RE: Reposting of Log4J Question

2003-02-27 Thread Brendan Lawlor
By way of an answer to the original question of how to separate the logging
of an application on JBoss, the only satisfactory solution I've found has
been to stop using the ConsoleAppender and stick with a
RotatingFileAppender. All my applications loggers use this appender, and
their additivity is set to false.

This way, I get a file (or group of files) per application, in a format that
suits me.

It's low tech but it's portable and it works.

Regards,
Brendan.

-Original Message-
From: Jacob Kjome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 February 2003 15:11
To: Log4J Users List
Subject: Re: Reposting of Log4J Question



Hi Naresh,

No, I mean one repository selector per JVM.  Actually, this is sort of per
ClassLoader if you look at the case of webapps where the classloading
behavior is different than normal.  Webapps load classes, preferentially,
from the WebappClassLoader before looking to its parent classloader(s) so
if Log4j is stored in WEB-INF/lib of each app, Log4j has multiple unique
logging environments in a single JVM.  However, if normal classloading
behavior is assumed, then it is once per JVM.  Either way, Log4j can have
only one selector at a time in any single unique logging environment.

It is the repository selector that maintains the separation of
repositories.  Any individual repository selector must override the
getLoggerRepository() method.  Log4j will call that method to get the
logger repository for an application.  If the selector is being smart and
storing some information which identifies certain applications, it can
return a unique logger repository per application.  That is what the
ContextClassLoaderSelector does.  It stores a map of logger repositories
and keys each logger repository by the context classloader (the
WebappClassLoader unique to each webapp).  So when Log4j asks for the
logger repository in order to log for the app, the selector will only
return the logger repository keyed for that application.

Make sure you don't confuse the LoggerRepositorySelector with the
LoggerRepository.  Only one of the former can be set at any one time (which
we guard).  There can be infinite of the latter.

Does that make more sense?

Jake

At 08:13 PM 2/25/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Hi Jacob,

Iam attempting to incorporate similar custom
repository selector approach.
You mentioned
Note that Log4j will only use *ONE* custom repository
selector.

Did u mean one custom repository selector per app?

If the answer is Yes, than my confusion is,
Since LogManager has one private member variable of
type repository selector and we initialize that to a
custom repository by following
Object guard = new Object();
LogManager.setRepositorySelector(new
CusRepository(contextName), guard);

and if log4j is loaded only one time by the parent
classloader, how does logmanager maintain reference of
every application's CusRepositry ?












--- Jacob Kjome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello James,
 
  The functionality you are looking for is to be able
  to log within
  unique logger repositories using a custom logger
  repository selector.
  I have implemented such a selector (and a servlet
  context listener
  which configures log4j to use it at app/server
  startup) which keys
  logger repositories on the current classloader.
  Ceki has written
  about a repository selector which would use JNDI to
  key logger
  repositories.
 
  Now, since you are using JBoss and they have their
  single classloader
  concept (which, admittedly, I'm not so familiar
  with) I'm not sure the
  repository selector that I wrote will work for you.
  It certainly
  works in an environment where each webapp has its
  own unique
  classloader.  This still might be true for JBoss,
  but I'm not
  positive.
 
  To check out the repository selector I wrote, look
  here:
 
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-log4j-sandbox/src/java/org/apache/log
4j/selector/ContextClassLoaderSelector.java?rev=1.3content-type=text/vnd.vi
ewcvs-markup
 
  See the servlet context listener which initializes
  Log4j to use this
  custom selector here:
 
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-log4j-sandbox/src/java/org/apache/log
4j/servlet/InitContextListener.java?rev=1.2content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-ma
rkup
 
  Note that Log4j will only use *ONE* custom
  repository selector.  Once
  one is installed, the only way to change it to
  re-install the selector
  along with the original guard object which is used
  to protect the
  selector from being changed by a process not meant
  to do so.  So,
  unless you store the guard, you can pretty much
  assume that this is a
  one-shot thing.  As such, ideally, the container
  should be responsible
  for installing the selector.  My servlet context
  listener allows for
  any particular webapp to install the selector if one
  isn't already
  installed.  If one is, the installation will fail
  and the exception
  hidden.  In this situation, it is assumed that
  whatever process did
  the install knew what

RE: Reposting of Log4J Question

2003-02-27 Thread Brendan Lawlor
James,
   I tried that too - having separate loggers and a separate Appender. But
even then I encountered the problem you mentioned: my output was appended
onto the end of JBoss' logs format. Could you (offline perhaps, to spare the
list a repost) send me an example config file?

Thanks,
Brendan.

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 T: +353 21 2307051 The NSC-Campus
 F: +353 21 2307033 Loughmahon Technology Park
 M: +353 87 9370271 Cork
 www.spokesoft.com  Ireland

-Original Message-
From: Corbin, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 February 2003 15:42
To: Log4J Users List
Subject: RE: Reposting of Log4J Question



Brendan,

Per another post, I defined a different logger in my local config and it
doesn't conflict with the JBOSS logging.

For example,

I defined MyConsoleAppender and MyFileAppender (RollingFileAppender)

Then defined

log4j.logger.com.company.=DEBUG, MyConsoleAppender, MyFileAppender

Hope this helps.

J.D.

-Original Message-
From: Brendan Lawlor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:15 AM
To: Log4J Users List
Subject: RE: Reposting of Log4J Question

By way of an answer to the original question of how to separate the logging
of an application on JBoss, the only satisfactory solution I've found has
been to stop using the ConsoleAppender and stick with a
RotatingFileAppender. All my applications loggers use this appender, and
their additivity is set to false.

This way, I get a file (or group of files) per application, in a format that
suits me.

It's low tech but it's portable and it works.

Regards,
Brendan.

-Original Message-
From: Jacob Kjome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 February 2003 15:11
To: Log4J Users List
Subject: Re: Reposting of Log4J Question



Hi Naresh,

No, I mean one repository selector per JVM.  Actually, this is sort of per
ClassLoader if you look at the case of webapps where the classloading
behavior is different than normal.  Webapps load classes, preferentially,
from the WebappClassLoader before looking to its parent classloader(s) so
if Log4j is stored in WEB-INF/lib of each app, Log4j has multiple unique
logging environments in a single JVM.  However, if normal classloading
behavior is assumed, then it is once per JVM.  Either way, Log4j can have
only one selector at a time in any single unique logging environment.

It is the repository selector that maintains the separation of
repositories.  Any individual repository selector must override the
getLoggerRepository() method.  Log4j will call that method to get the
logger repository for an application.  If the selector is being smart and
storing some information which identifies certain applications, it can
return a unique logger repository per application.  That is what the
ContextClassLoaderSelector does.  It stores a map of logger repositories
and keys each logger repository by the context classloader (the
WebappClassLoader unique to each webapp).  So when Log4j asks for the
logger repository in order to log for the app, the selector will only
return the logger repository keyed for that application.

Make sure you don't confuse the LoggerRepositorySelector with the
LoggerRepository.  Only one of the former can be set at any one time (which
we guard).  There can be infinite of the latter.

Does that make more sense?

Jake

At 08:13 PM 2/25/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Hi Jacob,

Iam attempting to incorporate similar custom
repository selector approach.
You mentioned
Note that Log4j will only use *ONE* custom repository
selector.

Did u mean one custom repository selector per app?

If the answer is Yes, than my confusion is,
Since LogManager has one private member variable of
type repository selector and we initialize that to a
custom repository by following
Object guard = new Object();
LogManager.setRepositorySelector(new
CusRepository(contextName), guard);

and if log4j is loaded only one time by the parent
classloader, how does logmanager maintain reference of
every application's CusRepositry ?












--- Jacob Kjome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello James,
 
  The functionality you are looking for is to be able
  to log within
  unique logger repositories using a custom logger
  repository selector.
  I have implemented such a selector (and a servlet
  context listener
  which configures log4j to use it at app/server
  startup) which keys
  logger repositories on the current classloader.
  Ceki has written
  about a repository selector which would use JNDI to
  key logger
  repositories.
 
  Now, since you are using JBoss and they have their
  single classloader
  concept (which, admittedly, I'm not so familiar
  with) I'm not sure the
  repository selector that I wrote will work for you.
  It certainly
  works in an environment where each webapp has its
  own unique
  classloader.  This still might be true for JBoss,
  but I'm not
  positive.
 
  To check out

Re: Reposting of Log4J Question

2003-02-25 Thread Jacob Kjome
Hello James,

The functionality you are looking for is to be able to log within
unique logger repositories using a custom logger repository selector.
I have implemented such a selector (and a servlet context listener
which configures log4j to use it at app/server startup) which keys
logger repositories on the current classloader.  Ceki has written
about a repository selector which would use JNDI to key logger
repositories.

Now, since you are using JBoss and they have their single classloader
concept (which, admittedly, I'm not so familiar with) I'm not sure the
repository selector that I wrote will work for you.  It certainly
works in an environment where each webapp has its own unique
classloader.  This still might be true for JBoss, but I'm not
positive.

To check out the repository selector I wrote, look here:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-log4j-sandbox/src/java/org/apache/log4j/selector/ContextClassLoaderSelector.java?rev=1.3content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup

See the servlet context listener which initializes Log4j to use this
custom selector here:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-log4j-sandbox/src/java/org/apache/log4j/servlet/InitContextListener.java?rev=1.2content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup

Note that Log4j will only use *ONE* custom repository selector.  Once
one is installed, the only way to change it to re-install the selector
along with the original guard object which is used to protect the
selector from being changed by a process not meant to do so.  So,
unless you store the guard, you can pretty much assume that this is a
one-shot thing.  As such, ideally, the container should be responsible
for installing the selector.  My servlet context listener allows for
any particular webapp to install the selector if one isn't already
installed.  If one is, the installation will fail and the exception
hidden.  In this situation, it is assumed that whatever process did
the install knew what it was doing and the app will just have to live
with the decision.


For sure, read Ceki's article about custom selectors and pay attention
to the JNDI selector discussion:
http://qos.ch/logging/sc.html


Note, if you implement a JNDI selector that works for you, it would be
great if you could contribute that back to the Log4j-sandbox project!


Jake

Tuesday, February 25, 2003, 1:48:51 PM, you wrote:

CJ An answer to this question/problem is very important to my project group so
CJ please take time to read and understand it.  Thanks.  I struggled with
CJ posting this to a JBOSS group but decided it was more of an issue with the
CJ use of Log4J and not so much how JBOSS was using it.

 

CJ I am using JBOSS and am attempting to define application independent logging
CJ using Log4J.

CJ JBOSS uses Log4J for their logging as well, which is where my problems
CJ begin.

 

CJ If I use the PropertyConfigurator to configure log4J using an application
CJ specific config file.  Its settings conflict with the JBOSS logging.  My
CJ first attempt was defining the root and file appenders for the root logger
CJ which is probably what was throwing the Log4J logging into a loop.

 

CJ My solution was to define a category and log to that vs. getting the logger
CJ and logging to it.

 

CJ The results were encouraging but problematic as well.  My error, debug, info
CJ messages are showing up in the JBOSS console log just fine, but are appended
CJ to an [INFO] message from the JBOSS (log4j) logging.  So it appears that
CJ every message logged to my category is getting appended to a JBOSS log
CJ message (in this case INFO priority) before being logged to the console or
CJ file.

 

CJ How can I define my application specific logging so it can coexist with the
CJ logging configuration defined by the app server which uses log4J but be
CJ independent.  I do not want to have to modify the log4J configuration that
CJ is setup by the JBOSS server implementation.  I want to be able to configure
CJ my own configuration file, load it with a console and file appenders that
CJ coexist with the ones in the JBOSS specific log4J configuration but do not
CJ conflict with the root ones defined.  HOW?

 

CJ Below is a snapshot of my application log4j configuration file that I am
CJ loading.  The JBOSS log4j configuration appears to define a console and file
CJ appender for the root logger.  This configuration works with the caveat that
CJ any logging to this category gets appended to the JBOSS log text before
CJ being displayed to the console or log file.

 

CJ ## The server.log file appender for LightSpeed

CJ log4j.category.LightSpeed=, LightSpeed_Console, LightSpeed_Default

CJ log4j.appender.LightSpeed_Default=org.apache.log4j.RollingFileAppender

CJ log4j.appender.LightSpeed_Default.File=server.log

CJ log4j.appender.LightSpeed_Default.MaxFileSize=500KB

CJ log4j.appender.LightSpeed_Default.MaxBackupIndex=1

CJ log4j.appender.LightSpeed_Default.layout=org.apache.log4j.PatternLayout

CJ 

Re: Reposting of Log4J Question

2003-02-25 Thread donald larmee
The problem w/ jBoss is that they 'get there first'.. in that they use 
log4j for their own internal logging log4j.jar exists in the Containers 
CLASSPATH and the first time an internal logging statement is hit log4j 
initializes itself w/ the log4j.xml configuration file located (by default) 
in  $JBOSS_HOME/server/config, which is in the containers CLASSPATH.

If you load a custom ContextRespositorySelector within an Applications 
space, I suspect the default ClassLoader behavior will push it up the chain 
and you end up effecting the whole jBoss appserver, not just the webapp in 
question (I think... I played around w/ resolving this issue in the past, 
and seem to recall that being the problem...)

I seem to recall conversations on jBoss forums/listservs that would allow 
for a Custom CRS to be loaded by the container, so you might check the 
archives on jboss.org.

-don

At 02:44 PM 2/25/2003 -0600, Jacob Kjome wrote:

Hello James,

The functionality you are looking for is to be able to log within
unique logger repositories using a custom logger repository selector.
I have implemented such a selector (and a servlet context listener
which configures log4j to use it at app/server startup) which keys
logger repositories on the current classloader.  Ceki has written
about a repository selector which would use JNDI to key logger
repositories.
Now, since you are using JBoss and they have their single classloader
concept (which, admittedly, I'm not so familiar with) I'm not sure the
repository selector that I wrote will work for you.  It certainly
works in an environment where each webapp has its own unique
classloader.  This still might be true for JBoss, but I'm not
positive.
To check out the repository selector I wrote, look here:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-log4j-sandbox/src/java/org/apache/log4j/selector/ContextClassLoaderSelector.java?rev=1.3content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
See the servlet context listener which initializes Log4j to use this
custom selector here:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-log4j-sandbox/src/java/org/apache/log4j/servlet/InitContextListener.java?rev=1.2content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
Note that Log4j will only use *ONE* custom repository selector.  Once
one is installed, the only way to change it to re-install the selector
along with the original guard object which is used to protect the
selector from being changed by a process not meant to do so.  So,
unless you store the guard, you can pretty much assume that this is a
one-shot thing.  As such, ideally, the container should be responsible
for installing the selector.  My servlet context listener allows for
any particular webapp to install the selector if one isn't already
installed.  If one is, the installation will fail and the exception
hidden.  In this situation, it is assumed that whatever process did
the install knew what it was doing and the app will just have to live
with the decision.
For sure, read Ceki's article about custom selectors and pay attention
to the JNDI selector discussion:
http://qos.ch/logging/sc.html
Note, if you implement a JNDI selector that works for you, it would be
great if you could contribute that back to the Log4j-sandbox project!
Jake

Tuesday, February 25, 2003, 1:48:51 PM, you wrote:

CJ An answer to this question/problem is very important to my project 
group so
CJ please take time to read and understand it.  Thanks.  I struggled with
CJ posting this to a JBOSS group but decided it was more of an issue with the
CJ use of Log4J and not so much how JBOSS was using it.



CJ I am using JBOSS and am attempting to define application independent 
logging
CJ using Log4J.

CJ JBOSS uses Log4J for their logging as well, which is where my problems
CJ begin.


CJ If I use the PropertyConfigurator to configure log4J using an application
CJ specific config file.  Its settings conflict with the JBOSS logging.  My
CJ first attempt was defining the root and file appenders for the root logger
CJ which is probably what was throwing the Log4J logging into a loop.


CJ My solution was to define a category and log to that vs. getting the 
logger
CJ and logging to it.



CJ The results were encouraging but problematic as well.  My error, 
debug, info
CJ messages are showing up in the JBOSS console log just fine, but are 
appended
CJ to an [INFO] message from the JBOSS (log4j) logging.  So it appears that
CJ every message logged to my category is getting appended to a JBOSS log
CJ message (in this case INFO priority) before being logged to the console or
CJ file.



CJ How can I define my application specific logging so it can coexist 
with the
CJ logging configuration defined by the app server which uses log4J but be
CJ independent.  I do not want to have to modify the log4J configuration that
CJ is setup by the JBOSS server implementation.  I want to be able to 
configure
CJ my own configuration file, load it with a console and file appenders that
CJ coexist with the ones in the JBOSS 

RE: Reposting of Log4J Question

2003-02-25 Thread Corbin, James

Thanks Don.  I think what you describe is happening.  I will search the
forums further.

So, what was your solution?  It sounds like the custom
ContextRepositorySelector did not work for you.  I may have misinterpreted
your email.

Thanks,
J.D.

-Original Message-
From: donald larmee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:40 PM
To: Log4J Users List; Log4J Users List
Subject: Re: Reposting of Log4J Question

The problem w/ jBoss is that they 'get there first'.. in that they use 
log4j for their own internal logging log4j.jar exists in the Containers 
CLASSPATH and the first time an internal logging statement is hit log4j 
initializes itself w/ the log4j.xml configuration file located (by default) 
in  $JBOSS_HOME/server/config, which is in the containers CLASSPATH.

If you load a custom ContextRespositorySelector within an Applications 
space, I suspect the default ClassLoader behavior will push it up the chain 
and you end up effecting the whole jBoss appserver, not just the webapp in 
question (I think... I played around w/ resolving this issue in the past, 
and seem to recall that being the problem...)

I seem to recall conversations on jBoss forums/listservs that would allow 
for a Custom CRS to be loaded by the container, so you might check the 
archives on jboss.org.

-don


At 02:44 PM 2/25/2003 -0600, Jacob Kjome wrote:

Hello James,

The functionality you are looking for is to be able to log within
unique logger repositories using a custom logger repository selector.
I have implemented such a selector (and a servlet context listener
which configures log4j to use it at app/server startup) which keys
logger repositories on the current classloader.  Ceki has written
about a repository selector which would use JNDI to key logger
repositories.

Now, since you are using JBoss and they have their single classloader
concept (which, admittedly, I'm not so familiar with) I'm not sure the
repository selector that I wrote will work for you.  It certainly
works in an environment where each webapp has its own unique
classloader.  This still might be true for JBoss, but I'm not
positive.

To check out the repository selector I wrote, look here:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-log4j-sandbox/src/java/org/apache/log
4j/selector/ContextClassLoaderSelector.java?rev=1.3content-type=text/vnd.vi
ewcvs-markup

See the servlet context listener which initializes Log4j to use this
custom selector here:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-log4j-sandbox/src/java/org/apache/log
4j/servlet/InitContextListener.java?rev=1.2content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-ma
rkup

Note that Log4j will only use *ONE* custom repository selector.  Once
one is installed, the only way to change it to re-install the selector
along with the original guard object which is used to protect the
selector from being changed by a process not meant to do so.  So,
unless you store the guard, you can pretty much assume that this is a
one-shot thing.  As such, ideally, the container should be responsible
for installing the selector.  My servlet context listener allows for
any particular webapp to install the selector if one isn't already
installed.  If one is, the installation will fail and the exception
hidden.  In this situation, it is assumed that whatever process did
the install knew what it was doing and the app will just have to live
with the decision.


For sure, read Ceki's article about custom selectors and pay attention
to the JNDI selector discussion:
http://qos.ch/logging/sc.html


Note, if you implement a JNDI selector that works for you, it would be
great if you could contribute that back to the Log4j-sandbox project!


Jake

Tuesday, February 25, 2003, 1:48:51 PM, you wrote:

CJ An answer to this question/problem is very important to my project 
group so
CJ please take time to read and understand it.  Thanks.  I struggled with
CJ posting this to a JBOSS group but decided it was more of an issue with
the
CJ use of Log4J and not so much how JBOSS was using it.



CJ I am using JBOSS and am attempting to define application independent 
logging
CJ using Log4J.

CJ JBOSS uses Log4J for their logging as well, which is where my problems
CJ begin.



CJ If I use the PropertyConfigurator to configure log4J using an
application
CJ specific config file.  Its settings conflict with the JBOSS logging.
My
CJ first attempt was defining the root and file appenders for the root
logger
CJ which is probably what was throwing the Log4J logging into a loop.



CJ My solution was to define a category and log to that vs. getting the 
logger
CJ and logging to it.



CJ The results were encouraging but problematic as well.  My error, 
debug, info
CJ messages are showing up in the JBOSS console log just fine, but are 
appended
CJ to an [INFO] message from the JBOSS (log4j) logging.  So it appears
that
CJ every message logged to my category is getting appended to a JBOSS log
CJ message (in this case INFO priority) before being logged