Re: setting up multiple log4j configurations for multiple WAR pac kage s?

2003-11-22 Thread Dennis Cook
So if the server itself uses log4j for logging, does that mean that you 
will not be able to configure individual web apps to work independently 
of each other and or the server?

On Friday, November 21, 2003, at 07:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

IMHO, the simplest and easiest configuration to maintain is to place
log4j.jar in WEB-INF/lib and log4j.xml in WEB-INF/classes in each WAR. 
 This
should work fine without any additional server configuration.  You 
should
not have log4j.jar in your server's classpath or logging won't be 
separate
between webapps.

Ken

-Original Message-
From: Yuzwa, Erik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:30 AM
To: 'Log4J Users List'
Subject: setting up multiple log4j configurations for multiple WAR
package s?
Hi all,

I'm sorry if this is a FAQ, as I've looked everywhere and
can't find very
many
resources on setting up multiple log4j configurations for
different WAR
packages
(ie. a seperate set of log files for each WAR app).
I've tried including a log4j.xml and log4j.blah.jar file with
each WAR, but
that
doesn't seem to work properly.
Is there a configuration setting that I'm missing on the
servlet container
itself?
Should the log4j.blah.jar file be in the classpath of the
servlet container
or
remain on the application layer?
thanks!

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Re: setting up multiple log4j configurations for multiple WAR pac kage s?

2003-11-22 Thread Jacob Kjome
No, his statement is incorrect.  You can utilize a repository selector to 
separate logging using a single instance of log4j.jar.  Read here...

http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?Log4JProjectPages/AppContainerLogging

In fact, if you use Tomcat, even without using a repository selector, you 
can provide for container logging and webapp logging, all completely 
separated.  Put log4j.jar in CATALINA_HOME/common/lib, put a log4j.xml in 
CATALNIA_HOME/common/classes, and then put log4j.jar in each WEB-INF/lib 
and either do manual configuration with log4j.xml somewhere like WEB-INF or 
do auto-config with it in WEB-INF/classes.  All your logging should be 
separated without even bothering with a repository selector.  This behavior 
depends on the way the class loaders are set up, though.  Tomat loads 
classes and resources from the WebappClassLoader preferentially to higher 
class loaders.  This is opposite the normal Java2 class loader behavior, 
but defined (I believe) by the servlet spec.  Other containers such as 
JBoss don't seem to do this by default, although you can configure them to 
do it.  As such, using the repository selectors is the only guaranteed way 
to achieve separated logging.

Jake

At 04:01 AM 11/22/2003 -0800, you wrote:
So if the server itself uses log4j for logging, does that mean that you 
will not be able to configure individual web apps to work independently of 
each other and or the server?

On Friday, November 21, 2003, at 07:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

IMHO, the simplest and easiest configuration to maintain is to place
log4j.jar in WEB-INF/lib and log4j.xml in WEB-INF/classes in each WAR.  This
should work fine without any additional server configuration.  You should
not have log4j.jar in your server's classpath or logging won't be separate
between webapps.
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Yuzwa, Erik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:30 AM
To: 'Log4J Users List'
Subject: setting up multiple log4j configurations for multiple WAR
package s?
Hi all,

I'm sorry if this is a FAQ, as I've looked everywhere and
can't find very
many
resources on setting up multiple log4j configurations for
different WAR
packages
(ie. a seperate set of log files for each WAR app).
I've tried including a log4j.xml and log4j.blah.jar file with
each WAR, but
that
doesn't seem to work properly.
Is there a configuration setting that I'm missing on the
servlet container
itself?
Should the log4j.blah.jar file be in the classpath of the
servlet container
or
remain on the application layer?
thanks!

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RE: setting up multiple log4j configurations for multiple WAR pac kage s?

2003-11-22 Thread Yuzwa, Erik
 Thanks a lot for the responses Jake!

I'll investigate this repository selector solution as you've suggested.
We did some brief tests coding our own Configurator, which seemed to do
*exactly* what we wanted during the server initialization (ie. it would
scroll through each WAR package with log4j, and dump the logs at a location
of our choosing.) However, in our environment, we typically do a lot of
hot deploys, rather than restarting the server every time. Whenever we'd do
a hot deploy, the Configurator was then never called. :(

Hopefully this repository selector will work out..*cross fingers*

I DID successfully get individual logging by removing ANY log4j.xml 
and jar files (along with common logging), from the server/lib folder,
and just keeping it self-contained within each WAR package.

So at least *that*'s working..:)

thanks again everyone!
Erik

-Original Message-
From: Jacob Kjome
To: Log4J Users List
Sent: 11/22/2003 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: setting up multiple log4j configurations for multiple WAR pac
kage s?


No, his statement is incorrect.  You can utilize a repository selector
to 
separate logging using a single instance of log4j.jar.  Read here...

http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?Log4JProjectPages/AppContai
nerLogging

In fact, if you use Tomcat, even without using a repository selector,
you 
can provide for container logging and webapp logging, all completely 
separated.  Put log4j.jar in CATALINA_HOME/common/lib, put a log4j.xml
in 
CATALNIA_HOME/common/classes, and then put log4j.jar in each WEB-INF/lib

and either do manual configuration with log4j.xml somewhere like WEB-INF
or 
do auto-config with it in WEB-INF/classes.  All your logging should be 
separated without even bothering with a repository selector.  This
behavior 
depends on the way the class loaders are set up, though.  Tomat loads 
classes and resources from the WebappClassLoader preferentially to
higher 
class loaders.  This is opposite the normal Java2 class loader behavior,

but defined (I believe) by the servlet spec.  Other containers such as 
JBoss don't seem to do this by default, although you can configure them
to 
do it.  As such, using the repository selectors is the only guaranteed
way 
to achieve separated logging.

Jake

At 04:01 AM 11/22/2003 -0800, you wrote:
So if the server itself uses log4j for logging, does that mean that you

will not be able to configure individual web apps to work independently
of 
each other and or the server?

On Friday, November 21, 2003, at 07:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

IMHO, the simplest and easiest configuration to maintain is to place
log4j.jar in WEB-INF/lib and log4j.xml in WEB-INF/classes in each WAR.
This
should work fine without any additional server configuration.  You
should
not have log4j.jar in your server's classpath or logging won't be
separate
between webapps.

Ken

-Original Message-
From: Yuzwa, Erik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:30 AM
To: 'Log4J Users List'
Subject: setting up multiple log4j configurations for multiple WAR
package s?


Hi all,

I'm sorry if this is a FAQ, as I've looked everywhere and
can't find very
many
resources on setting up multiple log4j configurations for
different WAR
packages
(ie. a seperate set of log files for each WAR app).

I've tried including a log4j.xml and log4j.blah.jar file with
each WAR, but
that
doesn't seem to work properly.

Is there a configuration setting that I'm missing on the
servlet container
itself?
Should the log4j.blah.jar file be in the classpath of the
servlet container
or
remain on the application layer?

thanks!

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