can't find very
many
resources on setting up multiple log4j configurations for different WAR
packages
(ie. a seperate set of log files for each WAR app).

I've tried including a log4j.xml and log4j.blah.jar file with each WAR, but
that
doesn't seem to work properly.

Is there a configuration setting that I'm missing on the servlet container
itself?
Should the log4j.blah.jar file be in the classpath of the servlet container
or 
remain on the application layer?

thanks!

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how to set log4j.ignoreTCL in XML config file

2003-11-21 Thread Kloeck, Erwin
Hi,


I want to use log4j and junit together. I discovered that
for this to work I have to set the system property
log4j.ignoreTCL=true. When I do this with the -D option it works.

Can I set this property in my log4jconfig.xml file as well?
And if so, how would I do this.

Thanks for your help

..

Erwin Kloeck
Produktentwicklung

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RE: setting up multiple log4j configurations for multiple WAR pac kage s?

2003-11-21 Thread Ken . Liu
IMHO, the simplest and easiest configuration to maintain is to place
log4j.jar in WEB-INF/lib and log4j.xml in WEB-INF/classes in each WAR.  This
should work fine without any additional server configuration.  You should
not have log4j.jar in your server's classpath or logging won't be separate
between webapps.

Ken

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 Subject: setting up multiple log4j configurations for multiple WAR
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 Hi all,
 
 I'm sorry if this is a FAQ, as I've looked everywhere and 
 can't find very
 many
 resources on setting up multiple log4j configurations for 
 different WAR
 packages
 (ie. a seperate set of log files for each WAR app).
 
 I've tried including a log4j.xml and log4j.blah.jar file with 
 each WAR, but
 that
 doesn't seem to work properly.
 
 Is there a configuration setting that I'm missing on the 
 servlet container
 itself?
 Should the log4j.blah.jar file be in the classpath of the 
 servlet container
 or 
 remain on the application layer?
 
 thanks!
 
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Problem with adding double quotes in a conversion pattern for PatternLayout specified in an XML configuration

2003-11-21 Thread Noel Sebastien (BIL)
Hi everyone,

I have a problem with adding double quotes in a conversion pattern for PatternLayout 
specified in an XML configuration.

Let's see the XML configuration fragment :

appender name=AuditActivityFileAppender 
class=org.apache.log4j.FileAppender
param name=File  
value=${ginko.rootdir.as.file}/logs/audit_activity.log /
param name=Appendvalue=true /
layout class=org.apache.log4j.PatternLayout
param name=ConversionPattern value=%d{ISO8601}%m%n/
/layout   
/appender

I would like to surround the date generated by %d{ISO8601} with double quotes like 
%d{ISO8601}, in order to output 01:15:23 instead of the plain 0115:23 ... BUT XML 
delimiter is this double quote !
Thus a XML parsing error occurs !! How can I do ? Do you have any escape sequence for 
the special character , such as %q (like Quote) ?
I can't find any solution.
Thank you in advance ...

Sébastien



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RE: setting up multiple log4j configurations for multiple WAR pac kage s?

2003-11-21 Thread Yuzwa, Erik
Hi Ken,
Thanks for the reply.

That's a good idea, and that should (logically) work.

We're using JRun as our servlet engine, and I've discovered that on a global
level, it loads up a log4j.properties file which is buried in one of the
.jars that ships with the product. This one seems to be trumping all of the
ones defined in the WAR packages.

I'm attempting to remove it in order to keep the logging at an application
level, so we'll see how that goes.

I'd also like to ask if there was a way to specify where to dump said log
files? If we have multiple WAR packages all configured to use log4j, we'd
like them to be dumped at a location of our choosing (rather than a location
chosen by the application), for security reasons.

Is this possible?

ie. maybe setup a global log4j.properties file which defines a filepath for
all child log4j.xml objects?? *shrug*

IS this even possible?

thanks again!


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IMHO, the simplest and easiest configuration to maintain is to place
log4j.jar in WEB-INF/lib and log4j.xml in WEB-INF/classes in each WAR.  This
should work fine without any additional server configuration.  You should
not have log4j.jar in your server's classpath or logging won't be separate
between webapps.

Ken

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 Subject: setting up multiple log4j configurations for multiple WAR
 package s?
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm sorry if this is a FAQ, as I've looked everywhere and 
 can't find very
 many
 resources on setting up multiple log4j configurations for 
 different WAR
 packages
 (ie. a seperate set of log files for each WAR app).
 
 I've tried including a log4j.xml and log4j.blah.jar file with 
 each WAR, but
 that
 doesn't seem to work properly.
 
 Is there a configuration setting that I'm missing on the 
 servlet container
 itself?
 Should the log4j.blah.jar file be in the classpath of the 
 servlet container
 or 
 remain on the application layer?
 
 thanks!
 
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Concurrency and performance degradation

2003-11-21 Thread Campos Rui Oliveira
Hi, everyone.

I'm stress testing a J2EE application and in certain executions (it is not happening 
always for the same conditions, maybe in 10% of the cases), i have got terrible times 
for a test case, and when i go and analyze where the most of the time is consumed, i 
realized that there is at Log4j in Category.info() statements.

Our logging strategy is to have a static Logger variable in each class that we want to 
have logging enabled with the fully qualified class name as the name of the logger. We 
are using DailyRollingFileAppender and ConsoleAppender to log into a file and into the 
console output.

There is anyway to improve the performance in a concurrency environment (maybe 
defining a buffer size and have only one thread writing to the file and to the 
console? ) and prevent this concurrency problems?
If, instead of having the logger for each class as a static variable, if i have a 
Logger instance for each instance of each class (as an instance variable), the 
performance is improved?

Regards,
 Rui Campos
 

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RE: Concurrency and performance degradation

2003-11-21 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,

There is anyway to improve the performance in a concurrency environment
(maybe defining a buffer size and have only one thread writing to the
file
and to the console? ) and prevent this concurrency problems?
If, instead of having the logger for each class as a static variable,
if i
have a Logger instance for each instance of each class (as an instance
variable), the performance is improved?

No, keep one instance per class.

Consider using the AsyncAppender or writing a buffered appender like the
SMTPAppender.

Yoav Shapira



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RE: Concurrency and performance degradation

2003-11-21 Thread Campos Rui Oliveira
Hi.

Thanks for the reply.

What are the implications of using an AsyncAppender? With AsyncAppender don't i have 
an high probability of get a confused log with lines cutted at half by other lines 
that are being added?

Rui Campos

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Howdy,

There is anyway to improve the performance in a concurrency environment
(maybe defining a buffer size and have only one thread writing to the
file
and to the console? ) and prevent this concurrency problems?
If, instead of having the logger for each class as a static variable,
if i
have a Logger instance for each instance of each class (as an instance
variable), the performance is improved?

No, keep one instance per class.

Consider using the AsyncAppender or writing a buffered appender like the
SMTPAppender.

Yoav Shapira



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RE: Concurrency and performance degradation

2003-11-21 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,
I don't know, I haven't used it, as I haven't found the need for it.
What I do in high-load environment is surround INFO and DEBUG level
statements with is-enabled checks (Logger.isDebugEnabled() etc.), which
reduces their overhead by nearly 100%.  I don't have INFO and DEBUG
enabled in production, so I don't suffer from high load at all.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


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Hi.

Thanks for the reply.

What are the implications of using an AsyncAppender? With AsyncAppender
don't i have an high probability of get a confused log with lines
cutted at
half by other lines that are being added?

Rui Campos

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Howdy,

There is anyway to improve the performance in a concurrency
environment
(maybe defining a buffer size and have only one thread writing to the
file
and to the console? ) and prevent this concurrency problems?
If, instead of having the logger for each class as a static variable,
if i
have a Logger instance for each instance of each class (as an instance
variable), the performance is improved?

No, keep one instance per class.

Consider using the AsyncAppender or writing a buffered appender like
the
SMTPAppender.

Yoav Shapira



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Re: Concurrency and performance degradation

2003-11-21 Thread Horst Scheruga
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:48:31 +0100 (MET)
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Subject: Re: Concurrency and performance degradation

This problem seems very common to me.
Costs me 2 days to figure out the trivial and obviousliy reason in my case.

I your question I found that you are using a console appender.
First remove it and look at the performance again.
(Best done by setting the threshold of the appender to WARN or ERROR)
If your problem still exists then sorry, I cannot help you.

For me the problem was to have the console appender activly logging
everything and accessing the
Server via a remote tool (VNC).

I think LOG4J should have a FAQ and one common question would be
Why takes my log-statement so long to execute?
The problem I described should be one point of the answer to this question.

regards
Horst Scheruga

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RE: Concurrency and performance degradation

2003-11-21 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy
Firstly, log4j already has a FAQ, and moreover it's wiki so you can put your money 
where your mouth is.

Secondly, I don't think this is technically a FAQ as it's asked very rarely (about 
once in six months I think).

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:48:31 +0100 (MET)
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Concurrency and performance degradation

This problem seems very common to me.
Costs me 2 days to figure out the trivial and obviousliy reason in my case.

I your question I found that you are using a console appender.
First remove it and look at the performance again.
(Best done by setting the threshold of the appender to WARN or ERROR)
If your problem still exists then sorry, I cannot help you.

For me the problem was to have the console appender activly logging
everything and accessing the
Server via a remote tool (VNC).

I think LOG4J should have a FAQ and one common question would be
Why takes my log-statement so long to execute?
The problem I described should be one point of the answer to this question.

regards
Horst Scheruga

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RE: setting up multiple log4j configurations for multiple WAR pac kage s?

2003-11-21 Thread Jacob Kjome
Does JRun not load from the WebappClassLoader first?  Tomcat does this, and 
I believe the servlet spec defines this behavior (but don't quote me on 
that).  Sounds like the same thing JBoss does by default.  The way Tomcat 
works makes things much easier to work with since libraries in the server 
won't mess up your webapp which has its own versions locally with the 
webapp.  I'll be JRun can be configured to load from the WebappClassLoader 
first.  Might want to look at see.  Otherwise, you can do configuration 
yourself and use a repository selector from the log4j sandbox.  Search the 
archives and the Wiki for more info on using repository selectors in 
application servers.

Jake

At 09:21 AM 11/21/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Hi Ken,
Thanks for the reply.
That's a good idea, and that should (logically) work.

We're using JRun as our servlet engine, and I've discovered that on a global
level, it loads up a log4j.properties file which is buried in one of the
.jars that ships with the product. This one seems to be trumping all of the
ones defined in the WAR packages.
I'm attempting to remove it in order to keep the logging at an application
level, so we'll see how that goes.
I'd also like to ask if there was a way to specify where to dump said log
files? If we have multiple WAR packages all configured to use log4j, we'd
like them to be dumped at a location of our choosing (rather than a location
chosen by the application), for security reasons.
Is this possible?

ie. maybe setup a global log4j.properties file which defines a filepath for
all child log4j.xml objects?? *shrug*
IS this even possible?

thanks again!

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IMHO, the simplest and easiest configuration to maintain is to place
log4j.jar in WEB-INF/lib and log4j.xml in WEB-INF/classes in each WAR.  This
should work fine without any additional server configuration.  You should
not have log4j.jar in your server's classpath or logging won't be separate
between webapps.
Ken

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 Hi all,

 I'm sorry if this is a FAQ, as I've looked everywhere and
 can't find very
 many
 resources on setting up multiple log4j configurations for
 different WAR
 packages
 (ie. a seperate set of log files for each WAR app).

 I've tried including a log4j.xml and log4j.blah.jar file with
 each WAR, but
 that
 doesn't seem to work properly.

 Is there a configuration setting that I'm missing on the
 servlet container
 itself?
 Should the log4j.blah.jar file be in the classpath of the
 servlet container
 or
 remain on the application layer?

 thanks!

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Re: Problem with adding double quotes in a conversion pattern for PatternLayout specified in an XML configuration

2003-11-21 Thread Jacob Kjome
Have you tried quot;

Jake

At 04:47 PM 11/21/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Hi everyone,

I have a problem with adding double quotes in a conversion pattern for 
PatternLayout specified in an XML configuration.

Let's see the XML configuration fragment :

appender name=AuditActivityFileAppender 
class=org.apache.log4j.FileAppender
param 
name=File  value=${ginko.rootdir.as.file}/logs/audit_activity.log /
param name=Appendvalue=true /
layout class=org.apache.log4j.PatternLayout
param name=ConversionPattern 
value=%d{ISO8601}%m%n/
/layout
/appender

I would like to surround the date generated by %d{ISO8601} with double 
quotes like %d{ISO8601}, in order to output 01:15:23 instead of the 
plain 0115:23 ... BUT XML delimiter is this double quote !
Thus a XML parsing error occurs !! How can I do ? Do you have any escape 
sequence for the special character , such as %q (like Quote) ?
I can't find any solution.
Thank you in advance ...

Sébastien



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